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Barristter07:
The point is clear

That "SPIRIT persons (plural) are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

Numbers 23:19 God is not Human.

The anthropomorphic point is clear.

Those mentioned at Revelation 21:3 are humans.

God is not A MAN, that He should lie...

The word MAN (flesh and blood) was used for God.

Those mentioned at Rev 21:3 are anthropomorphic, the point is clear.

Yes. Except when it's Spirit beings ..

Anthropomorphic usage.

Can you see your lying mouth, Ole...

So you know vividly that the word MAN can be used for spirit beings without flesh and blood yet you're ranting up and down since.

Then Rev 21:3 must be anthropomorphic usage also.

Angels don't reproduce or marry, the purpose of Genders is to procreate ...

Liar the purpose is gender isn't to procreate, even the usage of gender differs from culture to culture.

" He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them "Mankind" when they were created. "

The blessing was to multiply
.so my point stands

And didn't human procreating now

When you get the verse that call them human, we will talk.

The verse full Revelation as the word TRANSLATED AS ELDERS was ONLY USED for HUMAN with flesh and blood.

Verse 29 with reference to a promise.

The promise of becoming divine nature's like God , who is neither male or female .

The verse is not speaking of becoming human.. you are the liar

All believers will have that nature.

But there's no male or female IN CHRIST.

Which nullified your lies gender.

The bold is what I needed to hear

So the discussion is over since ALL BELIEVERS WILL BE SPIRIT BEINGS

Different please.

Eat the difference then.

The same body tht has return to dust ?

Since it's same body, tht means the person that have accident scars and hunch backs will be ressurected with the wounds and scars like Jess glorified body , Comprehend ?

You no well

HUMAN BODIES not spirit being

Receive sense for once.

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion.

MaxInDHouse:
An argumentative person will never tell you it's ok rather he/she will continue to provoke you with questions!

Why an argumentative mumu will never understand the point of view but keep deviating and argue ignorantly.

You believe in God so God's blessings shouldn't be a contention, a believer will simply think of his own God whenever that title is mentioned.
For instance when someone says "Daddy will take care of you" it's only orphans that will find it so difficult to agree or those whose fathers are useless, you being worried over the God in question shows you're not sure of your own God!

That's why you will keep proving to people that you're truly mumu.

Saying "God bless you" means you're invoking a higher being.

Since your own god can't bless me, then I need to know The God you're INVOKING to bless me.

I've had several encounter with Muslims as well as traditional worshipers saying "God bless you" since i know that i also have mine there is no reason pestering them over the name of the God they're talking about because i'm not interested in their God!

So you know when one tells you "God bless you" is of no interest to you but you want it to be someone interest Mumu

Then do you say Amen, to their prayer?

Being disturbed over the statement "God bless you" shows you're not sure of the efficacy of your own God Sir!

Rather, I want to know the other God you have since you said your own God can't bless me and at the same time INVOKING a God blessing on me.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is why i often call you "ARGUMENTATIVE Maximumu"

More reason I called you the above.

You said someone is deluded the person said he's OK with his own God along with other so called deluded adherents, yet you're still interested in arguing further saying the so called deluded has entered one chance, abeg one chance over what again nah?
Why not leave deluded souls and move on?

Just like I said, nobody is talking about different God here except you deluded person.

What I'm asking is, you said "God bless me" and at the same time "Your own God can't bless me"

So tell me THE GOD you invoke to BLESS ME?

Can you see how you proved your name above right?

Barristter07:
Na person wey no know you and your fraud ways u go dey Bobo

See the fraud calling another person fraud, shameless liar?

Even the CEV translation expose you . ( I know why you chosed it , others make things hard for you, but let's take a look at it )

imagine, isn't CEV your another favorite translation as your lying organization likes to use it?

"Yet God raised Jesus to life! God’s Spirit now lives in you, and he will raise you to life by his Spirit ." Rom 8:11 CEV

They will be raised to life by the Spirit which lives in them . " His Spirit " . So there getting ressurected depend on the Spirit that lives in them. unless unbelievers won't be ressurected. But we saw a twist, The same Spirit will ressurect them too . How come ?

NLT
" And just as God raised Christ Jesus from the dead, he will give life to your mortal bodies by this same Spirit living within you. "

Their ressurection proved then that they also have the same Spirit living within them .

No difference yet, the same Spirit raise both of them , same Spiritual body

The translation even poses my troubles for you.

It is OUR MORTAL BODIES that the spirit will give LIFE TO not turning people into spirit beings.

That's nice.

Says the deluded JWs!

Barristter07:
The word rendered " Spirit" is neuter , neither male not female. Which is my point

So it's no more Angels but spirit.

The joke is on you.

The same bible said God is not a man.

Every description of Jehovah is considered anthropomorphic , becauSe he is not human.

Either Jesus is human with Full blood or the usage are anthropomorphic . Pick one

But you lied that the Father has NOT BEEN CALLED MAN OR HUMAN.

Then we can say the people mentioned in Rev 21:3 is the usage of anthropomorphic.

Can you grab that into your empty skull?

So Jesus has Blood like other humans ?

So is it every time the word MAN used means the person is FLESH AND BLOOD?

Yes. He still mediates as an Human with full blood in his veins.

QED!

I need prove that the Elders, where are they called humans?

Just as you can't produce where angel are said to be gender less.

The word which is used for ONLY HUMAN was APPLIED to them.

Are humans Male and Females ?

Yes. Debunking your lies that the they will go to heaven as humans.

Or debunking your lies that there's still MALE AND FEMALE in CHRIST when the scripture openly go against you.

If they won't turn to Spirit being, they won't have been promised the divine nature . Which says what is born of spirit , is spirit . ( Not has spirit )

And we are all born of spirit which then make ALL BELIEVERS to be spirit beings.

Is spirit not things of the spirit.

Yes!

Is God different from things of God?

Phil 3:21 it will be Fashioned like Jesus Glorious body , does it have wounds ? What does this te you about other deadly marks and wounds of others ?

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion!

who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body. Phil 3:21 CEV

See another verse putting your lying mouth where it belongs.

It is still the same BODIED! So not becoming a spirit person.

Barristter07:
[s]You actually quoted it when you were asked What's the difference between Sinners human body and the so called human spiritual body ( a term not even scriptural )

You now quote and said Believers body are quickened by the spirit , but Sinners are not.[/s]

Say something better!

I quoted that verse to proof to you that AT RESURRECTION both believers and unbelievers are resurrected the same way BUT WHAT MAKES BELIEVERS OWN different is that the SPIRIT OF GOD WHO LIVES IN BELIEVERS will transform their body to be fashioned with that of Glorified Jesus.

This is when you and that your deluded brother trying to proof that both unbelievers and believers will be resurrected and that means unbelievers will also have the glorified body of Christ as you repeated below.

"Yet God raised Jesus to life! God’s Spirit now lives in you, and he will raise you to life by his Spirit." Rom 8:11 CEV

See how believers' resurrection was linked with that of Christ.

That's why I keep asking you if the SPIRIT OF GOD LIVES IN UNBELIEVERS as well. Which you said YES!


Oponu radarada.

That time your small thinking forgot that Quickened means to make Alive , So in short sinners also got spiritual body too since their mortal bodies were made alive

Go back to that my post and see the reason I cited that verse.

Lying liar.

At least you have said unbelievers have the Spirit of God in them and everybody read that here.

So continue your lies like your father the Devil!

Barristter07:
If you don't understand something, you ask: The gender of the word rendered Spirit at John 4:24 is neuter . Neither male not female.

See the lying liar mouth, no wonder your father the Devil is so much proud of you


The idiot now twisted it to John 4:24 when he openly said "SPIRIT persons (plural) are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

This is even in support of his claim that Angels HAS NO GENDER which means whenever the heavenly beings are being discussed in the scripture it is always in NEUTER.

But after the lying liar was debunked that masculine noun is being used for Jesus even after His resurrection, the tune change.

Oponu oniro jatijati.

That's my point.

The Father is never called man or human, cos he has no blood like humans . Anything human possess blood. Without it, no life as flesh

That's not your point, your point to proof that Angels don't marry since they have no genders leads to that your lies above.

Another lie from the lying liar mouth!

Jehovah is A MAN of war! Says the Holy scripture.

My point is, the word translated as PEOPLE, HUMAN in Rev 21:3 was also used for Jesus. QED!

Since you decide to be stupid to the Fact that the word man was reference to his ransom sacrifice ... Yes. And take note as well the word human used for Jesus is the same one used for flesh and blood people.

As your stupidity has First Class upper.

Does Jesus still the Mediator now in heaven? This question will continue to put your lying mouth in coven of your father the Devil.

False : the Elders themselves are Spirit beings , not men. Can you show me where they are called men?

So you then agree that the word MAN (which means flesh and blood according to you) can be used for a spirit being which rendered your Rev 21:3 useless as your lying organization.

THE WORD TRANSLATED as Elders has never been used for a spirit being because it is ONLY USED FOR MAN(FLESH AND BLOOD).

Your delusion and confusion just begin.

Humans are Male and Females .

" He created them male and female, and he blessed them and called them “human.” Genesis 5:2

" according to the promise. " Galatians 3:29

This is a reference to their existence in the Promised Divine nature like God , which is neither male nor female.

In Christ Jesus there's NO MALE OR FEMALE.

Are you In Christ Jesus?

The human spirit is his breath . Jesus spirit retuning to his Father doesn't mean Jesus returned. Note that difference before u spit nonsense. The verse refer to a change.

At least the SPIRIT belongs to Jesus which negates your lying doctrine that NOTHING SURVIVES AFTER DEATH.

And that verse proves beyond reasonable doubt that, the heavenly HOMES(NEW BODIES) will be put on like clothes not to that people will turn to spirit being all of a sudden.

What is born of spirit is not flesh

Sure as flesh is corrupted but only the things of SPIRIT live forever.

na serious Wah. So it won't be Fashioned like Jesus Glorious body which has wound ?

Your delusion is getting cured little by little. Just wait it'll fully respond.

Barristter07:
You are just a robot . U can refer back to my previous post . Romans 8:11 you cant debunk, just making baseless noises, since Spirit have genders, deal with it.

So your delusion has finally been cured!

See the idiot, who quoted Romans 8:11, you or me?

Imagine, I should debunk the verse I cited...wonders of believer in human turns to spirit being.

Just tell us where Holy Spirit get the sperm to fertilize Mary's womb, is what I'm asking!

MaxInDHouse:
You've agreed It's not compulsory that both of us worship the same God and you are certain yours is the true God.
Automatically other Gods are fake so since you are certain about that, there's no further need of who or what other Gods stand for after all you aren't gonna leave your true God for any reason!

Cry of a deluded soul!

Nobody is talking about WORSHIPPING of different Gods here except to your deluded mind!

You said "God bless me" and you went further to say "My OWN GOD can't bless you"

So which god did you INVOKE TO BLESS me when your OWN GOD can't bless me? Is the simple question I'm asking.

You know you have entered one chance by that statement.

Barristter07:
Radarada in your bid to prove nonsense , you cage yourself. If unbelievers don't have spirit of God , how come their mortal bodies are Made Alive too ? In short they get the same spiritual body , O ma se fun Emusan o

Says the deluded JWs who say the unbelievers have the Spirit of God in them yet going from house to house to preach to the same unbelievers who already have the Spirit of God.

Shebi holy spirit is a person and a " He " , according to your rants on this thread . You have your answer .

See painment!

But I didn't claim Holy Spirit slept with Mary.

So don't use style to boycot my post....

You must tell us where Holy Spirit get the sperm to fertilize Mary's womb on this thread, since you believe Holy Spirit slept with Mary!

Barristter07:
The same masculine gender was applied to the Father , is he human ?

So you lied when you made this claim "SPIRIT persons are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

Like I said, if I didn't tutor you, you won't have sense.

For Jesus to be human, he must have blood . Hebrews 2:14 Humans are creatures of flesh and blood.

Either admit this or keep ranting

The simple question is

Is Jesus still a Mediator in heaven now?

You can't run away from that question.

But they are Spirits . Oga give me where they are called Human beings ?

Into your dull skull again, The word translated as Elders HAS NEVER been used for a SPIRIT BEING this proves that they are Human.

Humans are Male and Females , So how is there no Male and female ? Is something doing your head ni ?

In Christ there's no MALE AND FEMALE....this nullified your lies of gender.

Unless you tell me, you're not IN CHRIST.

If people remain humans in heaven, they exist as Male and Females. contradicting that verse

Which verse?

The same body that has rot and become dust will be put on. it's TOTAL Change not putting new over the rotten one , use your God given sense .

NEW BODIES...olodo!

The one we have now we put it ON which means something is inside the BODY which is our SPIRIT.

And the new body - Spirit body or Human body ?

If you say spirit body okay.

But human body, Humans are flesh and blood and humans are males and females, will they be male and Female in Christ?

In resurrection what you sowed is what it raised.

We sowed Human Body and it will raise as Human body not BECOMING SPIRIT BEING.

There's no male and female IN CHRIST.

Robot , you have replied with this again. It's very clear you can't counter that point. E big pass you

Since what appear to Thomas is a Glorious body, ressurected ones will also retain Wounds and marks , Hunchback, accident burns , so far it's to be fashioned like that of Christ which has wounds .

So I'm a robot now, e pain am!

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion on that.

If this is not a counter then continue to live in your delusion.

Janosky:

Dey there DECEIVE yourself.

John 17:3, Jesus Christ says he is a Messenger of the One true God, his Father.

John 20:17, Jesus Christ have denied you forever.

But you asked me to argue with Jesus after you know you don't have any relationship with Him.

So Jesus is a messenger and NOT SON again

This attach by force on Jesus won't save you, your father the Devil knows his children.

MaxInDHouse:
Emusan, it's not compulsory you and i worship the same God!

Then who says it's compulsory before?

Since you're sure that yours is the true God, then i'm contended with my own and the worshipers of my own God (JWs). Thanks Sir!

All I'm asking you is to tell me THE NAME of God you invoke to Bless Me since your own God can't bless.

How is that one an issue?

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is enough to make you happy my friend, just forget about me after all i'm a worshiper of a different God so keep worshipping your God!

When did the friendship start Maximumu

Since your own god can't bless me, I'm still waiting for the name of the GOD YOU INVOKE to bless me...

Barristter07:
Unbelievers don't have spirit of God but the Spirit gives life to their mortal bodies.? By now you should keep shut on this Romans 8:11 , it doesn't help your case.

Says the deluded JWs who say the unbelievers have the Spirit of God in them yet going from house to house to preach to the same unbelievers who already have the Spirit of God.

See how he used style boycot my post....

You must tell us where Holy Spirit get the sperm to fertilize Mary's womb on this thread, since you believe Holy Spirit slept with Mary!

Janosky:
Bros, your 3 gods is not the one true God, Yahweh Himself.

You don't know Yahweh or His Servant, Jesus Christ.
John 20:17, argue with Jesus.


Yahweh Himself is NOT your 3 persons gods themselves.

STOP DECEIVING yourself.

Cry me a river!

Says the deluded JWs who doesn't have single connection with the true God YAHWEH who is neither partial nor lie.

You claim I don't know Jesus but still asked to argue with Jesus. For me to argue with Jesus means I know where He is and how to locate Him. Do you?

Your father the Devil, you know him! Run to him...

Barristter07:
No . 1 Timothy 2:5,6 refer to his past in human flesh and blood. It says " Gave "

Jesus is a life giving SPIRIT. Not an human anymore

So is Jesus still a Mediator now or not?

The masculine gender is used for Jesus after resurrection, then Jesus must be Human.

The Elders nullify your claim. They are Spirits not humans, yet called Elders, which proved the word was applied to even spirit beings . If they are humans , provide where they are called one ?

The WORD used for them has NEVER BEEN USED FOR A SPIRIT BEING, isn't that clear that they are HUMAN? oponu!

No single shame

Do you saw the Highlighted Mr Gender in Heaven?

This clearly isn't human Ressurection of Male and Females , but spirit beings.
Emusan debunked

I've pointed it out to you that, that verse isn't about resurrection but your deluded mind fussed resurrection into it. In fact that verse is against your gender claim as IN CHRIST there is no female or male.

Change means to REPLACE .

But OUR MORTAL BODIES will PUT ON not to replace, that's your own senseless interpretation not from the scripture.

Our bodies are like tents that we live in here on earth. But when these TENTS ARE DESTROYED, we know that God will give each of us a place to live. These homes will not be buildings that someone has made, but they are in heaven and will last forever. 2 While we are here on earth, we sigh because we want to live in that heavenly home. 3 We want to put it on like clothes and not be naked. 2 Cor 5:1-3 CEV

This is evident that our spirit resides in our body since the body said to be LIKE TENT and verse 3 made it clear that the HOME GOD will provide for in HEAVEN we want to PUT IT ON LIKE CLOTHES no talk of BECOMING SPIRIT BEING HERE but to PUT A NEW BODY ON. This is talking about the New BODIES promised ALL BELIEVERS.

The point of emphasis is " conform to his glorious body " , if what appeared to Thomas is what your deluded head call glorious body, it simply means Ressurected ones will also retain wounds, accident scars , Fire burns, hunchbacks.

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion.

MaxInDHouse:
ARGUMENTATIVE Maximumu !
My God differs from yours, that is what i'll continue to ring in your ears, sebi na me e dey pain no wahala!

It's still paining him...

I know your god is different from mine because my God is the Only true God and don't lie. The great YAHWEH Himself who has no partiality.

And since you can't tell your god to bless me, I'm still curious to know THE GOD YOU CALLED UPON as "God bless you".

MaxInDHouse:
Why do you always use the highlighted?
I respect your beliefs and i will never tell you it's nonsense, because each person have a right to believe whatever pleases him/her, i can only hold onto mine and look forward to associating with those who share the same view!

see painment, your cry cry just started.

So you now believe people have right to what they belief. I thought Jws are the only one with right...

Well Adam was the first human and the Bible says Adam is God's son, therefore Adam is God's first born son in the flesh. The scriptures explained that Jesus is the first creature so he's God's first born son in the spirit!

You can see how you're reinforcing my claim of NONSENSE.

What I asked you is to provide where scripture says Adam is the FIRST BORN SON But see how you're just perambulating.

And the scripture says that ALL BELIEVERS are ALL GOD'S SON through rebirth of God.

It's like you're used to it but is it all religious groups that's spewing nonsense or you can present a group whose teaching is OK to you?
I know that there is no two groups teaching the same thing yet separated as denominations!

Just as you use to yours!

YOU spewing nonsense!
Leave any religious group out of it. If you know the group that spew nonsense like yours, you can join them.

According to God's word they were born here on earth as humans but they were transformed into spirits, so they may have the same likeness of angels but they will still have human feelings, that's what will quantify them as worthy Kings over us!

Can you provide where God's word says people are TRANSFORMED INTO SPIRITS?

See something spirit having HUMAN FEELINGS

Don't worry you'll still confess openly.

Adam was God's son and i'm one of his descendants so i'm already qualified to be a son of God, what distance me from my Grandfather (God) is the sin brought upon me by my ancestor (Adam), now God has forgiven me through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus. So the broken chord has been mended again.
Of course i believe in God's word, it doesn't say i must become a spirit being before i can be God's son after all Adam my ancestor wasn't a spirit when God called him "SON"

My question isn't on God's WORD?
Here is my post again.

John 1:12-13 says once you believe in Jesus Christ and even in His name you are rebirth from God.

Do you believe in Jesus Christ even on His name?

Jesus said those going to heaven with him will not marry since only masculine and feminine (flesh) do this, he added saying "they will become like angels (spirits)" {Luke 20:34-36} so it's evident that they will be transformed into spirits before they can go to heaven! 1Corinthians 15:50 compared to 1Thessalonians 4:16 compared to
Those going to heaven will become our rulers while we are their subjects, we will all live forever after Satan's destruction, that's the one hope God promised us all! John 3:16

Still the same nonsense!

Stop lying against Christ, Jesus didn't say THOSE GOING TO HEAVEN WITH HIM won't marry, that's the brainwashing watchtower implanted in your dull skull.

Jesus was ADDRESSING GENERAL RESURRECTION, this stems from the question the people asked Jesus.

Firstly, the people were talking about those WHO HAVE DIED EVEN BEFORE CHRIST CAME TO EARTH.

Secondly, the question was "AT RESURRECTION, whose wife will she be?"

Lastly, Jesus' answer was directly on the question

34 The people in this world get married. 35 But in the future world no one who is worthy to rise from death will either marry 36 or die. They will be like the angels and will be God’s children, because they have been raised to life.[/b] Luke 20:34-35 CEV

1. The PEOPLE in this world
2. but IN the FUTURE WORLD
3. Who is worthy to RISE FROM DEATH will neither marry or die.
4. Will be God's children (at least you agreed that you're God's son)

Tell me, is this about specific people or people in general?

Of course you can make disciples but unlike my own organization the disciples you're going to make can never be ORGANIZED because there is no room for orderliness when you can't present those taking the lead and those under their supervision!

Leave organized alone, you can't deceive me with fake Hall smile that you people give at every meetings when the same organized group can't allow their children to marry.

When i say "God bless you" you have the right to claim it or reject it Sir, you and i aren't worshipers of the same God, that's why i never mention the name of my own God, if you want his blessings then you must submit to the same rules as millions of his worshipers do!

I must know the God who wants to bless me, or I don't have right to know?

So your own God can't bless me, THEN WHICH GOD DO YOU CALL ON TO BLESS ME

achorladey:
You never see anything. The same ORGANIZATION they belong that said those Christians whose faith are strong will be sitting in heaven while others CHRISTENDOM whose Faith are not as strong will be standing in heaven

Check through the all paragraph no single scripture to support that some whose faith are strong is SITTING and those whose faith is weak is STANDING


They get heartometer to measure love of GOD in the heart of CHRISTIANS. To check those ZEALOUS and those not ZEALOUS.

So they later admit that the great crowd is actually in heaven and not only 144,000 will be in heaven....

See confusion everywhere!

The question now is, does this crowd also become spirit beings or just flesh and bones

Much wahala for human tuned spirit being believer.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't need to be aggressive over this Sir!

Just as you and your brothers are furious all over the thread.

Lemme separate your statement and to show you the nonsense you just spew.

God call Adam "son" just as he called Jesus, the only difference is Jesus is God's first born son (in the spirit realm) while Adam was God's first born son (in the flesh).

Where did the scripture say Adam was God's FIRST BORN?

So God never intended to scrap any of these two but since Satan (because he's a powerful spirit being) challenged God's authority to rule over humans,

JWs philononsense.

God decided to MAKE HUMANS rule as KINGS OVER the EARTH and to ridicule Satan completely THESE HUMANS will become spirit persons in heaven when Satan is ousted.

This is where you spew that thrash,

If the people who will RULE FROM HEAVEN are HUMANS then by becoming a SPIRIT BEING doesn't make them HUMAN AGAIN...

is it HUMAN that will rule as kings OR spirit being?

That's why they needed a rebirth as God's son in the spirit realm.

John 1:12-13 says once you believe in Jesus Christ and even in His name you are rebirth from God.

Do you believe?

But it's not all God's children that will become spirit beings, millions will inherit the earth as flesh and God's blessings will be upon them forever!

Where do you read it from the scripture that people will become SPIRIT BEINGS?

On what basis will some inherit earth and others dont when we all have ONE HOPE IN CHRIST?

So if you don't agree with that there's no wahala, keep your faith and continue making disciples for your God, i'm always doing the same for mine!

You're not the one who will tell me that.

So you agree we MAKE DISCIPLES FOR OUR GOD....I thought only your organization makes disciples.

God bless you!

You mean OUR God?

achorladey:
JWs proof text to show how the 144,000 are confirmed to be among those going to HEAVEN

!” 16 The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 If, then, we are children, we are also heirs—heirs indeed of God, but joint heirs with Christ—provided we suffer together so that we may also be glorified together.

It will be interesting to ask the JWs

Is the SPIRIT 1 bearing witness with OUR SPIRIT 2 on

1. EARTH or in

2. HEAVEN

Is the OUR SPIRIT 2 in a

1. Physical body or

2. Spiritual body as at the time of getting such WITNESS

cc: Blabbermouth

You can even hear the delude JWs saying, they were BORN OF SPIRIT on earth before they died yet they didn't become a spirit being immediately.

Barristter07:
[s]Your hopeless use of Romans 8:11 has been exposed , so no single difference between the body of believers and unbelievers Eeyah , . For other points check my first reply.[/s]

Says the deluded JWs who say the unbelievers have the Spirit of God in them yet going from house to house to preach to the same unbelievers who already have the Spirit of God.

See how he used style boycot my post....

You must tell us where Holy Spirit get the sperm to fertilize Mary's womb on this thread, since you believe Holy Spirit slept with Mary!

Clown!

Barristter07:
Human have blood sustaining their flesh . DO YOU ACCEPT THIS ?


" Because God’s children are human beings—made of flesh and blood —the Son also became flesh and blood. For only as a human being could he die " Hebrews 2:14 NLT

was the same Greek word used in Rev 21:3 used for Jesus in heaven now?

They are spirits , and it's usage for them nullify your point.

Yet the word translated as elders has never used for SPIRIT BEINGS...

Liar...the word is only used for MAN....

Galatians 3:26,28 addressing those with hope of having the divine nature says and I quote

" You are all, in fact, sons of God through your faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in union with Christ Jesus. "

In their Spirit form, There is no Male nor Female

But your deluded head is saying, There will be Male and Female in heaven

To think that a sane person can boldly say this is for people with heavenly hope is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read here.

Your lying mouth doesn't even have shame again.

You are all, in fact, sons of God through your faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female, for you ARE ALL ONE in union with Christ Jesus."

Look at the scripture you quoted and see how it actually put your lying mouth into shame.

Despite the fact that these verses are talking about ALL BELIEVERS, it's clear from it that, it's not ABOUT RESURRECTION but your deluded mind has misinterpreted and sneak in resurrection into it.

Philipians 3:21 "He will change our weak mortal bodies and make them like his own glorious body, using that power by which he is able to bring all things under his rule. "

You saw the underlined, shebi you ain't blind ?

His so called Glorified body retain it wounds and scars, that means the ressurection bodies will retain Wounds, accident scars , Fire burns, Hunchback and other deformities

You See the @color, oh sorry I forgot you're blind.

Jesus will change OUR mortal bodies to be conformed with His glorious body NOT to turn anybody into SPIRIT BEING.

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion.

haddeylium:
Lol.
Jws believe Jesus is a spirit being with spirit nature(Invisible, Immaterial to human eyes) in heaven
Be Clear with your stand too
is he a Human with physical/Natural nature (Visible, material) in heaven?

That's why I called it idiotic question!

And it shows how shallow your understanding is if you can't decipher that from post from page 1-76 by now.

haddeylium:
Oh! So, Jesus is with human nature (Visible, material) in heaven?

Idiotic question!

Barristter07:
Jesus being human in heaven means he is flesh and blood.

The same word used for Jesus is the same word used in Rev 21:3 so Jesus is Human.

And the word translated as Elders has never been used for spirit BEING only for HUMAN.

I told you running to Greek won't save you.

But angels are neither male not female, So how are they like angels if they are raised as male and females ?

They are like Angel because THEY WON'T MARRY

How do you know angels are neither male or female?

Mary is female, It takes a male to fertilize a female egg Mr Gender in heaven .

So Holy Spirit will come upon Mary means if Holy Spirit is a male He will sleep with Mary....

Like I said, a pervert soul indeed and to even know that's the normal thinking of some Atheist.

And do you believe Mary womb was fertilized WITH SPERM?

If yes! SPERM IS MATERIAL how does Holy Spirit get sperm to fertilize Mary's egg.

Much trouble for you.

Unless you mean unbelievers want be ressurected. It's definitely for them since their mortal bodies too will come alive. In short your spiritual body extends to Unbelievers too . Eleya Yi ma po o

Since you say unbelievers has God's Holy Spirit then, you and them will be in your imaginary heaven while God will dwell with Us the Born again Christian.

Barristter07:
The context of the usage for Jesus defeat your purpose. Kindly provide where the word Human used in Genesis 5:2 was used for the 24 Elders ? O tun n paro

The word MAN was used for Jesus as was used in Rev 21:3 it must mean Jesus is human.

The word translated as ELDERS in Revelation was ONLY USED FOR HUMAN not spirit. Those elders must be Human in heaven.

What's their gender ?

Where there is gender, there is marriage and Sex.

Do angels have sex ?

Do they marry ?

Brain no just dey for you

Olodo... After I schooled you but you're claiming Angels don't have genders.

Only a pervert soul will think there will be sex in heaven.

Then where in the scripture it is stated that people will marry after resurrection?

Where Male and Female exist, Sex exists .

Neuter simply means neither masculine or feminine. Since they have genders in your small head, what's their genders ?

Neuter is part of FOUR genders noun.

Olodo oshi.

If spirit persons are always described with A NEUTER as you said earlier then you just proved my point that Jesus is still a MAN IN HEAVEN because after resurrection Jesus was still addressed with masculine noun.

Much problems for human tuned spirit being believer.

It will be patterned after Jesus ressurection body of wounds and scars, person wey get hunchback go retain am, Burns and fire scars, surgery scars, accident scars will all be retained. Since that body Jesus show to his apostles is your small thinking definition of glorified body.

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion

Barristter07:
Flesh , bones, blood.
Genesis 5:2 Do they have blood ?

Isn't the same word used?

Hypocrite!

Nowhere in the scripture does it say they have gender. The word " Spirit " is even neuter

Neuter is part of genders noun.

To your deluded mind, you think gender is just about male and female..
Go school you no gree

Let me burst your brain: So Holy spirit has Gender, you wan tell us say He sex Mary ?

Bobo yi

A perverted soul, why don't you think of if Holy Spirit is a female?

That's why you want to fuss gender into heaven just to say there will be sex in heaven.

Oniranu

U say they don't , yet their mortal bodies were made to come to life , Are you okay ?

You're not okay for sure!

Then do you agree that Romans 8:11 isn't for unbelievers?

Barristter07:
Humans are flesh and blood beings, Do you then accept Jesus is flesh and blood?

Human is FLESH AND BONES, Jesus is human now in heaven.

So what's their gender?

Answer my question first!

You don't have sense.
For them to have receive life in their mortal bodies , they have it. Romans 8:11

So unbelievers have the SPIRIT OF GOD, yet you who don't have God's spirit go from house to house to preach to the same unbelievers who have God's spirit

And the Bible even says As many that are led by the SPIRIT OF GOD they are the sons of God"

Your case is beyond repair!

Barristter07:
This thread will be bookmarked for references . Emusan goofing left and right in doctrinal errors.

Cry me a river!

God's divine nature is Spirit in form . The text did well pointing it out that it's a promise

If it's wrongly interpreted, then tell this thread How is what is born of spirit, Spirit ?

Just as the following text shows that the promise is for ALL BELIEVERS.

I've done that earlier, you left your brain in mechanic place then?

" Do you" , in other words you can personally dictate that you wanna be born again. Which goes against the scriptures you even quoted.

"DO YOU" is a question tag and answer me ode

It's evident from that scripture that A BELIEVER IS BORN OF GOD

They are . Genesis 5:2 is still there for you.

Then Jesus and the 24 elders are flesh and blood in heaven since the same word used in Gen 5:2 was used for them.

wow, what are the genders ? Male , female?

Show us from the scripture where it says Angels don't have genders.

Why don't they marry if they have gender?

You see what I'm talking about, the pervert thinks heaven must be about sex.

SPIRIT persons are represented as Neuter in scriptures.

When I say go to English school you won't here, now you're disgracing yourself on a public forum.

Neuter is part is of four genders of noun?

What you even know as genders vary from culture to culture.

Olodo oshi..

Are you denying Jesus glorious body ni ? Eleya yi ma po o

The so called Glorified Body of Jesus have Wounds and Scars , he appeared to the disciples with it.

Hence the question: Since their Ressurection all be patterned after that of Christ Glorified body which have wounds and scars, Do you then admit that people will retain their Accident scars, surgery scars, Fire burns, Marks, , hunchbacks etc ?

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there for you let it cure your delusion.

Barristter07:
It's kind is a body of flesh and blood . So is Jesus flesh and blood in heaven ?

ITS KIND is HUMAN not Spirit.

Simple question: if they will be like Angels, do angels have gender ?

Show us from the scripture, that angels don't have genders.

Yet that Spirit of God give life to Sinners mortal bodies too ? in short, they have Spiritual bodies as well .

Do UNBELIEVERS have God's spirit in them

This question won't go until you answer it.