₦airaland Forum

Maximus69:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

This deluded one just seeking for my attention by all means.

Hear it again:

From the horse mouth itself

"If we are following a man undoubtedly it will be different with us; undoubtedly one human idea would contradict another and that which was light one or two or six years ago would be regarded as DARKNESS now:..."

But is actually happening today

What Russell and his pagan team considered LIGHT many years ago are now considered DARKNESS today, which means it was just man made doctrines as rightly said by the writer

If they were following man made traditions, there wouldn't have been speedy changes over the years!

The "SPEEDY CHANGE OVER THE YEARS" you're talking about is what the above publication said it wouldn't have happened, had it been it was man made doctrine but as the reality has it that you actually have A SPEEDY CHANGE means it was man made.

No be me talk am but your own lying organization.

Certainly there is an unseen intelligent mighty spirit being leading them, to springs of waters where they're getting refreshed with new things!

That unseen intelligent mighty spirit being is SATAN for there won't be "NEW THINGS they're getting refreshed with" what the publication said to be LIGHT one or two or six years ago for truth if it'll stay million years will always remain TRUTH but unfortunately now, it has been discarded as DARKNESS. Which means it was truly man made.

Blabbermouth:
I'm not that much grounded in the Scriptures, i might not grab the point. Perhaps, you can drop the bible verses and give a commentary on them.

Since you're not that grounded in the scripture no need of wasting our time.

My point is, some scriptures make it look like the Father isn't all-knowing for instance; in the case of Abraham when God told him to sacrifice Isaac.

Notice how scripture puts this: Genesis 22:12 "And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me."

Now, what do we have here?

Many critics of Jesus for not knowing the day or hour of the last day will defend God here by saying "God is all-knowing but been selective or chooses when to use such ATTRIBUTE" Because they know some scriptures depict God as not all-knowing.

So just as some scriptures depict the Father as not all-knowing which didn't erase the scriptures that support the all-knowing of the Father, likewise we have scriptures where Jesus was said to be all-knowing and those that depict Jesus as not all-knowing.

Then we can reasonable conclude that the Father and the Son have such attribute but choose/selective when using it.

Janosky:
The Wailing of a Triune pagan IDOLS worshipper. Na today?

The accolade lying liar JWs

Here from the horse mouth itself

"If we are following a man undoubtedly it will be different with us; undoubtedly one human idea would contradict another and that which was light one or two or six years ago would be regarded as DARKNESS now:..."

But is actually happening today

What Russell and his pagan team considered LIGHT many years ago are now considered DARKNESS today, which means it was just man made doctrines as rightly said by the writer.

Blabbermouth:
Sir Emusan, do you have a bible verse for this?

I'll just give you a clue:
1. The fall of Morning star
2. The fall of Adam and Eve
3. The trial of Abraham killing Isaac
You can then read about it in the Bible.

NOTE: I'm not saying, the Father isn't all-knowing!
But let me see whether you will grab my point.

Janosky:
1. Peter made mistakes, Bros go and remove his name from the crown of life.

Bros, you done forgot your comment:
" But Peter didn't die in his disbelieve, does he?"

Yes! Peter didn't die in his disbelieve, does he?

That was the question for your lying liar mouth who tries to justify how Peter denied Jesus Christ three times with your pagan founder who died practicing idolatry.

So answer the dem question.

You believe in Cross,a pagan contraption.
You have ZERO evidence that Peter worshipped God with a Cross..

Delusional and brainwashed!

Who then says Peter worshipped God with a cross?

Therefore,the question is apt :
"Wetin concern Peter with the pagan contraption of the Cross ?.

Rather you're confused and lack simple comprehension.

But you brought Peter into the matter

So answer my question, did Peter die after denied Jesus Christ?

Bros, if you never chop since morning, please cry for help, your brain no dey reason well.
A hungry man can slap someone without
being provoked

The accolade lying liar JWs.

When you always forget your brain in the Hall before coming to public place.

unclemaths:
Name calling and emotions all over again!
JW indeed.. lol

Typical brainwashed JWs

Not your fault..
Person wey papa no call, if he like make he turn pastor, ending of day na still waste of time last last.

See painment and frustration.

John 6:44
44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them , and I will raise them up at the last day.

If una no understand simple English, eh, how una wan take understand Holy Scriptures?

Do you understand simple English yourself?

Especially as the Father of Jesus no call u..

because you're the Father of Jesus Himself that's why you can know who he called or not.

Me, eh, I sha know say na over-sabi pastors kill the Jesus sef for inside Bible.

See delusions, it's PASTORS that killed Jesus, delusion will never end.

Only Jehovah knows the kind of weed you people take in your Hall.

rottennaija:
What standard? Falsehood? Misappropriation of funds? Flipping kingdom halls for profit? (Lu 12:15) Hiding paedophiles? Misapplication of bible? Hatred? Worshiping the governing body? Lying both in public and in court? Joining the United Nations? (1 Co 10:7,14) Tossing members about by every wind of changing doctrine? (Eph 4:14)

Not the standard I have any interest in keeping.

See how the demonic organization exposed their own false religion.

And today, the modern JWs have regarded their teachings DARKNESS. Definitely, it's because their doctrines are man made, as rightly said by them.

Janosky:
Mr LIENUS, Wetin concern Peter with your pagan contraption of cross?

Mr LIENUS dey DECEIVE himself

I know you're short of memory and it's because your brainwashing has passed beyond redemption.

You brought Peter into this by saying

Peter deny Jesus Christ three times, Bros, go and remove his name from the crown of life, Mr LIENUS

Only to ask in your next post

Mr LIENUS, Wetin concern Peter with your pagan contraption of cross?

Mr LIENUS dey DECEIVE himself

It will take more than 50 good resounding slaps to force sense into your deluded brain.

krushdripper:
Mtcheiw.. You have absolutely no idea what science is.

If we search now, you might have never entered laboratory before talk less of reperforming one single experiment of any of the greatest scientists.

Rather than what you read on Google

rottennaija:
Screenshot of some reasons

So much for the self acclaimed most loving family on earth.
Imagine, how long these people have been wearing fake smile to the Hall.

LordReed:
[img]https://media./images/fe40d38bf37f6c6ad149b2dd5b0c2495/tenor.gif[/img]

But you've been claiming FAA doesn't assume a flat earth model for flight training.

Why keeping mute?

Preciousgirl:
John 17:5

And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

So Jesus shared Glory with the Father before even the word was, wooooow

Who is this Jesus?

Remember God shares His glory with no one

To claim to know who Jesus is, is to make yourself the very Yahweh!

Jesus Himself said:

“My Father has handed over everything to me. Indeed, no one fully knows the Son except the Father, and no one fully knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son wishes to reveal him. Mat 11:27 CJB

The Son reveals who the Father is to us in His person why the scripture reveals to us what we need to know about the Son!

aygbolly2:
Good evening nlanders.. I'm asking this question out of curiosity after thinking about certain things that occur in life. Now, when a child is born, he/she automatically practises the religion of the parent and the probability that the child will practise the inherited religion till death is almost total except in rare cases where the child converts into another religion.

I am a Muslim by the way, because my parents are also Muslims and what my religion says is that any religion besides Islam is not acceptable by Allah and I have also learnt that Christianity also preaches that whosoever doesn't accept Jesus as his Lord and savior will not be granted the kingdom of heaven..

However, in most cases, a child inherits religion, and clearly whether he/she enters heaven or hell according to either religion is not his/her decision but that of the parent and ancestors.

I personally assume that this doesn't signify justice and fairness by God to the child if he/she eventually falls on the wrong side i.e end up practising the wrong religion but what we have always been told is that God is a fair and just God.

The only question I'll ask you is this;

Have you heard people converting from one religion to another i.e Christianity to Islam, Islam to Hindu, Buddhism to Christianity e.t.c

Then why?

Janosky:
John 15:15, Jesus teach what his God and Father taught him, very honest and perfect.
Jesus no be WAYO man like you who forge and twists the holy scriptures.


How will you equate the thinking of imperfect men with the thinking of the perfect Jesus Christ?

Matthew24:36, did Jesus Christ claim he knows all things?


Mark 10:40
But I do not have the right to choose who will sit at my right and my left. It is God who will give these places to those for whom he has prepared them."

Una WAYO too much, Jesus Christ is not Almighty God.

The accolade and lying liar JWs is here!

Never receive sense to contribute meaningfully on a thread but always spewing thrashes up and down.

Read my post and read your comment to see whether they correlate.

haddeylium:
Why is your friend getting emotional over an harmless question?

Who is getting emotional?

“why didn't Jesus know about the day or hour?

Of course, why wouldn't the almighty God know about the day he appointed to execute his Judgement?(Act 1:7)

Why didn't the all-knowing Father know the action of mortal men he created before happening?

When Jesus a mighty God knows who will betray Him from beginning.

If what you mean is ; if God predestined human acts?....NO!

And who is talking about predestined here

of course Jesus' disciples are right when they see the reflection of what Jesus learnt from his God(John 12:49)
So, If the father does not reveals the appointed day or hour to Jesus, angels or any being?
What makes them?

Do you think the Father can hide anything from the Son who they are ONE?

Maximus69:
You should have understood me better by now, i only add "ARGUMENTATIVE" when you are arguing fruitlessly.

Hypocrite and deluded JWs

But now you labelled another commentator [b]"Wicked" and as someone i know before i decided to reason with you on what could have prompted his comment.

That's why people know you as dull and unintelligent person.

Only you couldn't get the drift of my post!

Chatting with you is meaningless because you often speak out of a mind filled with anger!

But you keep quoting someone with a meaningless post. That shows your life is meaningless.

haddeylium:
I should agree with Jesus about He that is all-knowing
Father-only knows about the day or hour
Neither Jesus or the angels

So, only the Father is all-knowing

So because only the Father knows about the day or hour means He is all-knowing but what of the verses that depicts the same Father of not KNOWING an actions before taking place?

So we can then conclude that the Father isn't all-knowing, do you agree?

That's the problem you people have, when you don't read inbtw contents to know the authors intent.

haddeylium:
If truly Jesus' is all-knowing Why didn't he know about the day or hour?

Do you agree God is all knowing?

Maximus69:
Why do you say so?

He is speaking based on the level of his understanding, the truth remains that once the leader is using a helicopter to preach none of his followers will humbly preach like Jesus did: with foot from house to house and door to door!

Though the Bàbá doesn't know what Jesus preached and taught so he can't lay down the same thing for his gaggles!

Now you didn't add ARGUMENTATIVE your usual rant because you couldn't bear my post and there's a need for you to chat me.

JWs madness!

Amotolongbo:
You Jehova witness do not need it sir. Cos you won’t be able to use your umbrella inside copters and jets

You're a wicked somebody

unclemaths:
Emotions can mislead..
Do not read out of context. Your explanations must align with other portions of the Bible. It's just like simultaneous linear equations: the roots must satisfy all valid factors.

Are you trying to proof that Jesus didn't know all things?

Matthew 24:36
(New International Version)

36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

So what does this proof?

John 11:41-42
41 So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, “Father, I thank you that you have heard me. 42 I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me.”

John 6:44
44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.


John 20:17
17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father  and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

How does this relate to the thread?

Philippians 2:5-9
5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature  of a servant, being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
    he humbled himself
    by becoming obedient to death—
        even death on a cross!

9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
    and gave him the name that is above every name

Carefully, think about that @color

 

If anyone disputes these holy writings, then, that person is saying that the son of God did not die for him/her.

The OP also supported his post with scripture.

Are you saying what he quoted aren't part of the Holy writings?

Igbochief001:
serious steel business is no business china has killed the business ....

best thing is to have duty free steel import so that companies can import steel as raw materials and use them to produce things ....that's why I look at Nigerians fighting for ajokuta

china has killed steel industry completely

It's a lie, KAM reinforcement is the best local steel in Nigeria markert.

And many Engineers who know the worth are going for it.

I love working with KAM reinforcement!

Janosky:
Peter deny Jesus Christ three times, Bros, go and remove his name from the crown of life, Mr LIENUS

But Peter didn't die in his disbelieve, does he?

The Accolade and lying liar JWs

Janosky:
From Emusan criptures not the holy SCRIPTURES

The Mr accolade is here again!

It is me who wrote Isaiah 48:13

CJB
My hand laid the foundation of the earth, my right hand spread out the heavens; when I summoned them, at once they rose into being.

It is me who wrote Nehemiah 9:6

“‘You are Adonai, you alone. You made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their array, the earth and all the things that are in it, the seas and all that is in them; and you preserve them all. The army of heaven worships you.

It is me who wrote Job 9:8

He alone spreads out the sky and walks on the waves in the sea.

It is me who wrote Isaiah 44:24

Here is what Adonai says, your Redeemer, he who formed you in the womb: “I am Adonai, who makes all things, who stretched out the heavens all alone, who spread out the earth all by myself.

Your man made doctrine of God uses a creature doesn't have any place in the Word of God.

The LIENUS knows that Job 38:7 and Hebrews 1:2 , John 1:3 are part and parcel of the holy SCRIPTURES inspired by God.

The deluded Mr accolade, Job 38:7 says "...Sons of God" so Jesus was not the only FIRST CREATED being (according to your man made doctrine) at that time but MANY Sons of God!

Just like I do say, you people lack scriptural understanding but always thinking you know it all.

I've explained that Job 38:7 to one of your deluded brother before, that was when God prepared earth to be habitable.

Verses 9-10 still show it was Yahweh who was performing the action not a created being.

9 when I(Yahweh) made the clouds its blanket and dense fog its swaddling cloth, 10 when I(Yahweh) made the breakers its boundary
set its gates and bars,

Unless you want to tell us, this is a creature voice.

Job 38:4-7, Bros RECEIVE SENSE

Sons of God (MANY) contradicts your man made doctrine of ONE CREATURE was used.

You'll never received sense.

Have you delete Hebrew 1:2 from your Bible?

Heb 1:2 corroborates Nehemiah 9:6. Yahweh can't lie to prophet Nehemiah that He ALONE made the heaven of heavens when it was someone who was actually doing it.

So it's either you accept the statement of Yahweh Himself which Heb 1:2 attributed to His Son who is the eternal Word of Yahweh or you continue to die in your man made doctrine.

No two ways about it!

Maximus69:
Sinner simply means 'one who is prone to error' therefore a repentant sinner becomes God's child when he realize his blunder and made a u-turn.
The Organization have always quoted Proverbs 4:18 to remind all members that we began from the scratch when all the religious groups claiming Christian on planet earth have gone off course!

The ability to motivate yourself on self destruction is what makes you jump from thread to thread.

So they made mistakes back then and we are making amendments gradually till today,

What happened to those who died in these mistakes (plural)?

Why would Jehovah allow someone who made mistakes part of His Son's heavenly call?

that's why we are improving while all you TRINITARIANS keep arguing, abusing, insulting and even cursing one another!

Trinitarian is your nightmares, keep feasting on it.

[s]Go and try to reconcile your beliefs with any of your cohorts, then you'll realize how PEACE will reign between you and your TRINITY adherents! [/s]

To the bin!

Janosky:
Cross have ZERO connection to Christianity practiced by Jesus Christ and his followers.
It's a pagan contraption adopted by Christendom

Yet your idolatry leader and organization used CROSS for many years when your created god even started the demonic organization with him.

Maximus69:
That's why TRINITY failed woefully to make sure PEACE reign in the midst of TRINITARIANS!

TRINITY often does everything alone, so you guys don't need to do anything to support it's work but singing, dancing around and waiting for TRINITY to bring about PEACE amongst you all by itself!

Don't bother Sir, i garrit! i garrit!!

Self delusions again and still playing the game of derailing.

All points have been from the scripture but coming with this distracting tactics won't help you.

But Jehovah created Michael (Jesus), assigned him to join in his works

Now see the delusion we're talking about, speaking from both side of the mouth.

So Jehovah ONLY ASSIGNED Jesus to JOIN HIS WORK but the man made doctrine you people have been following is "Jehovah used Jesus to create all OTHER things"

Even if that is granted, which WORK IN PARTICULAR Jehovah assigned to Jesus.

1. Wisdom(Jesus as you claimed for Prov Himself confirmed that it was Yahweh who was doing the act of creation by Himself.

2. YAHWEH affirmed this in Isaiah 44:24, Job 9:8, NEH 9:6 by saying He created it ALONE and by HIMSELF

3. Yahweh also authoritatively said "when I (Yahweh) laid the foundation or when I (Yahweh) made the cloud in Job 38:8

4. To even make the matter worst for you, Yahweh said it was the creation He issued command to DIRECTLY and not another creature. Isa 48:13

5. Yahweh said His own RIGHT HAND laid the foundation of the earth and stretched out the heavens Isa 48:13

6. Job 9:8 says Yahweh ALONE spreads out the heavens and treadeth upon the massive waves of waters.

All these mean God is lying when it was another being doing it and not Himself.

[s]and ever since then Jehovah has been giving other intelligent creatures like Maximus69 and millions of his Witnesses {Hebrew 12:1} the privilege to join him as his co-workers {1Corinthians 3:9} that's why Jehovah's Witnesses are zealously preaching and industriously teaching their neighbours in preparation for the new world, each of them is first of all humble at heart and secondly they're able to learn what righteosness truly means {Zephaniah 2:2-3} no wonder they're always noticed joyfully sharing with their neighbours what they knew {Malachi 3:16} that's why their own FAITH is working as expected {Hebrew 11:1} unlike all other religions whose FAITH is jobless and dead! James 2:18-26[/s]

Irrelevant!

No hiding place for your delusional

Thanks Mr Emusan i'm getting the drift Sir!

Nobody demands that from you! Keep it to yourself.

Maximus69:
OK i garrit! i garrit!!

TRINITY was talking to itself!

See what brainwash has done to your life!

Still putting effort to deviate from the main point. I know your style.

In case you forget, the question still remains;

If He participated during creation, what exactly did He do? That was the question...

We have seen from the scripture.
~Yahweh created everything ALONE and by HIMSELF!
~Yahweh gave commands DIRECTLY to the things created and not to a creature.

Looking for excuses to deviate from the main point.

Maximus69:
Delusional and shameless liar Maximus69!

Even if stubbornness is blurring your senses, are you also saying God was speaking to nobody when he said
"let us make man in our own image" Genesis 1:26

When foolishness won't allow you to reason,
The Word of God and The Holy Spirit who are eternally one with the Father were there.

Walahi Talahi this your TRINITY no get shame!

Imagine TRINITY no get shame!

oponu

Maximus69:
He participated during creation, when God said "let us make man in our own image" {Genesis 1:26} JEHOVAH was talking to his spirit son Jesus (Michael)
Proverbs 8:22-31 compare to John 1:1-5; Colossians 1:15-16

If He participated during creation, what exactly did He do? That was the question...

We have seen from the scripture.

~Yahweh created everything ALONE and by HIMSELF!
~Yahweh gave commands DIRECTLY to the things created and not to a creature.

Maximus69:
So why is his name not known globally like that of Bill Gate?

Truly they think they're wise but became fools
Is Paul Allen not co-founder of Microsoft?

Maximus69:
Please tell us the name he presented to you as his co-owner of Microsoft?

Paul Allen is the name of co-founder of Microsoft.

Can you even see that you lack knowledge?