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Barristter07:
Sorry, u failed ... Try again.

Was all things handed over to Jesus by someone ?

You can tear all these from your polluted version.

This put your lying mouth in shame for saying Jesus isn't a source of ANYTHING.

1. Jesus is the AUTHOR/SOURCE of Creation Rev 3:14

2. Jesus is the author/captain/prince/source of life Acts 3:15

3. Jesus is the author/captain/source/prince of salvation Heb 2:10

4. Jesus is the author/source/captain/ of Faith Heb 12:2

Essence , Did the Father have Human nature too ? Cos I don't get how they are of the same Nature/essence?

You See the reason why I do say: "The day you will be able to differentiate between when scripture is talking about preincarnation and postincarnation of Jesus Christ is the day your delusion will be cured."

So your deluded mind can phantom now that BEING isn't ONLY A PERSON

Which still leave us with, provide the place I said the Father and the Son are the same PERSON.

As far as they are different persons , You need to tell us what came through the Father !!! Or you mean scripture lied that the Father was agent too?

Scripture is very plain here

ALL THINGS CAME THROUGH THE FATHER AND THE SON.

This proves that They both Co-exist for ALL THINGS to came through both of them.

Just as A CHILD came THROUGH THE INTERCOURSE of MAN AND WOMAN.

1Corinthians 3:23 exposed you as a Liar . Everything ALL THINGS including Jesus came through the Father and For the Father.

And ALL THINGS came through Jesus and for Jesus.

You hiding under human nature na disguise debunk what I came up with Mumu,

Bloodless dead Jesus

Jesus can't see God's face as an human.

He is lower than the angels.

Says the deluded JWs!

Jesus is Human in heaven die with it.

Barristter07:
By claiming he is the source,

This put your lying mouth in shame for saying Jesus isn't a source of ANYTHING.

Imagine, I'm the one claiming now but the deluded JWs don't have these verses in his polluted Bible version.

1. Jesus is the AUTHOR/SOURCE of Creation Rev 3:14

2. Jesus is the author/captain/prince/source of life Acts 3:15

3. Jesus is the author/captain/source/prince of salvation Heb 2:10

4. Jesus is the author/source/captain/ of Faith Heb 12:2

so u made him a liar that he was granted life.

Just as you want to strip Him up His glory and lied against God by saying His is not a SOURCE of anything.

If he was granted, he can't be the source. Cover your eyes in shame

But Jesus is LIFE ITSELF.

So how can LIFE be granted life?

Cover your shameless face in ash.

Barristter07:
All things that belong to the Father included Jesus, but all things belonging to Jesus doesn't extend to such limit. To show you both of them are operating on different levels. Same apply to through him. Different persons , Jesus came through the Father , that's why he is our brother and NOBODY is his son .

keep give ALL THINGS different meanings, your lies are being exposed day by day.

No wonder you keep inventing different words just to continue in your delusions.

For now, ALL THINGS are from/through both the Father and the Son, which means they are of the same BEING.

Barristter07:
Source of life was granted LIFE ?

Hebrew 2:11 is very funny, Jesus is our brother.

Are you not ashamed ?

1 Cor 8:6 is there for you, the Father , source of ALL THINGS

Jesus reply: All things was handed to me by my Father .

This put your lying mouth in shame for saying Jesus isn't a source of ANYTHING.

1. Jesus is the AUTHOR/SOURCE of Creation Rev 3:14

2. Jesus is the author/captain/prince/source of life Acts 3:15

3. Jesus is the author/captain/source/prince of salvation Heb 2:10

4. Jesus is the author/source/captain/ of Faith Heb 12:2

Being means a Person .

Beings mean Many persons.

Olodo

When you add " Human " , it means that person is an human. It doesn't change the Fact that it's a person. Mind you , more than one human is " Human BeingS "

You said " Same being " , which means Same person. If you are referring to two persons, u say Two beings "

You are still trapped.

Yet the clown can't still provide where I said the Father and the Son are the same PERSON.

BEING ISN'T ONLY PERSON...ode!

Definition of being

 (Entry 1 of 4)

1a: the quality or state of having existencea social movement that came into being in the 1960sartistic form comes into being only when two elements are successfully fused— Carlos Lynes

b(1): something that is conceivable and hence capable of existing

(2): something that actually exists

(3): the totality of existing things

c: conscious existence : LIFE

2: the qualities that constitute an existent thing : ESSENCEI knew it was true in the core of my being.especially : PERSONALITY

3: a living things entient beings a mythical beingespecially : PERSON a very sexual being

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/being

1Corinthians 3:23 Jesus BELONG TO God.

So it's no longer Col 2:23, lying liar.

The day you will able to differentiate between when scripture is talking about preincarnation and postincarnation of Jesus Christ is the day your delusion will be cured.

The logic is " For him ( the Father ) " included Jesus , just as Through him included Jesus . This is why the Father is spoken of as All things are from him, through him and for him.

Shifting goal post here and there!

It's no longer, EVERYTHING ELSE!

Your lies and false accusations are already exposed no place for you to hide anymore like your father the devil.

Bloodless dead Jesus

Jesus can't even see God's Face

He is lower than the angels.

U no well .

After all your rant, this is what you can come up with.

Very deluded a person.

haddeylium:
The Holy Spirit is impersonal !
Its God's powerful force he use in accomplishing things.
Just like how an Artisans use tools to get their job done.
Imagine someone praising a hammer that a carpenter use in his craft.
Unreasonable right?

But it's reasonable to you that BLASPHEMY against the hammer is blasphemy against the carpenter. Clown everywhere!

NO!
That an Artisan uses a tool doesn't make that tool the Craftsman!
it's called God's holyspirit

So which one is true:

1. God acquires Holy Spirit as TOOL

2. Holy Spirit is part of creation which make it a creature

3. Holy Spirit is part of God and within the being of God.

It stated clearly!
'No one knows'
ONLY THE FATHER!

Then how can The Holy Spirit who SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God won't know the day?

Barristter07:
Now you know. He is not the source of anything. 1Cor 8:6

Lying liar JWs!

Provide where I denied that....false accuser like your father the Devil.

Says the lying liar JWs when scripture boldly says Jesus is the source of creation/life/salvation/faith.

haddeylium:
Jws take is that the holy spirit is God's power in action (Gen 1:2).
Blasphemy against his active force/power is blasphemy against him.

That's nice, so if blasphemy against a force which is God's power means blasphemy against God, then why worshipping the same FORCE is wrong?

It's not a person/entity

But it's God, right?

Help your friend, If he is, How come it doesn't know about the day or hour?

Where does it say Holy Spirit didn't know?

Barristter07:
The idiot even said Jesus is lying that he was granted life . He can't be granted life . Arguing with Jesus himself. The guy is very much deluded bro . Pray for him ...

The idiot and deluded lying liar JWs the son of his father the Devil wants can provide where I said Jesus was lying that he was granted life.

Your shameless lying mouth says Jesus is not a SOURCE of anything when scripture boldly says Jesus is the SOURCE of ALL THINGS.


Can your god answer prayer? When he is busy chasing the Christians all over the word.

Barristter07:
O ma se o
" For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. " John 5:26

Jesus is the source of Life and THAT ETERNAL LIFE

This put your lying mouth in shame for saying Jesus isn't a source of ANYTHING.

1. Jesus is the AUTHOR/SOURCE of Creation Rev 3:14

2. Jesus is the author/captain/prince/source of life Acts 3:15

3. Jesus is the author/captain/source/prince of salvation Heb 2:10

4. Jesus is the author/source/captain/ of Faith Heb 12:2

You stupidly said Father and son are the same person (being) . They are not same being, so you must tell us what came through the Father and not the son?

There are many persons within the BEING of human, no wonder you will continue to be Olodo oshi.

All things came from both the Father and the Son which means they are of the same BEING.

You're still lying simply because you can't provide where I said they are of the same PERSON.

Oponu...

" ALL THINGS " as defined for the Father is not the same with Jesus .

Says the lying liar JWs

Imagine, ALL THINGS now has two different meanings. This can only be for a lying liar.

When it says FOR HIM in reference to Jesus , this doesn't include the Father , neither himself.

ALL THINGS is ALL THINGS no two meanings to it but you can only do that because of your delusion.

No wonder you keep inserting the fraudulent word "OTHER/now ELSE" so that to change the meaning but God is wiser than you and your demonic organization that the original Greek isn't in your possession.

But when it says FOR him in reference to the Father , This Included Jesus himself ( Col 3:23

Liar provide the verse where it is stated that Jesus is included.

This is Col 3:23 CEV: "Do your work willingly, as though you were serving the Lord himself, and not just your earthly master."

ALL THINGS ARE FOR BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON.

after Jesus had went back to heaven, don't give me the crap of human in heaven, cos the last point that finish you on the other thread will resurface and you won't find it funny ),

See the ignorant one taking pleasure in his foolishness.

Jesus is Human in heaven....you can die now.

on this basis, everything ALL THINGS is for the Father.

ALL THINGS is for the Son.

The same applies to " THROUGH him" , what came through the agency of the Father is Jesus himself . On this basis everything ALL THINGS came through the Father as well.

ALL THINGS has no two meanings only a lying liar JWs like you will attach different meanings to it.

No wonder your demonic organization OPENLY TWISTED THAT VERSE by intentionally inserted a fraudulent word "OTHER" to it.

So ALL THINGS are THROUGH both the son and the Father.

Barristter07:
Coming from a shameless Liar who said Jesus belong to himself . @ bold

See this deluded liar the son of your father the devil

on the basis of the Fact that ALL Things are for the Father because Jesus through whom he created everything ALL THINGS belong to him. . exist through his very own agency . On that basis everything ALL THINGS else that come from Jesus can be rightly said as FOR the Father and through the Father.

I strike that word to show you how myopic and shameless liar you are.

ALL THINGS has no two different meanings Jesus must be His own creator going by your twisted tongue.

No wonder you keep inventing different words to twist the truth, just imagine ALL THINGS ELSE @red not ALL OTHER THINGS again.

The only way out here is to deny Jesus belong to the Father as the shameless Liar you are

Shameless idiotic, your delusion will be cured the day you will know when scripture was talking about preincarnation and postincarnation of Jesus Christ.

For now, ALL THINGS are from both the Father and the Son. NOT all things else as you shameless put above.

livingchrist:
John 21:17
He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

Just try to watch, you'll see how they'll try to inject "OTHER" in between that ALL THINGS.

I don't know how an educated person will see "ALL THINGS" and still believe the word is selective in nature.

That dubious subtraction can be found with only JWs just because everything must be twisted against Christ.

haddeylium:
"Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father."

If that's the case, cos' of it's new nature.
What about the HOLY SPIRIT?

Just like the case of blasphemy against ONLY THE HOLY SPIRIT will make the Father not to be God since the Father wasn't mentioned.

Besides, what is this double standard with you people?

When you don't even use the word Omniscient for God.

And the funny thing is that, the same people who believe God can selectively use His attribute of All-knowing will still argue Jesus can't decide to choose to know things.

Barristter07:
You are very incoherent, firstly: To whom was the verse reffering ?

I gave you proof it was reffering to Jehovah , if you want to know what JEHOVAH made through his agency, it is Jesus himself.

Take note that the verse also said all things were made for the Father. Why? Because Jesus whom he used as agent of other things, belong to the Father himself. The same logic applys to through him. Because Jesus himself came through him , automatically everything came through the Father.

Look at the two highlights and see the dubious and lying liar JWs in display.

You used Jesus as agency of OTHER THINGS when that word was never found in the scripture but going down at second highlight, you dubiously switch to automatically EVERYTHING, which according to Cambridge dictionary, EVERYTHING is still ALL THINGS.

Just like I said, no matter how your hatred for Jesus would be, it'll never change the truth of the scripture nor who Jesus Christ is.

ALL THINGS came through the Father and the Son and the same ALL THINGS are for the Father and the Son.

But you can't bear with the truth that's why you must insert the fraudulent word "OTHER".

Barristter07:
Let the scriptures reveal who is the son of the Devil and the liar.

" For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. " John 5:26

Jesus is not the source of even life, he was granted.

Only the Father is the source of all things.

The day you'll know difference when the scripture is talking about The Son before His incarnation and after His incarnation is the day, you'll be cured of your delusion totally.

Jesus is the Author/Source of life.

Jesus is the LIFE itself, so how can someone who is life be giving life?

So no matter how you hate the truth about Jesus Christ it won't stop what scripture reveals about Him and who He was...Your God the creator of ALL THINGS.

Cambridge Dictionary defines a Being as a Person.

I didn't even take note of this your dubious act that your demonic organization taught you.

Just as the way you intentionally left out some part in the scripture you quoted earlier.

Look at the idiot and see how he used hyphen to hide something from the same Cambridge Dictionary "Cambridge Dictionary: Being , a person ... that exists"

Shameless lying liar JWs.

You are actually very deluded @ bold.
They are different beings, So you need to tell us what came through the agency of the Father !

See the chronic deluded giving his name to someone else.

ALL THINGS came through the Father.
The same ALL THINGS came through the Son

Unfortunately, You lied again.

Let the scriptures expose you once more.

" and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God. " 1Cor 3:23

Since Jesus belong to God, when it says everything were made for the Father , it's because even Jesus belong to him ( which automatically means everything are for him ) . But when it says everything was made for Jesus, this is mainly for things made through Jesus.

Again, your delusion will be cured the day you know when scripture is talking about preincarnation and postincarnation of Jesus Christ.

EMPHASIS here is EVERYTHING

So you know more than God who revealed His own word. because this your dubious explanation would have been put forward straight by God.

But as scripture put your lying mouth into the coven of your father the devil, EVERYTHING was made for Father and the Son.

Likewise when it says everything was made through the Father , it's because Jesus himself was made by the Father's agency.

Then The Father was made through the agency of the son because EVERYTHING was made THROUGH THE SON.

Now, let me give you the same definition of EVERYTHING from your favorite Cambridge dictionary.

everything
pronoun
US  /ˈev·riˌθɪŋ/
all things:

Only a deluded and lying liar will still find something OUTSIDE the ALL THINGS.

Good morning .

Who asked you

Barristter07:
The Father is the source of ALL things.

You can relax now, who gave Jesus Life ?

You don't have sense o, someone is source yet was given

Reason I do say you're Olodo oshi!

Jesus is THE LIFE ITSELF, how can someone gave LIFE a life

And Jesus is the SOURCE OF LIFE, which put your lying mouth into coven of your father the Devil that Jesus is not SOURCE OF ANYTHING.

Lying liar JWs.

U still don't get it .
Romans 11:36 says all things are From the Father , through the Father and For the Father.

Let me illustrate with the " FOR HIM "

The same bible said all things were made through Jesus and for him.

Deluded person says I didn't get it when it's obvious that it's your deluded mind that didn't get it.

ALL THINGS came through both the Father and the Son, and ALL THINGS were created FOR TJE FATHER AND THE SON.

This proves that The Father and the Son are of the same being.

But there is a difference, it said everything were made for the Father because even Jesus himself belong to the Father.

AS EVERYTHING were made for the Son, which means Jesus belongs to Himself just as the Father belongs to Himself.

Olodo...

That help us realize why even the Father is spoken of as All things were made for the Father.

And the Son is spoken of as ALL THINGS were made FOR THE SON.

If ALL THINGS came through both the Father and the Son and ALL THINGS were made for both the Father and the Son, then it means, they are of the same being.

Now the same logic applies to " through him" , unless you mean Jesus belong to himself. If Jesus didn't belong to himself, then through the Father means Jesus himself came Through the agency of the Father !!!

ALL THINGS came through the Son and the Father means they are of the same Being.

If "through him" the Son means Jesus came through the Agency of the Father, then "through him the Father" means the Father also came through the agency of the Son.

Cambridge Dictionary: Being , a person ... that exists

So you finally nail yourself. That they are same persons. Father and son are same person, see your life

Oponu radarada!

Hear it from the deluded JWs!
"That they are same persons (plural)"
"Father and son are same person (singular)" In one breath of a statement.

And the idiot can't still produce where I said "the Father and the Son are the same persons"

lying liar JWs like your father the Devil!

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks Sir!

You're welcome sir!

MaxInDHouse:
Peace Mr Emusan, May you have Peace!

Peace Mr MaxInHouse, may you have Peace!

MaxInDHouse:
Peace Mr Emusan, May you have Peace!

Peace Mr MaxInHouse, may you have Peace!

Barristter07:
1 Cor 8:6

" yet *we* have but one God, the Father, who is the source of all things "
Emphasis on ALL, everything. I was right. Only the Father was an agent of himself. Not Jesus

Which led to the next point below

Jesus is the SOURCE OF LIFE, which makes you a liar for saying Jesus isn't the source of ANYTHING

The emphasis is on ANYTHING

So both the Father and the Son are SOURCE OF CREATION, which is while the scripture can say ALL THINGS came through them.

Here is the logic .

If all things came through the son, it means nothing came through the Father. He wasn't the agent.

Your logic is awkward!

Didn't the scripture say ALL THINGS came through the Son?

You're trying to change the narration by "IF ALL THINGS"

But if something responsible for everything came through the Father , he therefore is an agent of all things by virtue of what came through him.

Likewise the Son because ALL THINGS came through the Son as well.

Are you implying that everything was through the son , and nothing came through the Father ?

See the idiot, he wants to put word in my mouth.

The scripture says ALL THINGS came through both the Son and the Father.

Is scripture lying here?

The only way out of tht question is if you tell us if Father and son are the same persons. ( U already said they are the same, now specify, same what ?)

Finally your lying mouth has been exposed, it means I didn't say "the Father and the Son are the same persons" lying liar JWs.

They are the same BEING!

MaxInDHouse:
Go and read Nebuchadnezzar's word in different versions of the Bible then come back and let us chat. Daniel 4:30
May you have Peace!

So you can direct people to other versions, do you also read Bible passages from other versions to know how they were structured?

I've read it and didn't see where anywhere Nebuchadnezzar said he built the city by HIMSELF AND ALONE, or he did it with his OWN HANDS.

OR any version described how he laid just one brick.

compare to God speaking in creation!

"It is I who by my great power and my outstretched arm have made the earth, with the men and animals that are on the earth, and I give it to whomever it seems right to me. Jer 27:5

Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, who formed you from the womb: “I am the Lord, who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself, Isaiah 44:24

I made the earth and created man on it; it was my hands that stretched out the heavens, and I commanded all their host. Isaiah 45:12

“You are the Lord, you alone. You have made heaven, the heaven of heavens, Neh 9:6


And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done. Gen 2:3

“Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding. Job 38:4

It will be a dishonesty on the part of God if actually it was another being doing this and God is making all these claims.

Barristter07:
You see why you are silly, According to 1Corinthians 8:6 , all things came from the Father. He alone is the source, so Jesus was an agent on his behalf. Jesus is not the source of anything.

Stop giving your nickname to other, you're the most silly one here.

It's like you wake up with lies this morning.

@red & blue, But Jesus is the source of life. So Father alone isn't the SOURCE and you lied again that Jesus isn't the SOURCE of Anything.

You can see how you people keep making scripture and God a liar.

So if the Father was said to be an agent of himself , for which creation ?

The Son was also said to be an agent of Himself since ALL THINGS came through both.

No, he is not lying, He Alone does it . We arrive at the point, He can claim Glory for whatever he does through others. Because they relied on his power

Making claim on what other did which you didn't do is dishonesty and has no integrity.

The scripture described how God uses His OWN HANDS in creation.

How God HIMSELF participated in the creation without ANYBODY ASSISTING HIM.

All these scriptures will be a lie and make God a dishonest person if actually He did use a being and latter claiming glory for it.

You saw a question mark,

Father and son are same what ?

Show me where I said, they are the same persons

Lying liar like your father the Devil.

Father and son are different persons. So it's illogical that same thing came through both.

But the scripture says ALL THINGS came through both the Father and the Son.

Who should we believe, you or the scripture?

Apart from the things that came through the son, what came through the Father ?

ALL THINGS came through both the Father and the Son.

Barristter07:
Came " Through him " , an agent of Himself .

Scriptural Fact

Now see your life outside!

So The Son is also an agent of HIMSELF since ALL THINGS are through Him.

Moses a god assisted, yes or no ?

Then God is lying that a god didn't assist Him, yes or no?

You can only make sense if both are the same persons,

Show me where I said Father and Son are the same persons.

Lying liar like your father the Devil.

anything else you will have to tell us what came through the Father that didn't came through the son

See the deluded JWs who we should be asking if there's anything that came through the Father that didn't come through the son, when the scripture says ALL THINGS came through both the Father and the Son.

to justify that something truly came from the Father.

Another lie, SOMETHING didn't come from the Father, rather ALL THINGS came from the Father, which scripture likewise says ALL THINGS came from the Son.

Father and Son are the same what?

Until you show me where I said they are the same PERSONS.

MaxInDHouse:
Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon was well versed in the wisdom of the world, he didn't even boast of a house but a whole city called Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar said i build Babylon! Daniel 4:30

So shameful how you people change the narration just to support your devilish doctrine.

Where in that Daniel that Nebuchadnezzar claimed to build Babylon BY HIMSELF AND ALONE?

Or where Nebuchadnezzar was said to have laid just a single BLOCK/BRICK with his OWN HANDS

Or how Nebuchadnezzar was described to have handled any tools during the construction?

Please go and argue with Nebuchadnezzar, he is not just a landlord but an Emperor claiming he built a whole city all by himself, does that mean Nebuchadnezzar never employed Craftsmen?

Rather, go and learn what it means for someone to claim, he did things by HIMSELF and ALONE.

Sorry Emusan i'm done with blind arguments,

Says the deluded JWs who will still come and lie

just know that you're wrong people often claim they built alone simply because they're the brain behind the structure.

But no one will ever says s/he BUILT by HIMSELF and ALONE not to even mention that they did it WITH THEIR OWN HANDS.

Of course they were created in God's image that's why they speak of building alone not because there were no Craftsmen but because they are the brain behind what they are referring to!

See quack reasoning and this is because you still want to keep defending your demonic doctrines.

Why will God lie that He created everything with His OWN HAND, BY HIMSELF AND ALONE when it was another being doing it.

Barristter07:
When something came from and through you, you become the Maker and the agent. So you lied.

You lied! God created everything ALONE and BY HIMSELF.

A Maker did it by HIM/HERSELF

An Agent acts on behalf of another, so who was God act on His behalf during creation?

You have roped yourself into more trouble.

Emphasis on " Alone " , Did Moses (a god ) assisted?

Coming with useless word of "emphasis"

Was the verse talking about DEITY helping the only True God or not? That's the point.

Father and son are the same persons ?

A proverb said " Dog wey go lost, no go hear whistle. "

Where did I say THEY ARE THE SAME PERSONS?

Lying liar JWs!

Barristter07:
Cognitive dissonance yet humans are god's shey ?

You keep displaying your ignorance.

If humans are gods in the sense of being a deity, even the verse you quoted will go against God Himself because that will make God statement false.

The verse is very simple even for a primary pupils to understand except for a brainwashed JWs like.

CEB: "The Lord alone led Israel; no foreign god assisted."

At least, you agreed that Jehovah used a god in creation.

Barristter07:
I didnt lie, unless you mean scripture lied. ( Romans 11:36 )

You lied, Romans 11:36 didn't say God didn't create the universe BY HIMSELF and ALONE.

After saying Moses isn't a god earlier liar

He led them alone, but a god Moses, assisted him, yes ?

This is the verse again to cure your delusion!

CEB: "The Lord alone led Israel; no foreign god assisted."

It does, But all things came through the Father as well, what is that thing that came through the Father but not through the son ?

Nothing came through the Father that wasn't THROUGH THE SON.

You can provide the verse that says otherwise.

The fact that, ALL THINGS came through both the Father and the Son means the are the same.

That's is the reason your demonic organization has to FRAUDULENTLY INSERTED the word "OTHER" more than 3 times in that Colossians 1:16-17

Barristter07:
He was lying when he said humans are god's ?

Just as you said God was lying when He said He created everything ALONE and by Himself.

Human are gods but NOT a deities in a sense of being worshipped

Na wa, so what came through the Father ?

Cos this are two different persons.

Are you saying ALL THINGS didn't come THROUGH HIM [The Son]?

Barristter07:
Exactly. Rev 4:11 ...

Then case closed.

But he used a god like Moses remember Yet claimed he alone lead isrealites ?

God used a god in creation....waoooooo

Clap for yourself.

MOSES isn't a god!

Barristter07:
Is Moses a god ?

MOSES isn't a god

All things came " through him [the Father ] " agree ?

Yes!
Just as ALL THINGS came through Him [The Son]

Barristter07:
To a deluded mind .

The fact remains all things came from him and THROUGH him.

That's your second name don't forget.

Which means God ALONE and by HIMSELF created everything without the help of any being.

Barristter07:
But other people assisted, yet he said He ALONE ?

You've started with your delusion early this morning...

Why is simple English so hard for you to comprehend

was the verse talking about PEOPLE or dieties?

The verse was simply saying NO OTHER GODS assisted the Only true God to lead ISREAL out.

This is different from where the act of creation where God said He did it by HIMSELF AND ALONE.

Even when the scripture says THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH.

You can just say God is lying by claiming to do this when in reality He used another being.

Barristter07:
Broken record, what does " Through him " tells you ?

God is lying that He created everything ALONE and by HIMSELF....