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Barristter07:
Father is a person

Holy spirit another person

If both persons knows , Jesus saying ONLY the Father ( a single person ) knows means He lied ? I want an honest answer .

See this deluded one!

You want me to answer your question without answering mine!

The question you're still dodging is:

Then how can The Holy Spirit who SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God won't know the day?

Barristter07:
But Jesus Himself Came through the Father and belong to the Father , Live for the Father .. Make peace with it ( Romans 11:35,36)

Just as you came through Jesus and belong to Jesus, live through Jesus.

Even 1 Corinthians 3:23 you cited earlier exposed your lying mouth that JESUS OWNS NOTHING, when that verse clearly says "You BELONG to Christ"

I know, you don't BELONG to Christ because you're the child of your father the devil.

almost all translations use other for emphasis. Mumu

Ode....provide your ALMOST here.

If it doesn't have different context, Jesus won't have been part of all things that belong to the Father.

Jesus was not part of ALL THINGS....oponu!

ALL THINGS is ALL THINGS.

The ALL THINGS that came from the Father, is the same ALL THINGS that come THROUGH the Son.

Open your eyes na...


A man

A woman

A child

Singular person. " A"

Human being is a single person , Olodo Oshi


Human beings are many persons

One being means one person

Two beings mean two persons

Olodo buruku[/quoted]

Stop showcasing your ignorance on internet.

EVERYONE ON EARTH are called HUMAN BEING

[quote]So Father and Son are Same being or beings?

They are the same BEING

That means he was a Son prior to coming on Earth , Sons are brothers . Mumu

Jesus is our brother before coming to earth .

"So now Jesus and the ones he makes holy have the same Father. That is why Jesus is not ashamed to call them his brothers and sisters. " Hebrew 2:11

You this stupid liar , he was our brother because we all have the same Father. He is also a Created son like us.

You this stupid, idiotic brainwashed person.

If you have taken your time to read that text instead of using watchtower nonsense, you'd have seen the reason Jesus was called our brother.

But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels FOR A LITTLE WHILE, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. 10 In bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through what he suffered. 11 Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. SO JESUS IS NOT ASHAMED TO CALL THEM BROTHERS and SISTERS...14 Since the children have flesh and blood, he too SHARED in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil— 15 and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death. 16 For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham’s descendants. Heb 2-16 NIV

Pints from that text:
1. Jesus was made LITTLE LOWER for a WHILE
2. To bring MANY sons and daughters to glory
3. Both He (Jesus) who makes people Holy and the PEOPLE WHO ARE MADE Holy have the same Father
4. Jesus SHARED in humanity
5. He didn't come to help ANGELS (which means angels are not part of this arrangement) but the Abraham descendants.

A good Bible student will know Jesus was called our brother because He became like US.

Your last line is robotic , am not engaging you on that. If you have the skill, go back to that thread and defend your Jesus is human theory.

Jesus is human in heaven now....

Keep ranting about that.

The bold reveal who is the owner of All things, Jesus himself belong to him .

But your lies of Jesus didn't OWN anything has been exposed as PEOPLE BELONG TO JESUS.

In fact Jesus Himself said in Mark 9:41 CEV: "And anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name, just because you belong to me, will surely be rewarded."

And the same ALL THINGS belongs to Jesus.

Barristter07:
You are sounding more stupid, this is another prove he isn't the source of life . Source of life should not die under any circumstances. Source of life died and was raised by Another person , are you sure you are okay upstairs ?

See shallow reasoning!

Oponu...

But Jesus is source of life according to the scripture.

The scriptures is clear , we have One God, the Father ... From whom all things came. The only source of all things , All things even Jesus came from him, this is why he is his son .

Just as the scripture is clear that Jesus is the source of life and shut up your lying mouth forever that Jesus isn't a SOURCE OF ANYTHING.

ALL THINGS CAME THROUGH Jesus which mill make Jesus come from Himself.

Barristter07:
Jehovah didn't say " ONLY so so know " did he ?

Face the beat Man: If Jesus knows, then he lied The son doesn't know but only the Father , yes ?

Still ranting!

Here is my point again:

Coming from a deluded JWs who believes that Jehovah is all-knowing but can selectively use that attribute.

Which means Jehovah can choose to know something and also choose not to know.

We can as well say Jehovah is lying.

But see them foaming in their lying mouth about Jesus!

Hypocrite!

Barristter07:
Y'all are just getting silly more and more

Only the Father knows means ONLY one person knows. How many persons are the Father ? Are you okay at all with that question at bold?

In essence you just pulled that out from your deluded brain.

If holy spirit another separate person also know, that makes two persons and Jesus a liar .... Agree ?

The question you're still dodging is:

Then how can The Holy Spirit who SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God won't know the day?

livingchrist:
He is fooling himself, according to watch tower Jehovah can choose to know something's and choose not to know, so can we also say a part of Jehovah knows and a part does not know?
They think we dont know their satanic deep secret

That's why I do use the word "Hypocrite" for them.

It perfectly describes them.

Barristter07:
For whom we live, is Jesus included ?

" I live because of the Father, " John 6:57

Not only Does Jesus come from the Father , Through the Father , he also LIVE for the Father . Cover your eyes in shame

Keep jumping like kangaroo.

1 Corinthians 8:6 exposed your lies.

ALL THINGS are from the Father THROUGH Jesus.
WE ALL LIVE by the Father THROUGH Jesus....

Without Jesus no life will exist outside God.

Same being , what's the being ?

Same Human being ?

They are not same being. Totally different persons , so it's important for you to realize All things in both context have different margins.

Being means one person

Beings mean two persons .

Don't you hear English ?

@bold is what your deluded mind has been trying to spew since but I didn't allow it, now you have finally spew the thrash.

Only a lying liar mouth will say "ALL THINGS" in both context have two different margins. No wonder your demonic organization has to fraudulently inserted the word "OTHER" into that Colossians 1.

If it has two different margins why didn't your demonic organization leave the text as it is in Original Greek? But you what, the lies won't be supported without that.

Jesus exist in Spirit form before coming to earth, That make them TWO different Spirit BEING (S)

A being is a single person, Beings is more than one.

CALM DOWN and learn, it's silly to say both are the same being (person)

Since they are different persons, what came through the Father?

Stop this your ignorance in cyberspace, you're disgracing yourself.

HUMAN BEING means the whole of people living on earth male and female.

human being

Pronunciation /ˌhjuːmən ˈbiːɪŋ/ 

Translate human being into Spanish

NOUN

A man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.

https://www.lexico.com/definition/human_being

Go school you know gree.

ALL THINGS came from Father and the Son means they are the same BEING.

I'm still waiting for you to provide where I said "they are the same PERSON"

Lying liar.

Ridiculous . Under no circumstances should a creator be called brothers of what he created. I gave you strong proof tht Jesus own Nothing.

Says the deluded who couldn't find Phil 2:7 in his polluted version of the Bible.

Jesus is a Son before coming to earth , We are also sons ... We are all brothers from the same Father. Sons are created beings

Or Jesus is not a son before coming to earth, let me know if Trinity doesn't exist until he came to earth ? Mumu guy

Jesus became our brothers when HE TOOK ON THE NATURE OF ADAM

Trinity is from everlasting to everlasting.

[s]What comes from two different persons is a Child to both of them, Why is no one reffered to as Son of Jesus ?? Why ONLY THE Father is spoken of as having Sons ?[/s]

Jesus shall see His SEED

Who are these seeds?

I repeat Jesus own nothing, if he does, The angels would have been called sons of Jesus . Humans would have been called his sons too .

But EVERYTHING (ALL THINGS) the Father has belongs to Jesus.

See what lying mouth is causing you.

All things means the same thing for both, Yet Jesus belong to the Father and live for him ?

Phil 2:7 will cure your delusion on that, for NOW ALL THINGS means just one thing EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS FROM CREATION TIME TILL NOW.

( I know you can't defend your Jesus is human in heaven dogma anymore , its more like a robot approach now. Keep it up )

Still looking for a way to derail this thread.

Take it again, Jesus is human in heaven! You can find the nearest wall to hit your head.

Barristter07:
Stupidity . Under no circumstances should source of life be granted life. You are exposed.

See ignorance speaking with bold face.

Your stupidity is legendary.

When we read that Jesus

CEV: "Instead he(Jesus) gave up everything and became a slave, when he became like one of us."

You're still denying the scripture where it is boldly written that Jesus is:

1. The source of life
2. Source of Creation
3. Source of Salvation
4. Source of Faith.

Lying liar like your father the devil

Barristter07:
wahala for who dey lie o

How can someone say ONLY the Father know when a part of him knows ? Isn't that a LIE. Answer me

Here is my point again:

Coming from a deluded JWs who believes that Jehovah is all-knowing but can selectively use that attribute.

Which means Jehovah can choose to know something and also choose not to know.

We can as well say Jehovah is lying.

But see them foaming in their lying mouth about Jesus!

Hypocrite!

Barristter07:
Counter wetin.. if only you know the soup you find yourself with that quote.

Perfect counter : SINCE HOLY SPIRIT A PERSON KNOWS, IT MEANS THERE ARE TWO PERSONS THAT KNOW AND JESUS LIED ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS ?

Where did Jesus say only ONE PERSON know?

To your deluded mind Jesus lied but the question still remains:

Then how can The Holy Spirit who SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God won't know the day?

Barristter07:
So in short a part of Jesus knows the day and hour BUT he choose to lie that only the Father knows ?

Coming from a deluded JWs who believes that Jehovah is all-knowing but can selectively use that attribute.

Which means Jehovah can choose to know something and also choose not to know.

We can as well say Jehovah is lying.

But see them foaming in their lying mouth about Jesus!

Hypocrite!

Barristter07:
Jesus mde it clear whatever he has was GIVEN him.

Here is the Source of all things

" yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came "

If something came from Jesus , it means 1Corinthians 8:6 lied

Here is the verse:

yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

The Father -- From whom ALL THINGS came and for WHOM we live

The Son -- Through whom ALL THINGS came and through WHOM we live.

You can see how the blessed apostle put your lying mouth in the coven of your father the devil.

The same ALL THINGS, the same WHOM we LIVE.

This proves beyond reasonable doubt that both are of the same BEING.

A being is a person .

Two persons are two beings.

Comprehend ?

After I even gave you a definition from a reliable dictionary you can still repeat this thrash.

The Father and the Son are of the same BEING.

I still demand how they have same nature/essence if one is human nature and the other is not.

Was Jesus existed as HUMAN before He came to earth?

That's why I'll keep saying that the day you will be able to differentiate between when scripture is talking about preincarnation and postincarnation of Jesus Christ is the day your delusion will be cured.

But the Child and his biological Father /mother are not brothers , are they?

He took on the nature of the son of Adam before He was called our brother, not before His incarnation.

Get that into your empty skull.

The Child ought to be the son of his mother and Father . But nobody is Jesus son. You well at all?

I know you lack simple comprehension.

The analogy here is to show you that ONE THING can come from TWO DIFFERENT PERSONS.

So when you substitute "ONE" with "ALL" then it means ALL THINGS can come from two different persons as against your lies by giving ALL THINGS two different meanings.

Thankfully u have no objection.

Says the deluded JWs!

Jesus is Human in heaven....you can hit your head on the wall.

Barristter07:
Was Jesus lying he was granted life ?

If you're intelligent and not deluded the right question would've been:

At what point was he granted life?

If Jesus is the LIFE ITSELF
If Jesus is the source of life

Then you should know He wasn't granted life in His preincarnation. Only a deluded person will think LIFE Itself can still be granted life.

So your lying mouth has been shut for saying Jesus is not a SOURCE OF ANYTHING.

This statement can only come from the enemy of Christ.

Barristter07:
Interesting, I was expecting this all this while.

Let's do the Maths ...

Holy spirit a person different from the Father knows. In short, Jesus lied that ONLy the Father knows ?

You couldn't counter that part, yet you said you're expecting.

So what are you expecting

Jesus didn't lie, rather it's you the lying liar like your father the devil that knows how to lie perfectly.

Here is the question again:

Then how can The Holy Spirit who SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God won't know the day?

Barristter07:
E don hang

@ bold. John 5:26 please


" For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself.
"

Thank you for that Reply, Jesus . Keep exposing this Shameless liars

Here we go!

The day you will be able to differentiate between when scripture is talking about preincarnation and postincarnation of Jesus Christ is the day your delusion will be cured.

Jesus is LIFE, how can LIFE be granted LIFE is the question?

Barristter07:
Sorry, u failed ... Try again.

Was all things handed over to Jesus by someone ?

You can tear all these from your polluted version.

This put your lying mouth in shame for saying Jesus isn't a source of ANYTHING.

1. Jesus is the AUTHOR/SOURCE of Creation Rev 3:14

2. Jesus is the author/captain/prince/source of life Acts 3:15

3. Jesus is the author/captain/source/prince of salvation Heb 2:10

4. Jesus is the author/source/captain/ of Faith Heb 12:2

Essence , Did the Father have Human nature too ? Cos I don't get how they are of the same Nature/essence?

You See the reason why I do say: "The day you will be able to differentiate between when scripture is talking about preincarnation and postincarnation of Jesus Christ is the day your delusion will be cured."

So your deluded mind can phantom now that BEING isn't ONLY A PERSON

Which still leave us with, provide the place I said the Father and the Son are the same PERSON.

As far as they are different persons , You need to tell us what came through the Father !!! Or you mean scripture lied that the Father was agent too?

Scripture is very plain here

ALL THINGS CAME THROUGH THE FATHER AND THE SON.

This proves that They both Co-exist for ALL THINGS to came through both of them.

Just as A CHILD came THROUGH THE INTERCOURSE of MAN AND WOMAN.

1Corinthians 3:23 exposed you as a Liar . Everything ALL THINGS including Jesus came through the Father and For the Father.

And ALL THINGS came through Jesus and for Jesus.

You hiding under human nature na disguise debunk what I came up with Mumu,

Bloodless dead Jesus

Jesus can't see God's face as an human.

He is lower than the angels.

Says the deluded JWs!

Jesus is Human in heaven die with it.

Barristter07:
By claiming he is the source,

This put your lying mouth in shame for saying Jesus isn't a source of ANYTHING.

Imagine, I'm the one claiming now but the deluded JWs don't have these verses in his polluted Bible version.

1. Jesus is the AUTHOR/SOURCE of Creation Rev 3:14

2. Jesus is the author/captain/prince/source of life Acts 3:15

3. Jesus is the author/captain/source/prince of salvation Heb 2:10

4. Jesus is the author/source/captain/ of Faith Heb 12:2

so u made him a liar that he was granted life.

Just as you want to strip Him up His glory and lied against God by saying His is not a SOURCE of anything.

If he was granted, he can't be the source. Cover your eyes in shame

But Jesus is LIFE ITSELF.

So how can LIFE be granted life?

Cover your shameless face in ash.

Barristter07:
All things that belong to the Father included Jesus, but all things belonging to Jesus doesn't extend to such limit. To show you both of them are operating on different levels. Same apply to through him. Different persons , Jesus came through the Father , that's why he is our brother and NOBODY is his son .

keep give ALL THINGS different meanings, your lies are being exposed day by day.

No wonder you keep inventing different words just to continue in your delusions.

For now, ALL THINGS are from/through both the Father and the Son, which means they are of the same BEING.

Barristter07:
Source of life was granted LIFE ?

Hebrew 2:11 is very funny, Jesus is our brother.

Are you not ashamed ?

1 Cor 8:6 is there for you, the Father , source of ALL THINGS

Jesus reply: All things was handed to me by my Father .

This put your lying mouth in shame for saying Jesus isn't a source of ANYTHING.

1. Jesus is the AUTHOR/SOURCE of Creation Rev 3:14

2. Jesus is the author/captain/prince/source of life Acts 3:15

3. Jesus is the author/captain/source/prince of salvation Heb 2:10

4. Jesus is the author/source/captain/ of Faith Heb 12:2

Being means a Person .

Beings mean Many persons.

Olodo

When you add " Human " , it means that person is an human. It doesn't change the Fact that it's a person. Mind you , more than one human is " Human BeingS "

You said " Same being " , which means Same person. If you are referring to two persons, u say Two beings "

You are still trapped.

Yet the clown can't still provide where I said the Father and the Son are the same PERSON.

BEING ISN'T ONLY PERSON...ode!

Definition of being

 (Entry 1 of 4)

1a: the quality or state of having existencea social movement that came into being in the 1960sartistic form comes into being only when two elements are successfully fused— Carlos Lynes

b(1): something that is conceivable and hence capable of existing

(2): something that actually exists

(3): the totality of existing things

c: conscious existence : LIFE

2: the qualities that constitute an existent thing : ESSENCEI knew it was true in the core of my being.especially : PERSONALITY

3: a living things entient beings a mythical beingespecially : PERSON a very sexual being

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/being

1Corinthians 3:23 Jesus BELONG TO God.

So it's no longer Col 2:23, lying liar.

The day you will able to differentiate between when scripture is talking about preincarnation and postincarnation of Jesus Christ is the day your delusion will be cured.

The logic is " For him ( the Father ) " included Jesus , just as Through him included Jesus . This is why the Father is spoken of as All things are from him, through him and for him.

Shifting goal post here and there!

It's no longer, EVERYTHING ELSE!

Your lies and false accusations are already exposed no place for you to hide anymore like your father the devil.

Bloodless dead Jesus

Jesus can't even see God's Face

He is lower than the angels.

U no well .

After all your rant, this is what you can come up with.

Very deluded a person.

haddeylium:
The Holy Spirit is impersonal !
Its God's powerful force he use in accomplishing things.
Just like how an Artisans use tools to get their job done.
Imagine someone praising a hammer that a carpenter use in his craft.
Unreasonable right?

But it's reasonable to you that BLASPHEMY against the hammer is blasphemy against the carpenter. Clown everywhere!

NO!
That an Artisan uses a tool doesn't make that tool the Craftsman!
it's called God's holyspirit

So which one is true:

1. God acquires Holy Spirit as TOOL

2. Holy Spirit is part of creation which make it a creature

3. Holy Spirit is part of God and within the being of God.

It stated clearly!
'No one knows'
ONLY THE FATHER!

Then how can The Holy Spirit who SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God won't know the day?

Barristter07:
Now you know. He is not the source of anything. 1Cor 8:6

Lying liar JWs!

Provide where I denied that....false accuser like your father the Devil.

Says the lying liar JWs when scripture boldly says Jesus is the source of creation/life/salvation/faith.

haddeylium:
Jws take is that the holy spirit is God's power in action (Gen 1:2).
Blasphemy against his active force/power is blasphemy against him.

That's nice, so if blasphemy against a force which is God's power means blasphemy against God, then why worshipping the same FORCE is wrong?

It's not a person/entity

But it's God, right?

Help your friend, If he is, How come it doesn't know about the day or hour?

Where does it say Holy Spirit didn't know?

Barristter07:
The idiot even said Jesus is lying that he was granted life . He can't be granted life . Arguing with Jesus himself. The guy is very much deluded bro . Pray for him ...

The idiot and deluded lying liar JWs the son of his father the Devil wants can provide where I said Jesus was lying that he was granted life.

Your shameless lying mouth says Jesus is not a SOURCE of anything when scripture boldly says Jesus is the SOURCE of ALL THINGS.


Can your god answer prayer? When he is busy chasing the Christians all over the word.

Barristter07:
O ma se o
" For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. " John 5:26

Jesus is the source of Life and THAT ETERNAL LIFE

This put your lying mouth in shame for saying Jesus isn't a source of ANYTHING.

1. Jesus is the AUTHOR/SOURCE of Creation Rev 3:14

2. Jesus is the author/captain/prince/source of life Acts 3:15

3. Jesus is the author/captain/source/prince of salvation Heb 2:10

4. Jesus is the author/source/captain/ of Faith Heb 12:2

You stupidly said Father and son are the same person (being) . They are not same being, so you must tell us what came through the Father and not the son?

There are many persons within the BEING of human, no wonder you will continue to be Olodo oshi.

All things came from both the Father and the Son which means they are of the same BEING.

You're still lying simply because you can't provide where I said they are of the same PERSON.

Oponu...

" ALL THINGS " as defined for the Father is not the same with Jesus .

Says the lying liar JWs

Imagine, ALL THINGS now has two different meanings. This can only be for a lying liar.

When it says FOR HIM in reference to Jesus , this doesn't include the Father , neither himself.

ALL THINGS is ALL THINGS no two meanings to it but you can only do that because of your delusion.

No wonder you keep inserting the fraudulent word "OTHER/now ELSE" so that to change the meaning but God is wiser than you and your demonic organization that the original Greek isn't in your possession.

But when it says FOR him in reference to the Father , This Included Jesus himself ( Col 3:23

Liar provide the verse where it is stated that Jesus is included.

This is Col 3:23 CEV: "Do your work willingly, as though you were serving the Lord himself, and not just your earthly master."

ALL THINGS ARE FOR BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON.

after Jesus had went back to heaven, don't give me the crap of human in heaven, cos the last point that finish you on the other thread will resurface and you won't find it funny ),

See the ignorant one taking pleasure in his foolishness.

Jesus is Human in heaven....you can die now.

on this basis, everything ALL THINGS is for the Father.

ALL THINGS is for the Son.

The same applies to " THROUGH him" , what came through the agency of the Father is Jesus himself . On this basis everything ALL THINGS came through the Father as well.

ALL THINGS has no two meanings only a lying liar JWs like you will attach different meanings to it.

No wonder your demonic organization OPENLY TWISTED THAT VERSE by intentionally inserted a fraudulent word "OTHER" to it.

So ALL THINGS are THROUGH both the son and the Father.

Barristter07:
Coming from a shameless Liar who said Jesus belong to himself . @ bold

See this deluded liar the son of your father the devil

on the basis of the Fact that ALL Things are for the Father because Jesus through whom he created everything ALL THINGS belong to him. . exist through his very own agency . On that basis everything ALL THINGS else that come from Jesus can be rightly said as FOR the Father and through the Father.

I strike that word to show you how myopic and shameless liar you are.

ALL THINGS has no two different meanings Jesus must be His own creator going by your twisted tongue.

No wonder you keep inventing different words to twist the truth, just imagine ALL THINGS ELSE @red not ALL OTHER THINGS again.

The only way out here is to deny Jesus belong to the Father as the shameless Liar you are

Shameless idiotic, your delusion will be cured the day you will know when scripture was talking about preincarnation and postincarnation of Jesus Christ.

For now, ALL THINGS are from both the Father and the Son. NOT all things else as you shameless put above.

livingchrist:
John 21:17
He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

Just try to watch, you'll see how they'll try to inject "OTHER" in between that ALL THINGS.

I don't know how an educated person will see "ALL THINGS" and still believe the word is selective in nature.

That dubious subtraction can be found with only JWs just because everything must be twisted against Christ.

haddeylium:
"Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father."

If that's the case, cos' of it's new nature.
What about the HOLY SPIRIT?

Just like the case of blasphemy against ONLY THE HOLY SPIRIT will make the Father not to be God since the Father wasn't mentioned.

Besides, what is this double standard with you people?

When you don't even use the word Omniscient for God.

And the funny thing is that, the same people who believe God can selectively use His attribute of All-knowing will still argue Jesus can't decide to choose to know things.

Barristter07:
You are very incoherent, firstly: To whom was the verse reffering ?

I gave you proof it was reffering to Jehovah , if you want to know what JEHOVAH made through his agency, it is Jesus himself.

Take note that the verse also said all things were made for the Father. Why? Because Jesus whom he used as agent of other things, belong to the Father himself. The same logic applys to through him. Because Jesus himself came through him , automatically everything came through the Father.

Look at the two highlights and see the dubious and lying liar JWs in display.

You used Jesus as agency of OTHER THINGS when that word was never found in the scripture but going down at second highlight, you dubiously switch to automatically EVERYTHING, which according to Cambridge dictionary, EVERYTHING is still ALL THINGS.

Just like I said, no matter how your hatred for Jesus would be, it'll never change the truth of the scripture nor who Jesus Christ is.

ALL THINGS came through the Father and the Son and the same ALL THINGS are for the Father and the Son.

But you can't bear with the truth that's why you must insert the fraudulent word "OTHER".

Barristter07:
Let the scriptures reveal who is the son of the Devil and the liar.

" For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. " John 5:26

Jesus is not the source of even life, he was granted.

Only the Father is the source of all things.

The day you'll know difference when the scripture is talking about The Son before His incarnation and after His incarnation is the day, you'll be cured of your delusion totally.

Jesus is the Author/Source of life.

Jesus is the LIFE itself, so how can someone who is life be giving life?

So no matter how you hate the truth about Jesus Christ it won't stop what scripture reveals about Him and who He was...Your God the creator of ALL THINGS.

Cambridge Dictionary defines a Being as a Person.

I didn't even take note of this your dubious act that your demonic organization taught you.

Just as the way you intentionally left out some part in the scripture you quoted earlier.

Look at the idiot and see how he used hyphen to hide something from the same Cambridge Dictionary "Cambridge Dictionary: Being , a person ... that exists"

Shameless lying liar JWs.

You are actually very deluded @ bold.
They are different beings, So you need to tell us what came through the agency of the Father !

See the chronic deluded giving his name to someone else.

ALL THINGS came through the Father.
The same ALL THINGS came through the Son

Unfortunately, You lied again.

Let the scriptures expose you once more.

" and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God. " 1Cor 3:23

Since Jesus belong to God, when it says everything were made for the Father , it's because even Jesus belong to him ( which automatically means everything are for him ) . But when it says everything was made for Jesus, this is mainly for things made through Jesus.

Again, your delusion will be cured the day you know when scripture is talking about preincarnation and postincarnation of Jesus Christ.

EMPHASIS here is EVERYTHING

So you know more than God who revealed His own word. because this your dubious explanation would have been put forward straight by God.

But as scripture put your lying mouth into the coven of your father the devil, EVERYTHING was made for Father and the Son.

Likewise when it says everything was made through the Father , it's because Jesus himself was made by the Father's agency.

Then The Father was made through the agency of the son because EVERYTHING was made THROUGH THE SON.

Now, let me give you the same definition of EVERYTHING from your favorite Cambridge dictionary.

everything
pronoun
US  /ˈev·riˌθɪŋ/
all things:

Only a deluded and lying liar will still find something OUTSIDE the ALL THINGS.

Good morning .

Who asked you

Barristter07:
The Father is the source of ALL things.

You can relax now, who gave Jesus Life ?

You don't have sense o, someone is source yet was given

Reason I do say you're Olodo oshi!

Jesus is THE LIFE ITSELF, how can someone gave LIFE a life

And Jesus is the SOURCE OF LIFE, which put your lying mouth into coven of your father the Devil that Jesus is not SOURCE OF ANYTHING.

Lying liar JWs.

U still don't get it .
Romans 11:36 says all things are From the Father , through the Father and For the Father.

Let me illustrate with the " FOR HIM "

The same bible said all things were made through Jesus and for him.

Deluded person says I didn't get it when it's obvious that it's your deluded mind that didn't get it.

ALL THINGS came through both the Father and the Son, and ALL THINGS were created FOR TJE FATHER AND THE SON.

This proves that The Father and the Son are of the same being.

But there is a difference, it said everything were made for the Father because even Jesus himself belong to the Father.

AS EVERYTHING were made for the Son, which means Jesus belongs to Himself just as the Father belongs to Himself.

Olodo...

That help us realize why even the Father is spoken of as All things were made for the Father.

And the Son is spoken of as ALL THINGS were made FOR THE SON.

If ALL THINGS came through both the Father and the Son and ALL THINGS were made for both the Father and the Son, then it means, they are of the same being.

Now the same logic applies to " through him" , unless you mean Jesus belong to himself. If Jesus didn't belong to himself, then through the Father means Jesus himself came Through the agency of the Father !!!

ALL THINGS came through the Son and the Father means they are of the same Being.

If "through him" the Son means Jesus came through the Agency of the Father, then "through him the Father" means the Father also came through the agency of the Son.

Cambridge Dictionary: Being , a person ... that exists

So you finally nail yourself. That they are same persons. Father and son are same person, see your life

Oponu radarada!

Hear it from the deluded JWs!
"That they are same persons (plural)"
"Father and son are same person (singular)" In one breath of a statement.

And the idiot can't still produce where I said "the Father and the Son are the same persons"

lying liar JWs like your father the Devil!

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks Sir!

You're welcome sir!

MaxInDHouse:
Peace Mr Emusan, May you have Peace!

Peace Mr MaxInHouse, may you have Peace!