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haddeylium:
We're both reaching conclusion based on the much will know.

But we didn't see the conclusion you're reaching.

You believe he didn't suffer corruption by raising up exactly with human body he was killed with.

That's what the scripture says.

corruption is an English word which is polysemic
I compared with the original meaning and showed you it means-His flesh didn't worsen, smell, or depreciate from his pure.

But to see corruption is to decompose/destroyed

So if Jesus' body won't see corruption then it must means it won't be DESTROYED by any means in the first place.

See how different translations put Acts 2:31

AMPC: "He, foreseeing this, spoke [by foreknowledge] of the resurrection of the Christ (the Messiah) that He was not deserted [in death] and left in Hades (the state of departed spirits), nor did His body know decay or see destruction."

CSB: Seeing what was to come, he spoke concerning the resurrection of the Messiah: He was not abandoned in Hades, and his flesh did not experience decay.

CEB: Having seen this beforehand, David spoke about the resurrection of Christ, that he wasn’t abandoned to the grave, nor did his body experience decay.

CJB: he was speaking in advance about the resurrection of the Messiah, that it was he who was not abandoned in Sh’ol and whose flesh did not see decay.

CEV: David knew this would happen, and so he told us that Christ would be raised to life. He said that God would not leave him in the grave or let his body decay.

GNT: David saw what God was going to do in the future, and so he spoke about the resurrection of the Messiah when he said, ‘He was not abandoned in the world of the dead; his body did not rot in the grave.’

PHILLIPS: He foresaw the resurrection of Christ, and it is this of which he is speaking. Christ was not deserted in death and his body was never destroyed.

We can all see from here that, corruption/decay/decomposition/destroy is what the verse is talking about.

And the key point here is that the BODY won't "EXPERIENCE/SEE"

So for God to later DECOMPOSE/DESTROY Jesus body means the prophesy of David is a lie.

The implication of your words is that:
Jesus returned to that corruptible body that gets tired, can be pierced, or killed!
God's word says 'Jesus is never to return to corruption" ?

You were saying?

Lack of scriptural understanding made you uttered that @bolden part.

Resurrection is about sowed in corruption and reap in incorruptible. Which means the flesh now being transformed beyond normal human bodies that decay and died.

Barristter07:
E Pain am
So y'all have been pushing a dead Jesus agenda all this while .

Does a human under surgery a dead human being the lying liar?

Barristter07:
.Have made my point. U can clinch to your ignorance. What matters is the word Spirit or spirits is neither male or female.

Just as I've made mine and you can keep living in your delusions.

No, to be human, it must be energized by Blood. Or else it's dead.

Hebrew 2:14

" Because God’s children are human beings—made of flesh and blood —the Son also became flesh and blood. " NLT

Leviticus 17:14 made that point. Is the Bible an empty skull ?

Lying liar...

LIFE was only in the BLOOD, Ezekiel talks about DRYING BONES which are human without blood.

Here is that Glorified body , emphasis on the word " Pattern " . Am so happy you used that word Finally

They told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he replied, “I won’t believe it unless I see the nail wounds in his hands, put my fingers into them, and place my hand into the wound in his side.”

" Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and look at my hands. Put your hand into the wound in my side. Don’t be faithless any longer. Believe!” John 20:25,27

So ressurected ones will retain wounds , hunch backs, accident scars, fire burned skins. What a Glorified body .

See Jesus describing His human body yet a deluded JWs claiming He's not human.

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion on that.

Ever heard of " second death " ?

I doubt . People will be ressurected as humans, male and Females , both good and bad , and those who fail the final test will die again. While the Faithful believers Live forever ( Revelation 21:3)

@bold...very laughable, on what condition will faithful believers live FOREVER when they have the same resurrection like those experiencing second death?

Something must make their own resurrection different from those who will fail the final test....you'll see how you'll rope yourself into more trouble now.

Only those going to heaven to share God's divine nature as Spirit won't be affected by second death.

ALL BELIEVERS won't be affected by the second death because Jesus would have come for ALL HIS SAINTS at first resurrection.

Barristter07:
Is a dead human . No doubt ( even the link you screenshotted said the blood must be returned )

See the brain dead person declaring a human under surgery dead.

To tell you that resurrected body are different from the normal human body now.

The resurrected bodies wont:

1. Feel hungry again
2. Neither thirst any more
3. Neither need the Sun nor any HEAT

These three things are essential for human body but for God to say we won't need this no more means there will be drastic change to our resurrected body.

Barristter07:
That actual word " Represented " them.

You're still lying!

You can't twist this one, here is your statement again "SPIRIT persons (plural) are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

It's evident from this statement that what you have in mind is THEIR PERSONS not that actual word spirit!

He is a Dead human. Life is in the blood, Any human without Blood is Dead, Dust!!!

So if flesh and bones can be energized through other means without blood(life is in the blood) can it still be called human?

Humans are Flesh and Blood . Without blood, they are dead.

2Samuel 19:12


" You are my brothers; you are my bone and my flesh. Why then should you be the last to bring back the king?’ [ "

A brain dead human like You would say because the text said Flesh and bones, the individuals don't have blood? For an human to be called a Living person, they require BLOOD.

If Jesus doesn't have Blood, then he is a dead man. ( Lev 17:14). Good you even bring up the case of a dead Lazarus... Any flesh without blood is Dead !!! Focus point

When Lazarus ressurected as Human, His blood was restored. It's essential.

An empty skull person like you has already says LIFE is in the blood.

Can the flesh and bones be called human if another thing energized the body?

Jesus is human now in heaven, a flesh and bones is human.

No single sense , Jesus ressurected as flesh and bones , forgetin he has wounds , yet you could use the word " Pattern, " So I was correct all this while that Scars and wounds would be retained on ressurected ones body.

As you have lost your thinking faculty.

We will be patterned AFTER JESUS Glorified body
And again, 1 Corinthians 15:38 is to cure your delusion on that.

Ressurection as Humans won't alter the Asian, American, African looks and varieties, Lazarus that died was the one that came out. His appearance didn't change , he also retain his Male sex , So as far as humans are concerned, varieties exist . And they are Male and Females. ( Rev 21:3 , Genesis 5:2)

But IN CHRIST JESUS there is no Jews or Greek, male or female but we're ALL ONE.

So you believe that type of Lazarus resurrection is the type of resurrection that people will have.

Where is Lazarus today because after resurrection people won't die again.

Clown!

Baptism into Christ like that Romans I gave you explain is a baptism that enable the bearer share in the likeness of Jesus ressurection . His very Divine nature as Spirit beings. No male or female...

Are you baptized INTO CHRIST?

Now the lying liar wants to tell us that there's two different baptism INTO CHRIST.

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for your time Sir!

You don't need to! Just keep shut since you can't tell me the God you invoke to Bless me.

haddeylium:
Check the picture for the strong meaning!

Read slowly for understanding
I'm not in debate for if the end product is decomposition or not.

You're not in debate for if the END PRODUCT is DECOMPOSITION....

Can you see your hypocrisy here

According to the strong meaning of the word used..
All human body suffer 'Corruption' - By growing worse, getting into ruin, spoiling.

THE WORD corruption itself is DECOMPOSITION

Saying Jesus body didn't suffer CORRUPTION is to say it didn't DECOMPOSE, can you get it?

So if you say Jesus' body was decomposed/corrupted by God means Jesus body underwent CORRUPTION.

But Jesus body didn't experience any of this to attain dissolution. So, His Flesh didn't experience corruption.


Thanks for your time!

You're still committing intellectual dishonesty!

Dissolution/decompositionc/corruption are still the same thing.

For God to decompose Jesus' body means God CORRUPTED the body.

For you to get the clear picture, substitute CORRUPTION in any place you use decomposition/dissolution e.t.c

Even scientifically, nothing undergone decomposition without ruin/rot because chemical reaction must take place but the process can be QUICK or SLOW!

So to say something decomposed is to say the thing gets corrupted.

Thank you!

haddeylium:
The Greek word a·phthar·siʹa translated to 'Corrupt' means something to get spoilt, to bring lower to it's inferior state!

Now, you've rush to Greek

Besides, you're lying the Greek word used for corruption in Acts 2:27,31; 13:34,35,36,37 in reference to Christ body is "Diaphthora" from "diaphtheiro" which means DECAY:...corruption

So which either way you look at it, it's still DECOMPOSITION.

Yes! The Bible teaches Jesus flesh didn't undergo this process

But you still claim God decomposed Jesus body which is still the same as DECAY....CORRUPTION.

Thank you and thanks for your time

So next time use your God given sense and not use watchtower knowledge to disrupt scientific knowledge.

Barristter07:
Spirit persons are Spirits . Reffering to the word

You can't twist this one, here is your statement again "SPIRIT persons (plural) are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

It's evident from this statement that what you have in mind is THEIR PERSONS not that actual word spirit!

So far they are humans . They are Creatures of flesh and blood, Lazarus ressurected, so as others, ressurection as Human is human. Flesh and blood.

You always bring point that do drag you into mud the more.

So was Lazarus human in the grave in that four days without BLOOD or not?

Anthropormorphism is when you apply human traits to non humans. Since you confess those at Revelation 21:3 Are actually humans. Your anthropormophic lies earlier was exposed

Did you understand when I talk about anthropomorphic? I guess you don't.

Yes they are human!

So its either the case of Jesus As u stated it, is an anthropormorphism or he is actually human with flesh and blood. You have to pick one ...

Funny how he keeps using the phrase FLESH AND BLOOD just because his tiny brain couldn't go beyond that.

Jesus is human with flesh and bones, which is the same body all believers will have after resurrection.

Just as you said above, Lazarus came back to life as HUMAN not as spirit being that's what resurrection is all about.

The earth he has given to humans. Psalm 115:17

Then who says it wasn't given to humans?

That Galatians was reffering to those with heavenly everlasing life. it says those baptized INTO Christ ?

Are you not baptized INTO CHRIST?

Are ALL BELIEVERS don't baptize INTO CHRIST.

Romans 6:3,5 " All of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death ? ...if we have become United with him in the likeness of his death, we will certainly also be United with him in the likeness of his ressurection "

This verse is for ALL BELIEVERS, not baptized INTO CHRIST means you're not of Christ.

Jesus ressurected as a Spirit, so are these ones.
In that kind of ressurection , there is neither male or female , Jew or Greek . Like the heavenly one (Jesus ) so too are those who are heavenly, not those on Earth.

Jesus resurrected as human with flesh and bones and that's the pattern of resurrection ALL BELIEVERS will have since IN CHRIST there's no male or female.

So you means after resurrection people who will live forever on earth will still be Jew, Greek, Nigerian and American....

You're a clown.

Either you agree , or push your human agenda and contradict scripture. Cos if the likeness of Jesus ressurection is human, then there will be male and Female .

IN CHRIST there's no male or female!

Are you in Christ?

Will you live forever on earth or you'll be in heaven?

And it pleased him to Fashion it after the Glorious body of Christ Phil 3:21. Does it have wounds and scars ? Hunchback people sef go retain theirs, accident victims too . Na wa for una

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion!

MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES aren't your enemies Mr Emusan,

And where did I say they are my enemies

Mr Maximumu

all we are saying is "if you want to be a worshiper of our God you must adhere to the same rules as we do"

And when did I say I want to be a worshiper of you god?

All I'm asking for which I don't know what is so difficult there to mention, is WHICH GOD did you invoke to Bless me when you know your OWN god can't bless me?

Which will safe us from all this back and forth jamboree.

This your i hate them because they hate us attitude will never get you anywhere.

Only someone with a heart full of hatred knows another person harboring hate.

You can provide where I made that statement.

I know there's nothing you can't resort to when your demonic doctrines are put under scrutinizing.

Jehovah's Witnesses are against false worship not you in person, it's you that's carrying the fight on your head yet you can't present the religion (group) you're working with!

Just as I'm against false doctrine and twisting of God's word. so you can only be disturbed when the word of God is against your doctrines.

Let me know where the scripture says we should present GROUP we're working with.

haddeylium:
The point is , His body as foretold didn't suffer corruption towards its decomposition into the constituents elements he was made of.
All the body that dies usually get decay, grow worse, deterioted from the original pure form it was made of.

When your ignorance is being pointed out instead of your to sit and learn you're still displaying your illiteracy the more.

CORRUPTION itself is decomposition, it can be SLOW or QUICK.

Saying Jesus body didn't suffer corruption towards its decomposition it's gross intellectual disorder.

Seems you know about science. I'm not so much of a nerd.

I'm a science student both in theory and practical.

When Iron bar rust/decay/melt it loses it original pure form it was made from towards it decomposition

DECAY/MELT/RUST are all decomposition/corruption which can be SLOW or QUICK depending on the process.

When you know you're not so vast in science why can't you keep your mouth shut

This is a public disgrace even something a grade 1 science student know.

Iron bar wasn't made from original pure iron form in the first place.

But when it's melt/dissolve, it still retain its elements that he can mode back into that iron bar.

By dissolving it means chemical reaction (decomposition) has taken place.

So is Jesus, his flesh decomposition (corruption)still retain the pure form of it constituents elements thereby Not suffering CORRUPTION

Thanks

I inserted that @color bracket to show you how absurd your statement is.

You're trying to say that decomposition is different from CORRUPTION whereas inline with the point of view corruption and decomposition are the same thing.

So if you can substitute corruption in the place where you use decomposition you will see how you're deceiving and confusing yourself.

All this is because you neglected your brain for watchtower delusion.

MaxInDHouse:
[s]The post is still there Sir, just as those murderous mob rushed at our brother (Stephen) because they were bitterfly enflamed by his comments {Act 7:57} so you can only close your heart, you can't stop others from getting the sense of that post!
As for my own God his blessings is for everyone { it's left to you to either claim it like Cornelius and Zacchaeus Luke 19:2-9; Act 10:4,24-26 or reject it like the Pharisees and Sadducees! John 10:32-33[/s]

Again, nonsensical as its out of point.

If you want to receive the blessings from our own God all you need to do is humbly listen and learn from us, that's the only way you can receive his blessings!

Then WHICH GOD do you invoke to Bless me, since your OWN god can't bless me unless I humbly listen and learn from his zombi.e.s

That's the question!

haddeylium:
Lol.
let me simplify this
When something decay or suffer corruption; It grow worse, deteriorate, and get weaken towards decomposition. Like when iron rust.

At the end, it's still decay just that in this way it experiences SLOW DECOMPOSITION.

But Jesus body didn't suffer this corruption; His body was dissolved into constituent elements he was made of.
Like when water was dissolved and separated into Hydrogen and Oxygen

Thanks!

Ignorance everywhere, this shows you're not a science student but just using watchtower nonsense interpretation.

WATER CAN'T BE DISSOLVED!!!

Water is a SOLUTION ALREADY and you can only dissolve SOLID in solutions.

Rather water can be separated through a RIGOROUS PROCESS that can be QUICK or SLOW.

But the end result of corruption( as used for what Jesus body won't experience) is decomposition in any form.

So how would God say Jesus body won't decompose(throu slow decomposition) but the same God went ahead to decompose(using quick decomposition) the body?

Is still one of the seventh wonders of JWs!

To even think that Jesus' body (solid) needs a solutions (probably acid because ordinary water can dissolve body) before it can be dissolved.

Or we can then say, Jesus isn't the ONLY person whose body didn't experience corruption since some humans body have been DISSOLVED through Alkaline hydrolysis.

A New Way to Dispose of Corpses—With Chemistry!

Alkaline hydrolysis is a clean, green method for dissolving a body into its chemical building blocks; the runny remains just wash down the drain.

https://www.wired.com/story/alkaline-hydrolysis-liquid-biocremation/

Barristter07:
Won't unbelievers mortal bodies come alive too by virtue of God's spirit ?

Says the deluded JWs!

Barristter07:
Consider the word " Spirits ".

Liar, where do SPIRITS(plural) appear in your statement?

You can't twist this one, here is your statement again "SPIRIT persons (plural) are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

It's evident from this statement that what you have in mind is THEIR PERSONS not that actual word spirit!

Now that the masculine gender was used for the spirit person of Jesus which then makes Him to be HUMAN.

" With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them.+ 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes,+ and death will be no more, + neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.+ The former things have passed away.”

The persons spoken of here have been dying before, Are this spirits or humans ? Or God died?

They are human of resurrection!

Revelation 21:3 is not anthropomorphic , it's reffering to human beings.

Then who says they are not humans beings before

The point your deluded mind can't phantom is, claiming that the word translated as HUMAN in that verse makes them FLESH AND BLOOD is nonsensical when the same word was used for spirit persons which you later twist to be anthropomorphic usage when your lies are exposed.

So you are still yet to provide the proof of where the Elders are called Humans ?

If the word translated as Human has never been used for a FLESH AND BLOOD being but ONLY FOR a SPIRIT BEING, will you have said the person the word is applied to is a FLESH AND BLOOD?

Humans are forever made male and Females.

And since masculine gender is used for Jesus after His resurrection, then Jesus remains a Male in heaven.

Proved there is no male or Female in Heaven. Like the heavenly one ( Christ ) , so too are those who are heavenly. The heavenly ressurection is not as humans.

Then there won't be male or female IN earth since IN CHRIST there's no male or female.

Unless you tell us those who will live forever on earth are not IN CHRIST.

Human bodies that retain Scars and wounds , human bodies that are male and female .

Am glad you can't counter it, sorry 1 Corinthians 15:38 doesn't say it won't be fashioned like tht of Christ which has wounds.

Again, 1 Corinthians 15:38 will cure your delusion!

MaxInDHouse:
[b][s]The highlighted!
Your religious groups must have taught you that blessings means possessing material things but that's not the blessings our God gives today!
The greatest blessing anyone can receive from my own God is the opportunity given to all as we locate your doors with the message of hope from our God. Romans 10:15
Whoever rejects our message is throwing away his/her own portion of the blessing our own God is distributing to all! Matthew 10:11-15
Satan's agents can't copy that because there is no substance in what they're carrying up and down that's why no other religious group has the boldness to knock on people's doors rather they'll stand in the market place or public buses shouting without a particular audience in mind. Matthew 12:19
Only JWs have the truth that's why we come to your homes directly so that you may choose whether to receive the blessing or reject it. Your shouting in the buses or streets gives no one the chance to ask you questions. There is no way to ascertain who heard you because you never face anyone directly to present your messages unlike JWs who will present our message. That's why all of you are merging up not because you want to preach anything tangible but to show yourselves as those who have rejected the blessings from our God.
Cornelius has been trying all his best to come close to our God, note what God's word say about the blessings this Roman received, he was given the opportunity to hear our message and because his heart is already prepared for the good news, Cornelius received it with great joy.
My saying "God bless you" is to keep praying for you so that you can wake up from this pigheadedness, that's why we don't need to speak with those who have been in our midst but left to criticize us (Apostates).
To us you are just like those stoning Stephen, my brother prayed for them and God answered, that's why Paul was blessed because he was doing all those things out of misdirected zeal.
So if you too are doing all this out of zeal without accurate knowledge our prayer to JEHOVAH is to bless you with many more years, perhaps you can see reasons to stop fighting against the truth.
Many like you fought with all their hearts against the JWs but later came back with hearts full of regrets to say "i'm sorry" of course we will rejoice with such ones and tell them "we know you did all that out of ignorance"[/s]

Cry of a deluded soul.

So Emusan may God bless you!

Which God are you INVOKING to bless me, if your OWN God can't bless me?

That's the crucial point.

Barristter07:
The same Spirit within them will bring unbelievers to life , so ?

So, both unbelievers and believers are going to heaven then since they have the same spirit of God.

Number one , that translation established it that those whose bodies were given life all have the spirit of God in them. So in short unbelievers have Spiritual bodies

Okay back to your rants, the Mortal bodies uses blood to function, Do you agree ?

"The THOSE....and ....ALL HAVE THE SPIRIT OF GOD in THEM"

Do you mean Apostle Paul included unbelievers in that statement?

The Bodies will be energized by the Holy Spirit...

Ode....

Barristter07:
The point is clear

That "SPIRIT persons (plural) are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

Numbers 23:19 God is not Human.

The anthropomorphic point is clear.

Those mentioned at Revelation 21:3 are humans.

God is not A MAN, that He should lie...

The word MAN (flesh and blood) was used for God.

Those mentioned at Rev 21:3 are anthropomorphic, the point is clear.

Yes. Except when it's Spirit beings ..

Anthropomorphic usage.

Can you see your lying mouth, Ole...

So you know vividly that the word MAN can be used for spirit beings without flesh and blood yet you're ranting up and down since.

Then Rev 21:3 must be anthropomorphic usage also.

Angels don't reproduce or marry, the purpose of Genders is to procreate ...

Liar the purpose is gender isn't to procreate, even the usage of gender differs from culture to culture.

" He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them "Mankind" when they were created. "

The blessing was to multiply
.so my point stands

And didn't human procreating now

When you get the verse that call them human, we will talk.

The verse full Revelation as the word TRANSLATED AS ELDERS was ONLY USED for HUMAN with flesh and blood.

Verse 29 with reference to a promise.

The promise of becoming divine nature's like God , who is neither male or female .

The verse is not speaking of becoming human.. you are the liar

All believers will have that nature.

But there's no male or female IN CHRIST.

Which nullified your lies gender.

The bold is what I needed to hear

So the discussion is over since ALL BELIEVERS WILL BE SPIRIT BEINGS

Different please.

Eat the difference then.

The same body tht has return to dust ?

Since it's same body, tht means the person that have accident scars and hunch backs will be ressurected with the wounds and scars like Jess glorified body , Comprehend ?

You no well

HUMAN BODIES not spirit being

Receive sense for once.

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion.

MaxInDHouse:
An argumentative person will never tell you it's ok rather he/she will continue to provoke you with questions!

Why an argumentative mumu will never understand the point of view but keep deviating and argue ignorantly.

You believe in God so God's blessings shouldn't be a contention, a believer will simply think of his own God whenever that title is mentioned.
For instance when someone says "Daddy will take care of you" it's only orphans that will find it so difficult to agree or those whose fathers are useless, you being worried over the God in question shows you're not sure of your own God!

That's why you will keep proving to people that you're truly mumu.

Saying "God bless you" means you're invoking a higher being.

Since your own god can't bless me, then I need to know The God you're INVOKING to bless me.

I've had several encounter with Muslims as well as traditional worshipers saying "God bless you" since i know that i also have mine there is no reason pestering them over the name of the God they're talking about because i'm not interested in their God!

So you know when one tells you "God bless you" is of no interest to you but you want it to be someone interest Mumu

Then do you say Amen, to their prayer?

Being disturbed over the statement "God bless you" shows you're not sure of the efficacy of your own God Sir!

Rather, I want to know the other God you have since you said your own God can't bless me and at the same time INVOKING a God blessing on me.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is why i often call you "ARGUMENTATIVE Maximumu"

More reason I called you the above.

You said someone is deluded the person said he's OK with his own God along with other so called deluded adherents, yet you're still interested in arguing further saying the so called deluded has entered one chance, abeg one chance over what again nah?
Why not leave deluded souls and move on?

Just like I said, nobody is talking about different God here except you deluded person.

What I'm asking is, you said "God bless me" and at the same time "Your own God can't bless me"

So tell me THE GOD you invoke to BLESS ME?

Can you see how you proved your name above right?

Barristter07:
Na person wey no know you and your fraud ways u go dey Bobo

See the fraud calling another person fraud, shameless liar?

Even the CEV translation expose you . ( I know why you chosed it , others make things hard for you, but let's take a look at it )

imagine, isn't CEV your another favorite translation as your lying organization likes to use it?

"Yet God raised Jesus to life! God’s Spirit now lives in you, and he will raise you to life by his Spirit ." Rom 8:11 CEV

They will be raised to life by the Spirit which lives in them . " His Spirit " . So there getting ressurected depend on the Spirit that lives in them. unless unbelievers won't be ressurected. But we saw a twist, The same Spirit will ressurect them too . How come ?

NLT
" And just as God raised Christ Jesus from the dead, he will give life to your mortal bodies by this same Spirit living within you. "

Their ressurection proved then that they also have the same Spirit living within them .

No difference yet, the same Spirit raise both of them , same Spiritual body

The translation even poses my troubles for you.

It is OUR MORTAL BODIES that the spirit will give LIFE TO not turning people into spirit beings.

That's nice.

Says the deluded JWs!

Barristter07:
The word rendered " Spirit" is neuter , neither male not female. Which is my point

So it's no more Angels but spirit.

The joke is on you.

The same bible said God is not a man.

Every description of Jehovah is considered anthropomorphic , becauSe he is not human.

Either Jesus is human with Full blood or the usage are anthropomorphic . Pick one

But you lied that the Father has NOT BEEN CALLED MAN OR HUMAN.

Then we can say the people mentioned in Rev 21:3 is the usage of anthropomorphic.

Can you grab that into your empty skull?

So Jesus has Blood like other humans ?

So is it every time the word MAN used means the person is FLESH AND BLOOD?

Yes. He still mediates as an Human with full blood in his veins.

QED!

I need prove that the Elders, where are they called humans?

Just as you can't produce where angel are said to be gender less.

The word which is used for ONLY HUMAN was APPLIED to them.

Are humans Male and Females ?

Yes. Debunking your lies that the they will go to heaven as humans.

Or debunking your lies that there's still MALE AND FEMALE in CHRIST when the scripture openly go against you.

If they won't turn to Spirit being, they won't have been promised the divine nature . Which says what is born of spirit , is spirit . ( Not has spirit )

And we are all born of spirit which then make ALL BELIEVERS to be spirit beings.

Is spirit not things of the spirit.

Yes!

Is God different from things of God?

Phil 3:21 it will be Fashioned like Jesus Glorious body , does it have wounds ? What does this te you about other deadly marks and wounds of others ?

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion!

who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body. Phil 3:21 CEV

See another verse putting your lying mouth where it belongs.

It is still the same BODIED! So not becoming a spirit person.

Barristter07:
[s]You actually quoted it when you were asked What's the difference between Sinners human body and the so called human spiritual body ( a term not even scriptural )

You now quote and said Believers body are quickened by the spirit , but Sinners are not.[/s]

Say something better!

I quoted that verse to proof to you that AT RESURRECTION both believers and unbelievers are resurrected the same way BUT WHAT MAKES BELIEVERS OWN different is that the SPIRIT OF GOD WHO LIVES IN BELIEVERS will transform their body to be fashioned with that of Glorified Jesus.

This is when you and that your deluded brother trying to proof that both unbelievers and believers will be resurrected and that means unbelievers will also have the glorified body of Christ as you repeated below.

"Yet God raised Jesus to life! God’s Spirit now lives in you, and he will raise you to life by his Spirit." Rom 8:11 CEV

See how believers' resurrection was linked with that of Christ.

That's why I keep asking you if the SPIRIT OF GOD LIVES IN UNBELIEVERS as well. Which you said YES!


Oponu radarada.

That time your small thinking forgot that Quickened means to make Alive , So in short sinners also got spiritual body too since their mortal bodies were made alive

Go back to that my post and see the reason I cited that verse.

Lying liar.

At least you have said unbelievers have the Spirit of God in them and everybody read that here.

So continue your lies like your father the Devil!

Barristter07:
If you don't understand something, you ask: The gender of the word rendered Spirit at John 4:24 is neuter . Neither male not female.

See the lying liar mouth, no wonder your father the Devil is so much proud of you


The idiot now twisted it to John 4:24 when he openly said "SPIRIT persons (plural) are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

This is even in support of his claim that Angels HAS NO GENDER which means whenever the heavenly beings are being discussed in the scripture it is always in NEUTER.

But after the lying liar was debunked that masculine noun is being used for Jesus even after His resurrection, the tune change.

Oponu oniro jatijati.

That's my point.

The Father is never called man or human, cos he has no blood like humans . Anything human possess blood. Without it, no life as flesh

That's not your point, your point to proof that Angels don't marry since they have no genders leads to that your lies above.

Another lie from the lying liar mouth!

Jehovah is A MAN of war! Says the Holy scripture.

My point is, the word translated as PEOPLE, HUMAN in Rev 21:3 was also used for Jesus. QED!

Since you decide to be stupid to the Fact that the word man was reference to his ransom sacrifice ... Yes. And take note as well the word human used for Jesus is the same one used for flesh and blood people.

As your stupidity has First Class upper.

Does Jesus still the Mediator now in heaven? This question will continue to put your lying mouth in coven of your father the Devil.

False : the Elders themselves are Spirit beings , not men. Can you show me where they are called men?

So you then agree that the word MAN (which means flesh and blood according to you) can be used for a spirit being which rendered your Rev 21:3 useless as your lying organization.

THE WORD TRANSLATED as Elders has never been used for a spirit being because it is ONLY USED FOR MAN(FLESH AND BLOOD).

Your delusion and confusion just begin.

Humans are Male and Females .

" He created them male and female, and he blessed them and called them “human.” Genesis 5:2

" according to the promise. " Galatians 3:29

This is a reference to their existence in the Promised Divine nature like God , which is neither male nor female.

In Christ Jesus there's NO MALE OR FEMALE.

Are you In Christ Jesus?

The human spirit is his breath . Jesus spirit retuning to his Father doesn't mean Jesus returned. Note that difference before u spit nonsense. The verse refer to a change.

At least the SPIRIT belongs to Jesus which negates your lying doctrine that NOTHING SURVIVES AFTER DEATH.

And that verse proves beyond reasonable doubt that, the heavenly HOMES(NEW BODIES) will be put on like clothes not to that people will turn to spirit being all of a sudden.

What is born of spirit is not flesh

Sure as flesh is corrupted but only the things of SPIRIT live forever.

na serious Wah. So it won't be Fashioned like Jesus Glorious body which has wound ?

Your delusion is getting cured little by little. Just wait it'll fully respond.

Barristter07:
You are just a robot . U can refer back to my previous post . Romans 8:11 you cant debunk, just making baseless noises, since Spirit have genders, deal with it.

So your delusion has finally been cured!

See the idiot, who quoted Romans 8:11, you or me?

Imagine, I should debunk the verse I cited...wonders of believer in human turns to spirit being.

Just tell us where Holy Spirit get the sperm to fertilize Mary's womb, is what I'm asking!

MaxInDHouse:
You've agreed It's not compulsory that both of us worship the same God and you are certain yours is the true God.
Automatically other Gods are fake so since you are certain about that, there's no further need of who or what other Gods stand for after all you aren't gonna leave your true God for any reason!

Cry of a deluded soul!

Nobody is talking about WORSHIPPING of different Gods here except to your deluded mind!

You said "God bless me" and you went further to say "My OWN GOD can't bless you"

So which god did you INVOKE TO BLESS me when your OWN GOD can't bless me? Is the simple question I'm asking.

You know you have entered one chance by that statement.

Barristter07:
Radarada in your bid to prove nonsense , you cage yourself. If unbelievers don't have spirit of God , how come their mortal bodies are Made Alive too ? In short they get the same spiritual body , O ma se fun Emusan o

Says the deluded JWs who say the unbelievers have the Spirit of God in them yet going from house to house to preach to the same unbelievers who already have the Spirit of God.

Shebi holy spirit is a person and a " He " , according to your rants on this thread . You have your answer .

See painment!

But I didn't claim Holy Spirit slept with Mary.

So don't use style to boycot my post....

You must tell us where Holy Spirit get the sperm to fertilize Mary's womb on this thread, since you believe Holy Spirit slept with Mary!

Barristter07:
The same masculine gender was applied to the Father , is he human ?

So you lied when you made this claim "SPIRIT persons are represented as Neuter in scriptures."

Like I said, if I didn't tutor you, you won't have sense.

For Jesus to be human, he must have blood . Hebrews 2:14 Humans are creatures of flesh and blood.

Either admit this or keep ranting

The simple question is

Is Jesus still a Mediator in heaven now?

You can't run away from that question.

But they are Spirits . Oga give me where they are called Human beings ?

Into your dull skull again, The word translated as Elders HAS NEVER been used for a SPIRIT BEING this proves that they are Human.

Humans are Male and Females , So how is there no Male and female ? Is something doing your head ni ?

In Christ there's no MALE AND FEMALE....this nullified your lies of gender.

Unless you tell me, you're not IN CHRIST.

If people remain humans in heaven, they exist as Male and Females. contradicting that verse

Which verse?

The same body that has rot and become dust will be put on. it's TOTAL Change not putting new over the rotten one , use your God given sense .

NEW BODIES...olodo!

The one we have now we put it ON which means something is inside the BODY which is our SPIRIT.

And the new body - Spirit body or Human body ?

If you say spirit body okay.

But human body, Humans are flesh and blood and humans are males and females, will they be male and Female in Christ?

In resurrection what you sowed is what it raised.

We sowed Human Body and it will raise as Human body not BECOMING SPIRIT BEING.

There's no male and female IN CHRIST.

Robot , you have replied with this again. It's very clear you can't counter that point. E big pass you

Since what appear to Thomas is a Glorious body, ressurected ones will also retain Wounds and marks , Hunchback, accident burns , so far it's to be fashioned like that of Christ which has wounds .

So I'm a robot now, e pain am!

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion on that.

If this is not a counter then continue to live in your delusion.

Janosky:

Dey there DECEIVE yourself.

John 17:3, Jesus Christ says he is a Messenger of the One true God, his Father.

John 20:17, Jesus Christ have denied you forever.

But you asked me to argue with Jesus after you know you don't have any relationship with Him.

So Jesus is a messenger and NOT SON again

This attach by force on Jesus won't save you, your father the Devil knows his children.

MaxInDHouse:
Emusan, it's not compulsory you and i worship the same God!

Then who says it's compulsory before?

Since you're sure that yours is the true God, then i'm contended with my own and the worshipers of my own God (JWs). Thanks Sir!

All I'm asking you is to tell me THE NAME of God you invoke to Bless Me since your own God can't bless.

How is that one an issue?

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is enough to make you happy my friend, just forget about me after all i'm a worshiper of a different God so keep worshipping your God!

When did the friendship start Maximumu

Since your own god can't bless me, I'm still waiting for the name of the GOD YOU INVOKE to bless me...

Barristter07:
Unbelievers don't have spirit of God but the Spirit gives life to their mortal bodies.? By now you should keep shut on this Romans 8:11 , it doesn't help your case.

Says the deluded JWs who say the unbelievers have the Spirit of God in them yet going from house to house to preach to the same unbelievers who already have the Spirit of God.

See how he used style boycot my post....

You must tell us where Holy Spirit get the sperm to fertilize Mary's womb on this thread, since you believe Holy Spirit slept with Mary!