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Barristter07:Do you even understand the usage of the word IMAGE in that verse? I guess you don't, if not you won't be foaming in your mouth. Jesus is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD. He was not CREATED/MADE in the IMAGE of God as you earlier lied. And was called the source of creation. Sons of God simply refer to Sons of the Most High . So keep that lie of Jesus is within that God. You idiot think u can just twist the word GodSee the chronic twister of the word of God talking nonsense here. Didn't ALL THINGS create for Jesus? How can the person who ALL THINGS created for not have ANYTHING? Nothing belong to Jesus until he was given. That's not ownershipCSB: Everything the Father has is mine. This is why I told you that he takes from what is mine and will declare it to you. John 16:15 Let the scripture silent the lying liar mouth. The dictionary u provided is the same one I gave you ... Human being is one manTry again liar, Go back to my previous post and see the dictionary I provided where is was boldly written that Human Being means people of different cultures. People will share the nature of Christ who is a glorified human not Divine Nature of God. To have God's nature is to be God. It's like saying animals have Human nature and still be animals. So both the Father and the Son are of the same being. |
Barristter07:And the Son through whom are ALL THINGS Same being means same person, If they are different persons . Your postulation is dead on arrival .You haven't show me where I said they are the same Person. Same being means same nature! No one can share God's nature. To have God nature is to be God Himself. Either this TRANSLATIONS are correct or 1Cor 8:6 is a lie or vice versa.You're the one wrong here! because the Greek word for source were used in those verses. So you can craw back to your father the first liar. |
Barristter07:Show us where it was written that Jesus was MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD. Clown! We can as well say, the Father has NO IMAGE since another person is His Image. Olodo oshi. Jesus is The VERY IMAGE OF GOD. Under no circumstances would an owner be given authority.We have the Son of God and Jesus is within that GOD. So what belongs to the Father belongs to Jesus. Says the scripture. Human being means " A man "Human Being includes PEOPLE living on earth. I've provided the dictionary for that. So the Father and the son are of the same Being. Same being means one same personIt means NATURE here. Ode... |
Barristter07:And you're still lying because ALL THINGS is ALL THINGS no two meanings to it. Jesus doesn't even have the power to know, The time or day is Strictly in the Father owns authority , Not Father and Son.Didn't Jesus have ALL AUTHORITY? Ode... |
Barristter07:Here it is again The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God. This is a proof that Holy Spirit knows the day of judgment whether He was mentioned by Jesus or not, whether Holy Spirit is a person or Not. |
Barristter07:My postulation or what the Bible says? The Father and the Son are of the same BEING, it's so easy to see scripture saying they are the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS. But difficult for Devil advocate like you to understand. Jesus is not the source of life, he was granted life.The scripture says you're a liar Jesus is the source of life Jesus is not the source of creation, nobody is his sonRevelation 3:14 says you're a liar, Jesus is the source of Creation. Jesus is not the source of salvation , He was sentHeb 2:10 says you're a liar, Jesus is the source of Salvation. Jesus is not the source of Faith , he was sentHeb 12:2 says you're a liar, Jesus is the source of FAITH. You can keep deny it but scripture will continue to proof you wrong. Source is a wrong word in all this cases.Tell that to Jehovah who inspired His word in that way. |
Barristter07:But your deluded brain was referring to John 17 that ALL AUTHORITY was given to Jesus. You will see the clown giving ALL AUTHORITY different meanings now. Just like I said, the scripture keeps putting your lying mouth in shame. Once again, Jesus decided not to use His all-knowing attribute at that time. |
Barristter07:Jesus is the very IMAGE of God. Where was it said Jesus was MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD. Like I said, even your father the Devil will be so shocked on many lies you've made on this thread. The ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS through Christ so if Jesus is part of that ALL THINGS as you lied earlier it means Jesus came through Himself. Your level of cognitive dissonance is so highYou're still living in this your delusion. Weren't ALL THINGS created for Jesus? How can ALL THINGS create for Him and still does not own ANYTHING. Go back to that Phil 2:7 and see the reason Jesus was given Authority. No human being means " A man "Human Being means ALL THE PEOPLE on earth. The same Jesus that exist in the image of someone else?Jesus is the VERY IMAGE of God Lying liar JWs. |
Barristter07:Breeze has blown and fowl yansh has been exposed. That verse is for Jesus. Secondly, pioneer is not source, For the records it was The Father that Send his son Jesus as saviorEven your father the Devil will be so shocked at the lies you're peddling on this thread. The only thing is that you have no shame to see your lies. The Greek translated as Pioneer "archēgos" The Greek word - ἀρχηγὸς archēgos - is a more general term, and denotes, properly, the author or source of anything; then a leader, chief prince. In Acts 3:15, it is rendered "prince" - "and killed the prince of life." So in Acts 5:31. "Him hath God exalted to be a prince and a Saviour." In Hebrews 12:2, it is rendered "author." "Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith;" compare the notes at that place. Barnes Note! " Furthermore, we have seen with our own eyes and now testify that the Father sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. " 1John 4:14But Jesus is called SOURCE in that verse and not the Father. Keep lying. God raised Some human savior's for isreal, they are not the source of the salvation , but he who send them.But no where were they called SOURCE OF SALVATION. You can provide the verse where anyone was called SOURCE OF SALVATION. |
Janosky:The day sense will fall on you, there will be a great joy in the camp of your father the Devil. But for now, your father the Devil is still very much disappointed in you because of your lack of sense. |
Barristter07:Firstly, the word God was not in the original manuscript. This is the literal translation by YLT YLT: For it was becoming to Him, because of whom [are] the all things, and through whom [are] the all things, many sons to glory bringing, the author of their salvation through sufferings to make perfect, now you will quickly accept this to support your lying doctrine but reject other versions that did the same in a place like 1 Timothy 3:16 and call them fraud. Hypocrite!!! Lastly, the same Jesus you've been lying against of not being SOURCE OF ANYTHING, is the same one the verse you quoted says He is the PIONEER/SOURCE of Salvation. Thank God you even bracket the world "Jesus" yourself. See how you're exposing your shameless lying mouth yourself. |
Barristter07:And the same scripture affirms that the same "ALL THINGS are through the Son and for the Son" so it's THE SAME "ALL THINGS" if Jesus is included in that ALL things then it means Jesus came through HIMSELF. Jesus belong to the Father , came through the Father ... He exist in his image as his created firstborn son.See how your shameless face is being exposed. So do you now agree that WE BELONG to Jesus? When you can boldly say, Jesus owns NOTHING! because I didn't see you foaming mouth on that like before. Shameless lying liar like your father the devil. Beings or being?Have you learnt that Human Being means ALL THE PEOPLE LIVING ON THIS EARTH? Jesus and the Father are the same Being. Mumu boyOponu man, and the ALL THINGS are through Jesus which means Jesus came through Himself. |
Barristter07:Lemme bolden that part well before your lying liar mouth change tune. If not because you're very idiotic and silly, you'd have known the position of people on that statement is the same as that of @color but ignorance and deception of watchtower won't allow you to see the truth. They say JESUS CHOOSES NOT TO KNOW like Jehovah did. But the hypocrisy on you people is to claim Jehovah have right to selectively use His all-knowing attribute and still be God yet when people say Jesus has power to know the day of judgment BUT CHOOSES NOT TO KNOW at that time you begin to foam in the mouth that it's a lie Jesus can't be God since He didn't know the day. Even when other verses in the scripture depict Jesus as ALL-KNOWING. |
Barristter07:One thing you've not been able to do is to counter these scriptures. The same scripture says: 1. Jesus is the source of life/The life/That eternal life. 2. Jesus is the source of creation. 3. Jesus is the source of Salvation 4. Jesus is the source of Faith. All these put your lying mouth in shame for saying Jesus isn't a source of ANYTHING. |
Barristter07:Of course do I expect you to believe, is it today you've been denying the scripture? The scripture says: The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God This is a proof that Holy Spirit knows the day of judgment whether He was mentioned by Jesus or not, whether Holy Spirit is a person or Not. |
Barristter07:So scripture is lying that Jesus is the source of life, The LIFE and that ETERNAL LIFE. Continue.... Being a son is to save the word. |
Barristter07:You idiot say Jehovah has right to use His all-knowing attribute then when Jehovah said "Now I know" means Jehovah was lying because He knows already. Don't bother to use your sense. |
Barristter07:See this deluded one! You want me to answer your question without answering mine! The question you're still dodging is: Then how can The Holy Spirit who SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God won't know the day? |
Barristter07:Just as you came through Jesus and belong to Jesus, live through Jesus. Even 1 Corinthians 3:23 you cited earlier exposed your lying mouth that JESUS OWNS NOTHING, when that verse clearly says "You BELONG to Christ" I know, you don't BELONG to Christ because you're the child of your father the devil. almost all translations use other for emphasis. MumuOde....provide your ALMOST here. If it doesn't have different context, Jesus won't have been part of all things that belong to the Father.Jesus was not part of ALL THINGS....oponu! ALL THINGS is ALL THINGS. The ALL THINGS that came from the Father, is the same ALL THINGS that come THROUGH the Son. Open your eyes na...They are the same BEING That means he was a Son prior to coming on Earth , Sons are brothers . MumuYou this stupid, idiotic brainwashed person. If you have taken your time to read that text instead of using watchtower nonsense, you'd have seen the reason Jesus was called our brother. But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels FOR A LITTLE WHILE, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. 10 In bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through what he suffered. 11 Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. SO JESUS IS NOT ASHAMED TO CALL THEM BROTHERS and SISTERS...14 Since the children have flesh and blood, he too SHARED in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil— 15 and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death. 16 For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham’s descendants. Heb 2 Pints from that text: 1. Jesus was made LITTLE LOWER for a WHILE 2. To bring MANY sons and daughters to glory 3. Both He (Jesus) who makes people Holy and the PEOPLE WHO ARE MADE Holy have the same Father 4. Jesus SHARED in humanity 5. He didn't come to help ANGELS (which means angels are not part of this arrangement) but the Abraham descendants. A good Bible student will know Jesus was called our brother because He became like US. Your last line is robotic , am not engaging you on that. If you have the skill, go back to that thread and defend your Jesus is human theory.Jesus is human in heaven now.... Keep ranting about that. The bold reveal who is the owner of All things, Jesus himself belong to him .But your lies of Jesus didn't OWN anything has been exposed as PEOPLE BELONG TO JESUS. In fact Jesus Himself said in Mark 9:41 CEV: "And anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name, just because you belong to me, will surely be rewarded." And the same ALL THINGS belongs to Jesus. |
Barristter07:See shallow reasoning! Oponu... But Jesus is source of life according to the scripture. The scriptures is clear , we have One God, the Father ... From whom all things came. The only source of all things , All things even Jesus came from him, this is why he is his son .Just as the scripture is clear that Jesus is the source of life and shut up your lying mouth forever that Jesus isn't a SOURCE OF ANYTHING. ALL THINGS CAME THROUGH Jesus which mill make Jesus come from Himself. |
Barristter07:Still ranting! Here is my point again: Coming from a deluded JWs who believes that Jehovah is all-knowing but can selectively use that attribute. Which means Jehovah can choose to know something and also choose not to know. We can as well say Jehovah is lying. But see them foaming in their lying mouth about Jesus! Hypocrite! |
Barristter07:In essence you just pulled that out from your deluded brain. If holy spirit another separate person also know, that makes two persons and Jesus a liar .... Agree ?The question you're still dodging is: Then how can The Holy Spirit who SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God won't know the day? |
livingchrist:That's why I do use the word "Hypocrite" for them. It perfectly describes them. |
Barristter07:Keep jumping like kangaroo. 1 Corinthians 8:6 exposed your lies. ALL THINGS are from the Father THROUGH Jesus. WE ALL LIVE by the Father THROUGH Jesus.... Without Jesus no life will exist outside God. Same being , what's the being ?@bold is what your deluded mind has been trying to spew since but I didn't allow it, now you have finally spew the thrash. Only a lying liar mouth will say "ALL THINGS" in both context have two different margins. No wonder your demonic organization has to fraudulently inserted the word "OTHER" into that Colossians 1. If it has two different margins why didn't your demonic organization leave the text as it is in Original Greek? But you what, the lies won't be supported without that. Jesus exist in Spirit form before coming to earth, That make them TWO different Spirit BEING (S)Stop this your ignorance in cyberspace, you're disgracing yourself. HUMAN BEING means the whole of people living on earth male and female. human being Pronunciation /ˌhjuːmən ˈbiːɪŋ/ Translate human being into Spanish NOUN A man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance. https://www.lexico.com/definition/human_being Go school you know gree. ALL THINGS came from Father and the Son means they are the same BEING. I'm still waiting for you to provide where I said "they are the same PERSON" Lying liar. Ridiculous . Under no circumstances should a creator be called brothers of what he created. I gave you strong proof tht Jesus own Nothing.Says the deluded who couldn't find Phil 2:7 in his polluted version of the Bible. Jesus is a Son before coming to earth , We are also sons ... We are all brothers from the same Father. Sons are created beingsJesus became our brothers when HE TOOK ON THE NATURE OF ADAM Trinity is from everlasting to everlasting. [s]What comes from two different persons is a Child to both of them, Why is no one reffered to as Son of Jesus ?? Why ONLY THE Father is spoken of as having Sons ?[/s]Jesus shall see His SEED Who are these seeds? I repeat Jesus own nothing, if he does, The angels would have been called sons of Jesus . Humans would have been called his sons too .But EVERYTHING (ALL THINGS) the Father has belongs to Jesus. See what lying mouth is causing you. All things means the same thing for both, Yet Jesus belong to the Father and live for him ?Phil 2:7 will cure your delusion on that, for NOW ALL THINGS means just one thing EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS FROM CREATION TIME TILL NOW. ( I know you can't defend your Jesus is human in heaven dogma anymore , its more like a robot approach now. Keep it up )Still looking for a way to derail this thread. Take it again, Jesus is human in heaven! You can find the nearest wall to hit your head. |
Barristter07:See ignorance speaking with bold face. Your stupidity is legendary. When we read that Jesus CEV: "Instead he(Jesus) gave up everything and became a slave, when he became like one of us." You're still denying the scripture where it is boldly written that Jesus is: 1. The source of life 2. Source of Creation 3. Source of Salvation 4. Source of Faith. Lying liar like your father the devil |
Barristter07:Here is my point again: Coming from a deluded JWs who believes that Jehovah is all-knowing but can selectively use that attribute. Which means Jehovah can choose to know something and also choose not to know. We can as well say Jehovah is lying. But see them foaming in their lying mouth about Jesus! Hypocrite! |
Barristter07:Where did Jesus say only ONE PERSON know? To your deluded mind Jesus lied but the question still remains: Then how can The Holy Spirit who SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God won't know the day? |
Barristter07:Coming from a deluded JWs who believes that Jehovah is all-knowing but can selectively use that attribute. Which means Jehovah can choose to know something and also choose not to know. We can as well say Jehovah is lying. But see them foaming in their lying mouth about Jesus! Hypocrite! |
Barristter07:Here is the verse: yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. The Father -- From whom ALL THINGS came and for WHOM we live The Son -- Through whom ALL THINGS came and through WHOM we live. You can see how the blessed apostle put your lying mouth in the coven of your father the devil. The same ALL THINGS, the same WHOM we LIVE. This proves beyond reasonable doubt that both are of the same BEING. A being is a person .After I even gave you a definition from a reliable dictionary you can still repeat this thrash. The Father and the Son are of the same BEING. I still demand how they have same nature/essence if one is human nature and the other is not.Was Jesus existed as HUMAN before He came to earth? That's why I'll keep saying that the day you will be able to differentiate between when scripture is talking about preincarnation and postincarnation of Jesus Christ is the day your delusion will be cured. But the Child and his biological Father /mother are not brothers , are they?He took on the nature of the son of Adam before He was called our brother, not before His incarnation. Get that into your empty skull. The Child ought to be the son of his mother and Father . But nobody is Jesus son. You well at all?I know you lack simple comprehension. The analogy here is to show you that ONE THING can come from TWO DIFFERENT PERSONS. So when you substitute "ONE" with "ALL" then it means ALL THINGS can come from two different persons as against your lies by giving ALL THINGS two different meanings. Thankfully u have no objection.Says the deluded JWs! Jesus is Human in heaven....you can hit your head on the wall. |
Barristter07:If you're intelligent and not deluded the right question would've been: At what point was he granted life? If Jesus is the LIFE ITSELF If Jesus is the source of life Then you should know He wasn't granted life in His preincarnation. Only a deluded person will think LIFE Itself can still be granted life. So your lying mouth has been shut for saying Jesus is not a SOURCE OF ANYTHING. This statement can only come from the enemy of Christ. |
Barristter07:You couldn't counter that part, yet you said you're expecting. So what are you expecting ![]() Jesus didn't lie, rather it's you the lying liar like your father the devil that knows how to lie perfectly. Here is the question again: Then how can The Holy Spirit who SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God won't know the day? |
Barristter07:Here we go! The day you will be able to differentiate between when scripture is talking about preincarnation and postincarnation of Jesus Christ is the day your delusion will be cured. Jesus is LIFE, how can LIFE be granted LIFE is the question? |
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