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Barristter07:
@red

In addition to my first point given earlier

At Deuteronomy 32:12 we read " The Lord alone led Israel " CEB .

Can you explain this ? Did he led them by Moses ?

Over to you.

No wonder you couldn't quote the verse in full

CEB: "The Lord alone led Israel; no foreign god assisted."

Barristter07:
" For FROM him [The Father] and through him and for him are all things. To him be the glory forever! Amen. " Romans 11:36

He has every right to claim he stretched it by Himself because Jesus came through him. Therefore he alone is the source of all things ( 1Cor 8:6 )

@color is enough to see the spirit of your father the Devil in your.

God was lying that He stretched out the heavens ALONE and by HIMSELF...

MaxInDHouse:
I'm the landlord of my duplex so everyone in the estate knew it belongs to me, my name is written in all the documents, yet i employed worker to do the work i only instruct them on how i want my house to be.
So "i built my house all by myself" doesn't mean there was no Craftsman Sir {Proverbs 8:30} it simply means i'm the brain behind it!

I've always told you people to stop using this line of argument, it's pure ignorance and fact lies.


No LANDLORD who is not an Engineer will ever CLAIM "I built MY HOUSE ALL BY MYSELF"

It's a shared ignorance and intellectual dishonesty to see a clear statement like that of "ALONE and ALL BY MYSELF"

NLV: The Lord, Who makes you, bought you and saves you, and the One Who put you together before you were born, says, “I am the Lord, Who made all things. I alone spread out the heavens, and I alone spread out the earth.

If God says "I ALONE...."

And went further to explain what He did by "SPREAD OUT THE HEAVENS"

Even Prov 8 supported this because the speaker clearly stated that it is God who was actually doing the work of creation and not THE SPEAKER.

To claim other being helped God in creation is to give God's glory to a mere creatures.

Rilwayne001:
Christianity is an odious lie.

That Bible is filled with contradictions and illogicals but these lots are too blind to see it. The major reason why there are hundreds of denominations with different levels of delusions.

Smh

This must also applicable to Quran and Islam!

Janosky:
[s]According to Mr LIENUS & Mr Barnes, Jesus is God the Father they pray to.
@ Matthew 6:9, the injunction for praying ;
"Our Father who art in heaven"
No dey Mr LIENUS Bible [/s]

Janosense the royal ranting...

Mr LIENUS & Barnes FALSELY claim @ Acts 7:59 means that @Acts25:11,12,25 ,Paul was praying to Roman emperors.

To call upon is to get the attention of that person. Apostle Paul appeals the Roman Emperors for their attention.

Stephen APPEALED to JESUS Christ to receive his spirit, which is what ONLY GOD can do.

Deluded

Greek 1941 EPIKALEO is the same meaning.
Not prayer to Jesus.

So what was Stephen doing?

Who was your Almighty God Jesus praying to?

The Father!

Mr LIENUS in sifia pains..
The word "God" is NOT in Acts7:59, cry me a river.
Mr Barnes said so.
When Messi play ball go over the bar , make we lie say him score goal?
Mr LIENUS, slave to eye service
..

And the same Barnes said:

They stoned Stephen, invoking, or calling upon, and saying, Lord Jesus," etc. That is, he was engaged "in prayer" to the Lord Jesus. The word is used to express "prayer" in the following, among other places: 2 Corinthians 1:23, "I call God to witness"; 1 Peter 1:17, "And if ye call on the Father," etc.; Acts 2:21, "whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord," etc.; Acts 9:14; Acts 22:16; Romans 10:12-14. This was, therefore, an act of worship; a solemn invocation of the Lord Jesus, in the most interesting circumstances in which a man can be placed - in his dying moments." ----ALBERT BARNES NOTE

Mr Janosense hasn't proved that the word wasn't used as prayer in 2 Corinthians 1:23, 1 Peter 1:17, Acts 2:21 e.t.c

MaxInDHouse:
ARGUMENTATIVE Maximumu!
Someone directly spoke against God's word openly yet you still don't feel remorseful to ask him to keep shut!

Just as I'm asking you and your lying organization to keep shut because of the same way you openly spoke against God's word.

God's word said Stephen saw Jesus standing at God's right hand {Act 7:56} your friend said God's word is nonsense simply because of the tradition infused in his brain.

God's word said "CEB: The Lord your redeemer who formed you in the womb says: I am the Lord, the maker of all, who ALONE stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by MYSELF" but your deluded brain said God's word is nonsense simply because of the tradition infused in your dull brain.

Now i know you don't really worth a response!

And you still go ahead to respond, that makes you what

MaxInDHouse:
What usually confuse misinformed Churchgoers is their so called Trinity dogma. JWs know that Jesus was the person who created everything {Colossians 1:15-16}

No wonder your organization have to fraudulently inserted the word OTHER in that Colossians 1:15-16.

because Jesus will be the one who created himself.

but he was acting on the instructions from our grand Creator JEHOVAH!

Then Jehohav is lying here "CEB: The Lord your redeemer who formed you in the womb says: I am the Lord, the maker of all, who ALONE stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by MYSELF"

As a master Craftsman beside his God and Father {Proverbs 8:22-31}

Even in the same Proverbs God never says He used anybody to create the universe rather the same proverbs still supports the Isaiah that God created everything ALONE and by HIMSELF.

I was there when THE LORD put the heavens in place and stretched the sky over the surface of the sea. 28 I was with HIM when HE placed the clouds in the sky and created the springs that fill the ocean. 29 I was there when HE set boundaries for the sea to make it obey him, and when HE laid foundations to support the earth.

Jesus was receiving instructions on how to go about the work, we can see this at Genesis 1:1-2,

See delusions, where in that Genesis 1 it was stated that Jesus was receiving instructions to create things

That's just the figment of imagination of your lying mouth organization.

there it was revealed that God's instructions to create the heavens (spirit realm) where his spirit sons (angels) dwells wasn't difficult for Jesus who is also a spirit but when it comes to the creation of physical realms Jesus need to be guided, that's why you'll notice @ Genesis 1:3 that God was given the instructions and after Jesus has done it God still inspects the job! Genesis 1:4,31

This scripture "CEB: The Lord your redeemer who formed you in the womb says: I am the Lord, the maker of all, who ALONE stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by MYSELF" proofs beyond reasonable doubt that, these are just scriptures twisting because God created EVERYTHING ALONE and by HIMSELF.

So we acknowledge the part Jesus (God's only begotten son) played in all God's work but he is not the Almighty God!

To acknowledge this part means you agree that Jesus is Jehovah because JEHOVAH CREATED ALL THINGS ALONE and by HIMSELF.

I know this scriptural truth will be peppering your body now!

MaxInDHouse:
Perhaps the hatred you have for the TRUTH will edit all the Bible versions in the world!

Just as your organization lies edited New World Translation.

Janosky:
Albert Barnes 2nd quote is FALSEHOOD.

Greek 1941 in Acts 25:11,12,25 , in Acts7:59, according to Emusan LIENUS & Albert Barnes , Paul is praying to Roman emperors

@color See the hypocrisy I'm talking about, the same Barnes you called his authority for fraudulent insertion is the same you called FALSEHOOD in the same breath.

Well that's a typical deluded brainwashed Janosense for you.

[s]Mr LIENUS, is the first born of every child, still a child?
Jesus the first born of every creature is himself a creature, he came through his Father. Romans 11:35-36 immutable.
Colossians 1:16, JWs are correct joor.


John 20:17, Jesus answered:"I am ascending to my God and your God"
Mathew6:9 "You MUST pray this way:
Our Father who art in heaven"
Mr LIENUS, go figure the meaning of MUST...

Colossians 1:3
"We ALWAYS THANK GOD, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."
Ephesians 3:14-21,Bros, go and learn to RECEIVE SENSE .

STEPHEN did NOT, was NOT praying to Jesus.
Paul and Jesus confirmed you 3 pagan spirits devotees are LIARS. :[/b]D


[b]Mr LIENUS, Romans 10:13 is quote of Joel 2:32, "anyone who calls on the name of Yahweh", is Jesus his Father Yahweh he prayed to ?


Your Almighty God wey dey obey Command:
"Sit at my right hand "
Bible confirmed your Almighty God get him God and Father in heaven.
Even your Almighty God Jesus confirmed himself get him God in heaven, "my God,my God why have you forsaken us?" [/s]

Mr JaNosense the royal ranting as usual...

Janosky:
The word "God" is DUBIOUS insert into Acts7:59.

E no dey authentic Greek manuscripts.

Why resort to another Fraud to support a man made scam?

See the Hypocrite JaNosense

Imagine, talking about FRAUDULENT INSERTION when your own translation fraudulently inserted the word "OTHER" many times which can't be found in the original Greek or any MSS.

Why didn't you screenshot the FULL part of Barnes Note?

You intentionally removed the part that exposed your organization lies.

Well this is the part your intentionally ommited.

"Calling upon God - The word God is not in the original, and should not have been in the translation. It is in none of the ancient mss. or versions. It should have been rendered, "They stoned Stephen, invoking, or calling upon, and saying, Lord Jesus," etc. That is, he was engaged "in prayer" to the Lord Jesus. The word is used to express "prayer" in the following, among other places: 2 Corinthians 1:23, "I call God to witness"; 1 Peter 1:17, "And if ye call on the Father," etc.; Acts 2:21, "whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord," etc.; Acts 9:14; Acts 22:16; Romans 10:12-14. This was, therefore, an act of worship; a solemn invocation of the Lord Jesus, in the most interesting circumstances in which a man can be placed - in his dying moments." ----ALBERT BARNES NOTE

Ask4bigneyo:
Its been long o

You started this thread and I was the first to comment

Barristter07:
Emusan In Gbas Gbos

Deluded Barristter07 forming in the mouth.

What carries that Life in human Body ? Gbas gbos

It's blood! Then the point is, Blood don't make us HUMAN but flesh and bones are.

That's why I said earlier that for scientists to solve the issue of ageing, all what they need to do is to resolve the issue of our blood vessel.

So if scientists acheived that, does that means we're not human again

No wonder, you're Oponu!

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him


John 6:46
“No man has seen The Father, except he who is from God; he himself sees The Father.”


All those people you mentioned only saw his representative angels .

Unless you mean Jesus is a Liar ... Your power no reach e don red

Jesus didn't lie neither the writer of Genesis who says MOSES and Jacob saw God FACE TO FACE, the only deluded person here is the one who couldn't understand the speakers intent.

If what MOSES saw was a representative, then what is the essence of God says He can't see His face?

So you don't know what you are quoting, I should be the one to provide the verse yeye dey smell

"They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. " Revelation 22:4,5

No man can see God's Face and LIVE .

They are not humans , but Spirit persons.

1. So there's NIGHT in heaven
2. There is SUN SHINE in heaven
3. So the SPIRIT BEING also use LIGHT OF LAMP to see.

Keep exposing your ignorance up and down.

The man that can't see God's face and live is a frail man not Glorified man, even as man is in his frail state, God still chooses to reveal Himself to whom He wills.

Revelation reveals that the people are with human flesh and bones that's why it says No need of SUN, won't FEEL HUNGRY and FEEL THIRSTY.

We already know that spirit being don't experience something like this before.

Barristter07:
If that body is in existence, it won't be Recreated.

Provide the scripture where it is stated that "new CREATED body"

Lying liar like your father the Devil.

Frustrated man, those are visions. You can as well say Stephen is already a glorified human , so we can know if Glorified humans dey die. You cant lie any longer . Gbas gbos

Learn to use your brain.

Deluded man, so Human can see God in the vision but I thought nobody human can see God in your delusion!

No wonder you couldn't provide the scripture for everyone to see.

Oponu radarada!

Barristter07:
You always reveal it that you don't have sense, U saw " created " , Created itself means Brand NEW . That's the point . The body that comes back from Dust is viewed as Recreation. Not transformation. Killin the idea of Jesus body was transformed, since he and his Apostles had to have same pattern of ressurection. They got a new body, Jesus got one too

Humans can't see God's FaCE and Live , Delusion grandeur Emusan, this points will hunt your Devilish lies on Nairaland.

Provide where it is written from the scripture "new CREATED body"

Now see the useless idiot, talking about RECREATION, can you RECREATE what is NONEXISTENT?

Oponu oshi!

What's different between recreation and TRANSFORMATION

Lying liar like your father the Devil.

Now, it's no more see God but God's face.

Glorified human can see God, that's why people being in spirit saw God sitting on His throne.

When Stephen was being stoned to death, heaven was opened and he saw God, which means God decides to REVEAL HIMSELF to him.

Your lies are being busted left and right


Oponu radarada!

Barristter07:
So where is the Lie ? Unless you mean they don't have breath of Life .

idiot .

Oponu oniro radarada!

Where in that verse it is written that BREATH OF LIFE PUMP BLOOD?

Unless you provide it, then you remain the lying liar like your father the Devil.

No man has seen God at anytime ... Point 1.

Quote the verse complete idiot.

Jacob didnt see God but his representative , an angel . ... Point 2.

So Jacob lied!

They are not humans in heaven, Humans cannot see God's Face and Live . Ezekiel 33:20

Keep dancing around like headless chicken

It's no more, with BLOOD but seeing God's Face.

That's a weak human, even then scripture still recorded people who saw God because God decides to REVEAL HIMSELF to them.

The Revelation mention his Very Face . Striking your human in heaven assertion dead.

Provide the verse...

Resurrected Human are in heaven and your human turned spirit being is nonsensical.

Barristter07:
Jehovah consider the bringing of a body from the dust as Creation, that means brand new, not old body. The bold in your comment very much apply to you.

Oponu radarada Barristter07

What you sowed in resurrection is what it RAISED

You sowed Human flesh, it is raised human flesh.

Does the DUST then NONEXISTENT?

Psalm 104

All creatures look to you
to give them their food at the proper time.
28 When you give it to them,
they gather it up;
when you open your hand,
they are satisfied with good things.
29 When you hide your face,
they are terrified;
when you take away their breath,
they die and return to the dust.
30 When you send your Spirit,
they are created,
and you renew the face of the ground.

Is it about resurrection or what?

So Ressurected ones got a new Created body, Same as Jesus . Not old one repackaged.

Provide the verse in the scripture where we can find "new CREATED body"

Just see how you keep adding to the scripture attest your own will just to continue propagating your demonic doctrines.

Let this continues to hurt your deluded mind, after resurrection we'll be human without the need of sun, food and water and no human will become a spirit being.

Barristter07:
Flesh without blood is Dead. The presence of breath OF LIFE ( Life is in the blood ) spoken of in Ezekiel signifies the presence of Blood ( life ) .

You no be kindergarten na . For you to claim anyone is a Living human in heaven, they must possess blood. Focus point 1

Focus point 1: You lied that BREATH OF LIFE BUMP blood into flesh in Ezekiel... You can provide the scripture!

Flesh and bones is what makes us human, BLOOD is just the LIFE carrier, the resurrected bodies wont need blood no more, that's why the bodies won't need sun, feel hungry, feel thirsty.

The idiot quickly put " from scripture " . But we know the same scripture said No man has seen God at anytime. Moses didn't See God's face, because it's impossible for an human to see God's Face and LIVE Exodus 33:20

" But He said, "You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!"

Whereas in Revelation , the persons spoken of as needing no sun , were seeing God's Face as well.

Always quote scripture in complete Oponu oniro!

But MOSES saw God and Jacob, now you're changing it to FACE, even when Jacob said I've seen God FACE TO FACE and I'm alive.

In fact, Jesus said, He will REVEAL the Father to those whom He chooses. So which means as human, we can't just see God the way we want unless He decides to do so.

Clearly they are NOT HUMANS. But Spirit persons... Focus point 2

They are human in heaven, Just as Christ is human in heaven now.

Barristter07:
There is nothing like human if they don't share flesh and blood, ( Heb 2:14) Unless you refer to dead bodies.

And the dead BODIES is what, animal?

Just like I said, your lying mouth put BREATH OF LIFE BUMP BLOOD in the flesh of those Ezekiel.

And for the records, The message is clear , Humans cannot see God. U can keep your glorified nonsense in your pocket. Idiot ,

From scripture, Moses saw God.

Your can keep living in your delusions for life.

glorified body that retain scars and wounds. Human is human and they can't see God, which means that heavenly life is for Spirit beings

Also, 1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion.

Jesus is human in heaven so as all His saints will be.

Barristter07:
Memories is not the same as the body that return to Dust, what return to dust is out of existence , Killin your transformation agenda .

Oponu radarada!

My point is, if Jehovah keeps the memories of those who died, is their dust not part of it?

So you can't say, it's out of existence to Jehovah even if it's out of existence to your deluded mind.

That means the same body who died is the one that will be raised.

Barristter07:
Before Adam was Created, Does he exist ?

I want to see if Dust = Non existence or not.

Oponu....How can Adam exist when he wasn't CREATED

Does people who died are in the memories of your god now or not? are they out of existence?

Idiot

That is not an human body , those described will even See God , Can a Human see God and Live ?

Thinking no dey for you, ... They are spirit persons.

Oponu ode...

The answer to that has been given above.

They are Glorified human.

It's out of existence, Emphasis on " Pattern of ressurection " like Jesus . They are going to get a New Body, Just as Jesus got a new one. Not transformed ... What return to dust is not in existence .

But they are living in the memory of your deluded god, is that something that OUT OF EXISTENCE? Olodo radarada.

A new body of flesh and bones.

Barristter07:
[s]Hebrews 2:14

" Because God’s children are human beings—made of flesh and blood —the Son also became flesh and blood "

It's very simple . Ezekiel was reffering to humans. Sharers of flesh and blood. Without this blood, they ain't human[/s]

Lying liar, the verse didn't say BREATH OF LIFE BUMP BLOOD in their flesh before becoming human, that was your delusion from your tiny brain as a result of doing the work of your father the Devil by adding to the scripture.

You forgotten it also said they will see God's face ? In your tiny head, that was a reference to Earth right ? It was reffering to heavenly life Olodo ... Those ressurected to heaven will see his Face as Spirit persons . No man can see God and Live. So they are not human. But Those chosen to Rule with Christ as Spirit persons.

Another jargons...

Flesh and blood can't inherit the kingdom of God but at resurrection the glorified human can and will see God.

Barristter07:
That's a Refurbished steel, nOt a New Steel Olodo ...

" To make steel, iron ore is heated and melted in furnaces where the impurities are removed and carbon added. "

This is a New Steel . Made from scratch .

When I say you're Olodo buruku, you'll be feeling bad.

PURE Iron and STEEL are corroded in the presence of moisture.

Our body is corrupted due to weaknesses.

A corroded Iron or steel can be made nonrusted IRON OR STEEL by coating them with NONRUSTED elements.

Anytime you do this YOU'RE PROTECTING THE IRON OR STEEL to last more than the usual time when they're left UNPROTECTED.

This is not refurbished BUT PROTECTION TO LAST LONG.

Stop diving into what you have limited knowledge of.

Not the same body, if it's the same body, It will retain Wounds, Scars, fire burns, and other defects like your Jesus human body retained it.

Afyer I even showed you the glaring nonsense you put up there

Something that goes out of existence can't be said to be RETURNED TO DUST.

Olodo oshi....

Argue with 1 Corinthians 15:38

What return to Dust , and brought back is an Act of RE-CREATION of a New Body , So many died in the sea eaten up by fishes and sharks. , Some persons eaten by lions and crocodiles on dry land. So eat that crap of same body . And use your sense for once.

But your deluded mind believes that Jehovah can keep ALL THE MEMORIES of those died in other to CREATE their perfect person back to life.

So won't Jehovah be able to keep the memories of individuals turned dust also?

Transformation requires the existence of a body , New body requires none . So grab the difference

It's new body because the BODY NOW functioning more than just ordinary. The body won't thirst, feel hungry, or need sun.

If Jesus body was transformed, it means that body didn't return to Non existence, likewise his apostles bodies too will be refurbished while it's not yet Decayed.

But if Jesus got a new body , it follows that his apostles too will lose their present body.

The Apostles died years ago and resurrection has never happened, so their bodies are already rotting but the people who will be alive at the time of Jesus coming will be CHANGED.

Barristter07:
The verse mention they are covered with flesh, the life of that flesh is in the blood. 100% scripture. The reason they are dry bones earlier was because they are dead and no longer possess blood .

Unless Jesus is a dead man, he possess blood as human.

But they are still human and the scripture didn't say BREATH OF LIFE PUMP blood into the flesh, that's your own addition to the scripture.

Jesus is a human in heaven now!

If the pattern of Jesus body is a deformed body with wounds. What do you expect ?

You See how silly you sound now.

Jesus is useless!!! So humans now redeem themselves with their own blood ? This same blood made it possible for them to live forever on Earth ? Why is it hard for you to admit Faithful persons are part of the second ressurection ?

Jesus didn't useless! They refused the first offer.

Romans 6:7 ,23 he who has died is Free from his sins. Unbelievers are judged based on what they did within the 1000 years of Christ reign. Not past life, their Ressurection is a benefit of Jesus Ransom sacrifice through which God overlook their past sins.

So what is essence of your moving from house to house when unbelievers are free from sins at death and God already overlooked their past since.

So after resurrection people will still be disobeying God! I don't think even an atheist will come back to life and failed to belief in God not to talk of disobeying Him.

Everyone that survive Satan's final test will live forever on Earth as Flesh and blood humans ( Rev 21:3)

That will die and rot because everything that responsible for corruption of the body are in the BLOOD.

So for human body to live forever, flesh and bones must be energized by what won't caused damages to the body.

That's why even scripture described that after resurrection our body won't be functioning like it is now because then we won't need sun, feel hungry, feel thirsty.

Which a body with blood seriously need for survival.

Which means your theory of flesh and blood live forever is false.

The point is for anyone to be human, they must possess blood, unless they are dead bodies.

Liar, flesh and bones makes us human, the life is in the blood, what the body needs is LIFE.

If scientists want to solve the issue of ageing, they need to find a way of replacing the blood vessel in our body but scientist can't deal with ageing by removing ALL OUR FLESH AND BONES and still claim we're human.

Go school you no gree!

haddeylium:
Yeah.. of course!
The body that is yet to heal from wounds and scars

Thanks sir!

If it's not heal, how will Jesus ask Thomas to thrust his hands? Anyways, I know you're just finding an escape route from your lies of DECOMPOSITION, DESTROYED, DISSOLVED bullcrap

What happened to Jesus body?

Barristter07:
Olodo oshi, it's called " REPAIR " not New.

See this ignoramus calling someone Olodo...on what he has no knowledge of.

Coating rusting Steel or iron with nonrusted elements is giving it a NEW BODY

Quote me wrong.

The first Corinthians 15 said

" And what you put in the ground is not the plant that will grow, but only a bare seed of wheat or whatever you are planting.
Then God gives it the new body he wants it to have. A different plant grows from each kind of seed. "

The body sown totally grow out of existence. Returns to dust and a New one is Created from dust.

Now, you're getting brain small small!

But first, just see how ridiculous you sound, The body SOWN totally grown out of existence. RETURN TO DUST

Can something out of EXISTENCE be found again?

Now, the main point here is, if the BODY returned to DUST and a NEW BODY was formed OUT OF THE SAME DUST, isn't that proved that the same BODY THAT TURN TO DUST was the same ONE BROUGHT OUT OF DUST?

Wisdom is a principal thing.

If Jesus body was repaired (transformed ) , then it means the apostles bodies won't rot away so it can be repaired too, is that the case ? New Bodies have to be given In the likeness of Jesus ressurection. Not repaired body ...

Jesus body was transformed because it didn't see corruption.

Those who will be alive at the return of Christ their bodies will also be TRANSFORMED.

Barristter07:
" 6 I will attach tendons to you and make flesh come upon you and cover you with skin; I will put breath in you, and you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the Lord.’” Ezekiel 37:6

The life of the flesh is in the blood. That breath signifies they are now alive with blood powering the flesh.

Just as Adam .

Lying liar, inserting his own gebbrish into the scripture.

So far so good, the verse didn't talk about breath PUMPING BLOOD in their flesh, it's just your delusion.

So there is blood in Jesus fleshly BODIES when He appeared to His disciples.

because a spirit doesn't have flesh and bones.

You are now seeing how ridiculous your human glorified body theory is sounding.

They can even ressurect with the marks of the beheading, what matters is it must be patterned after the one of Christ which has wounds and scars .

Rather how foolish and unreasonable your point is, since a beheaded person won't have head after resurrection.

I ask a question: if all believers undergo first ressurection , then who are the Faithful believers ressurected alongside wicked ones in the same hour at John 5:28,29?

The people who redeemed themselves with their own blood since they are not worthy of the first resurrection and that's the end where judgement will take place.

Now, turning the table around, from that passage, the UNBELIEVERS WILL BE CONDEMNED IN THE SAME HOUR OF RESURRECTION (since they are resurrected to condemnation), so where do you see it from the scripture that after resurrection God will allow unbelievers to learn more about Him and those who refused will be destroyed again?

You and this yeye human form in heaven, human form with Blood right ? Or you mean dead bodies ?

You and this your nonsensical human turns spirit being.

Flesh and bones, living human.

haddeylium:
You caught my attention with this.
You mean a human body that Jesus has 'beyond normal human bodies' Can still have wounds, retain scars?


ok..I'm done

Do you understand what it means to be beyond normal human bodies now?

Like I told your brother, 1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion on that.

Barristter07:
Romans 6:5 in the likeness of his ressurection.

@ haydellium , I saw how you have tried to articulate your point . But what you don't know is, the individuals you are chatting with are clowns, the above post was made by Emusan, someone telling you the same body of Jesus that died was the one raised , According to Romans 6:5 if Jesus body was transformed without decay, it follows that His disciples too get transformed without decay , emphasis on " Likeness of his ressurection " but coincidentally , we found that this didn't happen, rather they return to dust of the earth . For them to have a body, they would have to be Given New Bodies. This Emusan also testified below in a post made 10:50am , December 18.



So in short , Jesus body wasnt actually transformed, it was replaced just as his apostles will get a New body in the likeness of his ressurection.

Your ignorance has no match!

If a decay body was transformed into a body that can't decay or die, isn't that A NEW BODY?

Pure iron and steel can rust in the presence of oxygen or moisture, but if the iron or steel now coated (being transformed) with nonrusted metal like silver or Tin isn't that a NEW STEEL or IRON?

Like I said, when you throw your God's giving brian for lies, this is the result.

Barristter07:
Dead bones you mean ? THEY ARE DEAD NA UNTIL BREATH OF LIFE PUMP BLOOD IN THEIR FLESH . Proving again ,WITHOUT BLOOD, YOUR HUMAN JESUS DOESN'T EXIST . It mean he is Dead

Where does it state that BREATH OF LIFE PUMP BLOOD in their flesh?

Lying liar like your father the Devil!

U saw wounds ?

That's the pattern of Jesus ressurection , believers would emulate. You see your life outside

So it also means people who their head was beheaded won't resurrect because head detached from their body.

Clown!

Again, 1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion.

No difference, This faithful ones and wicked ones undergo the same second ressurection . After the 1000 years as humans, they are tested, and Those Faithful live forever as humans ( Rev 21:3)

So if no difference, how can the same BODY who is subject to death can still live forever?

Your brain is actually paining you.

First ressurection is a Ressurection to heaven, in God's very own Divine nature as Spirit. Not every believer undergo this, If they are all taken, Who are the Faithful ones tht ressurected in the second ressurection ? John 5:28,29

First resurrection is the resurrection to heaven like Jesus in human form and ALL BELIEVERS will take part in the first resurrection. John 1:12-13

haddeylium:
We won't have this discussion if you checked the meaning of 'Depreciation'
The second car depreciated, The first car didn't.

Like I said, you're still clinging on this your intellectual dishonesty.

Something depreciate only applied to VALUE not the elements.

You've failed again here.

To destroy- To damage.
Did Jehovah Damage Jesus' Human body...No?
Jehovah create human body using Dust that contains the individual components

So Jehovah didn't DECOMPOSE Jesus body again

You See how bad it is to lie and have little knowledge about the point of discussion.

You claimed now that Jehovah didn't damage/destroy Jesus body but you said below that Jesus body was only DISSOLVED.

What does it mean to DISSOLVE something?

1 BECOME PART OF LIQUID[intransitive, transitive] if a solid dissolves, or if you dissolve it, it mixes with a liquid and becomes part of it 

2 END [transitive] to formally end a parliament, business arrangement, marriage etc The monarch had the power to dissolve parliament.

3 → dissolve into/in laughter/tears etc

4 BECOME WEAKER [intransitive, transitive] to gradually become smaller or weaker before disappearing, or to make something do this

[link=https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/dissolve]Dictionary[/link]

Your definition will either fall in category 1 or 4

Which ever one, you're still talking about DECOMPOSITION

Jesus Human body dissolves into this components like the car that was dissembled. Both didn't suffer decay or rot towards it's dissemble

You're welcome

Only God knows how many intellectual suicide you've committed on this particular point of view just because you left your God's giving brian for lies.

To dissolve is to make a SOLID (soluble) becomes part of a LIQUID (solvent) the end product of dissolve is SOLUTION.

So by using the word DISSOLVE for Jesus body means Jehovah turn it to a SOLUTION not dissembled into its constituents.


Only you have used DECOMPOSITION, DISSEMBLED, DISSOLVE.

Continue!

haddeylium:
@bold
Exactly!
That's what all human body experience except that of Jesus'!
He didn't depreciate from the original form.
There, his flesh didn't not suffer corruption or decay

But it was FINALLY depreciated from its original form by Jehovah.

Use this illustration
A Car can be disassembled into each individual components it was constructed. Towards, disassemblage, it was not corrupted or see rot. That those components can be use in the assemblage of another.
This car is not destroyed

Now, this other car get rotten over time, the metals rust, decay, the individual components fall out and ruin. You can say this car suffer corruption!

After I warned you about diving into what you have zero knowledge about, you still come up with this analogy

So where are the parts of Jesus' body kept

The car is not destroyed but you claimed the body was DECOMPOSED/Destroyed.

Why changing your mouth?

Notice among the version Emusan quoted
'His flesh will not decay'
'His flesh will not rotten'

To decay is to decompose/destroy

So what happened to Jesus body?

Jehovah kept his word and not his flesh did see rot or corruption

Didn't Jehovah destroy the body again?

You grab?
Thanks!

Do you?

Janosky:
John 17:4-5 ( compare1 Corinthians 15:44-45)
"4I have glorified You on earth by accomplishing the work You gave Me to do. 5And now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with the glory I had with You before the world existed."

Jesus Christ confirms he is going back to receive the glory in the spiritual realm as a Spirit, shame on your False,LYING claim.
Mr LIENUS

The deluded JaNosense is here with his baseless and unconnected words.