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Barristter07:
There is nothing like human if they don't share flesh and blood, ( Heb 2:14) Unless you refer to dead bodies.

And the dead BODIES is what, animal?

Just like I said, your lying mouth put BREATH OF LIFE BUMP BLOOD in the flesh of those Ezekiel.

And for the records, The message is clear , Humans cannot see God. U can keep your glorified nonsense in your pocket. Idiot ,

From scripture, Moses saw God.

Your can keep living in your delusions for life.

glorified body that retain scars and wounds. Human is human and they can't see God, which means that heavenly life is for Spirit beings

Also, 1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion.

Jesus is human in heaven so as all His saints will be.

Barristter07:
Memories is not the same as the body that return to Dust, what return to dust is out of existence , Killin your transformation agenda .

Oponu radarada!

My point is, if Jehovah keeps the memories of those who died, is their dust not part of it?

So you can't say, it's out of existence to Jehovah even if it's out of existence to your deluded mind.

That means the same body who died is the one that will be raised.

Barristter07:
Before Adam was Created, Does he exist ?

I want to see if Dust = Non existence or not.

Oponu....How can Adam exist when he wasn't CREATED

Does people who died are in the memories of your god now or not? are they out of existence?

Idiot

That is not an human body , those described will even See God , Can a Human see God and Live ?

Thinking no dey for you, ... They are spirit persons.

Oponu ode...

The answer to that has been given above.

They are Glorified human.

It's out of existence, Emphasis on " Pattern of ressurection " like Jesus . They are going to get a New Body, Just as Jesus got a new one. Not transformed ... What return to dust is not in existence .

But they are living in the memory of your deluded god, is that something that OUT OF EXISTENCE? Olodo radarada.

A new body of flesh and bones.

Barristter07:
[s]Hebrews 2:14

" Because God’s children are human beings—made of flesh and blood —the Son also became flesh and blood "

It's very simple . Ezekiel was reffering to humans. Sharers of flesh and blood. Without this blood, they ain't human[/s]

Lying liar, the verse didn't say BREATH OF LIFE BUMP BLOOD in their flesh before becoming human, that was your delusion from your tiny brain as a result of doing the work of your father the Devil by adding to the scripture.

You forgotten it also said they will see God's face ? In your tiny head, that was a reference to Earth right ? It was reffering to heavenly life Olodo ... Those ressurected to heaven will see his Face as Spirit persons . No man can see God and Live. So they are not human. But Those chosen to Rule with Christ as Spirit persons.

Another jargons...

Flesh and blood can't inherit the kingdom of God but at resurrection the glorified human can and will see God.

Barristter07:
That's a Refurbished steel, nOt a New Steel Olodo ...

" To make steel, iron ore is heated and melted in furnaces where the impurities are removed and carbon added. "

This is a New Steel . Made from scratch .

When I say you're Olodo buruku, you'll be feeling bad.

PURE Iron and STEEL are corroded in the presence of moisture.

Our body is corrupted due to weaknesses.

A corroded Iron or steel can be made nonrusted IRON OR STEEL by coating them with NONRUSTED elements.

Anytime you do this YOU'RE PROTECTING THE IRON OR STEEL to last more than the usual time when they're left UNPROTECTED.

This is not refurbished BUT PROTECTION TO LAST LONG.

Stop diving into what you have limited knowledge of.

Not the same body, if it's the same body, It will retain Wounds, Scars, fire burns, and other defects like your Jesus human body retained it.

Afyer I even showed you the glaring nonsense you put up there

Something that goes out of existence can't be said to be RETURNED TO DUST.

Olodo oshi....

Argue with 1 Corinthians 15:38

What return to Dust , and brought back is an Act of RE-CREATION of a New Body , So many died in the sea eaten up by fishes and sharks. , Some persons eaten by lions and crocodiles on dry land. So eat that crap of same body . And use your sense for once.

But your deluded mind believes that Jehovah can keep ALL THE MEMORIES of those died in other to CREATE their perfect person back to life.

So won't Jehovah be able to keep the memories of individuals turned dust also?

Transformation requires the existence of a body , New body requires none . So grab the difference

It's new body because the BODY NOW functioning more than just ordinary. The body won't thirst, feel hungry, or need sun.

If Jesus body was transformed, it means that body didn't return to Non existence, likewise his apostles bodies too will be refurbished while it's not yet Decayed.

But if Jesus got a new body , it follows that his apostles too will lose their present body.

The Apostles died years ago and resurrection has never happened, so their bodies are already rotting but the people who will be alive at the time of Jesus coming will be CHANGED.

Barristter07:
The verse mention they are covered with flesh, the life of that flesh is in the blood. 100% scripture. The reason they are dry bones earlier was because they are dead and no longer possess blood .

Unless Jesus is a dead man, he possess blood as human.

But they are still human and the scripture didn't say BREATH OF LIFE PUMP blood into the flesh, that's your own addition to the scripture.

Jesus is a human in heaven now!

If the pattern of Jesus body is a deformed body with wounds. What do you expect ?

You See how silly you sound now.

Jesus is useless!!! So humans now redeem themselves with their own blood ? This same blood made it possible for them to live forever on Earth ? Why is it hard for you to admit Faithful persons are part of the second ressurection ?

Jesus didn't useless! They refused the first offer.

Romans 6:7 ,23 he who has died is Free from his sins. Unbelievers are judged based on what they did within the 1000 years of Christ reign. Not past life, their Ressurection is a benefit of Jesus Ransom sacrifice through which God overlook their past sins.

So what is essence of your moving from house to house when unbelievers are free from sins at death and God already overlooked their past since.

So after resurrection people will still be disobeying God! I don't think even an atheist will come back to life and failed to belief in God not to talk of disobeying Him.

Everyone that survive Satan's final test will live forever on Earth as Flesh and blood humans ( Rev 21:3)

That will die and rot because everything that responsible for corruption of the body are in the BLOOD.

So for human body to live forever, flesh and bones must be energized by what won't caused damages to the body.

That's why even scripture described that after resurrection our body won't be functioning like it is now because then we won't need sun, feel hungry, feel thirsty.

Which a body with blood seriously need for survival.

Which means your theory of flesh and blood live forever is false.

The point is for anyone to be human, they must possess blood, unless they are dead bodies.

Liar, flesh and bones makes us human, the life is in the blood, what the body needs is LIFE.

If scientists want to solve the issue of ageing, they need to find a way of replacing the blood vessel in our body but scientist can't deal with ageing by removing ALL OUR FLESH AND BONES and still claim we're human.

Go school you no gree!

haddeylium:
Yeah.. of course!
The body that is yet to heal from wounds and scars

Thanks sir!

If it's not heal, how will Jesus ask Thomas to thrust his hands? Anyways, I know you're just finding an escape route from your lies of DECOMPOSITION, DESTROYED, DISSOLVED bullcrap

What happened to Jesus body?

Barristter07:
Olodo oshi, it's called " REPAIR " not New.

See this ignoramus calling someone Olodo...on what he has no knowledge of.

Coating rusting Steel or iron with nonrusted elements is giving it a NEW BODY

Quote me wrong.

The first Corinthians 15 said

" And what you put in the ground is not the plant that will grow, but only a bare seed of wheat or whatever you are planting.
Then God gives it the new body he wants it to have. A different plant grows from each kind of seed. "

The body sown totally grow out of existence. Returns to dust and a New one is Created from dust.

Now, you're getting brain small small!

But first, just see how ridiculous you sound, The body SOWN totally grown out of existence. RETURN TO DUST

Can something out of EXISTENCE be found again?

Now, the main point here is, if the BODY returned to DUST and a NEW BODY was formed OUT OF THE SAME DUST, isn't that proved that the same BODY THAT TURN TO DUST was the same ONE BROUGHT OUT OF DUST?

Wisdom is a principal thing.

If Jesus body was repaired (transformed ) , then it means the apostles bodies won't rot away so it can be repaired too, is that the case ? New Bodies have to be given In the likeness of Jesus ressurection. Not repaired body ...

Jesus body was transformed because it didn't see corruption.

Those who will be alive at the return of Christ their bodies will also be TRANSFORMED.

Barristter07:
" 6 I will attach tendons to you and make flesh come upon you and cover you with skin; I will put breath in you, and you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the Lord.’” Ezekiel 37:6

The life of the flesh is in the blood. That breath signifies they are now alive with blood powering the flesh.

Just as Adam .

Lying liar, inserting his own gebbrish into the scripture.

So far so good, the verse didn't talk about breath PUMPING BLOOD in their flesh, it's just your delusion.

So there is blood in Jesus fleshly BODIES when He appeared to His disciples.

because a spirit doesn't have flesh and bones.

You are now seeing how ridiculous your human glorified body theory is sounding.

They can even ressurect with the marks of the beheading, what matters is it must be patterned after the one of Christ which has wounds and scars .

Rather how foolish and unreasonable your point is, since a beheaded person won't have head after resurrection.

I ask a question: if all believers undergo first ressurection , then who are the Faithful believers ressurected alongside wicked ones in the same hour at John 5:28,29?

The people who redeemed themselves with their own blood since they are not worthy of the first resurrection and that's the end where judgement will take place.

Now, turning the table around, from that passage, the UNBELIEVERS WILL BE CONDEMNED IN THE SAME HOUR OF RESURRECTION (since they are resurrected to condemnation), so where do you see it from the scripture that after resurrection God will allow unbelievers to learn more about Him and those who refused will be destroyed again?

You and this yeye human form in heaven, human form with Blood right ? Or you mean dead bodies ?

You and this your nonsensical human turns spirit being.

Flesh and bones, living human.

haddeylium:
You caught my attention with this.
You mean a human body that Jesus has 'beyond normal human bodies' Can still have wounds, retain scars?


ok..I'm done

Do you understand what it means to be beyond normal human bodies now?

Like I told your brother, 1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion on that.

Barristter07:
Romans 6:5 in the likeness of his ressurection.

@ haydellium , I saw how you have tried to articulate your point . But what you don't know is, the individuals you are chatting with are clowns, the above post was made by Emusan, someone telling you the same body of Jesus that died was the one raised , According to Romans 6:5 if Jesus body was transformed without decay, it follows that His disciples too get transformed without decay , emphasis on " Likeness of his ressurection " but coincidentally , we found that this didn't happen, rather they return to dust of the earth . For them to have a body, they would have to be Given New Bodies. This Emusan also testified below in a post made 10:50am , December 18.



So in short , Jesus body wasnt actually transformed, it was replaced just as his apostles will get a New body in the likeness of his ressurection.

Your ignorance has no match!

If a decay body was transformed into a body that can't decay or die, isn't that A NEW BODY?

Pure iron and steel can rust in the presence of oxygen or moisture, but if the iron or steel now coated (being transformed) with nonrusted metal like silver or Tin isn't that a NEW STEEL or IRON?

Like I said, when you throw your God's giving brian for lies, this is the result.

Barristter07:
Dead bones you mean ? THEY ARE DEAD NA UNTIL BREATH OF LIFE PUMP BLOOD IN THEIR FLESH . Proving again ,WITHOUT BLOOD, YOUR HUMAN JESUS DOESN'T EXIST . It mean he is Dead

Where does it state that BREATH OF LIFE PUMP BLOOD in their flesh?

Lying liar like your father the Devil!

U saw wounds ?

That's the pattern of Jesus ressurection , believers would emulate. You see your life outside

So it also means people who their head was beheaded won't resurrect because head detached from their body.

Clown!

Again, 1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion.

No difference, This faithful ones and wicked ones undergo the same second ressurection . After the 1000 years as humans, they are tested, and Those Faithful live forever as humans ( Rev 21:3)

So if no difference, how can the same BODY who is subject to death can still live forever?

Your brain is actually paining you.

First ressurection is a Ressurection to heaven, in God's very own Divine nature as Spirit. Not every believer undergo this, If they are all taken, Who are the Faithful ones tht ressurected in the second ressurection ? John 5:28,29

First resurrection is the resurrection to heaven like Jesus in human form and ALL BELIEVERS will take part in the first resurrection. John 1:12-13

haddeylium:
We won't have this discussion if you checked the meaning of 'Depreciation'
The second car depreciated, The first car didn't.

Like I said, you're still clinging on this your intellectual dishonesty.

Something depreciate only applied to VALUE not the elements.

You've failed again here.

To destroy- To damage.
Did Jehovah Damage Jesus' Human body...No?
Jehovah create human body using Dust that contains the individual components

So Jehovah didn't DECOMPOSE Jesus body again

You See how bad it is to lie and have little knowledge about the point of discussion.

You claimed now that Jehovah didn't damage/destroy Jesus body but you said below that Jesus body was only DISSOLVED.

What does it mean to DISSOLVE something?

1 BECOME PART OF LIQUID[intransitive, transitive] if a solid dissolves, or if you dissolve it, it mixes with a liquid and becomes part of it 

2 END [transitive] to formally end a parliament, business arrangement, marriage etc The monarch had the power to dissolve parliament.

3 → dissolve into/in laughter/tears etc

4 BECOME WEAKER [intransitive, transitive] to gradually become smaller or weaker before disappearing, or to make something do this

[link=https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/dissolve]Dictionary[/link]

Your definition will either fall in category 1 or 4

Which ever one, you're still talking about DECOMPOSITION

Jesus Human body dissolves into this components like the car that was dissembled. Both didn't suffer decay or rot towards it's dissemble

You're welcome

Only God knows how many intellectual suicide you've committed on this particular point of view just because you left your God's giving brian for lies.

To dissolve is to make a SOLID (soluble) becomes part of a LIQUID (solvent) the end product of dissolve is SOLUTION.

So by using the word DISSOLVE for Jesus body means Jehovah turn it to a SOLUTION not dissembled into its constituents.


Only you have used DECOMPOSITION, DISSEMBLED, DISSOLVE.

Continue!

haddeylium:
@bold
Exactly!
That's what all human body experience except that of Jesus'!
He didn't depreciate from the original form.
There, his flesh didn't not suffer corruption or decay

But it was FINALLY depreciated from its original form by Jehovah.

Use this illustration
A Car can be disassembled into each individual components it was constructed. Towards, disassemblage, it was not corrupted or see rot. That those components can be use in the assemblage of another.
This car is not destroyed

Now, this other car get rotten over time, the metals rust, decay, the individual components fall out and ruin. You can say this car suffer corruption!

After I warned you about diving into what you have zero knowledge about, you still come up with this analogy

So where are the parts of Jesus' body kept

The car is not destroyed but you claimed the body was DECOMPOSED/Destroyed.

Why changing your mouth?

Notice among the version Emusan quoted
'His flesh will not decay'
'His flesh will not rotten'

To decay is to decompose/destroy

So what happened to Jesus body?

Jehovah kept his word and not his flesh did see rot or corruption

Didn't Jehovah destroy the body again?

You grab?
Thanks!

Do you?

Janosky:
John 17:4-5 ( compare1 Corinthians 15:44-45)
"4I have glorified You on earth by accomplishing the work You gave Me to do. 5And now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with the glory I had with You before the world existed."

Jesus Christ confirms he is going back to receive the glory in the spiritual realm as a Spirit, shame on your False,LYING claim.
Mr LIENUS

The deluded JaNosense is here with his baseless and unconnected words.

haddeylium:
We're both reaching conclusion based on the much will know.

But we didn't see the conclusion you're reaching.

You believe he didn't suffer corruption by raising up exactly with human body he was killed with.

That's what the scripture says.

corruption is an English word which is polysemic
I compared with the original meaning and showed you it means-His flesh didn't worsen, smell, or depreciate from his pure.

But to see corruption is to decompose/destroyed

So if Jesus' body won't see corruption then it must means it won't be DESTROYED by any means in the first place.

See how different translations put Acts 2:31

AMPC: "He, foreseeing this, spoke [by foreknowledge] of the resurrection of the Christ (the Messiah) that He was not deserted [in death] and left in Hades (the state of departed spirits), nor did His body know decay or see destruction."

CSB: Seeing what was to come, he spoke concerning the resurrection of the Messiah: He was not abandoned in Hades, and his flesh did not experience decay.

CEB: Having seen this beforehand, David spoke about the resurrection of Christ, that he wasn’t abandoned to the grave, nor did his body experience decay.

CJB: he was speaking in advance about the resurrection of the Messiah, that it was he who was not abandoned in Sh’ol and whose flesh did not see decay.

CEV: David knew this would happen, and so he told us that Christ would be raised to life. He said that God would not leave him in the grave or let his body decay.

GNT: David saw what God was going to do in the future, and so he spoke about the resurrection of the Messiah when he said, ‘He was not abandoned in the world of the dead; his body did not rot in the grave.’

PHILLIPS: He foresaw the resurrection of Christ, and it is this of which he is speaking. Christ was not deserted in death and his body was never destroyed.

We can all see from here that, corruption/decay/decomposition/destroy is what the verse is talking about.

And the key point here is that the BODY won't "EXPERIENCE/SEE"

So for God to later DECOMPOSE/DESTROY Jesus body means the prophesy of David is a lie.

The implication of your words is that:
Jesus returned to that corruptible body that gets tired, can be pierced, or killed!
God's word says 'Jesus is never to return to corruption" ?

You were saying?

Lack of scriptural understanding made you uttered that @bolden part.

Resurrection is about sowed in corruption and reap in incorruptible. Which means the flesh now being transformed beyond normal human bodies that decay and died.

Barristter07:
E Pain am
So y'all have been pushing a dead Jesus agenda all this while .

Does a human under surgery a dead human being the lying liar?

Barristter07:
.Have made my point. U can clinch to your ignorance. What matters is the word Spirit or spirits is neither male or female.

Just as I've made mine and you can keep living in your delusions.

No, to be human, it must be energized by Blood. Or else it's dead.

Hebrew 2:14

" Because God’s children are human beings—made of flesh and blood —the Son also became flesh and blood. " NLT

Leviticus 17:14 made that point. Is the Bible an empty skull ?

Lying liar...

LIFE was only in the BLOOD, Ezekiel talks about DRYING BONES which are human without blood.

Here is that Glorified body , emphasis on the word " Pattern " . Am so happy you used that word Finally

They told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he replied, “I won’t believe it unless I see the nail wounds in his hands, put my fingers into them, and place my hand into the wound in his side.”

" Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and look at my hands. Put your hand into the wound in my side. Don’t be faithless any longer. Believe!” John 20:25,27

So ressurected ones will retain wounds , hunch backs, accident scars, fire burned skins. What a Glorified body .

See Jesus describing His human body yet a deluded JWs claiming He's not human.

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion on that.

Ever heard of " second death " ?

I doubt . People will be ressurected as humans, male and Females , both good and bad , and those who fail the final test will die again. While the Faithful believers Live forever ( Revelation 21:3)

@bold...very laughable, on what condition will faithful believers live FOREVER when they have the same resurrection like those experiencing second death?

Something must make their own resurrection different from those who will fail the final test....you'll see how you'll rope yourself into more trouble now.

Only those going to heaven to share God's divine nature as Spirit won't be affected by second death.

ALL BELIEVERS won't be affected by the second death because Jesus would have come for ALL HIS SAINTS at first resurrection.

Barristter07:
Is a dead human . No doubt ( even the link you screenshotted said the blood must be returned )

See the brain dead person declaring a human under surgery dead.

To tell you that resurrected body are different from the normal human body now.

The resurrected bodies wont:

1. Feel hungry again
2. Neither thirst any more
3. Neither need the Sun nor any HEAT

These three things are essential for human body but for God to say we won't need this no more means there will be drastic change to our resurrected body.

Barristter07:
That actual word " Represented " them.

You're still lying!

You can't twist this one, here is your statement again "SPIRIT persons (plural) are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

It's evident from this statement that what you have in mind is THEIR PERSONS not that actual word spirit!

He is a Dead human. Life is in the blood, Any human without Blood is Dead, Dust!!!

So if flesh and bones can be energized through other means without blood(life is in the blood) can it still be called human?

Humans are Flesh and Blood . Without blood, they are dead.

2Samuel 19:12


" You are my brothers; you are my bone and my flesh. Why then should you be the last to bring back the king?’ [ "

A brain dead human like You would say because the text said Flesh and bones, the individuals don't have blood? For an human to be called a Living person, they require BLOOD.

If Jesus doesn't have Blood, then he is a dead man. ( Lev 17:14). Good you even bring up the case of a dead Lazarus... Any flesh without blood is Dead !!! Focus point

When Lazarus ressurected as Human, His blood was restored. It's essential.

An empty skull person like you has already says LIFE is in the blood.

Can the flesh and bones be called human if another thing energized the body?

Jesus is human now in heaven, a flesh and bones is human.

No single sense , Jesus ressurected as flesh and bones , forgetin he has wounds , yet you could use the word " Pattern, " So I was correct all this while that Scars and wounds would be retained on ressurected ones body.

As you have lost your thinking faculty.

We will be patterned AFTER JESUS Glorified body
And again, 1 Corinthians 15:38 is to cure your delusion on that.

Ressurection as Humans won't alter the Asian, American, African looks and varieties, Lazarus that died was the one that came out. His appearance didn't change , he also retain his Male sex , So as far as humans are concerned, varieties exist . And they are Male and Females. ( Rev 21:3 , Genesis 5:2)

But IN CHRIST JESUS there is no Jews or Greek, male or female but we're ALL ONE.

So you believe that type of Lazarus resurrection is the type of resurrection that people will have.

Where is Lazarus today because after resurrection people won't die again.

Clown!

Baptism into Christ like that Romans I gave you explain is a baptism that enable the bearer share in the likeness of Jesus ressurection . His very Divine nature as Spirit beings. No male or female...

Are you baptized INTO CHRIST?

Now the lying liar wants to tell us that there's two different baptism INTO CHRIST.

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for your time Sir!

You don't need to! Just keep shut since you can't tell me the God you invoke to Bless me.

haddeylium:
Check the picture for the strong meaning!

Read slowly for understanding
I'm not in debate for if the end product is decomposition or not.

You're not in debate for if the END PRODUCT is DECOMPOSITION....

Can you see your hypocrisy here

According to the strong meaning of the word used..
All human body suffer 'Corruption' - By growing worse, getting into ruin, spoiling.

THE WORD corruption itself is DECOMPOSITION

Saying Jesus body didn't suffer CORRUPTION is to say it didn't DECOMPOSE, can you get it?

So if you say Jesus' body was decomposed/corrupted by God means Jesus body underwent CORRUPTION.

But Jesus body didn't experience any of this to attain dissolution. So, His Flesh didn't experience corruption.


Thanks for your time!

You're still committing intellectual dishonesty!

Dissolution/decompositionc/corruption are still the same thing.

For God to decompose Jesus' body means God CORRUPTED the body.

For you to get the clear picture, substitute CORRUPTION in any place you use decomposition/dissolution e.t.c

Even scientifically, nothing undergone decomposition without ruin/rot because chemical reaction must take place but the process can be QUICK or SLOW!

So to say something decomposed is to say the thing gets corrupted.

Thank you!

haddeylium:
The Greek word a·phthar·siʹa translated to 'Corrupt' means something to get spoilt, to bring lower to it's inferior state!

Now, you've rush to Greek

Besides, you're lying the Greek word used for corruption in Acts 2:27,31; 13:34,35,36,37 in reference to Christ body is "Diaphthora" from "diaphtheiro" which means DECAY:...corruption

So which either way you look at it, it's still DECOMPOSITION.

Yes! The Bible teaches Jesus flesh didn't undergo this process

But you still claim God decomposed Jesus body which is still the same as DECAY....CORRUPTION.

Thank you and thanks for your time

So next time use your God given sense and not use watchtower knowledge to disrupt scientific knowledge.

Barristter07:
Spirit persons are Spirits . Reffering to the word

You can't twist this one, here is your statement again "SPIRIT persons (plural) are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

It's evident from this statement that what you have in mind is THEIR PERSONS not that actual word spirit!

So far they are humans . They are Creatures of flesh and blood, Lazarus ressurected, so as others, ressurection as Human is human. Flesh and blood.

You always bring point that do drag you into mud the more.

So was Lazarus human in the grave in that four days without BLOOD or not?

Anthropormorphism is when you apply human traits to non humans. Since you confess those at Revelation 21:3 Are actually humans. Your anthropormophic lies earlier was exposed

Did you understand when I talk about anthropomorphic? I guess you don't.

Yes they are human!

So its either the case of Jesus As u stated it, is an anthropormorphism or he is actually human with flesh and blood. You have to pick one ...

Funny how he keeps using the phrase FLESH AND BLOOD just because his tiny brain couldn't go beyond that.

Jesus is human with flesh and bones, which is the same body all believers will have after resurrection.

Just as you said above, Lazarus came back to life as HUMAN not as spirit being that's what resurrection is all about.

The earth he has given to humans. Psalm 115:17

Then who says it wasn't given to humans?

That Galatians was reffering to those with heavenly everlasing life. it says those baptized INTO Christ ?

Are you not baptized INTO CHRIST?

Are ALL BELIEVERS don't baptize INTO CHRIST.

Romans 6:3,5 " All of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death ? ...if we have become United with him in the likeness of his death, we will certainly also be United with him in the likeness of his ressurection "

This verse is for ALL BELIEVERS, not baptized INTO CHRIST means you're not of Christ.

Jesus ressurected as a Spirit, so are these ones.
In that kind of ressurection , there is neither male or female , Jew or Greek . Like the heavenly one (Jesus ) so too are those who are heavenly, not those on Earth.

Jesus resurrected as human with flesh and bones and that's the pattern of resurrection ALL BELIEVERS will have since IN CHRIST there's no male or female.

So you means after resurrection people who will live forever on earth will still be Jew, Greek, Nigerian and American....

You're a clown.

Either you agree , or push your human agenda and contradict scripture. Cos if the likeness of Jesus ressurection is human, then there will be male and Female .

IN CHRIST there's no male or female!

Are you in Christ?

Will you live forever on earth or you'll be in heaven?

And it pleased him to Fashion it after the Glorious body of Christ Phil 3:21. Does it have wounds and scars ? Hunchback people sef go retain theirs, accident victims too . Na wa for una

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion!

MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES aren't your enemies Mr Emusan,

And where did I say they are my enemies

Mr Maximumu

all we are saying is "if you want to be a worshiper of our God you must adhere to the same rules as we do"

And when did I say I want to be a worshiper of you god?

All I'm asking for which I don't know what is so difficult there to mention, is WHICH GOD did you invoke to Bless me when you know your OWN god can't bless me?

Which will safe us from all this back and forth jamboree.

This your i hate them because they hate us attitude will never get you anywhere.

Only someone with a heart full of hatred knows another person harboring hate.

You can provide where I made that statement.

I know there's nothing you can't resort to when your demonic doctrines are put under scrutinizing.

Jehovah's Witnesses are against false worship not you in person, it's you that's carrying the fight on your head yet you can't present the religion (group) you're working with!

Just as I'm against false doctrine and twisting of God's word. so you can only be disturbed when the word of God is against your doctrines.

Let me know where the scripture says we should present GROUP we're working with.

haddeylium:
The point is , His body as foretold didn't suffer corruption towards its decomposition into the constituents elements he was made of.
All the body that dies usually get decay, grow worse, deterioted from the original pure form it was made of.

When your ignorance is being pointed out instead of your to sit and learn you're still displaying your illiteracy the more.

CORRUPTION itself is decomposition, it can be SLOW or QUICK.

Saying Jesus body didn't suffer corruption towards its decomposition it's gross intellectual disorder.

Seems you know about science. I'm not so much of a nerd.

I'm a science student both in theory and practical.

When Iron bar rust/decay/melt it loses it original pure form it was made from towards it decomposition

DECAY/MELT/RUST are all decomposition/corruption which can be SLOW or QUICK depending on the process.

When you know you're not so vast in science why can't you keep your mouth shut

This is a public disgrace even something a grade 1 science student know.

Iron bar wasn't made from original pure iron form in the first place.

But when it's melt/dissolve, it still retain its elements that he can mode back into that iron bar.

By dissolving it means chemical reaction (decomposition) has taken place.

So is Jesus, his flesh decomposition (corruption)still retain the pure form of it constituents elements thereby Not suffering CORRUPTION

Thanks

I inserted that @color bracket to show you how absurd your statement is.

You're trying to say that decomposition is different from CORRUPTION whereas inline with the point of view corruption and decomposition are the same thing.

So if you can substitute corruption in the place where you use decomposition you will see how you're deceiving and confusing yourself.

All this is because you neglected your brain for watchtower delusion.

MaxInDHouse:
[s]The post is still there Sir, just as those murderous mob rushed at our brother (Stephen) because they were bitterfly enflamed by his comments {Act 7:57} so you can only close your heart, you can't stop others from getting the sense of that post!
As for my own God his blessings is for everyone { it's left to you to either claim it like Cornelius and Zacchaeus Luke 19:2-9; Act 10:4,24-26 or reject it like the Pharisees and Sadducees! John 10:32-33[/s]

Again, nonsensical as its out of point.

If you want to receive the blessings from our own God all you need to do is humbly listen and learn from us, that's the only way you can receive his blessings!

Then WHICH GOD do you invoke to Bless me, since your OWN god can't bless me unless I humbly listen and learn from his zombi.e.s

That's the question!

haddeylium:
Lol.
let me simplify this
When something decay or suffer corruption; It grow worse, deteriorate, and get weaken towards decomposition. Like when iron rust.

At the end, it's still decay just that in this way it experiences SLOW DECOMPOSITION.

But Jesus body didn't suffer this corruption; His body was dissolved into constituent elements he was made of.
Like when water was dissolved and separated into Hydrogen and Oxygen

Thanks!

Ignorance everywhere, this shows you're not a science student but just using watchtower nonsense interpretation.

WATER CAN'T BE DISSOLVED!!!

Water is a SOLUTION ALREADY and you can only dissolve SOLID in solutions.

Rather water can be separated through a RIGOROUS PROCESS that can be QUICK or SLOW.

But the end result of corruption( as used for what Jesus body won't experience) is decomposition in any form.

So how would God say Jesus body won't decompose(throu slow decomposition) but the same God went ahead to decompose(using quick decomposition) the body?

Is still one of the seventh wonders of JWs!

To even think that Jesus' body (solid) needs a solutions (probably acid because ordinary water can dissolve body) before it can be dissolved.

Or we can then say, Jesus isn't the ONLY person whose body didn't experience corruption since some humans body have been DISSOLVED through Alkaline hydrolysis.

A New Way to Dispose of Corpses—With Chemistry!

Alkaline hydrolysis is a clean, green method for dissolving a body into its chemical building blocks; the runny remains just wash down the drain.

https://www.wired.com/story/alkaline-hydrolysis-liquid-biocremation/

Barristter07:
Won't unbelievers mortal bodies come alive too by virtue of God's spirit ?

Says the deluded JWs!

Barristter07:
Consider the word " Spirits ".

Liar, where do SPIRITS(plural) appear in your statement?

You can't twist this one, here is your statement again "SPIRIT persons (plural) are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

It's evident from this statement that what you have in mind is THEIR PERSONS not that actual word spirit!

Now that the masculine gender was used for the spirit person of Jesus which then makes Him to be HUMAN.

" With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them.+ 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes,+ and death will be no more, + neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.+ The former things have passed away.”

The persons spoken of here have been dying before, Are this spirits or humans ? Or God died?

They are human of resurrection!

Revelation 21:3 is not anthropomorphic , it's reffering to human beings.

Then who says they are not humans beings before

The point your deluded mind can't phantom is, claiming that the word translated as HUMAN in that verse makes them FLESH AND BLOOD is nonsensical when the same word was used for spirit persons which you later twist to be anthropomorphic usage when your lies are exposed.

So you are still yet to provide the proof of where the Elders are called Humans ?

If the word translated as Human has never been used for a FLESH AND BLOOD being but ONLY FOR a SPIRIT BEING, will you have said the person the word is applied to is a FLESH AND BLOOD?

Humans are forever made male and Females.

And since masculine gender is used for Jesus after His resurrection, then Jesus remains a Male in heaven.

Proved there is no male or Female in Heaven. Like the heavenly one ( Christ ) , so too are those who are heavenly. The heavenly ressurection is not as humans.

Then there won't be male or female IN earth since IN CHRIST there's no male or female.

Unless you tell us those who will live forever on earth are not IN CHRIST.

Human bodies that retain Scars and wounds , human bodies that are male and female .

Am glad you can't counter it, sorry 1 Corinthians 15:38 doesn't say it won't be fashioned like tht of Christ which has wounds.

Again, 1 Corinthians 15:38 will cure your delusion!

MaxInDHouse:
[b][s]The highlighted!
Your religious groups must have taught you that blessings means possessing material things but that's not the blessings our God gives today!
The greatest blessing anyone can receive from my own God is the opportunity given to all as we locate your doors with the message of hope from our God. Romans 10:15
Whoever rejects our message is throwing away his/her own portion of the blessing our own God is distributing to all! Matthew 10:11-15
Satan's agents can't copy that because there is no substance in what they're carrying up and down that's why no other religious group has the boldness to knock on people's doors rather they'll stand in the market place or public buses shouting without a particular audience in mind. Matthew 12:19
Only JWs have the truth that's why we come to your homes directly so that you may choose whether to receive the blessing or reject it. Your shouting in the buses or streets gives no one the chance to ask you questions. There is no way to ascertain who heard you because you never face anyone directly to present your messages unlike JWs who will present our message. That's why all of you are merging up not because you want to preach anything tangible but to show yourselves as those who have rejected the blessings from our God.
Cornelius has been trying all his best to come close to our God, note what God's word say about the blessings this Roman received, he was given the opportunity to hear our message and because his heart is already prepared for the good news, Cornelius received it with great joy.
My saying "God bless you" is to keep praying for you so that you can wake up from this pigheadedness, that's why we don't need to speak with those who have been in our midst but left to criticize us (Apostates).
To us you are just like those stoning Stephen, my brother prayed for them and God answered, that's why Paul was blessed because he was doing all those things out of misdirected zeal.
So if you too are doing all this out of zeal without accurate knowledge our prayer to JEHOVAH is to bless you with many more years, perhaps you can see reasons to stop fighting against the truth.
Many like you fought with all their hearts against the JWs but later came back with hearts full of regrets to say "i'm sorry" of course we will rejoice with such ones and tell them "we know you did all that out of ignorance"[/s]

Cry of a deluded soul.

So Emusan may God bless you!

Which God are you INVOKING to bless me, if your OWN God can't bless me?

That's the crucial point.

Barristter07:
The same Spirit within them will bring unbelievers to life , so ?

So, both unbelievers and believers are going to heaven then since they have the same spirit of God.

Number one , that translation established it that those whose bodies were given life all have the spirit of God in them. So in short unbelievers have Spiritual bodies

Okay back to your rants, the Mortal bodies uses blood to function, Do you agree ?

"The THOSE....and ....ALL HAVE THE SPIRIT OF GOD in THEM"

Do you mean Apostle Paul included unbelievers in that statement?

The Bodies will be energized by the Holy Spirit...

Ode....