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MaxInDHouse:
If you're not as useless and stupid as the OP, tell me the QUESTION he asked!

I can sense the pain this thread is causing you!

AkinwaleJJ:
Perhaps Mr Emusan don't remember what a question means!

I do tell you people that instead of arguing online you people should enroll in an English class.

Read my post again and apply your number 6 this time.

Meanwhile, do you agree with what he posted?

MaxInDHouse:
Instead of visiting people in their homes during rain and sunshine for them to see how strong the LOVE you have for God and neighbours like JWs, you this stupid idiot sit down in the corner of your single room apartment typing gibberish against the group that has won the heart of millions through works of faith!
Let's see whether James word at James 2:18-26 will make sense to you or not.
Foolish man like you, it's the works of your faith that every right thinking person wants to observe and not just your story story story. Everyone has his/her own kind of FAITH.
It's when the faith is productive that people can be moved to make decisions not when a useless idiot of no pedigree like you just start typing gibberish on social media, nah you dey feed them?

See frustration written all over your post!

Do you show this your frustration to the said neighbors you're meeting in door to door or you just pretend to be always cool wearing a fake smile even when a question like this was asked?

Is this the same way the fluctuating number 8.7millions JWs will respond, since one person representing the rest?

You need to learn from some of older Nairaland JWs like Jman05!

This is how extremists start.

Blabbermouth:
Check again, you didn't.

If you said so!

Blabbermouth:
Okay.
Bible verse please.

I gave it above!

Blabbermouth:
Everyone, including Christ and his 144,000 are returning to earth to live forever, right?

And you wrote "understood" below which means you didn't understand.

Christ isn't coming to earth!

Understood.

You didn't

What is the NEW HEAVEN and the NEW EARTH.

Na wa ooo...see question!

What will happen to the old heaven and the old earth?

Dissolve!

Is it a reformation or a recreation?

A NEW one!

Blabbermouth:
Afterwards, where do we all go to live forever?
(do include, where Jesus the Christ also go)

The new earth which is called New Yahrusalem!

Christ will hand over to his Father so that God may be ALL IN ALL

PHILLIPS: Nevertheless, when everything created has been made obedient to God, then shall the Son acknowledge himself subject to God the Father, who gave the Son power over all things. Thus, in the end, shall God be wholly and absolutely God. 1 Corin 15:28

Let me add Benson commentary so that you can grab the point:

Benson Commentary

1 Corinthians 15:28. When all things shall be subdued — Or, rather, subjected, (as υποταγη properly signifies,) unto him, and there is no longer need of a prophet to teach, nor of a priest to make atonement and intercede, nor of a king to deliver, protect, and govern under God, the Father will resume the government; and then, even the Son himself shall be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God — Or the Godhead; may be all in all — May be over all beings, in all places, and the immediate object of their worship and service. Or rather, may be all things in and to his intelligent creatures, saints, and angels, by a full communication of himself to them, and an intimate union with them.

Ehen?

I don't understand!

Jozzy4:
Stop telling lies, the word human is flesh and blood.

" He created them male and female, and he blessed them and called them “human.” Genesis 5:2

See the lying liar who keep jumping like kangaroo.

the only person appointed by God to judge is "A MAN.."

You can tear that from your lying translation out of frustration.

The worst is your man tag to Jesus carry the idea of a male human being, so it means there will be females as well . Genders In heaven

I know what you'll still come up with is that their must be sexual feelings in heaven, just wait and see.

Guy , you don't have any reasoning

And your sense isn't even there in the first place.

They also have flesh and bones like Christ.
So those of unbelievers is not glorious human body ?? Which body is it??

Their bodies is still flesh and blood, and won't be QUICKNEN which is the difference between unbelievers and believers because unbelievers don't have the Spirit of God in them.

ROMANS 8:11

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Different stupi.d theories from Emusan

When lying liar is put to shame, he gets confused!

Humans as male and females in heaven. You need prayers

He's coming with human will be having sex in heaven just wait and see.

Deluded JWs lying liar!

Jozzy4:
I thought anyone that is ressurected cannot be condemned? Rev 20:5,6 anyone having a part in first ressurection cannot be overpowered by second death.

Who said the @bolden?

That's why I always say you people lack simple comprehension!

Even despite the fact that I do capitalize the phrase "ALL BELIEVERS"

ALL BELIEVERS can't be AFFECTED by the second death says the Holy scripture Rev 2:11

You have said it's heaven, so definitely even evildoers will be in heaven.

Is it not heaven?

Tell us the location

Crack head!

Blabbermouth:
Emusan, and any other interested person - can you give me bible verses that expressly shows that man will live forever in heaven?

We are not going to LIVE FOREVER in heaven but be in heaven until the whole process of God's salvation has been accomplished.

There will be a NEW heaven and a NEW earth! Says the Holy scripture.

Jozzy4:
Ignorance 2.3 version
So which ressurection do the unbeliever have ?

Delusion reloaded!

Resurrection! Which simply means raising FROM DEATH!

But unbelievers will be raised to condemnation while believers to life eternal...the eternal is the glorious body after that of Christ.

We can agree even Evildoers will be in heaven. Yes ?

"STAND BEFORE THE THRONE"

Tell us where the throne is located first!

Crack head!

Jozzy4:
If it not identity, a Man is flesh and blood by nature. Accepted?

Which is still corruptible but after resurrection with a glorified body. Man will still have flesh and bones as Jesus has.

So which ressurection will unbelievers have ?

Both unbelievers and believers will be resurrected back to human but the believers own will be regenerated by the spirit to conform with the glorious body of Christ.

Jozzy4:
Crack head , It's a case of identity not his nature if it's his nature , then he is a male human being with flesh and blood.

Identity indeed.....lying liar

There is one mediator between God and man, "THE MAN JESUS"

This is also identity because the deluded JWs want it to be.

Those called Humans are flesh and blood . Dummy , Check Genesis 5:2

But resurrection will change the immortal body to glorified bodies like that of Christ.

Ode osi

Jozzy4:
If all who rise were sinners, there would have been no need to open the books and search for names . Let me remind you

ALL BELIEVERS have the same type of Christ resurrection!

And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.

Verse 15 said those whose names were not find in the book of life were Sentenced to second death.

"STANDING BEFORE THE THRONE"

So this is actually HEAVENN because there was no THRONE set up ON EARTH!

Now, it's getting interesting but you'll see how the deluded JWs will change mouth about throne!

This is a different ressurection . The first ressurection automatically make you in the book of life .


Don't forget this ones also ressurect ?
This is proof that it's a different ressurection. U can't be affected by second death if u are raised in the first ressurection.

ALL BELIEVERS are immune to second death according to Rev 2:11 unless you're not a victorious.

Jozzy4:
More cracks , You should not have tried to defend nonsense ... That Greek word identified a male human being. So it means Jesus apart from having flesh and blood, also possess male genitals.

Now, it's Greek turn

Dull head, he wants to start diverting attention to irrelevant things.

What does possessing male genitals has to do with this or what is the usefulness of male genitals at resurrection?

Maybe the next thing you'll tell us now is that Jesus must be having sexual feeling if He was still a man.

But Paul said it loud and clear "....THROUGH A MAN God has appointed..."

Crack head , When God have the name human,it was for flesh and blood beings. Genesis 5:2 is not in your Bible ?

Crack head

Then you don't know anything about resurrection go and learn more!

Jozzy4:
Barnes even said probably cos he knows na mumu explanation . no wonder Emusan didn't want to quote it himself.

You mean your demonic organization and you don't use the word PROBABLY!

Jozzy4:
Mr small brain , Anyone who experience first ressurection is automatically in the book of life . No second death can over power them.

Mr deluded JWs!

But all BELIEVERS NAMES are already in the book of life.

But we saw that the dead released from the Grave and the sea were checked in the book of life for names . This means they are not only sinners, righteous are among , and anyone whose name wasn't find get harmed by second death. This ressurection cannot be same as First, some of those who experience the second are harmed by second death . Cos once you experience the first , nobody can harm you.

These are the ones who be affected by the second death.

"But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

Jozzy4:
He once mention that an angel also identify as Man. Despite he was a spirit.

Stop talking nonsense.

I was the one who countered that!

Here is what Apostle Paul said again Acts 17:31
"because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a MAN whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”

This is after resurrection, liars!

To use that verse as proof, u must admit Jesus has blood like men. Cos that Greek word applies to people with flesh and blood

Crack head!

Glorified body is still Human but not with blood that's why flesh and blood can't inherit the kingdom of God.

Barristter07:
If the least is greater than him, then he is not there.


The least person in primary 2 is greater than Romeo , it means Romeo is not a primary 2 student.

Says the deluded JWs!

Just like John won't be part of God's kingdom since no flesh and blood can inherit God's kingdom.

Barristter07:
Identification not nature. A man has blood , you no get sense.

Ole...barawo!

So Jesus is identified AS MAN not spirit again.

Continue your lie

Your sense is blocked!

Is preaching in the statement about John ?

Read that expository again and again!

Barristter07:
They will also be ressurected , (Act 24:15 )

So God will destroy ALL HIS CHILDREN!

If you read it well, this was a reference to First ressurection .

" Blessed and holy is he, whoever has part in the first resurrection, and the second death has no authority over these, but they shall be Priests of God and of The Messiah, and they shall reign with him 1000 years." Revelation 20:-

The implication here is once a person shares this ressurection , second death can't do them any harm.


This simply means those who get affected by second death must have shared a different kind of ressurection. And the Fact that names of those who are ressurected are checked in the book of life before getting harmed by second death proved they are not just sinners, believers are among them


This is why I called you a Liar

Not all believers have the heavenly hope to be a Spirit.

You're a liar!

SECOND DEATH itself is But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

No believer will ever involve in anything like this and still be part of Jesus follower.

And that Rev 2:11 points it out that, "WHOEVER is victorious will NEVER BE hurt by second death"

Lying liar JWs!

Barristter07:
Spirit beings do not have flesh and bones.

Spirit is God's nature.

Jesus doesn't have God's nature.

Says the deluded JWs!

Acts 17:31
because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a MAN whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”

It's MAN God has appointed not a Spirit!

Your lies will be keep exposed

Here is Barnes note on Matthew 11:11

" He that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he - The phrase "kingdom of heaven" is used in many senses. See the notes at Matthew 3:2. It here probably means, "in preaching the kingdom of God," or the gospel. It could hardly be affirmed of the obscurest and most ignorant Christian that he had clearer views than Isaiah or John; but of the apostles of the Saviour, of the first preachers who were with him and who heard his instructions, it might be said that they had more correct apprehensions than any of the ancient prophets, or than John. "

Is this what you agree with ??

Oooooo boyyyyyy

You can say what is wrong with that explanation!

Barristter07:
The least person in the Kingdom is GREATER than John ??

Yes! Do you have problem with that?

Barristter07:
Yes . They are children of God too

Good so God will destroy ALL HIS CHILDREN!

If you do, you would know only the heavenly ressurection is immune from second death. Anyone having the first ressurection cannot experience second death. But others can.

So the ressurection are not the same

All believers who resurrected ARE IMMUNE FROM SECOND DEATH because the scripture says CEV: "If you have ears, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches. WHOEVER wins the victory will not be hurt by the second death." Rev 2:11

It's evident JWs will be affected by the second death because they're not victorious!

Barristter07:
Yahweh has flesh and bones ??

Use sense na .

Says the deluded JWs!

Don't bother to use your sense.

Your explanation was a lie.


" Regeneration of the body by the Holy Spirit to be conformed with the Image of the LAST ADAM.

What is born of flesh is flesh...
What is born of spirit is spirit...

So all must be transformed from flesh by the spirit. ".

Jesus said " IS SPIRIT " not by the spirit.

Just as you are confused with your explanation.

No! Just as you take BORN of spirit to mean
RESURRECTED INTO SPIRIT BEING

BORN and RESURRECT aren't the same thing!

Barristter07:
What is born of spirit " IS SPIRIT "

Yes is spirit! You have problem with that?

Jesus did same for John. God's kingdom in that context refer to the heavenly part of the kingdom1 New heavens.

Says the deluded JWs who have right to give meaning to every word in the Bible as it suits him.

When they don't even have knowledge in Hebrew and Greek!

Now Kingdom of God is having different meanings.

Deluded JWs.

Unless you mean John won't be in the kingdom. Hehehe I remember, wey your Barnes explanation.

John and ALL believers will be in God's kingdom but NOT WITH FLESH AND BLOOD but our glorified bodies which has FLESH and Bones.

That's what the verse mean.

Barristter07:
The wicked will be ressurected, and according to Emusan all ressurection is to be patterned like the Last Adam . So they will also be heavenly like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. Now I know the wicked will go to heaven too ... Courtesy of pastor Emusan Of glorified lies ministry

All these your Mumbo jumbo won't work!

Are the wicked also BORN OF GOD?

Go and read your Bible.

I do that always, do you?

Barristter07:
Are u ashamed of Barnes , bring it here make we see na

You can bring it and highlight your point, not time to go back!

Barristter07:
Tiki take , one two am loving your situation right now.

Your house is your possession, e.g I have a house.

Spirit does not have any such possession . It doesn't have flesh and blood. This cancel ur lies

Either Jesus is in God's nature which doesn't have flesh and bones or he isn't

The nature of God in Christ remains intact.

Please and please explain the statement what is born of spirit , " IS SPIRIT "

I've done that again!

Your first concortion says By the spirit. That's not what that verse said.

No! Just as you take BORN of spirit to mean RESURRECTED INTO SPIRIT BEING

BORN and RESURRECT aren't the same thing!

Barristter07:
If that is not what it means, Explain the statement what is born of spirit IS SPIRIT.

I've done that!

Then explain why others are called humans at Revelation 21:3,4

We're all human!

Explain why Jesus is called MAN in heaven?

Exposed

Flesh and blood in the scriptures refer to human being. Paul isn't saying we have no battle against sinful body, he meant our fight is not against human beings.

So you can't provide screenshots of what led that to my statement, lying liar!

That is what it is!

Yeah! Paul didn't say so, YOU DID! which is the reason I said YES WE HAVE NO BATTLE WITH SINFUL NATURE.

You can see you've lost on this thread.

So flesh and blood cannot inherit God's kingdom is reffering to human beings not being able to possess heaven. Scripture said The earth he gave to humans.

LIAR! You change God's kingdom = Possess heaven

because you know it contradicts your flesh and blood living forever on earth which is still part of God's kingdom.

So using 1 Corinthians 15:50 to proof Flesh and bones can't go to heaven is gross misunderstanding of the scripture.

Barristter07:
BARNES cannot save you ... Recall it again.

You can do that yourself!

Barristter07:
Nature of God doesn't possess flesh and blood. It doesn't have it. You are deluded.

Stop giving your appellation to other, you're the grand deluded here.

The nature of God in Christ house by flesh and bones.

How come the Last Adam is flesh and bones, yet those ressurected are spirit??

Where did you see resurrected spirit?

Who are those RESURRECTED AS SPIRIT?

Sorry, it didn't say what is born of spirit is BY THE SPIRIT. Another lie spotted. He quickly concort words together. Mahn, no be toddlers dey here o

So explain again , emphasis on " IS SPIRIT "

See lack of comprehension!

That's why I asked you before, who is the SPIRIT?

Which you answer, God?

Then I provided proof from scripture that ALL BELIEVERS are born by God.