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Barristter07:
But all of them are greater than John the Baptist ? So what went wrong ??

What went wrong was that you lack understanding of that verse!

I've shown you:

1. Earth is part of God's kingdom

2. ALL BELIEVERS ARE CHILDREN OF GOD And BORN BY GODe.

3. Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.

So, If the least in God's kingdom is greater than John which you interpreted to be NOT BELONGING TO GOD'S KINGDOM then John won't be part of earth either.

Barristter07:
Go and learn the meaning of the word " Adoption "

But ALL BELIEVERS are adopted by God

"Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God" John 1:12

" For our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world powers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavens." Ephesians 6:12

Our battle is not against the sinful body . Wow

Yes not against sinful body, do you have problem with that?

Your knowledge is -0 . Don't forget you are still owing this thread how Everyone in God's kingdom is greater than John the Baptist.

As you have absolute zero sense!

Just as you're own this thread WHO IS THE FLESH who born the people on earth...

That was an " Error" explanation , remember ?

Go back to my post this time with your glasses!

Jozzy4:
If it doesn't , Jesus doesn't have God's nature since he has flesh and bones.

And I guess you lost your sight to have seen where I wrote, The Nature of God is house by the human nature!

Humans have flesh and blood, Genesis 5:2

Who denied this

Clearly Revelation 21:3,4 is for the earth.

That's why they have been asking you to explain if John the Baptist want enter God's kingdom. God's kingdom In 1 Cor 15:50 refer to heavenly abode.

But earth is also part of God's kingdom!

Shameless liar, so God's kingdom now has different meanings.

When it suits your lying it means heavenly abode but IN GENERAL GOD'S KINGDOM is means God's rule.

John the Baptist will be in God's kingdom as the rest of righteous people.

So Jesus didn't know they have human Father's before, The point is God is ready to adopt them as his sons, having the same divine nature as he has. Spirit.

But ALL BELIEVERS ARE ADOPTED GOD'S CHILDREN

So how come they have flesh instead of having the same divine nature as Spirit? When God doesn't have flesh?

If you want to use the word born of God wrongly or in the general context, u will get burnt ... Cos every human good or bad are called child of God.

As usual only the lying liar JWs have right to use Bible words the way they feel like but no one else has the right.

If it suits them BORN of God means to have divine nature like God but when you point to them that ALL BELIEVERS are BORN OF GOD then, it must have different meanings.

Deluded people!

Arrogant Maxmumu!

MaxInDHouse:
That's the answer but some will be in heaven and the rest will be on earth under God's Kingdom!

On what criteria will some be in heaven and some on earth?

Before, Satan disrupted the peace both in heaven and on earth so those born again Christians will go and live in heaven to rule the earth from there,

Was there any BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS in heaven before your father Devil distrupted heaven peace?

but all are under God's direction where there won't be any more disruption again.

So what is the essence of BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS in heaven when heaven wasn't created for human in the first place?

John will be part of those who will inherit the earth {Matthew 5:5} while the first set of resurrected ones will go with Jesus and become Spirit persons forever! Matthew 5:3

So you finally agreed that FLESH AND BLOOD will inherit God's kingdom.

Barristter07:
Will John the Baptist be in God's kingdom ??

ALL believers will be in God's kingdom!

Jozzy4:
There is nothing deluded in his post,

Says another deluded JWs!

Spirit which is God's nature doesn't have flesh and bones. Stop speaking from both sides of your mouth

Then who says God's nature has flesh and bones

Mr No sense

Jesus said From Flesh . They have human father's , so they remain humans.

So the people who will rule with Christ in heaven doesn't have human fathers...

No wonder you people will proof to us that you're senseless.

He even quoted Revelation 21:3 and 4 for you.

Then since Rev 21:3-4 says human will live under God's kingdom, then 1 Corinthians 15:50 doesn't mean Christ can't resurrect with body and go to heaven or human with flesh and bones can't be in heaven.

because that's one of the verse you deluded people always use.

This however doesn't mean they ain't children of God too in the normal sense, but they are not adopted as Spirit sons. A nature like the God of heaven.

Ode...

If what is born of spirit is spirit and ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN BY GOD who is a spirit, doesn't that make ALL believers to be spirit beings?

Let me show you how absurd your reasoning is:

He claimed, Christ resurrected as a spirit being which then makes those who'll rule with him to be spirit beings as well "since BORN OF SPIRIT is spirit"

And then I asked him, who is the SPIRIT that will born these people?

He said God!

Then I went further to ask, born of Flesh are flesh, then who is this FLESH. (I'm still waiting for his answer on that) but in helping him you said "Because they have human fathers"

Didn't those who you claim to become SPIRIT BEINGS also have human fathers?

Whereas, from the scripture, ALL BELIEVERS are BORN OF GOD. In fact, the very thing that makes us to be BORN of God is to BELIEVE that Jesus is THE CHRIST.

Barristter07:
Humans are flesh and blood, Mr error ...

Mr No sense...

So those who will rule with Christ in your delusion heaven aren't human before

Why would Revelation 21:3,4 say humans will live forever under God's kingdom.??

Error personified ... Emusan

Your understanding is flawed.

I just want to show you how senseless your claim of "flesh and blood can't be part of God's kingdom" means Jesus can't resurrect with flesh and bones.

So from scripture, flesh and blood can't inherit kingdom of God doesn't mean human won't be there but our frail and sinful body is what that verse meant.

I still demand you to explain how the least person is greater than John , if he would be in God's kingdom

I have done that, which means you are blind to see it then!

MaxInDHouse:
ARGUEMENTATIVE Emusan!

You can continue crying for all i care!

Go and ask PhDs they'll confirm my words, that
both Rebellion, willfully disobedience and challenge of authority all means the same thing, you're just blabbing like your brother!

ARROGANT Maxmumu!

Imagine when scripture where Rebellion was totally differentiated from disobedience were even quoted for you.

Why should I ask PhD holder when you can simply just post online dictionary meaning of Rebellion so that we can see?

I guess you're waiting for watchtower to dish out their own concorted dictionary before you can present it here.

Barristter07:
Don't you think your understanding is the error ??
The same reason you called John the Baptist the least person. You have problem

Will God kingdom be on Earth?

Jws: Yes!

Will Flesh and blood be part of the Kingdom of God?

Jws: No!

Will people who are flesh and blood live forever on earth where kingdom of God will be?

Jws: Yes

Confused JWs!

Barristter07:
God's nature does not have flesh and bones. Liarr

Says the deluded JWs!

Hahahahahaha Janosky o, Action Movie ,

Which Bible talk this one ? Trinitarians are scammers.

Your demonic translation!

One thing is certain those born of Spirit, will become SPIRIT beings. . that's all We needed here , the same nature Jesus have after his ressurection.

And those born of flesh will become flesh!

Then who born these ones who will become flesh?

While the otherz that will live forever on Earth are Called " Human beings " Rev 21:3,4 . Earth is there home.

Then who born these others or from what were they born from?

Also, 1 Corinthians 15:50 says "Flesh and blood will not be part of kingdom of God"

MaxInDHouse:
I never argued about the challenge of authority

Arrogant Maxmumu is still arguing instead for him to just respect himself.

So you never say "Rebellion means challenge of Authority" and you boldly lied you said so.

but what i'm saying is both means the same thing!

Both will never mean the same thing stop lying.

Even in the Bible which you even tried to twist, REBELLION is totally different from other sin.

If authority is challenged it simply means someone who knows the rule is willfully going against it, and they're both the same as rebellion!

Stop lying, accept simple truth. Stop acting as if you know it all.

REBELLION and WILLFUL DISOBEDIENCE are never mean the same thing.

NIV: To his sin he adds rebellion; scornfully he claps his hands among us and multiplies his words against God.” Job 34:37

NIV: “The Mighty One, God, the Lord! The Mighty One, God, the Lord! He knows! And let Israel know! If this has been in rebellion or disobedience to the Lord, do not spare us this day. Joshua 22:22


See how you're exposing your lying mouth!

AkinwaleJJ:
I need not waste my precious time exchanging words with another dullard. As for the highlighted Jesus who never got married nor have a single child of his own will be called the "Everlasting Father" of all those who through his counsel became Obedient to God! Isai 9:6

Smile....says the deluded person who didn't know rebellion isn't willful disobedience.

Did I say Jesus isn't an EVERLASTING FATHER or Jesus has a wife while on earth

MaxInDHouse:
I told you that rebellion simply means willful disobedience or challenge of authority, you're still arguing blindly. 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9
Another neutral commentator told you the truth even though the English is simple and easy yet you're still trying to claim right.

Sorry is your name Sir!

Arrogant Maxmumu!

The lying liar!

I challenge you to provide where you said "Rebellion means CHALLENGE OF AUTHORITY" in any of your post on this thread

After he schooled of about the meaning of rebellion, you're now changing mouth that you said rebellion MEANS CHALLENGE OF AUTHORITY when you never mentioned that in the first place.

AkinwaleJJ:
He's an attention seeker!

He's an attention seeker for teaching your brother simple English.

Can you provide DICTIONARY MEANING of the word "Rebellion", let's see if it's WILLFUL disobedience.

At first he couldn't grasp that all obedient descendants of Adam became adopted children of Jesus,

So ALL obedient descendants of Adam became ADOPTED CHILDREN OF JESUS, which means they were ALL BORN BY JESUS.

How come the people who will live forever on earth are ALL FLESH AND BLOOD?

then he didn't even know what rebellion means.

Give us the dictionary meaning of rebellion, let's see what it means

That's how he'll continue jumping from one thing to another just to prove he's around!

Hypocrite!

Aren't you people jumping around too.

achorladey:
New testament was written for 144,000 alone as it seems in the theology of JWs.

Galatians 3: 26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Should we ask them are they the SONS of Abraham? Do they belong to Christ? Or they disown themselves like the Pharisees did in John 8: 37 downwards even when Jesus told them they are sons of Abraham

That's what happened when a person is following wrong doctrines.

The Bible is very cleared that Believers are ALL born of God even Born of Christ

So I wonder who will born the people who will live forever on earth who are FLESH and BLOOD when both God and Christ whom ALL believers born from are spirits!

And another funny wrong understanding of the scripture is when they rush to 1 Corin 15:50 which says "Flesh and blood will not have part in the kingdom of God" to claim Christ can't resurrect bodily but forgotten that EARTH IS PART OF GOD'S KINGDOM where flesh and blood will still live forever.

Something must wrong somewhere!

Barristter07:
U can't claim Jesus exist in God's nature and have flesh and bones. U are damn confused
God's nature/form , Does it have flesh and bones ??

So Jesus is now "IT"

God's nature in Christ is still covered by the glorified human nature, the human nature will be done away with after Christ has subdued everything and handed over back to His Father so that "God will be ALL in ALL"

Your tactics to dodge this question won't work, I know your style!

so when will this happened before they died or when they resurrected?

You see the reason I said you lost your senses since.

By the way, who will BORN THE FLESH THAT WILL LIVE FOREVER ON EARTH?

You already agreed that it's God who BORN THOSE WHO ARE SPIRIT.

ADD:

Scriptural truth is that ALL believers are BORN BY GOD

John 1:12 NLT: "But to ALL WHO BELIEVED him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God.

CJB: But to AS MANY AS DID RECEIVE HIM, to those who put their trust in his person and power, he gave the right to become children of God"

In fact, this particular one finally put your lying mouth in a kin.

Everyone who believes that Jesus is THE CHRIST is BORN OF GOD, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well. 1 John 5:1

So everybody will be a spirit being since they will ALL be BORN of God.

Janosky:
Bros why do you quote 1 John 5:1?

To show you that [b]"Believing that JESUS is THE CHRIST makes you to be BORN of God"

And if ALL BELIEVERS are born of God who is a SPIRIT then WHAT IS BORN OF SPIRIT IS SPIRIT according to your deluded brother.

That means NOBODY WILL LIVE ON EARTH AS FLESH!

According to Emusan the son Jesus is the Father ,God.

Where did I claim that The Son Jesus is the FATHER?

Mr No sense!

Matthew 5:3,5 "the meek shall inherit the earth" (according to Jesus Christ) = 2 Peter3:13.
The Bros get SENSE pass Jesus Christ, for him mind

.[/b]

And the same spirit of Christ through Apostle Paul says "Flesh and blood can't have part in the kingdom of God"

You know pass the Spirit?

Mr No sense!

Barristter07:
Like I sajd, God's nature doesn't have flesh and bones. Since you claim Jesus have flesh and bones , it means He doesn't have God's nature.

Jesus has always existed in God's nature

It's this very nature that you people still confused about.

Your tactics to dodge this question won't work, I know your style!

so when will this happened before they died or when they resurrected?

You see the reason I said you lost your senses since.

By the way, who will BORN THE FLESH THAT WILL LIVE FOREVER ON EARTH?

You already agreed that it's God who BORN THOSE WHO ARE SPIRIT.

ADD:

Scriptural truth is that ALL believers are BORN BY GOD

John 1:12 "NLT: But to ALL WHO BELIEVED him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God.

CJB: But to AS MANY AS DID RECEIVE HIM, to those who put their trust in his person and power, he gave the right to become children of God,

In fact, this particular one finally put your lying mouth in a kin.

Everyone who believes that Jesus is THE CHRIST is BORN OF GOD, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well. 1 John 5:1

MaxInDHouse:
John is excluded in the kingdom of heavens Sir!

Provide the verse that says so!

By the way we're still at 1 Corinthians 15:50 which says "FLESH AND BLOOD can't inherit the kingdom of God"

Which means no FLESH AND BLOOD will live forever on earth, since earth is part of God's kingdom.

MaxInDHouse:
The next thing now is for Emusan to disappear and resurface later only to pick up cheap arguements again!

So you think everyone is jobless as you do by parading up and down on Nairaland.

Barristter07:
Jesus is not in God's nature since he has flesh and bones.

He has ALWAYS EXISTED in God's nature....

How many times will I knocked that into your

So been born again happen when someone is ressurected, you Sha wan prove to me say you don't have sense

So is it not at RESURRECTION this CHANGING FROM HUMAN TO SPIRIT WILL HAPPEN?

Which is why you said they'll be IN LIKENESS of CHRIST.

I've forgotten you list your sense since.

Fact is They will become spirit beings just as Jesus .

so when will this happened before they died or when they resurrected? You see the reason I said you lost your senses since.

By the way, who will BORN THE FLESH THAT WILL LIVE FOREVER ON EARTH?

Barristter07:
You have make many errors on this thread.

And you couldn't point them out!

More reasons your words can't be taken Serious,

because one deluded JWs says so!

That's just one. Okay explain the verse since we now know John isn't the least .

Barnes' Notes on the Bible
Among them that are born of women - This is an emphatic way of saying that there "had never" been a greater "man" than John. See Job 14:1.

He that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he - The phrase "kingdom of heaven" is used in many senses. See the notes at Matthew 3:2. It here probably means, "in preaching the kingdom of God," or the gospel. It could hardly be affirmed of the obscurest and most ignorant Christian that he had clearer views than Isaiah or John; but of the apostles of the Saviour, of the first preachers who were with him and who heard his instructions, it might be said that they had more correct apprehensions than any of the ancient prophets, or than John.

Barristter07:
God's nature (Spirit being ) doesn't have flesh and blood.

Then who says God's nature have flesh and bones?

God is the Spirit that born them, that's why they are called Adopted sons of the Father.


They will become Spirit like their Father. Just as Jesus too ...

Now, that's interesting!

So it's not RESURRECTION AGAIN it's now BORN!

So God BORN CHRIST again when He was resurrected?

Now, who is the person who BORN THE FLESH on earth?

Barristter07:
Show me John is the least person ? U are in trouble today . I need where he said John is the least person.

Of course, that should tell you it was an error!

No where scripture says John is the least and no where scripture says he wasn't in the kingdom of God.

Barristter07:
"the least in the kingdom of God is greater than he." Luke 7:28

Bullet breeze don blow, foul yansh have open.

But I didn't see John isn't in the Kingdom of God here!

Barristter07:
at least we know he doesn't have God's nature. Wahala for Trinity

Jesus has always existed in God's nature.

Abi wahala for you idol worshippers.

The bold is the relevant thing to this discussion , Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones, so Jesus and the heavenly ones are not flesh and bones.

No wonder you can't answer simple questions

Here again:

But they were BORN BY THE SPIRIT before they
become SPIRIT, who is this SPIRIT that born them?

But they were BORN BY FLESH before they become FLESH, who is that FLESH that born them?

You'll continue to hide from the questions forever on earth.

Barristter07:
I dey love this


You lied John is the least person, since everyone else is greater. Jesus bursted you and said he isn't even there , cos the least person is greater than he is. Definitely he isn't there.

See awkward reasoning for God's sake!

So because John is the least person MEANS HE ISNT THERE!

Does a LEAST PERSON IN CLASS MEANS THE PERSON ISN'T PART OF THAT CLASS?

Barristter07:
Liar , is John the least person ??


Emusan don cast

Yes! John is the least person IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD

Where did Jesus say John won't be part of God's kingdom is the question I'm asking?

Or you don't have Bible with you?

Barristter07:
If Jesus is in God's nature, then he is not flesh and bones. Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones.

So you agree with Jesus when He said that which is a proof of Him resurrected with BODY

@bold.
Like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly ... spirit beings

But they were BORN BY THE SPIRIT before they become SPIRIT, who is this SPIRIT?

But they were BORN BY FLESH before the become FLESH, who is that FLESH?

Barristter07:
Genesis 5:2 the title human was given to Flesh and blood.

Revelation 21:3,4 said HUMANS will live forever on Earth.

Attacking strawman again!

This is my post address it well

Where did Jesus say John will not be in the Kingdom of God?

Another erroneous interpretation.

Jesus didn't say John WILL NOT BE in the Kingdom of God but ANYONE WHO MAKES IT TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD is greater than John.

Olodo....
Go for Bible study you no gree

By the way, no people will live forever on earth since FLESH AND BLOOD can't inherit kingdom of God.

Barristter07:
The least person, the least person, the least person ... Is greater , going by your analogy, John is the least person . You are a Liar.

So the least person MEANS WILL NOT BE PART OF HEAVENLY KINGDOM.

Your brain is definitely paining you!

Show me where Jesus said John won't enter the kingdom of God from that verse liar

Barristter07:
Spirit nature can't add flesh and bones. Spirit does not.

Jesus is not in God's nature. U don enter

See this liar @bold and this is the same person who have been shouting that Jesus (a spirit) borrowed different BODIES

Jesus has always existed in God's nature.

Devil shifts yansh for your lie.

Am concerned about the Fact they what the spirit born , will become SPIRIT. Do u disagree ?

I agree that what Spirit born is Spirit and what flesh born is flesh

So who is that spirit?
Who is that flesh?