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Christianity EtcRe: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 1:46pm On Dec 13, 2020
Barristter07:
I guess Paul is an illiterate

" For God has put everything under his feet. Now when it says "everything" is put under him, it is obvious that he who puts everything under him is the exception. " 1Cor 15:27

There is an exception to all things. Learn .
Was the Father part of creation? No!

So ALL THINGS CREATED for both the Father and the Son.

So Creation belongs to Jesus.

It says so " KNOW ALL "

Emphasis on " ALL "

Yet doesn't mean they have all the knowledge in the universe.
Emphasis on ALL THINGS

The ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that are through the Son.

Not the same , Jesus belong to the Father but the Father doesn't belong to Jesus . Clear boundaries of the all things.

Jesus is part of the all things that came from the Father.
The Jesus is part of Himself because ALL THINGS that came from the Father are THROUGH Jesus.
Christianity EtcRe: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 1:41pm On Dec 13, 2020
Barristter07:
[s]Luke 23:46 , Was Jesus in heaven the day he died?[/s]
The spirit of man is a person.

Two persons know ba ?
Until you deny this first that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."
Christianity EtcRe: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 1:35pm On Dec 13, 2020
Barristter07:
If holy spirit is a person, the Verse above contradicted Jesus and make him a liar.
It didn't contradict it rather contradicts your dull brain.

we know even the human spirit searches all the thoughts of man yet its not a person grin grin

" A person's spirit is the lamp of the LORD; it searches throughout one's innermost being. " Prov 20:27 ISV
Human spirit is a person this has been established even in the scripture.

wahala for no know bible
Wahala for the educated illiterate.

Mumu your evidence proves Jesus is a Liar provided holy spirit is a person. Deal with it.
Oponu....

You can't still deny that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."
Christianity EtcRe: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 1:14pm On Dec 13, 2020
Barristter07:
Ogbeni Beru OLORUN ( Fear God ) na. grin
Do you fear God?

So Jesus is wrong for using NOBODY then , when you speak of people you are familiar with alone , you don't say Nobody . NOBODY means no person. So in short you mean Jesus is still lying
It's no longer ONLY but now NOBODY!

keep lying for your demonic organization.

And the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."
Christianity EtcRe: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 1:10pm On Dec 13, 2020
Barristter07:
You are hooked .
And you're hanged

My translation is not wrong, the translation just admitted that All things does not mean total. So th word knowledge was used.
Only an educated illiterate will say "ALL THINGS does not mean TOTAL"

So both KJV and your translation are correct!

Hypocrite!

In the Greek text, Does 1John 2:20 not say KNOW ALL?

Come and tell me if those Disciples know everything . Then let's see if your same all things yarn go sell
It didn't say so....

The fact is, the same ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that come through Jesus.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 1:06pm On Dec 13, 2020
Barristter07:
"OF " means belong to another.
Jesus is the VERY IMAGE.

Wrong , If it comes same time both would have been PARENTS.
ONE THING comes from man and woman at the same time.

ALL THINGS are through both the Father and the Son.

Jesus is OUR brother , A Son like everyone else.
Already answered.

"FIRSTBORN among many brothers " Romans 8:29
And I can't see FIRSTCREATED in that verse.

Image ( singular) bravo!! Good point , because the same Image still Belong to ONE PERSON , the Father , whose image Jesus exist. So Adam existed in the Image of God (The Father ) . That's why he is called Son of God not Son of Jesus.
If Jesus has a separate Image it would have been, make man in OUR IMAGES.

No man was created in Jesus image grin
Keep exposing your ignorance.

The text is "Let US create man in OUR image" which means the IMAGE belongs to the US & OUR.

Oponu radarada....

Still waiting for your lying mouth to provide where it is stated that Jesus was MADE I the image of God.

Romans 9:8

" BECAUSE Those whom he ( the Father ) gave his first recognition he also foredained TO be PATTERNED after the image of his Son, so that he might be FIRSTBORN among many brothers "

Notice that ONLY some few were chosen TO BE ( future) patterned after the image of His son, NOT ALL MANKIND. Which means Mankind didn't exist in Jesus image , [s]but even the image of Jesus still belong to the Father.[/s] In fact this can only happen because of the Father once again.
But your lying mouth first claimed that Jesus doesn't have image of his own but ONLY EXIST in God's Image.

Now the text says "...after the IMAGE of His Son"

Jesus is the VERY IMAGE

Jesus is a property of God like every other person created.
Jesus is your creator because He created ALL THINGS.


They are not the same person. [s]So let's know what came through the Father![/s]
Then who says they are the same person?

ALL THINGS came through the Father, true or false?

Neither does same nature means Same all things, if true, it means All things come through everyone with God's nature including the humans promised the nature.
Jesus and His Father are of the same nature.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 9:40am On Dec 13, 2020
Barristter07:
Of the invisible God [the Father ] , belong to his Creator.
THE VERY IMAGE...

The man and woman automatically own the child, But Jesus doesn't own anyone , neither is anyone is son or his image, yet you still using this analogy that exposed you ?
The fact is Man and Woman produce ONE THING. Which means ALL THING can come from the Father and Through the Son at the same time.

Oponu....no one was Jesus image yet Genesis says "Let Us create man in OUR(plural) IMAGE(singular)"

Which means Man was created in the IMAGE of Jesus too.

Not from whom all things came . Good

The All things doesn't apply to what came through the Father. They are different persons , what is the all things that came through the Father ? (All the while you are using a same person fallacy, cos same nature has been debunked since humans have that promise to share that very same nature yet doesn't make all things came through them, you are automatically bestowing what came through them as the same on the basis of nature. But your foolery was caught )
The ALL THINGS that came through the Father is the same ALL THINGS that are THROUGH the Son.

The Father and the Son are of the same being....
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 9:33am On Dec 13, 2020
Barristter07:
@Bold , Wahala for who no know bible grin

Colosians 1:15 " The Image OF the invisible God [the Father ] , the firstborn of all creation"

[s]" OF " means belonging to . Whose image you belong indicates your maker , Just as Man in God's image make them SONS of the Most High. Just as Seth in Adams image make Adam his Father , Jesus is God's created property. He belongs to him.[/s]
Jesus is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

Let US create man in OUR (PLURAL) IMAGE(singular)

You're still lying as you can't provide the scripture where it was stated that Jesus EXIST/WAS MADE in the image of God.

Until then all your Mumbo jumbo will be strike.
Christianity EtcRe: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 9:22am On Dec 13, 2020
Barristter07:
1John 2:20 said Know ALL . Translators realize this Couldn't mean they know everything. That's my point, all things doesn't mean total. all things in the context of the Father and son are different, One person came through and Belong to the other, the other doesn't.
Hypocrite!

So your translation is wrong for saying "...and ALL of you have knowledge"

The ALL THINGS that are from the came is the same ALL THINGS that are THROUGH the Son.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 3:14pm On Dec 11, 2020
Barristter07:
Image means he is produced.
See the idiot jumping from pillar to post.

It's no longer Seth.

But you're using Seth analogy, so it doesn't favor you and you have to switch gear again. Ode....

Then the Father is also produced.

Let create man in OUR IMAGE.

Adam was in God's image, doesn't mean intercourse but creation.

The point is existing in another's image shows that person is your creator.
Clown!

Not Seth again now jumping to Adam.

Jesus didn't exist in anybody image Rather HE IS THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

Pulling out more lies to cover up lies.

I'm still waiting for where it is stated that Jesus was MADE in the image of God.

The are not same being , Not same person

They are different being, and for Jesus he is a REPRESENTATION of the Fathers being. A representation

So it's clear they are not the same, We need to know what came through the Father tht didn't come through Jesus.
Coin another word to continue to pull more watchtower lies.

They are the same BEING.

You look up the sky you say you see sun.

Meanwhile, you can't see the gases burning what you see is just the flame of the burning gases which you still call sun.

You even refer to the Heat which you feel from the burning gases as Sun.

The Father = Gases (you can't see with your naked eyes.
The Son = Burning Flame

The Holy Spirit = The Heat

Yet all these three coexist at one but you still refer to each separate as SUN.

ALL THINGS come through the Father and ALL THINGS come through the Son says the Holy scripture.

ALL THINGS (the power of the gases) come from the Father and the same ALL THINGS (power of the gases in flame) come through the Son.

It was a lying liar mouth like you who try to inject two different meanings into that.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 3:05pm On Dec 11, 2020
Barristter07:
Jesus is a creature, existing in his Creators image. He is not the source of creation. But the beginning of it.
Jesus is the very IMAGE of God

Lying liar I'm still waiting for you to provide where it is written that Jesus was MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.

N9 how you people won't lie just to keep living in your delusions.

Jesus is the source of creation and the Creator.

All things doesn't come through them at the same time, You this dubious man, Because when the Father made his son Jesus, Jesus doesn't exist . He did through his own agency.
But ALL THINGS that come from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that come through the son.

Yet Jesus is from everlasting which is a place of eternity. Ode...

They would have been twins , not Father and son. U lie too much
See oponu radarada!

Does a man and a woman become twins before they can come together to produce ONE THING?

Thank God it didn't say from whom all things came. We know the Father is the source of all things.
BUT it says THROUGH WHOM ALL THINGS came.

So the ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that came THROUGH the Son.
Christianity EtcRe: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 2:57pm On Dec 11, 2020
Barristter07:
Owner need Nobody to Grant him authority. Jesus have no sons either right from before he came to earth.
Yet again, Phil 2:7 is there to cure your delusion.

Before Jesus came to earth, He's within the being of God.

When I said All things have context, your deluded head can't phantom it. Anyway here is 1John 2:20 to assist you

"But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things." King James 2000

Does this mean this Christian's know everything including the day and hour ?
See this oponu radarada...

Why King James 2000 and not your demonic translation?

Hypocrite!

He knows his lie will be exposed

And you have an anointing from the holy one, and all of you have knowledge. 1 John 2:20

Don't be ashamed to use your lying translation.

[qupte]All things in the context of Father and Son is totally different ... Son Belong to the all things for the Father . Make peace with it.[/quote]Still lying!

In that context, ALL THINGS from the Father is the same ALL THINGS through the son.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 12:05pm On Dec 11, 2020
Barristter07:
" When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth." Genesis 5:3

Jesus exiting in the image of God is the reason he is a Son. It means God the Father produce him just as Adam produce Seth.
So Jesus was produced through intercourse because the last time I checked, Seth was a product of intercourse, so how can they be produced in the same way?

You're still lying but continue.

Jesus didn't exist in the IMAGE OF GOD but the VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

Matthew 11:27 All things have been HANDED OVER to me BY MY FATHER .

Owner doesn't need anyones authority .
Phil 2:7 is there to cure your delusion on that.


Human being means a man.

Human BeingS mean people .
Human being means ALL THE PEOPLE LIVING ON EARTH.

Tht means all things came through human partakers of God's nature too ? grin
Show us where it was stated.

Jesus and His Father are the same Being that's why ALL THINGS can be said to be THROUGH THEM.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 12:00pm On Dec 11, 2020
Barristter07:
An agent. Good ... Not source
Then the Father is also and agent since ALL THINGS are through Him too.

Jesus is the source of creation.

If they are different persons, what came through the person of the Father ?
ALL THINGS and the same ALL THINGS are through the son.

" And because of his glory and excellence, he has given us great and precious promises. These are the promises that enable you to share his [God's] divine nature " 2Pet 1:4

Now tell me , does this mean this one's are source of all things too ?

Does it mean the persons here are not part of the all things that belong to the Father in terms of been his creation ?

So Jesus having same nature doesn't change the Fact he is a property of the Father , Created in his image . His Firstborn son.
The Father and the Son have the same nature which makes ALL THINGS come THROUGH them at the same time.

Same nature doesn't mean same source.
They are both SOURCE of creation.

1 Corinthians 8:6 said it all . One God, the Father , from whom all things came.
And One Lord through whom are ALL THINGS

To twist this is what you've been looking for and you won't get it.
Christianity EtcRe: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 11:52am On Dec 11, 2020
Barristter07:
Father doesn't belong to Jesus , All things is not totally all things.

But Jesus belong to the Father.
Imagine, see the idiotic grammarian saying ALL THINGS in NOT TOTALLY ALL THINGS.

This is the nonsense you've been teaching your children.

And EVERYONE Belongs to Jesus.

Was Jesus given authority should be the question. Owner needs Nobody to give him authority. Exposed. Mind you some authority are SOLELY in the hands of the Father Act 1:7
I can't just stop laughing at your delusions.

"Some AUTHORITY are SOLELY in the hands of the Father" Says the deluded JWs who also provided the verse where it was boldly written that "ALL AUTHORITY" has been given to Jesus.

Phil 2:7 is there to show you how the owner was later given Authority.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 11:45am On Dec 11, 2020
Barristter07:
Eeyah not image of himself but Image of God the Father . The person in whose image you exist is your producer. No wonder he is called First person Born of creation.
Do you even understand the usage of the word IMAGE in that verse?

I guess you don't, if not you won't be foaming in your mouth.

Jesus is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

He was not CREATED/MADE in the IMAGE of God as you earlier lied.

And was called the source of creation.

Sons of God simply refer to Sons of the Most High . So keep that lie of Jesus is within that God. You idiot think u can just twist the word God
See the chronic twister of the word of God talking nonsense here.

Didn't ALL THINGS create for Jesus?

How can the person who ALL THINGS created for not have ANYTHING?

Nothing belong to Jesus until he was given. That's not ownership
CSB: Everything the Father has is mine. This is why I told you that he takes from what is mine and will declare it to you. John 16:15

Let the scripture silent the lying liar mouth.

The dictionary u provided is the same one I gave you ... Human being is one man

Human BeingS is people.

Brain

Even Nature doesn't work, Many will share that same Divine Nature yet it doesn't mean they have the same authority as the Father or know what he knows, they remain totally Disctinct and separate . Make peace with the Fact that All things as it apply to Jesus and the Father are totally different contexts.
Try again liar,

Go back to my previous post and see the dictionary I provided where is was boldly written that Human Being means people of different cultures.

People will share the nature of Christ who is a glorified human not Divine Nature of God.

To have God's nature is to be God.

It's like saying animals have Human nature and still be animals.

So both the Father and the Son are of the same being.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 11:32am On Dec 11, 2020
Barristter07:
The Bible is clear, the Father from whom all things came.
And the Son through whom are ALL THINGS

Same being means same person, If they are different persons . Your postulation is dead on arrival .

Same being same nature means Those humans with the promise of sharing the same nature are also source of all things.

Where is your thinking cap bro ? grin
You haven't show me where I said they are the same Person.

Same being means same nature!

No one can share God's nature.

To have God nature is to be God Himself.

Either this TRANSLATIONS are correct or 1Cor 8:6 is a lie or vice versa.
You're the one wrong here!

because the Greek word for source were used in those verses.


So you can craw back to your father the first liar.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 10:36am On Dec 11, 2020
Barristter07:
Image of the invisible God. (The Father )

Why exist in another's image ?

If he wasn't made, he won't have been Firstborn of creation.
Show us where it was written that Jesus was MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD. Clown!

We can as well say, the Father has NO IMAGE since another person is His Image. Olodo oshi.

Jesus is The VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

Under no circumstances would an owner be given authority.

Nobody is called his son right from when the world began. Doesn't that ring a bell?
We have the Son of God and Jesus is within that GOD.

So what belongs to the Father belongs to Jesus. Says the scripture.

Human being means " A man "

Oxford dictionary

A man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.

‘It is no use pointing out the obvious differences between human beings and all other animals.’

Notice that in the example, it says Human BEINGS when reffering to all the people . That brain you don't have, u gonna get by force.
Human Being includes PEOPLE living on earth.

I've provided the dictionary for that.

So the Father and the son are of the same Being.

Same being means one same person
It means NATURE here.

Ode...
Christianity EtcRe: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 10:30am On Dec 11, 2020
Barristter07:
Exactly why I tell you All things as it applies to Jesus and His Father are in different contexts
And you're still lying because ALL THINGS is ALL THINGS no two meanings to it.

Jesus doesn't even have the power to know, The time or day is Strictly in the Father owns authority , Not Father and Son.
Didn't Jesus have ALL AUTHORITY?

Ode...
Christianity EtcRe: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 10:28am On Dec 11, 2020
Barristter07:
And Yet Jesus Boldly use the word ONLY the Father knows, which means he was lying , another person apart from the Father knows.

grin grin grin grin
Here it is again

The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God.

This is a proof that Holy Spirit knows the day of judgment whether He was mentioned by Jesus or not, whether Holy Spirit is a person or Not.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 10:25am On Dec 11, 2020
Barristter07:
If your postulation is correct at 1-4 , it means 1Corinthians 8:6 lied that the Father is the source of all things.
My postulation or what the Bible says?

The Father and the Son are of the same BEING, it's so easy to see scripture saying they are the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS.

But difficult for Devil advocate like you to understand.

Jesus is not the source of life, he was granted life.
The scripture says you're a liar

Jesus is the source of life

Jesus is not the source of creation, nobody is his son
Revelation 3:14 says you're a liar, Jesus is the source of Creation.

Jesus is not the source of salvation , He was sent
Heb 2:10 says you're a liar, Jesus is the source of Salvation.

Jesus is not the source of Faith , he was sent
Heb 12:2 says you're a liar, Jesus is the source of FAITH.

You can keep deny it but scripture will continue to proof you wrong.

Source is a wrong word in all this cases.
Tell that to Jehovah who inspired His word in that way.
Christianity EtcRe: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 10:18am On Dec 11, 2020
Barristter07:
Jesus didn't even have the power to know . " oNLy the Father " means He alone has that authority to know.


And He said to them, "It is not yours to know times or seasons that the Father put in place by His own authority. " Act 1:7
But your deluded brain was referring to John 17 that ALL AUTHORITY was given to Jesus.

You will see the clown giving ALL AUTHORITY different meanings now.

Just like I said, the scripture keeps putting your lying mouth in shame.


Once again, Jesus decided not to use His all-knowing attribute at that time.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 10:13am On Dec 11, 2020
Barristter07:
Faulty dead reasoning, If he came through himself, he won't have Exist in the IMAGE of someone else ... He came through the Father in whose image he was made.
Jesus is the very IMAGE of God.

Where was it said Jesus was MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.

Like I said, even your father the Devil will be so shocked on many lies you've made on this thread.

The ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS through Christ so if Jesus is part of that ALL THINGS as you lied earlier it means Jesus came through Himself.

Your level of cognitive dissonance is so high

Nothing belong to Jesus ... Until he was given. Owner needs nobody to give him anything .

Jesus explains " Father ...you have GIVEN him (Jesus) authority over all mankind " John 17:2

Why does an Owner still need to be given authority over what he owns ? Are you okay?
You're still living in this your delusion.

Weren't ALL THINGS created for Jesus?

How can ALL THINGS create for Him and still does not own ANYTHING.

Go back to that Phil 2:7 and see the reason Jesus was given Authority.

No human being means " A man "

A single person.

Human BEINGS mean all the people .
Human Being means ALL THE PEOPLE on earth.

The same Jesus that exist in the image of someone else?

Cognitive dissonance
Jesus is the VERY IMAGE of God

Lying liar JWs.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 10:04am On Dec 11, 2020
Barristter07:
Take cognizance of why I quoted the verse.
God is not in the manuscript, Agreed, but was Hebrew 2:10 a reference to the Father ? Yeye
Breeze has blown and fowl yansh has been exposed.

That verse is for Jesus.

Secondly, pioneer is not source, For the records it was The Father that Send his son Jesus as savior
Even your father the Devil will be so shocked at the lies you're peddling on this thread.

The only thing is that you have no shame to see your lies.

The Greek translated as Pioneer "archēgos"

The Greek word - ἀρχηγὸς archēgos - is a more general term, and denotes, properly, the author or source of anything; then a leader, chief prince. In Acts 3:15, it is rendered "prince" - "and killed the prince of life." So in Acts 5:31. "Him hath God exalted to be a prince and a Saviour." In Hebrews 12:2, it is rendered "author." "Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith;" compare the notes at that place. Barnes Note!

" Furthermore, we have seen with our own eyes and now testify that the Father sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. " 1John 4:14

Source is the one who sends
But Jesus is called SOURCE in that verse and not the Father.

Keep lying.

God raised Some human savior's for isreal, they are not the source of the salvation , but he who send them.
But no where were they called SOURCE OF SALVATION.

You can provide the verse where anyone was called SOURCE OF SALVATION.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 9:54am On Dec 11, 2020
Janosky:
1
John 5:26. Matthew 28:18 from Jesus mouth, he received it ,Mr Lienus .

2.
John 20:17 the God of Jesus is Not your God, 3 pagan spirits worshipper.

3
John 3:16-17,36 He was sent to give salvation. 1 John 4:14-15,His God is the Source.
Believe it or condemn yourself.
You have made your choice by your wacky claims on this thread.

4. John 15:15. Hebrew 5:7-8, Jesus says he was taught, he learnt and obeyed.
He never argued against his Father teaching unlike Mr Lienus cheesy grin
The day sense will fall on you, there will be a great joy in the camp of your father the Devil.

But for now, your father the Devil is still very much disappointed in you because of your lack of sense.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 10:02pm On Dec 10, 2020
Barristter07:
" It was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation (Jesus ) perfect through suffering as part of his plan to glorify many children, " Heb 2:10

The one through whom everything exist made Jesus perfect, don't you read ? Mumu
Firstly, the word God was not in the original manuscript. This is the literal translation by YLT YLT: For it was becoming to Him, because of whom [are] the all things, and through whom [are] the all things, many sons to glory bringing, the author of their salvation through sufferings to make perfect, now you will quickly accept this to support your lying doctrine but reject other versions that did the same in a place like 1 Timothy 3:16 and call them fraud.

Hypocrite!!!

Lastly, the same Jesus you've been lying against of not being SOURCE OF ANYTHING, is the same one the verse you quoted says He is the PIONEER/SOURCE of Salvation. Thank God you even bracket the world "Jesus" yourself.

See how you're exposing your shameless lying mouth yourself.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 9:36pm On Dec 10, 2020
Barristter07:
The same scripture affirm at All things came from the Father and through the Father and for the Father.
And the same scripture affirms that the same "ALL THINGS are through the Son and for the Son"

so it's THE SAME "ALL THINGS" if Jesus is included in that ALL things then it means Jesus came through HIMSELF.

Jesus belong to the Father , came through the Father ... He exist in his image as his created firstborn son.
See how your shameless face is being exposed.

So do you now agree that WE BELONG to Jesus?

When you can boldly say, Jesus owns NOTHING!

because I didn't see you foaming mouth on that like before.

Shameless lying liar like your father the devil.

Beings or being?
Have you learnt that Human Being means ALL THE PEOPLE LIVING ON THIS EARTH?

Jesus and the Father are the same Being.

Mumu boy grin Jesus came through the Father

And the All things tht belong to the Father included Jesus.
Oponu man, and the ALL THINGS are through Jesus which means Jesus came through Himself.
Christianity EtcRe: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 9:26pm On Dec 10, 2020
Barristter07:
He didn't know. , now I know is factual. He choose not to know. And he didn't until that moment.

Back to the Matter , How could ONLY the Father knows be true when The Son knows already ?
Lemme bolden that part well before your lying liar mouth change tune.

If not because you're very idiotic and silly, you'd have known the position of people on that statement is the same as that of @color but ignorance and deception of watchtower won't allow you to see the truth.

They say JESUS CHOOSES NOT TO KNOW like Jehovah did.

But the hypocrisy on you people is to claim Jehovah have right to selectively use His all-knowing attribute and still be God yet when people say Jesus has power to know the day of judgment BUT CHOOSES NOT TO KNOW at that time you begin to foam in the mouth that it's a lie Jesus can't be God since He didn't know the day.

Even when other verses in the scripture depict Jesus as ALL-KNOWING.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m):
Barristter07:
The Father is the source of all things .... Scripture is clear enough.

Source of life begging with serious tears to be saved from death. Like I said , your brain is freezed by Trinity
One thing you've not been able to do is to counter these scriptures.

The same scripture says:

1. Jesus is the source of life/The life/That eternal life.
2. Jesus is the source of creation.
3. Jesus is the source of Salvation
4. Jesus is the source of Faith.

All these put your lying mouth in shame for saying Jesus isn't a source of ANYTHING.
Christianity EtcRe: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 9:14pm On Dec 10, 2020
Barristter07:
I don't believe holy spirit is a person. You that believe it's a person , does that not mean there are two persons that Knows rather than ONLy one that Jesus mentioned ?
Of course do I expect you to believe, is it today you've been denying the scripture?

The scripture says: The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God

This is a proof that Holy Spirit knows the day of judgment whether He was mentioned by Jesus or not, whether Holy Spirit is a person or Not.
Christianity EtcRe: Stephen Prayed To Jesus Christ, Who Else Do We Pray To But God! by Emusan(m): 11:50am On Dec 10, 2020
Barristter07:
Source of life was crying to someone else to save him from death? Your brain is freezed .

Jesus didn't come from himself, if he does, he won't have been a son.
So scripture is lying that Jesus is the source of life, The LIFE and that ETERNAL LIFE.

Continue....

Being a son is to save the word.
Christianity EtcRe: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 11:48am On Dec 10, 2020
Barristter07:
Jesus said ONLY the Father knows, you idiots said The son also knows , which means when he said NOT even the son knows, he was lying. Use your sense
You idiot say Jehovah has right to use His all-knowing attribute then when Jehovah said "Now I know" means Jehovah was lying because He knows already.

Don't bother to use your sense.

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