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Barristter07:Was the Father part of creation? No! So ALL THINGS CREATED for both the Father and the Son. So Creation belongs to Jesus. It says so " KNOW ALL "Emphasis on ALL THINGS The ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that are through the Son. Not the same , Jesus belong to the Father but the Father doesn't belong to Jesus . Clear boundaries of the all things.The Jesus is part of Himself because ALL THINGS that came from the Father are THROUGH Jesus. |
Barristter07:The spirit of man is a person. Two persons know ba ?Until you deny this first that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God." |
Barristter07:It didn't contradict it rather contradicts your dull brain. we know even the human spirit searches all the thoughts of man yet its not a personHuman spirit is a person this has been established even in the scripture. wahala for no know bibleWahala for the educated illiterate. Mumu your evidence proves Jesus is a Liar provided holy spirit is a person. Deal with it.Oponu.... You can't still deny that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God." |
Barristter07:Do you fear God? So Jesus is wrong for using NOBODY then , when you speak of people you are familiar with alone , you don't say Nobody . NOBODY means no person. So in short you mean Jesus is still lyingIt's no longer ONLY but now NOBODY! keep lying for your demonic organization. And the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God." |
Barristter07:And you're hanged My translation is not wrong, the translation just admitted that All things does not mean total. So th word knowledge was used.Only an educated illiterate will say "ALL THINGS does not mean TOTAL" So both KJV and your translation are correct! Hypocrite! In the Greek text, Does 1John 2:20 not say KNOW ALL?It didn't say so.... The fact is, the same ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that come through Jesus. |
Barristter07:Jesus is the VERY IMAGE. Wrong , If it comes same time both would have been PARENTS.ONE THING comes from man and woman at the same time. ALL THINGS are through both the Father and the Son. Jesus is OUR brother , A Son like everyone else.Already answered. "FIRSTBORN among many brothers " Romans 8:29And I can't see FIRSTCREATED in that verse. Image ( singular) bravo!! Good point , because the same Image still Belong to ONE PERSON ,Keep exposing your ignorance. The text is "Let US create man in OUR image" which means the IMAGE belongs to the US & OUR. Oponu radarada.... Still waiting for your lying mouth to provide where it is stated that Jesus was MADE I the image of God. Romans 9:8But your lying mouth first claimed that Jesus doesn't have image of his own but ONLY EXIST in God's Image. Now the text says "...after the IMAGE of His Son" Jesus is the VERY IMAGE Jesus is a property of God like every other person created.Jesus is your creator because He created ALL THINGS. They are not the same person. [s]So let's know what came through the Father![/s]Then who says they are the same person? ALL THINGS came through the Father, true or false? Neither does same nature means Same all things, if true, it means All things come through everyone with God's nature including the humans promised the nature.Jesus and His Father are of the same nature. |
Barristter07:THE VERY IMAGE... The man and woman automatically own the child, But Jesus doesn't own anyone , neither is anyone is son or his image, yet you still using this analogy that exposed you ?The fact is Man and Woman produce ONE THING. Which means ALL THING can come from the Father and Through the Son at the same time. Oponu....no one was Jesus image yet Genesis says "Let Us create man in OUR(plural) IMAGE(singular)" Which means Man was created in the IMAGE of Jesus too. Not from whom all things came . GoodThe ALL THINGS that came through the Father is the same ALL THINGS that are THROUGH the Son. The Father and the Son are of the same being.... |
Barristter07:Jesus is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD. Let US create man in OUR (PLURAL) IMAGE(singular) You're still lying as you can't provide the scripture where it was stated that Jesus EXIST/WAS MADE in the image of God. Until then all your Mumbo jumbo will be strike. |
Barristter07:Hypocrite! So your translation is wrong for saying "...and ALL of you have knowledge" The ALL THINGS that are from the came is the same ALL THINGS that are THROUGH the Son. |
Barristter07:See the idiot jumping from pillar to post. It's no longer Seth. But you're using Seth analogy, so it doesn't favor you and you have to switch gear again. Ode.... Then the Father is also produced. Let create man in OUR IMAGE. Adam was in God's image, doesn't mean intercourse but creation.Clown! Not Seth again now jumping to Adam. Jesus didn't exist in anybody image Rather HE IS THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD. Pulling out more lies to cover up lies. I'm still waiting for where it is stated that Jesus was MADE in the image of God. The are not same being , Not same personCoin another word to continue to pull more watchtower lies. They are the same BEING. You look up the sky you say you see sun. Meanwhile, you can't see the gases burning what you see is just the flame of the burning gases which you still call sun. You even refer to the Heat which you feel from the burning gases as Sun. The Father = Gases (you can't see with your naked eyes. The Son = Burning Flame The Holy Spirit = The Heat Yet all these three coexist at one but you still refer to each separate as SUN. ALL THINGS come through the Father and ALL THINGS come through the Son says the Holy scripture. ALL THINGS (the power of the gases) come from the Father and the same ALL THINGS (power of the gases in flame) come through the Son. It was a lying liar mouth like you who try to inject two different meanings into that. |
Barristter07:Jesus is the very IMAGE of God Lying liar I'm still waiting for you to provide where it is written that Jesus was MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD. N9 how you people won't lie just to keep living in your delusions. Jesus is the source of creation and the Creator. All things doesn't come through them at the same time, You this dubious man, Because when the Father made his son Jesus, Jesus doesn't exist . He did through his own agency.But ALL THINGS that come from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that come through the son. Yet Jesus is from everlasting which is a place of eternity. Ode... They would have been twins , not Father and son. U lie too muchSee oponu radarada! Does a man and a woman become twins before they can come together to produce ONE THING? Thank God it didn't say from whom all things came. We know the Father is the source of all things.BUT it says THROUGH WHOM ALL THINGS came. So the ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that came THROUGH the Son. |
Barristter07:Yet again, Phil 2:7 is there to cure your delusion. Before Jesus came to earth, He's within the being of God. When I said All things have context, your deluded head can't phantom it. Anyway here is 1John 2:20 to assist youSee this oponu radarada... Why King James 2000 and not your demonic translation? Hypocrite! He knows his lie will be exposed And you have an anointing from the holy one, and all of you have knowledge. 1 John 2:20 Don't be ashamed to use your lying translation. [qupte]All things in the context of Father and Son is totally different ... Son Belong to the all things for the Father . Make peace with it.[/quote]Still lying! In that context, ALL THINGS from the Father is the same ALL THINGS through the son. |
Barristter07:So Jesus was produced through intercourse because the last time I checked, Seth was a product of intercourse, so how can they be produced in the same way? You're still lying but continue. Jesus didn't exist in the IMAGE OF GOD but the VERY IMAGE OF GOD. Matthew 11:27 All things have been HANDED OVER to me BY MY FATHER .Phil 2:7 is there to cure your delusion on that. Human being means a man.Human being means ALL THE PEOPLE LIVING ON EARTH. Tht means all things came through human partakers of God's nature too ?Show us where it was stated. Jesus and His Father are the same Being that's why ALL THINGS can be said to be THROUGH THEM. |
Barristter07:Then the Father is also and agent since ALL THINGS are through Him too. Jesus is the source of creation. If they are different persons, what came through the person of the Father ?ALL THINGS and the same ALL THINGS are through the son. " And because of his glory and excellence, he has given us great and precious promises. These are the promises that enable you to share his [God's] divine nature " 2Pet 1:4The Father and the Son have the same nature which makes ALL THINGS come THROUGH them at the same time. Same nature doesn't mean same source.They are both SOURCE of creation. 1 Corinthians 8:6 said it all . One God, the Father , from whom all things came.And One Lord through whom are ALL THINGS To twist this is what you've been looking for and you won't get it. |
Barristter07:Imagine, see the idiotic grammarian saying ALL THINGS in NOT TOTALLY ALL THINGS. This is the nonsense you've been teaching your children. And EVERYONE Belongs to Jesus. Was Jesus given authority should be the question. Owner needs Nobody to give him authority. Exposed. Mind you some authority are SOLELY in the hands of the Father Act 1:7I can't just stop laughing at your delusions. "Some AUTHORITY are SOLELY in the hands of the Father" Says the deluded JWs who also provided the verse where it was boldly written that "ALL AUTHORITY" has been given to Jesus. Phil 2:7 is there to show you how the owner was later given Authority. |
Barristter07:Do you even understand the usage of the word IMAGE in that verse? I guess you don't, if not you won't be foaming in your mouth. Jesus is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD. He was not CREATED/MADE in the IMAGE of God as you earlier lied. And was called the source of creation. Sons of God simply refer to Sons of the Most High . So keep that lie of Jesus is within that God. You idiot think u can just twist the word GodSee the chronic twister of the word of God talking nonsense here. Didn't ALL THINGS create for Jesus? How can the person who ALL THINGS created for not have ANYTHING? Nothing belong to Jesus until he was given. That's not ownershipCSB: Everything the Father has is mine. This is why I told you that he takes from what is mine and will declare it to you. John 16:15 Let the scripture silent the lying liar mouth. The dictionary u provided is the same one I gave you ... Human being is one manTry again liar, Go back to my previous post and see the dictionary I provided where is was boldly written that Human Being means people of different cultures. People will share the nature of Christ who is a glorified human not Divine Nature of God. To have God's nature is to be God. It's like saying animals have Human nature and still be animals. So both the Father and the Son are of the same being. |
Barristter07:And the Son through whom are ALL THINGS Same being means same person, If they are different persons . Your postulation is dead on arrival .You haven't show me where I said they are the same Person. Same being means same nature! No one can share God's nature. To have God nature is to be God Himself. Either this TRANSLATIONS are correct or 1Cor 8:6 is a lie or vice versa.You're the one wrong here! because the Greek word for source were used in those verses. So you can craw back to your father the first liar. |
Barristter07:Show us where it was written that Jesus was MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD. Clown! We can as well say, the Father has NO IMAGE since another person is His Image. Olodo oshi. Jesus is The VERY IMAGE OF GOD. Under no circumstances would an owner be given authority.We have the Son of God and Jesus is within that GOD. So what belongs to the Father belongs to Jesus. Says the scripture. Human being means " A man "Human Being includes PEOPLE living on earth. I've provided the dictionary for that. So the Father and the son are of the same Being. Same being means one same personIt means NATURE here. Ode... |
Barristter07:And you're still lying because ALL THINGS is ALL THINGS no two meanings to it. Jesus doesn't even have the power to know, The time or day is Strictly in the Father owns authority , Not Father and Son.Didn't Jesus have ALL AUTHORITY? Ode... |
Barristter07:Here it is again The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God. This is a proof that Holy Spirit knows the day of judgment whether He was mentioned by Jesus or not, whether Holy Spirit is a person or Not. |
Barristter07:My postulation or what the Bible says? The Father and the Son are of the same BEING, it's so easy to see scripture saying they are the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS. But difficult for Devil advocate like you to understand. Jesus is not the source of life, he was granted life.The scripture says you're a liar Jesus is the source of life Jesus is not the source of creation, nobody is his sonRevelation 3:14 says you're a liar, Jesus is the source of Creation. Jesus is not the source of salvation , He was sentHeb 2:10 says you're a liar, Jesus is the source of Salvation. Jesus is not the source of Faith , he was sentHeb 12:2 says you're a liar, Jesus is the source of FAITH. You can keep deny it but scripture will continue to proof you wrong. Source is a wrong word in all this cases.Tell that to Jehovah who inspired His word in that way. |
Barristter07:But your deluded brain was referring to John 17 that ALL AUTHORITY was given to Jesus. You will see the clown giving ALL AUTHORITY different meanings now. Just like I said, the scripture keeps putting your lying mouth in shame. Once again, Jesus decided not to use His all-knowing attribute at that time. |
Barristter07:Jesus is the very IMAGE of God. Where was it said Jesus was MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD. Like I said, even your father the Devil will be so shocked on many lies you've made on this thread. The ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS through Christ so if Jesus is part of that ALL THINGS as you lied earlier it means Jesus came through Himself. Your level of cognitive dissonance is so highYou're still living in this your delusion. Weren't ALL THINGS created for Jesus? How can ALL THINGS create for Him and still does not own ANYTHING. Go back to that Phil 2:7 and see the reason Jesus was given Authority. No human being means " A man "Human Being means ALL THE PEOPLE on earth. The same Jesus that exist in the image of someone else?Jesus is the VERY IMAGE of God Lying liar JWs. |
Barristter07:Breeze has blown and fowl yansh has been exposed. That verse is for Jesus. Secondly, pioneer is not source, For the records it was The Father that Send his son Jesus as saviorEven your father the Devil will be so shocked at the lies you're peddling on this thread. The only thing is that you have no shame to see your lies. The Greek translated as Pioneer "archēgos" The Greek word - ἀρχηγὸς archēgos - is a more general term, and denotes, properly, the author or source of anything; then a leader, chief prince. In Acts 3:15, it is rendered "prince" - "and killed the prince of life." So in Acts 5:31. "Him hath God exalted to be a prince and a Saviour." In Hebrews 12:2, it is rendered "author." "Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith;" compare the notes at that place. Barnes Note! " Furthermore, we have seen with our own eyes and now testify that the Father sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. " 1John 4:14But Jesus is called SOURCE in that verse and not the Father. Keep lying. God raised Some human savior's for isreal, they are not the source of the salvation , but he who send them.But no where were they called SOURCE OF SALVATION. You can provide the verse where anyone was called SOURCE OF SALVATION. |
Janosky:The day sense will fall on you, there will be a great joy in the camp of your father the Devil. But for now, your father the Devil is still very much disappointed in you because of your lack of sense. |
Barristter07:Firstly, the word God was not in the original manuscript. This is the literal translation by YLT YLT: For it was becoming to Him, because of whom [are] the all things, and through whom [are] the all things, many sons to glory bringing, the author of their salvation through sufferings to make perfect, now you will quickly accept this to support your lying doctrine but reject other versions that did the same in a place like 1 Timothy 3:16 and call them fraud. Hypocrite!!! Lastly, the same Jesus you've been lying against of not being SOURCE OF ANYTHING, is the same one the verse you quoted says He is the PIONEER/SOURCE of Salvation. Thank God you even bracket the world "Jesus" yourself. See how you're exposing your shameless lying mouth yourself. |
Barristter07:And the same scripture affirms that the same "ALL THINGS are through the Son and for the Son" so it's THE SAME "ALL THINGS" if Jesus is included in that ALL things then it means Jesus came through HIMSELF. Jesus belong to the Father , came through the Father ... He exist in his image as his created firstborn son.See how your shameless face is being exposed. So do you now agree that WE BELONG to Jesus? When you can boldly say, Jesus owns NOTHING! because I didn't see you foaming mouth on that like before. Shameless lying liar like your father the devil. Beings or being?Have you learnt that Human Being means ALL THE PEOPLE LIVING ON THIS EARTH? Jesus and the Father are the same Being. Mumu boyOponu man, and the ALL THINGS are through Jesus which means Jesus came through Himself. |
Barristter07:Lemme bolden that part well before your lying liar mouth change tune. If not because you're very idiotic and silly, you'd have known the position of people on that statement is the same as that of @color but ignorance and deception of watchtower won't allow you to see the truth. They say JESUS CHOOSES NOT TO KNOW like Jehovah did. But the hypocrisy on you people is to claim Jehovah have right to selectively use His all-knowing attribute and still be God yet when people say Jesus has power to know the day of judgment BUT CHOOSES NOT TO KNOW at that time you begin to foam in the mouth that it's a lie Jesus can't be God since He didn't know the day. Even when other verses in the scripture depict Jesus as ALL-KNOWING. |
Barristter07:One thing you've not been able to do is to counter these scriptures. The same scripture says: 1. Jesus is the source of life/The life/That eternal life. 2. Jesus is the source of creation. 3. Jesus is the source of Salvation 4. Jesus is the source of Faith. All these put your lying mouth in shame for saying Jesus isn't a source of ANYTHING. |
Barristter07:Of course do I expect you to believe, is it today you've been denying the scripture? The scripture says: The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God This is a proof that Holy Spirit knows the day of judgment whether He was mentioned by Jesus or not, whether Holy Spirit is a person or Not. |
Barristter07:So scripture is lying that Jesus is the source of life, The LIFE and that ETERNAL LIFE. Continue.... Being a son is to save the word. |
Barristter07:You idiot say Jehovah has right to use His all-knowing attribute then when Jehovah said "Now I know" means Jehovah was lying because He knows already. Don't bother to use your sense. |
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