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Jozzy4:
Lemme see Emusan and livingchrist preach that Jesus is human rubbish again.

We've been preaching it and continue to preach till Jesus cast you and your father the lying liar into that everlasting fire.

Jesus is a glorified human setting example for all His saints to be resurrected in the likeness of His resurrection. Says the Holy scripture!

Barristter07:
Except the Father. The Father is now many persons ?
Making two persons that know ?

The lying liar like your father the Devil
Where does it say ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS?
Lying liar JWs!
Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and knows the very MIND of God.
Which means the Holy Spirit knows the hour and day!

Barristter07:

An owner that still needed to be given Children.
Trinity is a disorder.

So which means ALL THINGS were not created for the Son.
Brainwashed JWs!

Barristter07:
A scripture that shows mankind is not in Jesus image. Debunking your lie. This is why you can't explain what it's saying without ruining yourself. Mankind and Jesus himself exist in the image of Someone else.

But scripture says "let US create mankind in OUR image!"

Only a deluded and lying liar JWs will not see Jesus IN that US & OUR.

Barristter07:
Father is ONLY ONE person. Oya deny , make you enter Yawa

The question still remains:
Where does it say ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS?
Lying liar JWs!
Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and knows the very MIND of God.
Which means the Holy Spirit knows the hour and day!

Barristter07:
Won ti get Bobo Yi

Says the lying liar JWs who first claimed Jesus has no image of His own but later shot himself on the leg by presenting a scripture where Jesus said to have image.

Barristter07:
How many person is meant by ONLY the Father ?

The question for you since is:

Where does it say ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS?

Lying liar JWs!

Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and knows the very MIND of God.
Which means the Holy Spirit

Barristter07:
Address that Romans 8:29 now, why u dey fear ?

Romans 8:29

" Because those whom ( limited ) he gave his first recognition he also foredained to be (future) patterned after the image of his son, so that he might be FIRSTBORN among many brothers , moreover those whom he foredained are the ones he called;and the ones he called are the ones he also declared righteous . Finally those whom he declared righteous are the ones he also glorified "

So all mankind is Righteous ?? All mankind is " those whom" ??

Is this what you are reduced to ?

Hear the oponu speaking ignorantly.

Gen says "let US create man in OUR image!

The US & OUR(plural) in that verse have that singular IMAGE.

The funny thing is that your deluded mind believes that Jesus is the one God was talking to in that verse.

Barristter07:
Show me where Jesus said he have has children ?

Oponu, no wonder you can't construct simple tenses.

All things whatsoever the Father hath are mine:

What the Father has are mine, AND MINE are thine!

The scripture also said, ALL THINGS was created for Him (Jesus)

Only a lying liar like his father the Devil will see these and still claim Jesus has no children.

Barristter07:
Romans 8:29

" Because those whom ( limited ) he gave his first recognition he also foredained to be (future) patterned after the image of his son, so that he might be FIRSTBORN among many brothers , moreover those whom he foredained are the ones he called;and the ones he called are the ones he also declared righteous . Finally those whom he declared righteous are the ones he also glorified "

So all mankind is Righteous ?? All mankind is " those whom" ??

Is this what you are reduced to ?

Hear the oponu speaking ignorantly.

Gen says "let US create man in OUR image!

The US & OUR(plural) in that verse have that singular IMAGE.

The funny thing is that your deluded mind believes that Jesus is the one God was talking to in that verse.

Barristter07:
Matt 24:36 ONLY THE FATHER

The Father is how many persons ?

Where does it say ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS?

Lying liar JWs!

Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and knows the very MIND of God.

Which means the Holy Spirit knows the very Hour and day, true or false?

Is this what you are reduced to ? Power of the truth.

For your information, the word " NO ONE and NOBODY " means NO PERSON. - Oxford Dictionary

See the idiotic quoting dictionary and when the same dictionary is provided, he will still be twisting it or act blind to it.

Barristter07:
All mankind ? Mumu

Jesus Image is still the image of the invisible God , the image all humans bear .

You should be ashamed, the same all things for the Father is the same all things for the son, BUT NONE OF MANKIND has the image of Jesus . Until a time the Father permits for a few to do so. ..

Genesis said let's make Mankind in our imge , but is Jesus image for all mankind ? Romans prove your Genesis theory wrong

Hear the oponu speaking ignorantly.

Gen says "let US create man in OUR image!

The US & OUR(plural) in that verse have that singular IMAGE.

The funny thing is that your deluded mind believes that Jesus is the one God was talking to in that verse.

Jesus is the very IMAGE OF GOD which means Jesus image is the one mankind was created after.

Barristter07:
E pass your level. Your postulation is a lie. Thanks

U no well o

Fact, human spirit is a person!

I told you holy spirit is not a person , so Jesus isn't lying. If I said Holy spirit is a person and two persons know, then That's when I made the scripture to be a lie.

Where did Jesus say ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS?

This is the second time I'll ask this question.

Just tell us that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

because ANOTHER THING KNOWS, whether it's a person or not, something else knows apart from the Father which will make Jesus a liar too.

Barristter07:
The same place that Emphasis his bearing the image of someone else, also says he is the firstborn of CREATION . Ogbeni.

Image of = God

Firstborn of = his creation.

When God Born, he created .

Let US create man in OUR image

Jesus has an IMAGE, which exposed your lying mouth that no one was created in the image of Jesus.

And the same Romans 8:29 you quoted proves that you're a liar as Jesus has an IMAGE of HIS OWN.

Barristter07:
[s]I go torment your life with that Scripture : Was Jesus in heaven the day he died ? Luke 23:46[/s]

The spirit of man is a person!

And that means two persons know ba ?

Just tell first that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

Barristter07:
Did Paul mention creation?

U just prove the point , Alll things doesn't mean total

No! But ALL THINGS under salvation which is from creation.

ALL THING means TOTAL!

And the Begotten Jesus belong to whom ? Soro soke.

To himself if we go by your interpretation.

Jesus doesnt belong to himself , liar

But Jesus is part of ALL THINGS that belongs to the Father according you oponu....

Then Jesus must belong to Himself because ALL THINGS the Father has BELONGS to Jesus.

Barristter07:
[s]I ask two persons know ba ? U no reply , e be like holy spirit is no longer a person[/s]

Make your post one on one subject matter!

Barristter07:
[s]Verify the lie above.
Luke 23:46 - Was Jesus in heaven that day ?[/s]

Spirit of man which is not a person is even said to search man's thought,

The spirit of man is a person!

so what's special here? I have no issues with the verse , it doesn't contradict Jesus cos holy spirit is not a person.

If it's a PERSON, ALAYE ... You just made Jesus a Liar

Just tell first that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

Then you'll know what is special here!

Barristter07:
I guess Paul is an illiterate

" For God has put everything under his feet. Now when it says "everything" is put under him, it is obvious that he who puts everything under him is the exception. " 1Cor 15:27

There is an exception to all things. Learn .

Was the Father part of creation? No!

So ALL THINGS CREATED for both the Father and the Son.

So Creation belongs to Jesus.

It says so " KNOW ALL "

Emphasis on " ALL "

Yet doesn't mean they have all the knowledge in the universe.

Emphasis on ALL THINGS

The ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that are through the Son.

Not the same , Jesus belong to the Father but the Father doesn't belong to Jesus . Clear boundaries of the all things.

Jesus is part of the all things that came from the Father.

The Jesus is part of Himself because ALL THINGS that came from the Father are THROUGH Jesus.

Barristter07:
[s]Luke 23:46 , Was Jesus in heaven the day he died?[/s]

The spirit of man is a person.

Two persons know ba ?

Until you deny this first that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

Barristter07:
If holy spirit is a person, the Verse above contradicted Jesus and make him a liar.

It didn't contradict it rather contradicts your dull brain.

we know even the human spirit searches all the thoughts of man yet its not a person

" A person's spirit is the lamp of the LORD; it searches throughout one's innermost being. " Prov 20:27 ISV

Human spirit is a person this has been established even in the scripture.

wahala for no know bible

Wahala for the educated illiterate.

Mumu your evidence proves Jesus is a Liar provided holy spirit is a person. Deal with it.

Oponu....

You can't still deny that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

Barristter07:
Ogbeni Beru OLORUN ( Fear God ) na.

Do you fear God?

So Jesus is wrong for using NOBODY then , when you speak of people you are familiar with alone , you don't say Nobody . NOBODY means no person. So in short you mean Jesus is still lying

It's no longer ONLY but now NOBODY!

keep lying for your demonic organization.

And the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

Barristter07:
You are hooked .

And you're hanged

My translation is not wrong, the translation just admitted that All things does not mean total. So th word knowledge was used.

Only an educated illiterate will say "ALL THINGS does not mean TOTAL"

So both KJV and your translation are correct!

Hypocrite!

In the Greek text, Does 1John 2:20 not say KNOW ALL?

Come and tell me if those Disciples know everything . Then let's see if your same all things yarn go sell

It didn't say so....

The fact is, the same ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that come through Jesus.

Barristter07:
"OF " means belong to another.

Jesus is the VERY IMAGE.

Wrong , If it comes same time both would have been PARENTS.

ONE THING comes from man and woman at the same time.

ALL THINGS are through both the Father and the Son.

Jesus is OUR brother , A Son like everyone else.

Already answered.

"FIRSTBORN among many brothers " Romans 8:29

And I can't see FIRSTCREATED in that verse.

Image ( singular) bravo!! Good point , because the same Image still Belong to ONE PERSON , the Father , whose image Jesus exist. So Adam existed in the Image of God (The Father ) . That's why he is called Son of God not Son of Jesus.
If Jesus has a separate Image it would have been, make man in OUR IMAGES.

No man was created in Jesus image

Keep exposing your ignorance.

The text is "Let US create man in OUR image" which means the IMAGE belongs to the US & OUR.

Oponu radarada....

Still waiting for your lying mouth to provide where it is stated that Jesus was MADE I the image of God.

Romans 9:8

" BECAUSE Those whom he ( the Father ) gave his first recognition he also foredained TO be PATTERNED after the image of his Son, so that he might be FIRSTBORN among many brothers "

Notice that ONLY some few were chosen TO BE ( future) patterned after the image of His son, NOT ALL MANKIND. Which means Mankind didn't exist in Jesus image , [s]but even the image of Jesus still belong to the Father.[/s] In fact this can only happen because of the Father once again.

But your lying mouth first claimed that Jesus doesn't have image of his own but ONLY EXIST in God's Image.

Now the text says "...after the IMAGE of His Son"

Jesus is the VERY IMAGE

Jesus is a property of God like every other person created.

Jesus is your creator because He created ALL THINGS.

They are not the same person. [s]So let's know what came through the Father![/s]

Then who says they are the same person?

ALL THINGS came through the Father, true or false?

Neither does same nature means Same all things, if true, it means All things come through everyone with God's nature including the humans promised the nature.

Jesus and His Father are of the same nature.

Barristter07:
Of the invisible God [the Father ] , belong to his Creator.

THE VERY IMAGE...

The man and woman automatically own the child, But Jesus doesn't own anyone , neither is anyone is son or his image, yet you still using this analogy that exposed you ?

The fact is Man and Woman produce ONE THING. Which means ALL THING can come from the Father and Through the Son at the same time.

Oponu....no one was Jesus image yet Genesis says "Let Us create man in OUR(plural) IMAGE(singular)"

Which means Man was created in the IMAGE of Jesus too.

Not from whom all things came . Good

The All things doesn't apply to what came through the Father. They are different persons , what is the all things that came through the Father ? (All the while you are using a same person fallacy, cos same nature has been debunked since humans have that promise to share that very same nature yet doesn't make all things came through them, you are automatically bestowing what came through them as the same on the basis of nature. But your foolery was caught )

The ALL THINGS that came through the Father is the same ALL THINGS that are THROUGH the Son.

The Father and the Son are of the same being....

Barristter07:
@Bold , Wahala for who no know bible

Colosians 1:15 " The Image OF the invisible God [the Father ] , the firstborn of all creation"

[s]" OF " means belonging to . Whose image you belong indicates your maker , Just as Man in God's image make them SONS of the Most High. Just as Seth in Adams image make Adam his Father , Jesus is God's created property. He belongs to him.[/s]

Jesus is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

Let US create man in OUR (PLURAL) IMAGE(singular)

You're still lying as you can't provide the scripture where it was stated that Jesus EXIST/WAS MADE in the image of God.

Until then all your Mumbo jumbo will be strike.

Barristter07:
1John 2:20 said Know ALL . Translators realize this Couldn't mean they know everything. That's my point, all things doesn't mean total. all things in the context of the Father and son are different, One person came through and Belong to the other, the other doesn't.

Hypocrite!

So your translation is wrong for saying "...and ALL of you have knowledge"

The ALL THINGS that are from the came is the same ALL THINGS that are THROUGH the Son.

Barristter07:
Image means he is produced.

See the idiot jumping from pillar to post.

It's no longer Seth.

But you're using Seth analogy, so it doesn't favor you and you have to switch gear again. Ode....

Then the Father is also produced.

Let create man in OUR IMAGE.

Adam was in God's image, doesn't mean intercourse but creation.

The point is existing in another's image shows that person is your creator.

Clown!

Not Seth again now jumping to Adam.

Jesus didn't exist in anybody image Rather HE IS THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

Pulling out more lies to cover up lies.

I'm still waiting for where it is stated that Jesus was MADE in the image of God.

The are not same being , Not same person

They are different being, and for Jesus he is a REPRESENTATION of the Fathers being. A representation

So it's clear they are not the same, We need to know what came through the Father tht didn't come through Jesus.

Coin another word to continue to pull more watchtower lies.

They are the same BEING.

You look up the sky you say you see sun.

Meanwhile, you can't see the gases burning what you see is just the flame of the burning gases which you still call sun.

You even refer to the Heat which you feel from the burning gases as Sun.

The Father = Gases (you can't see with your naked eyes.
The Son = Burning Flame

The Holy Spirit = The Heat

Yet all these three coexist at one but you still refer to each separate as SUN.

ALL THINGS come through the Father and ALL THINGS come through the Son says the Holy scripture.

ALL THINGS (the power of the gases) come from the Father and the same ALL THINGS (power of the gases in flame) come through the Son.

It was a lying liar mouth like you who try to inject two different meanings into that.

Barristter07:
Jesus is a creature, existing in his Creators image. He is not the source of creation. But the beginning of it.

Jesus is the very IMAGE of God

Lying liar I'm still waiting for you to provide where it is written that Jesus was MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.

N9 how you people won't lie just to keep living in your delusions.

Jesus is the source of creation and the Creator.

All things doesn't come through them at the same time, You this dubious man, Because when the Father made his son Jesus, Jesus doesn't exist . He did through his own agency.

But ALL THINGS that come from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that come through the son.

Yet Jesus is from everlasting which is a place of eternity. Ode...

They would have been twins , not Father and son. U lie too much

See oponu radarada!

Does a man and a woman become twins before they can come together to produce ONE THING?

Thank God it didn't say from whom all things came. We know the Father is the source of all things.

BUT it says THROUGH WHOM ALL THINGS came.

So the ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that came THROUGH the Son.

Barristter07:
Owner need Nobody to Grant him authority. Jesus have no sons either right from before he came to earth.

Yet again, Phil 2:7 is there to cure your delusion.

Before Jesus came to earth, He's within the being of God.

When I said All things have context, your deluded head can't phantom it. Anyway here is 1John 2:20 to assist you

"But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things." King James 2000

Does this mean this Christian's know everything including the day and hour ?

See this oponu radarada...

Why King James 2000 and not your demonic translation?

Hypocrite!

He knows his lie will be exposed

And you have an anointing from the holy one, and all of you have knowledge. 1 John 2:20

Don't be ashamed to use your lying translation.

[qupte]All things in the context of Father and Son is totally different ... Son Belong to the all things for the Father . Make peace with it.[/quote]Still lying!

In that context, ALL THINGS from the Father is the same ALL THINGS through the son.

Barristter07:
" When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth." Genesis 5:3

Jesus exiting in the image of God is the reason he is a Son. It means God the Father produce him just as Adam produce Seth.

So Jesus was produced through intercourse because the last time I checked, Seth was a product of intercourse, so how can they be produced in the same way?

You're still lying but continue.

Jesus didn't exist in the IMAGE OF GOD but the VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

Matthew 11:27 All things have been HANDED OVER to me BY MY FATHER .

Owner doesn't need anyones authority .

Phil 2:7 is there to cure your delusion on that.

Human being means a man.

Human BeingS mean people .

Human being means ALL THE PEOPLE LIVING ON EARTH.

Tht means all things came through human partakers of God's nature too ?

Show us where it was stated.

Jesus and His Father are the same Being that's why ALL THINGS can be said to be THROUGH THEM.

Barristter07:
An agent. Good ... Not source

Then the Father is also and agent since ALL THINGS are through Him too.

Jesus is the source of creation.

If they are different persons, what came through the person of the Father ?

ALL THINGS and the same ALL THINGS are through the son.

" And because of his glory and excellence, he has given us great and precious promises. These are the promises that enable you to share his [God's] divine nature " 2Pet 1:4

Now tell me , does this mean this one's are source of all things too ?

Does it mean the persons here are not part of the all things that belong to the Father in terms of been his creation ?

So Jesus having same nature doesn't change the Fact he is a property of the Father , Created in his image . His Firstborn son.

The Father and the Son have the same nature which makes ALL THINGS come THROUGH them at the same time.

Same nature doesn't mean same source.

They are both SOURCE of creation.

1 Corinthians 8:6 said it all . One God, the Father , from whom all things came.

And One Lord through whom are ALL THINGS

To twist this is what you've been looking for and you won't get it.