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Jozzy4:
The Bible said what is born of spirit , is spirit . You said it's wrong because your small brain think Jesus birth as a little child was the new birth. That's strictly your problem.

So is Jesus not born of spirit?

Does that make Him a spirit being on earth?

Jozzy4:
One hope , the hope of everlasting life . But two ressurection . Open your senses

Some enjoy this hope as spirit sons (John 3:6, 1Pet 1:4) , others as human sons (Revelation 21:3,4)

Meanwhile the focus of this thread is on the spirit sons, as their nature tells us what body Jesus have after ressurection.

There's ONLY ONE HOPE OF RESURRECTION which is sow in NATURAL HUMAN BODIES and raised in SPIRITUAL BODIES.

You can show us where it is said, raised in NATURAL HUMAN BODIES.

Nothing like spirit sons, ALL BELIEVERS are BORN OF GOD and Born again. If you're not then your home is everlasting fire.

3 I heard a loud shout from the throne, saying, “Look, God’s home is now among his people! He will live with them, and they will be his people. God himself will be with them. 4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever.” Rev 21:3-4

I didn't see where HUMAN SONS are mentioned here, can you show us?

Barristter07:
Oh Jesus at birth is no longer born of spirit ?

Oponu....i was just using that to reiterate your lying doctrine.

Jesus was born of spirit as human which then means Jesus must be A Spirit being on earth.

The product is a Spirit person , but it's an hope at their Ressurection.

What is born of spirit is Spirit. not man

Liar, the product is A NEW BIRTH, not becoming a spirit person

All believers have ONE HOPE OF RESURRECTION.

Also, Jesus was BORN OF SPIRIT at Resurrection, right

As for the criteria , Read John 3:8

John 3:8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

I didn't see any criteria here, can you point it out?

The truth from the scripture is that ALL BELIEVERS ARE ADOPTED SONS OF GOD AND BORN OF GOD.

But to all who believed him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God. 13 They are reborn—not with a physical birth resulting from human passion or plan, but a birth that comes from God. John 1:12-13

Unless you can proof to us that this scripture is selective in nature.

Not having God's new rebirth means you're doomed forever and your abode is everlasting fire, lack RUSSELL.

This is why I keep mentioning ressurection,

But at Resurrection we will have the pattern of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

42 It is the same way with the resurrection of the dead. Our earthly bodies are planted in the ground when we die, but they will be raised to live forever. 43 Our bodies are buried in brokenness, but they will be raised in glory. They are buried in weakness, but they will be raised in strength. 44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

My challenge to you is @color, Kindly provide us from the scripture where it stated that OUR NATURAL BODIES will be buried and raised as NATURAL HUMAN BODIES.

It's evident that ALL RESURRECTED BODIES will be buried in NATURAL HUMAN BODIES and RAISED in SPIRITUAL BODIES.

everyone adopted through the new birth has a HOPE

Yes, as all believers are adopted by the new birth not some selective people once you're not adopted son of God, you can't be in His kingdom and your abode is everlasting fire.

Ressurection as a Spirit person like Jesus.

Jesus Christ resurrected as flesh and bone which is the antitypes of resurrection every believers will have.

Nobody will be resurrected as a spirit being.

Everlasting life in heaven , this is why Peter said " reserved in the heaven for you ".

So what of when Jesus said we should store our treasures in heaven? Isn't that means we're all going to heaven where our treasures are?

Besides, I went on to quote the remaining portion of that verse which shows that the promise is for ALL BELIEVERS.

What is born of spirit , IS ? SPIRIT . Heaven is the abode of Spirit persons . The earth is for sons of men

And ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN OF SPIRIT...so heaven is abode for all believers.

Jozzy4:
Mumu Emusan don cast, shebi Jesus through Mary is born of spirit , it mean anyone born of spirit turn to a baby .

No wonder I do say you people lack simple comprehension.

Born of Spirit must mean A SPIRIT BEING according to your lying doctrine.

So if Jesus was born of spirit as human then it means Jesus should be A SPIRIT BEING while on earth.

But you won't agree that Jesus is a spirit being on earth, which then means BORN OF SPIRIT doesn't mean BEING A SPIRIT BEING.

Ode...

Jozzy4:
You rant too much, the bold is what I need. Likewise Those born of spirit have the hope of existing in that same nature.

After you've been schooled...olodo!

But there is only ONE HOPE for every believers.

Barristter07:
Without a Physical woman.

In your deluded mind, when a person is Born of Spirit, they become an human Baby?

who said so?

Born of Spirit means "adoption as God's SPIRIT SON" as you said below which means they're still A PRODUCT of Holy Spirit.

It means adoption as God's Spirit son.

On what ground were they ADOPTED by the Holy Spirit?

New birth as brand new baby ? Idiot

Oponu...

Born of Spirit means we're a product of spirit at the New Birth.

1Pet 1:3,4 " new birth into a living HOPE through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, "

A person knows they have been adopted as A Spirit son while they are on Earth just as Peter knows, But the product as a Spirit person is an HOPE. One that happen at their ressurection.

Firstly, see the oponu who keeps falling back to my initial point...so you agree again that "it's a PRODUCT" which is not being a baby ode...

Also, on what ground were they ADOPTED as a SPIRIT SON?

Lastly, the verse is talking about Christ resurrection which all believers will experience.

1 Peter 1:8-9 "Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, 9 for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls."

Understand the meaning of hope and your ignorance will be cured.

There's one HOPE for all believers.

Oponu ode!

Jozzy4:
You are very dull sha, ever since you re asked the form of angels and you replied God Almighty , am not shocked anymore.

Are you saying everything he mentioned there are false?

No wonder, you couldn't counter them.

If not because you're so dull and forgetful, I remembered @Blabbermouth already thrashed that earlier when he used Animals and human form example.

Both human and animals are called NATURAL BEING but does that make animals and human to have the same NATURE?

Of course the nature of animals and human is considered to be PHYSICAL OR FLESH because it can be touched and seen.

Likewise, the nature of God and Angels is considered to be SPIRIT because it can't be touch and seen.

But God and Angels being considered to be SPIRIT BEINGS doesn't means they both have THE SAME NATURE as human and Animals can be said to exist in the same nature.

The nature of Yahweh makes Him, self-existence, eternal (indestructible), and uncreated.

In simple term, nature is what distinguished one being from another, no wonder @Blabbermouth could say you people logic will mean Angels are God too since to think God and Angels have the same nature means they BOTH CO EXIST in the same way.

Even within the animals, they're nature can be said to be the same.

The nature of fish makes it live inside water while some can both live in water and land. These are not authority but what was found WITHIN THE BEING of such entity.

Authority on the other hand means being in the same nature yet have power to enact some decisions.

For example, Jesus said, "this is why you will know that THE SON OF MAN has authority to forgive sin"

Notice how Jesus classified Himself as being of the same nature with human as "SON OF MAN" yet the authority to forgive sin was in place which is what only God could do.

We'll keep educating you people!

Barristter07:
Jesus birth through Mary didn't make him born of spirit. He was just born BY spirit.

Another one

Jesus was just BORN BY SPIRIT....Barristter07 2020

What then is to be BORN OF SPIRIT?

If born of spirit is birth through a Woman without intercourse, Nicodemus would have been right when he said entering a woman's womb.

Olodo....of the century!

Jesus statement to Nicodemus was you must be BORN AGAIN which Nicodemus presume to be ENTERING WOMB the second time which Jesus then clarified that, No! You must be born of spirit and water.

So being born of spirit means the Birth is through the Agent of the Holy Spirit.

Now, you agreed Jesus was BORN BY SPIRIT....

So what does it mean to be BORN OF SPIRT?

But you should know better , so much for a poor student of the Bible.

So you agree I'm a student of the Bible.

If only you had payed attention , What is born of flesh is flesh, does that mean The Flesh is born immediately the sperm is hatched, it takes stages and process, 9 month pregnancy, then an human is born

Just as @Blabbermouth said, if you don't understand something, you ask!

Born OF FLESH means we are a PRODUCT of FLESH

That's the point.

Born of Spirit means we're a product of spirit at the New Birth.

What is born of Spirit is Spirit does not mean they are spirit beings on Earth, they had to Even prove Faithful before getting that adoption , it's a New kind of birth , which result in *A Spirit being

So ALL JEHOVAH WITNESS are not FAITHFUL but only those who will reign with Christ are faithful, that's nice.

This brings us back to my point.

At what point were they Born of Spirit?
1. During their life on earth
2. After they died

See this dubious entity....

So BORN OF SPIRIT "is a NEW KIND OF BIRTH"

can you see how he finally agreed with my initial point that BORN OF SPIRIT IS SPIRIT is a NEW BIRTH every believers must under go before reigning with Christ.

So how can a NEW birth be suddenly change to RESURRECTED to A SPIRIT BEING? is where you need to explain.

This is why that point , " Is Spirit " is crucial .

And exactly why you are running away from it

Yes it is, but you must first tell us WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN OF SPIRIT.

Jozzy4:
Jesus wasn't born of Spirit . Jesus was born by spirit and a woman .

This birth has nothing to do with a woman.

It means Jesus has two nature!

Very nice!

OK Jesus was BORN BY SPIRIT and A WOMAN....Jozzy4 2020

Then what does it mean to be BORN OF SPIRIT?

Barristter07:
Emphasis on " Is spirit " means ?

Next time address ALL my post....

Do you believe Jesus is the Christ?

Emphasis on BORN OF SPIRIT....

Jesus was Born of Spirit, does that make Him a spirit being on earth? According to your doctrine...

All believers are BORN OF GOD who is a Spirit, they should all be a spirit being also.

At what point did your spirit being people BORN OF SPIRIT?
1. Before they died
2. After death

Jozzy4:
Mumu, being means a persons nature.

Human being means humans

Spirit being means Spirit.

John 4:24 directly stated it that God is spirit. This is his being

When John. 3:6 also said what is born of spirit is SPIRIT . It means they will become this being



That birth will result to becoming Spirit like John 3:6 said , Hope you know ?

Wasn't human Jesus BORN OF SPIRIT? Does it make human Jesus to be spirit being on earth?

If God is a spirit and EVERYONE who believes Jesus is CHRIST is born of God. Are they not supposed to be a spirit being?

Do you believe Jesus is the Christ?

Jozzy4:
They all have the same NATURE . Spirit.

This is the nature Christ and born again Christian's will also have . John 3:6

But ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN AGAIN...

22 Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart.[a] 23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 1 Pet 1:22-23

Barristter07:
Emphasis on " IS SPIRIT" , explain that clause .

Are they born to become Spirit ?

Next time address ALL my post....

Do you believe Jesus is the Christ?

Emphasis on BORN OF SPIRIT....

Jesus was Born of Spirit, does that make Him a spirit being on earth? According to your doctrine...

All believers are BORN OF GOD who is a Spirit, they should all be a spirit being also.

At what point did your spirit being people BORN OF SPIRIT?

1. Before they died
2. After death

Barristter07:
You sound incoherent , just explain the point.
What is born of spirit IS SPIRIT means ?

It means new birth every believers must under go before reigning with Christ.
Do you believe Jesus is the Christ?

Barristter07:
Because you can't. Thanks .

That's the main question you will have to explain anytime you wanna discuss Jesus nature after ressurection.

It's so funny how you people change BORN to RESURRECTION.

So to you at RESURRECTION Jesus was BORN OF SPIRT....

Yet failed to accept that the same God who BORN CHRIST at resurrection will also BORN THOSE WHO WILL LIVE FOREVER ON EARTH.

Barristter07:
Cc: Livingchrist and Emusan. Why did both of you avoid this ...

That is the new birth every believers must under go in other to reign with Christ.

All believers must BORN AGAIN through the Holy Spirit and the Word of God who LIVETH forever.

Every believers are BORN OF GOD and the reason is WHOEVER believes that Jesus is Christ is BORN OF GOD.

Do you believe Jesus is the Christ?

MaxInDHouse:
Moses mediated between God and the Israelites after delivering them out of Egyptian bondage, likewise Jesus is the mediator between God and everyone today.

So when will you know that your organization claimed that Jesus is only a MEDIATOR for the 144,000 ONLY and not for EVERYONE TODAY as you claim here

You must have read this in your Bible by yourself and not come across it in watchtower, that's why you can say this.

Your one line of thought isn't working here, go and get brainwashed in the belief that Jesus is a MEDIATOR for 144,000 only before you get disfellowsip

livingchrist:
I thought you said all who are born of God are Spirit beings
So, all Christians are Spirit beings?
Yes without sin that position would have extended to us by birth right?
But now we have to be born again to access that position of being Son of God through Jesus right?
All those born of God are born by spirit because God is Spirit but those born by Adam is born by flesh,
Your organisation is fraud, it teaches that those born by flesh(Adam) are called sons of God, lie lie.

Let me show you how confused they are more!

Ask them, what does it mean to be BORN OF SPIRIT?

You'll hear to be Spirit Fill...

Then ask, what does it mean to be spirit filled:
You mean the spirit is inside the person or not?

They will never agree that there's a spirit INSIDE a person.

But you'll realize that their explanation is tending towards DISPLAYING THE FRUITS OF HOLY SPIRIT.

Then ask them, what is the evidence of being Spirit filled?

They will take you straight to Gal 5:22-23

Then ask them, is there any JWs who doesn't display the FRUIT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT?

They won't like to deny that no JWs who doesn't display the fruit of the Holy Spirit neither would they try to give straight answer because they know where you're already going.


Here is the confusion:
Some people will be resurrected to a spirit being because they were BORN OF SPIRIT (means they are Spirit fill i.e displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit)

The rest of the people will be resurrected to flesh because they were BORN OF FLESH (even thou we didn't know THE FLESH WHO BORN THIS PEOPLE yet they are still SPIRIT FILL i.e displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit)

livingchrist:
Are you aware that all Christians are born of the spirit?
1 Peter 1:23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

God is a spirit, right ? So every Christian is born of Spirit, does that mean that Christians are Spirit being?

Who is born of spirit is spirit....

And he agreed that God is that spirit

Who is born of flesh is flesh....

You should have asked him that:

Who is that FLESH that the people who will live forever on earth will be born from?

Maximus85:
How is this a lie sir. I'm stating authoritative FACT. We first need to determine what an argument is. I can't be giving you FACT backed up by the scripture and you call it an argument. If you have no backing to your points then who is the one arguing?

So what is an argument?

WHO DETERMINES the FACT you're given based on the scripture?

You know you're lying that's why you brought the issue of bringing out fact from the scripture.

Now, compare your previous statement "When we see that the conversation is turning to unnecessary arguments, we quietly walk away. with this "I can't be giving you FACT backed up by the scripture and you call it an argument."

The truth is, you know you people argue blindly because you're the one who brought up the issue of argument not me.

livingchrist:
If they paid for their sins with their death then, they do not need Christ death. How can Jesus ransome be in action when they already paid for their sins, lie lie barrister.

Imagine this interpretation

But the same people will still tell you that, Jehovah will not resurrect evil doers.

If by death everyone paid for their sin, we can then ask, why Jehovah won't resurrect some people then?

Lie,lie barrister, why did Jesus say men will give account on the day of judgment?

Lie, lie barrister if dead people sins are canceled,
Why did Jesus still talk of sodom and gomorrah partaking in the jugdment?


.Matthew 11:24 But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.

Why did Jesus say it tyre and sidon will experience a greater jugdment on the judgment day than sodom and gomorrah? Since the people of tryre and sidon are dead, it means Jesus words are in vain right?

You are just a pathetic liar barrister


Lie lie, they wont be part of the 1000 years

Revelation 20:5
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

The rest of the dead will only lived after the 1000 years are over. Lie lie barrister

1000 years was not in their twisted Bible

so those Christian's that didnt resurrect with Spirit body, whose image did they bear?

Just watch, he will never answer this question.

Maximus85:
When it comes to preaching and teaching we are thoroughly trained. When we see that the conversation is turning to unnecessary arguments, we quietly walk away.
There will always be another day.

And the bolden is a false as your brothers have proved it wrong many times on this forum.

So stop lying.

Maximus85:
God's word the Bible is the only authority to preach. If you want to see us direct you to the Bible. Read the magazine.... It will lead you to hundred of scriptures.

My point still remain: The first direction you should have given is to the WORD OF GOD not word of men.

Concerning the Bible production.... It's not about competition. You can't serve God and see yourself competing with others. The race no get first or second. All of us will get to the finish line differently or together. So far we reach the final line.

But even your statement here shows the same tone of competition your organization involved in.

1. Number of Bible publication
2. Magazines MOST distributed.

That we produce more Bible and in hundreds of languages is a FACT. Or do want to object?

That is competition I'm talking about.

You produce Bible MORE THAN WHO?

1.Muslims
2. Hindus
3. Atheist

Just like saying Jehovah's Witnesses are the only religious group known to take the preaching work as first priority in the whole world, weather you agree with what they preach or not.... It's a FACT. You can't deny it.

Yet the others that don't take preaching work more than JWs have more members than you.

I know he will say number isn't relevant. Just watch!

Why is the Watchtower and Awake the first and second most distributes magazines in the world. It's a FACT.

So which one is the FIRST MOST DISTRUSTED MAGAZINE?

No competition.

But you just described your organization competitions here.

Janosky:
Is Mr LIENUS the owner of the holy spirit ?

Does Jehovah take orders from Mr LIENUS before his holy spirit is poured out on His Servants ?

Wetin concern Mr LIENUS with whom God choose to receive his holy spirit?

Continue to display your immaturity & be throwing childish tantrums upandan.

Mr LIENUS no get SENSE, confirmed.

See the escape route the JaNonsense took.

WHAT WAS MY CLAIM?

Mr No sense!

Janosky:
@1
PROOF JWs direct attention to the holy Bible.

The Billboard sign @ JW Headquarters says:
"Read God's word the Bible daily"

If you no like NWT, we use your KJV or any Bible you get.
Bros, Your claim is FALSE

What was my claim?

@2.
Acts 8:26-31 ,I quoted it to help you understand the broad perspective of the matter and I bolded Acts 8:30-31,Mr LIENUS dey launch childish insults to showcase his immaturity.


Acts 8:30-31
' 30Philip ran to the man, and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet. Philip said, 'Do you understand what you are reading?' 31The man replied, 'How can I, unless someone explains it to me?' He implored Philip to come up and sit with him.”
(Acts 8:30-31, the Ethiopian lacked understanding & needed someone to explain the Scriptures to him.

The Point:
Our listeners need help to understand the Bible' like that Ethiopian. It's not enough to own a copy of the Bible.
Accurate knowledge and application of the Scriptures is necessary for salvation, John 17:3)

Mr Janosense!

The Holy spirit told Phillip what to do.

Is it Holy Spirit who told your brother to post on Nairaland?

Janosky:
The Billboard sign @ JW Headquarters says:
"Read God's word the Bible daily"
Bros, Your claim is FALSE.

If not because your brain is paining you...

What makes my claim false

I asked the op question NOT WT headquarter.

You've started with your delusion again.

See what lack of simple comprehension is doing to your life.

Acts 8:26-31

¶“26But an angel of the Lord spoke to Philip. The angel said, 'Arise, and go southward along the road that goes from Jerusalem down to Gaza.' This area is deserted. 27But Philip arose and went. And behold, there was a man of Ethiopia, a eunuch of great authority under Candace, queen of the Ethiopians. He was responsible for all her treasure. He'd been to Jerusalem to worship. 28Now he was returning; seated in his chariot; reading the prophet Isaiah.” (Acts 8:26-28).

¶“29The Spirit told Philip, 'Go closer, and meet this chariot.' 30Philip ran to the man, and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet. Philip said, 'Do you understand what you are reading?' 31The man replied, 'How can I, unless someone explains it to me?' He implored Philip to come up and sit with him.” (Acts 8:29-31).

JWs direct attention to the Bible and we go a step further offer a home Bible study with anyone who is interested.

But it was the Spirit who told Phillip what to do here, so why the comparison?

So Nairaland is people's HOME, thought it's a faceless forum

You must be in a wrong place.

We study the Bible with individuals,some of whom prefer to use only the Bible without any study material, we gladly accept.

Free of charge and & the convenience of the interested person (s). Matthew 24:14

My question to OP is, why YOU not direct people to God's word rather than men's word?

Your illiteracy is stinking.

Just see the way you're exposing your ignorance.

Maximus85:
OK, if you check the magazines. You will be directed to the Bible. At least the magazine will have a topic.... And in the articles, readers are always directed to the Bible. Sir, go and check.... No religious group produces the Bible more than Jehovah's Witnesses and do you want to talk about the number of languages that we print the Bible in?

Why YOU didn't direct people to God's word rather than men's word? is still my question.

You admitted Bible is the Word of God, so which is more important God's word or word of men?

@underlined see another self appraised statement, the mentality of being in competition with others when in reality nobody is in competition with their minute group.

Maximus85:
I will on respond to the last thing you said.
No book or magazine is above the Bible. I hope you understand. The Bible is the word of God. The magazines and books of Jehovah's Witnesses are extracts from the Bible.

And my unanswered question still remains, why can't you direct people to Bible which is the Word of God than magazines and books which are extracted by men from the Bible?

Maximus85:
Many today tired of the present situation of things in the world have been clamoring for change. But if we are looking for a perfect condition here on earth, do we expect it in the hands of imperfect humans who can't even direct their own steps?

But why is your organization investing in this present corrupt world government?

Human governments have been failing for centuries, it's time to look up to God for that change we all are yearning for.

because human itself is falling day by day

God has promised a better world a long time ago and his son Jesus Christ even taught us to pray for that kingdom that will usher in the new worlds to come.
Remember the lords prayer.. ".... Thy kingdom come, thy will be done here on earth as it has in heaven....

But from this prayer, it has been established that the WILL OF GOD in heaven has taken place.

Yes, God's will for the heaven is to make it clean and that was accomplished when Satan and his demons were sent out of the heaven.

Why is it that it's in 1914 this happened when from the Lord's prayer, the WILL OF GOD has already taken place?

God's will for the earth is also to destroy Satan, his demons and all those who have unrepentantly allowed themselves to be influence by Satan the devil.

If you truly follow that Lord's prayer, you'll see that Jesus isn't talking about the future event but present one because from the Lord's prayer we read "forgive us our trespass as we forgive those who trespasses against us"

Could this be the reason why your organization claimed somewhere that “God’s kingdom is here with you.” (Italics ours; Contemporary English Version ) “The Kingdom of God is among you.” ( New World Translation, footnote) The Kingdom of heaven was “with” or “among” the Pharisees, in that Jesus, the one designated by God to rule as King, was standing before them.​— Luke 1:​32, 33

I have a link to a magazine that tells you all you need to know about God's Kingdom.

Is the magazine above the Bible?

Does it make more sense to direct people to Bible than magazines?

Depsui:
Personally, i think no. A wrong prophecy does not necessarily mean that the prophet is false.
He might just have mistakenly listen to the voice of the flesh or the devil.

I believe that we can also apply this to our personal life. The fact that you've heard God speak to you doesn't mean that every voice you hear is from God.

There are four sources of thoughts
1. God
2. Your born again spirit
3. The devil or demons
4. Flesh or unrenewed mind

It is therefore important to always judge anything we hear in our mind with scriptures.

If the thought/voice glorifies self or is against the bible, it is not from God.

I'll still like to hear your thoughts about the issue

You're wrong on that.

Prophecy is foretelling certain events that will take place in the NAME OF GOD and directly from GOD.

So unless you agree that God can be wrong.

And if the person says, the message isn't from God but just a mere prediction then it wasn't a prophecy in the first place.

Deuteronomy 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. KJV

achorladey:
His opening words is something else and after looking at the words I can help but laugh at the TAUTOLOGY all in the name of TAGS and INSULTS on a thread that has no BEARING on his personality.

I'm telling you, so much for the fake self acclaimed the only follower of Christ.

MaxInDHouse:
You're the most stupid idiot i've ever come across in my entire life!

[s]Jesus is just one Jewish carpenter in the first century in Judae , he establish a group through his unique teachings that's why observers in the first century could refer to those practically applying Jesus' teachings as Christians!
It's almost two thousand years now that Jesus ascended to heaven and today there are over 41,000 different religious groups all claiming followers of Jesus (meaning they're also practicing what Jesus laid down)
Your coming on a faceless social media like NL to mimick what's written in the Bible is stupidity because almost everyone has a personal copy of the Bible in their homes, and what you quoted is known globally.
What you're expected to do now is present the group that's practicing what Jesus laid down out of all the 41,000 different religions so followers on NL can know how to practice Christianity the right way, that's when you can truly prove to be helpful with your posts.
Any member of any group out of the 41,000 can equally quote the same verse, and what each of them meant in their minds totally differs! [/s]

This frustration of yours will soon send you to your untimely death.

Did anybody stop you to open your thread and post whatever you want to post about your group?

Did @Seun give you the license to tell anyone what to post or not?

Why this bitterness on a faceless forum as you claimed?

You must be really pained to the marrow....