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Maximus69:
Are you saying Bill Gate did not build his business empire by himself?

Yes Bill Gates never claims to build his business empower by himself, you can provide the evidence here.

Maximus69:
Bill Gate built his business empower all by himself, but there are workers who served under him as he was giving them orders on how he wanted his business!

Olodo....

Your man made doctrine of God uses a creature is greatly affecting sense of reasoning.

Can you provide evidence for the @underlined above

Or let me put it this way, kindly provide from Bill Gates own statement where he claimed to do it ALL BY HERSELF?

Even Bill Gates doesn't own MICROSOFT alone.

So God created everything you're seeing today

ALONE AND BY HIMSELF

but he made use of his intelligent creatures like you and i to make life sweeter with Electricity, Telecommunication, Transportation and so on

Shows us where God made use of any creature in the creation account.

Even Isaiah 48:13 has this to say


CJB
My hand laid the foundation of the earth, my right hand spread out the heavens; when I summoned them, at once they rose into being.

CEV
With my own hand I created the earth and stretched out the sky. They obey my every command.

ESV
My hand laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand spread out the heavens; when I call to them, they stand forth together.

GNT
My hands made the earth's foundations and spread the heavens out. When I summon earth and sky, they come at once and present themselves.

NLT
It was my hand that laid the foundations of the earth, my right hand that spread out the heavens above. When I call out the stars, they all appear in order.”



Not only does YAHWEH making affirmative statement about how His very OWN HAND laid the foundation of the earth and spread out heavens, the most interesting part is @underlined where it was boldly written that THE COMMANDMENTS of Yahweh were directly given to the very THINGS CREATED not to another creature.

But Jesus was his first employee that's all!

So what did Jesus do as first employee of God?

Maximus69:
@bloodofthelamb, it's either you agree with JWs that God created Jesus (Michael) or that God created his own wisdom as your TRINITY cohorts are insinuating.

There's no third option Sir!

Who among us said God created His own wisdom here?

Shameless Lying mouth.

When it's obvious here that you are the very one who that statement should be directed at because you claimed the wisdom in Prov 8 (even when your lying organization says it's wisdom personification) is Jesus Christ and Jesus was a created being according to you yet the Scripture said Jesus Christ is the VERY WISDOM OF GOD.

So it means God created His own wisdom!

You have been shown in various verses and versions how God ALONE and by HIMSELF created heavens and earth, yet you are wallowing in your delusions of God using another creature AGENT which then makes God a liar something boldly written in the scripture.

Here are more verses that put your man made doctrine of God uses a creature AGENT into dustbin.

Job 9:8

CJB
He alone spreads out the sky and walks on the waves in the sea.

CEV
God alone stretched out the sky, stepped on the sea,

DARBY
Who alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the high waves of the sea;

DRA
Who alone spreadeth out the heavens, and walketh upon the waves of the sea.

GNV
He himself alone spreadeth out the heavens, and walketh upon the height of the Sea.

GW
He stretches out the heavens by himself and walks on the waves of the sea.

GNT
No one helped God spread out the heavens or trample the sea monster's back.

In fact I love the way GNT rendered that verse!

And also, it was written here that at creation Yahweh is the one walking on water as supported by Genesis 1:2 but unfortunately for you, your man made doctrine teaches that it's the ACTIVE FORCE of God.

[b]Nehemiah 9:6

KJ21
Thou, even Thou, art Lord alone; Thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens with all their host, the earth and all things that are therein, the seas and all that is therein; and Thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshipeth Thee.

ASV
Thou art Jehovah, even thou alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth and all things that are thereon, the seas and all that is in them, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.

CEB
You alone are the Lord. You alone made heaven, even the heaven of heavens, with all their forces. You made the earth and all that is on it, and the seas and all that is in them. You preserve them all, and the heavenly forces worship you.

CJB
“‘You are Adonai, you alone. You made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their array, the earth and all the things that are in it, the seas and all that is in them; and you preserve them all. The army of heaven worships you.[/b]

The @underlined phrase "and you preserve them all" is the same wording in Hebrew 1:3 when we read that the Son is the one who sustain all creation by His power.

Anuoluwa1234:
Lol .. HV forgotten it at home

But this is an online class

My friend submit your assignment

Maximus69:
Your PERSONAL opinion Sir!

Which one is your own opinion?

Jesus (Michael) in his prehuman existence is the one speaking not some imaginary wisdom Sir!

This is good since you boldly say it's Jesus speaking, now let's look into the text of that Prov 8 and see if it's not YAHWEH Himself speaking.

ANALYSIS OF PROV 8

10 Receive my (Wisdom/Jesus) instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.

Where was Jesus ever issue instruction in the OT? No where we only know about Yahweh instructions.

13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I (wisdom/Jesus) hate.

We all know only Yahweh ever said to hate evil, pride and arrogant people.

15 By me (wisdom/Jesus) kings reign, and princes decree justice.

16 By me (Wisdom/Jesus) princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.

This is what only YAHWEH know for not any created being.

17 I love them that love me (Wisdom/Jesus); and those that seek me (Jesus) early shall find me.


This even nailed your dull brain because it's only YAHWEH people have been SEEKING not a created being, doing so will amount to idolatry.

18 Riches and honour are with me (Jesus); yea, durable riches and righteousness.

Whereas it's only YAHWEH who possesses RICHES and Honor.

21 That I may cause those that love me (Jesus) to inherit substance; and I (Jesus) will fill/bless their treasures.

This is your Jesus claiming to be the one blessing people the only prerogative known about Yahweh throughout the OT.

There was never a time God began possessing WISDOM as an attributes, it has always been his own, just like all other attributes like POWER, JUSTICE, LOVE, PATIENCE, KINDNESS and many more.

That's why we've been telling you that it was the ETERNAL WISDOM of Yahweh speaking there not a created being, that was the time YAHWEH BROUGHT FORTH His own wisdom to create heavens and earth which is the reason Yahweh can authoritative says He created heavens ALONE and BY HIMSELF.

The person speaking @ Proverbs 8:22-31 is a separate entity telling us the part he played during creation that's all! John 1:1-5

But the same person speaking said

"26 While as yet he(Yahweh) had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.

27 When he( Yahweh) prepared the heavens, I was there: when he(Yahweh) set a compass upon the face of the depth:

28 When he(Yahweh) established the clouds above: when he(Yahweh) strengthened the fountains of the deep:

29 When he(Yahweh) gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he(Yahweh) appointed the foundations of the earth:

When the speaker can simply say, "When I was commanded to establish the clouds above or I was commanded to appoint the foundations of the earth."

It was Trinitarians who misinterpreted John 1:1 where they rendered it "and the word was God" instead of "and the word was a god"

How does this relate to John 1:1?

All these verses in the scripture that confirmed Jesus deity always hitting you people hard.

But all these is just paperwork arguement Sir, go and make use of the wisdom your God possessed to unite all of you just as Michael (Jesus) prayed for his followers saying "they should be one" as in having the same line of thought! John 17:21-23

Another Mumbo jumbo!

No wonder, divorce is rampage in your midst and even parent can prevent their daughter from marrying another witness.

Jehovah's Witnesses who claims that Jesus is angel Michael have succeeded in forming one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers, whereas LOOK! Politics and Racism is devastating all other religions! Luke 11:23

The same family that hates each other but only pretending to love each other in the Hall.

At least you agreed it's your demonic organization who CLAIMED JESUS is Michael and not the Holy Scripture.

Maximus69:
So the phrase "By myself" appeared in that Bible book we are discussing shey?
Well Jehovah always say so because he's the master brain behind creation but as regards all his works Jehovah always make use of his intelligent creatures giving them the privilege to participate. When he wanted to deliver Israel from slavery he first of all trained Moses (a violent man) to become the meekest man before using him, he made him like a God!
Today God is bringing all people together as one but he is using humans to achieve this, the same way he used Michael during creation!

Always spewing thrashes.

It means God is lying by claiming the creation was done BY HIMSELF AND ALONE!

Of course Jesus (Michael) is his first creature so Michael could say "before everything else i was born" {Proverbs 8:24-25} so the same person explained what he meant by "before his works of old"

Like I do say, if you have studied that Prov 8 very well you won't continue to be living in the delusion of those men.

According to Prov 8, Yahweh Himself was carrying out the acts of creation not another being which the SPEAKER HIMSELF said.

And this was confirmed by Yahweh Himself in Isaiah 44:24 and Job 38

This is what Blabbermouth keep saying, you're now imputing your own interpretation here, the person speaking is not some imaginary wisdom but an entity on his own otherwise he couldn't have been asked to sit at God's right hand if he's not a separate person! Psalms 110:1

See this deluded person, wasn't boldly written from the beginning of the same chapter that it was WISDOM who is speaking and even your demonic organization has once said about Prov 8 as being WISDOM personification.

Jesus is the wisdom and power of your God.

No wonder you don't have mind of your own rather following the doctrine of men.

krushdripper:
For your information OP, I took a flight from Jos to Lagos few months ago & we flew at an extra high altitude for a while where any one with eyes on thier head can visibly see the curvature to the roundness of the earth, so what'd flat motherfreakin earth are you fvcking talking about?? I don't even need to take a flight to be gaddamn certain that the earth is spherical, no insult intended but you must be hella really sick upstairs to argue for a flat earth to this point.

@underlined you can lie ooooo

From inside plane you're seeing earth curvature

Blabbermouth:
Emusan sir, please go ahead.

Before I quote, tell me your own understanding of who God is!

Now another dimension, it's ACCOLADE

Janosky:
**[b]1
WAYO man, does your Bible begin and end with only Genesis?

What does that mean here?

**2)
@ Genesis 1:27, Genesis 5:1-2. Isaiah 45:21, Job 4: did Yahweh not ascribe the credit to Himself?
Yahweh says he alone rightly gets all the accolades.

Shameless liar!

See dubious interpretation....

Yahweh claimed the accolade, is that how someone claims credit? ode!

ALONE and BY MYSELF.... will forever hunt you.

If you dey reason well, ask yourself:
Was John, Paul and the writers (Solomon) of Proverbs present at the Creation?

Which means Jehovah lied through them.

Not at all...

But Yahweh revealed further info about the Creation to John (@John1:3)
to Solomon (@Proverbs8:22-30)
to Paul (@ Hebrews1:2.
Yahweh created the Universe THROUGH His son.
@ Hebrew 1:2, John 1:3, Prov8:22-30, the credit & accolades still goes to Yahweh.

The son is the eternal wisdom and power of Yahweh which Proverbs 8 talks about not a separate created being, that was the reason YAHWEH can boldly say "ALONE and BY MYSELF" because His eternal wisdom is eternally part of Him.

In other words,I built the House Through my son. Is that difficult to understand?

But you can't claim you build the house ALONE and BY YOURSELF

Just as every believers believe that God is the inspiration behind the writing of the scripture but can any believer say "God was the one who personally WROTE DOWN THE SCRIPTURES BY HIMSELF?"

@Romans 11:35-36. Ephesians 4:6. 3:14-15, by inspiration, Paul gives all the accolades to Yahweh).

Dubious JWs turning AFFIRMATIVE STATEMENT into accolade.

Yahweh said he created heavens ALONE and BY MYSELF.

Take note, Paul @ Ephesians 4:6. 3:14-15, Romans 11:35-36 corroborates Genesis 1:27, Genesis 5:1-2.
@Matthew 19:4-6, whom did Jesus give the accolades & credit for Creation?
Yahweh, off course!

Mr accolade....

Hear the word of Yahweh "ALONE and BY MYSELF"

The Bible @ John1:3 @Proverbs8:22-30.
@ Hebrews1:2. , is inspired by Yahweh.

Then why was YAHWEH giving himself ACCOLADE

You said in three different ways
1. Paul gives all the accolades to Yahweh).
2. the credit & accolades still goes to Yahweh.
3. Yahweh says he alone rightly gets all the accolades

Yet it was YAHWEH who inspired ALL THESE ACCOLADE

Mr Accolade Weldon ooo

Be humble and accept it even though it discredited your Yahoo claim of triune deity

Continue to be arrogant and liar

Maximus69:
Please kindly quote the word "myself" in that Bible book!

Lying liar! He didn't even know his own demonic translation has the word MYSELF

"This is what Jehovah says, your Repurchaser, Who formed you since you were in the womb: “I am Jehovah, who made everything. I (Yahweh) stretched out the heavens BY MYSELF, And I (Yahweh) spread out the earth. Who was with me?"

Emusan is deceiving himself because the one speaking said from verse 22 "The Lord produce me in the beginning of his works" and throughout that book this person kept referring to someone else NOT himself!

BEFORE HIS WORKS OF OLD....wo the speaker can't be the first created when he's already exists before the first work begins.

Where Emusan dribbled you is omitting verses 30-31 where the speaker clearly stated that he was beside his Creator working as a craftman or someone rendering service as an hired labourer!

You're still drowning in your delusions.

Was God lying in Isaiah that He did it ALONE and BY HIMSELF and also in Job that "when I"?

Why will God say such when in reality someone was there helping Him?

And he concluded by saying out of all what he worked out with his director he loved humans the most!

Isn't your WISDOM the master worker of whatever you do?

Can you do anything without your wisdom?

Blabbermouth:
Emusan ain't deceiving himself here, He brought it out of the horses' mouth.

You can see it was boldly written in the scripture that God did the creative works ALONE and by HIMSELF

So by this you should know who is calling God a liar.

God said - "MYSELF".... Does this verse 30-31 negate every of the verses he quoted?

To say another being HELPED God is to call God a liar with those undeniable scriptures.

Besides, even the very Prov 8:22 didn't support someone else was already created before Yahweh's work

Hmmm.... Sir Emusan, What say ye?

John 1:3 is enough to show you that nobody HELPED God in creative works because if not it means Jesus created Himself.

Maximus69:
Continue deceiving yourself!

Says the person some group of men are deceiving everyday.

I agree that all what Michael was saying was about Jehovah been the one issuing the orders but please Sir, why do you omit verse 30-31 which reads

Where was the name MICHAEL appeared in those verses? You can see how his boldly lying against the scripture.

[30]then i was beside him as a workman,i was the one he is specially fund of, i rejoice before him all the time [31]I rejoice over his habitable earth and what i loved most (out of the works we did together) were humans"

Like I do say, proverbs 8 isn't what you can used to support your lying doctrine.

Start from the same verse 22 to know the person who is talking wasn't a CREATURE rather an ETERNAL PART OF YAHWEH HIMSELF.

It read "The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his (Yahweh) way, before his works of old."

I know what your mind can phantom about this verse is the part the 8 men have blocked your dull head with which is "The LORD possessed me..." but have you ever consider the other part of the statement?
"...in the BEGINNING of his (Yahweh) way..."

This isn't about creation but the very eternity of Yahweh, as this commentator puts it "Man was not by him when he did it (Job 38:4), nor did any creature advise or assist; only his own eternal wisdom and Word was by him then as one brought up with him," Prov. 8:30

In fact, the speaker shows that it wasn't part of Yahweh's work by saying "before his (Yahweh) works of old" Jesus should have been the very OLDEST WORK OF YAHWEH according to your doctrine yet the speaker says he was "BEFORE his works of old"

The more you're trying to use that Prov 8 the more you keep exposing your ignorance of the scripture.

So who was beside who as a craftman? John 1:1-5

The eternal wisdom of Yahweh and when we also know that Christ is the wisdom of God.

Maximus69:
Well it's simple, God began his creative works with just one creature who spoke in the Bible book of Proverbs 8:22-30, there we got to know that when God was saying "let there be" {Genesis 1:3}he was actually issuing orders to this first creature who is carrying out all the works as a master craftman.

I wonder how you'll read Proverbs 8:22-30 and still spew this thrash, it's evident you never take your time to read it on your own because if you do, you would have seen how you're calling God a liar.

Like I do say, if you people know the implication of using Prov 8 to proof another being doing the work of creation on behalf of God, you won't rather try it.

Prov 8 explicitly stated that it was YAHWEH who is actually performing the act not ANOTHER BEING. Just as other OT writers also confirmed it.

26 While as yet he (Yahweh) had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.

27 When he (Yahweh) prepared the heavens, I was there: when he (Yahweh) set a compass upon the face of the depth:

28 When he (Yahweh) established the clouds above: when he (Yahweh) strengthened the fountains of the deep:

29 When he (Yahweh) gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he (Yahweh) appointed the foundations of the earth:

No wonder Isaiah testifies that Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens ALONE; that spreadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF;"

But JWs are calling God a liar when it was boldly written in the scripture that it's God who did it by Himself.

Even when God questioning Job about his dark knowledge of creation, the questions were "when I" not when I asked "someone else"

Job 4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,

Blabbermouth:
Ni bó ni kí a ti bèrè?
Me I don't know much ooo, all I need is a proof of Jesus being Divine becoming Human with the old testament only.

So, how will you understand the question you yourself asked? If you don't know what makes God to be God.

Blabbermouth:
I'm not disputing the eternity... I'm saying eternal in what state? As a person?

And where did the word ETERNITY appear in my post?

Is Christ not a person before?

Blabbermouth:
John 1:1 "In the beginning was the word"... Is the WORD a Person?

I quoted 1 John 1:1-2 for you where Jesus Christ was said to be ETERNAL

but you jumped to ask me another question.

Deal with 1 John first.

Is your word a person? So far, I see an Eternal Spirit and an Eternal God. As for me, I see God as " Higher than a Person"...

The Son said to be ETERNAL in that verse.

Deal with that first before we move to another!

Blabbermouth:
With the Old testament only, proof that Jesus was "Divinity become Humanity"

Before I continue with this, I'll simply ask you this so that we can have a base to start.

1. To you, what makes God to be God? (just list, no explanation is required)

Blabbermouth:
Bible verse please!

About the Father - KJV: The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them. Deu 33:27

KJV:  Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen 1 Tim 1:17

About the Son - That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; (for the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us) 1 John 1:1-2 KJV

About the Holy Spirit - How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? Hebrews 9:14


You can see how scripture said THE THREE PERSONS are ETERNAL.

Now back to my questions, is God eternal?

If Trinity wasn't Biblical, how can you explain THREE DIFFERENT PERSONS said to be ETERNAL?

Maximus69:
Walahi Talahi you guys just dey fall my hand i swear!

At least you know your brothers are falling your hand

Why not leave Emusan to go and force his Johhannine Comma in all other translations of the Bible?

Why are you so bitter about those who have the johannine Comma in their translations?

Abi it's Jehovah's Witnesses that translated all other versions that refused to add his Comma?

The purpose of this thread is to present the evidences that support the credibility of the COMMA which I did and as more facts are being unearth like the UMLAUT (Double dots) that was discovered in 1995 from oldest Greek manuscript - Vaticanus which appears rightly where the COMMA appeared in many translations today.

So, most translations that didn't have the COMMA based on the early points listed on page 2 of this thread might reconsider at new edition but the most important thing is, will JWs have COMMA in their translation as others will be reviewing theirs?

Peacefullove:
Cyprian quoted a phrase from verse 8 and applied it to Trinity . No such verse existed , so he only quoted and misapplied the phrase. For such verse to exist , he would have quoted it.

Shameless lying liar!

The @color part is what I'm actually waiting for your lying mouth to vomit.

Everyone can see how shameless your are now.

Blabbermouth:
It's a bitter truth to some but at the end of the day, it is what it is - Trinity is unbiblical.
The only issue I have with JW's stand in the Trinity or No Trinity doctrine is them falsely equating Jesus with Angel Michael.
That's outrageously false!!!

If Trinity is umbilical!

1. How come there are THREE persons identified in the scripture to be ETERNAL?

2. Is God not ETERNAL?

Peacefullove:
If such a verse existed , That which is written which mentions Father , son and Holy spirit would have been QUOTED . For him Not to have quoted it, He was applying verse 8 to the TRINITY. Told you this without number, when will you learn ??

Shameless liar!

Was verse 8 about the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost?

No wonder you can't give straight answer to the question because your lying mouth will be exposed.

How can Cyprian apply verse 8 which is not a TRINITARIAN VERSE to support Trinity and even went further to say "IT IS WRITTEN OF the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost..."

Such a verse existed and he could only make reference to ONlY a phrase ?? Guy.... Go and pray

Shameless idiot

Christ and the Apostles quoted many phrases from the Old Testament, does that mean those verses weren't in existence for them not to have quoted it in full?

Lying liar mouth!

Kobojunkie:
Read it to learn that !

Do you learn from people post or you think you're above them in scripture understanding?

Kobojunkie:
Ok. so go tell them to do that. I don't see what that has to do with any of what I am here for or have posted so far.

So what has your post up there got to do with the OP?

Peacefullove:
That u went ahead to indicate in a footnote that it's verse 7 proves you are indeed a Fraudster, If I didn't challenge you on who make that reference, You would have made it seem Cyprian himself did. Fraud

Shameless lying liar!

I've provided enough evidence to show that Cyprian actually quoted verse 7 but a lying mouth still deceiving himself that it's verse 8 without a single proof.

No wonder the lying liar couldn't answer the simple question, if verse 8 was about the the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit... for more than 10times the question has been thrown to him.

Peacefullove:
Learn to calm down , Cyprian ONLY quote " and these three are one " . U can't dispute that , and these appear also at verse 8.

Learn to be honest for once.

Does verse 8 about the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit?

This is the question you're still unable to answer since simply because you're of your father the devil.

If such a verse existed, he would have quoted it in full. Not a phrase , (" " ) , It's like you don't know the meaning of quote sef

A primary school English student knows when a simple sentence like "IT IS WRITTEN OF...." is made, the person is pointing to something except a dull and brain death JWs.

Here you testify he only quoted the phrase .

" this phrase "and these three are one" - Emusan

Was verse 8 about the persons of the Holy Trinity?

For Cyprian to have said "It is written of..."

No such verse existed. He only applied Trinity to verse 8

Idiot, even after provided the original translation of his work and even a 5th century bishop quoted his work to support the written of the same COMMA.

Does verse 8 about the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost?

You can't answer this because your work is a manifestation of your father the devil who is a liar from beginning.

Janosky:
False claim

Provide your own true claim!

SonOfALion:
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More points have been provided above

Thanks for your submission!

Janosky:
Clarke's Commentary on the Bible says it is likely this verse is not genuine

The KJV version "bear record in heaven, the Father, the word and the holy ghost" is radically different from other Bible translations.
It is a FRAUD , the evidence abounds.

Bros Fortran, No dey DECEIVE yourself

Hypocrite and liar JWs

This was Adam Clarke's conclusion

Though a conscientious believer in the doctrine of the ever blessed, holy, and undivided Trinity, and in the proper and essential Divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, which doctrines I have defended by many, and even new, arguments in the course of this work, I cannot help doubting the authenticity of the text in question; and, for farther particulars, refer to the observations at the end of this chapter.

https://biblehub.com/commentaries/clarke/1_john/5.htm

The funny thing about you hypocrite is that among those who totally rejected the insertion of 1 John 5:7 into Bible are TRINITARIANS.

In his commentaries on the same 1 John 5:21 Clarke says "And it is through this revelation of Jesus that we know the ever blessed and glorious Trinity; and the Trinity, Father, Word, and Holy Ghost, in the eternal, undivided unity of the ineffable Godhead."

@underlined -- We can see how Clarke used the same wordings as the COMMA does, which means Clarke didn't totally reject 1 John 5:7

AntiChristian:
Advocatejare, contractkiller come and defend this o!

The person you quoted was on this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/6032299/johannine-comma-1-john-5 but couldn't refute the evidences put forth.

MistadeRegal:
There are some people who lack understanding about the mission of our LORD JESUS CHRIST on earth, and due to their inability to understand, they misquote and misinterpret the Biblical record of Matthew 15:24, making their claims JESUS CHRIST never came for the world.

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Look up all the following Bible portions and read, for you might also come across same misconception of doctrines of theirs. They must not mislead you.
They are quick to conclude their belief on the above verse but never have the knowledge to understand the following verses:

Matthew 10:40
He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Luke 9:48
And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great.

Luke 10:16
He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.

Luke 22:35
And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.

Matthew 28:18-20 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

John 1:11-13 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

John 17:18-20, 24-26, Matthew 12:18-21, Luke 2:26-32, Acts 9:15, Acts 10:45, Acts 11:18, Acts 13:47-48, Romans 3:29, I Corinthians 12:13,

I hope these answers them and clear their misquotations and misconceptions.

It's probably those confused Muslims who usually make such statement.

Shameless lying mouth will never repent

Nothing to say about his ISV again.

No wonder he was so bitter over this thread.

Peacefullove:
I thought you would be reasonable by now, I was wrong . So you admitted it's only that phrase he QUOTED ??

See this nitwit, who needs to go back to primary since you couldn't understand simple English.

"IT IS WRITTEN OF THE FATHER, OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY GHOST"

Was verse 8 ever about the Father, son and Holy Ghost?

This question will continue to kill you which is the reason you can't answer.

if such verse exist , There would be a full quote. He quoted verse 8 and apply to TRINITY, that's why he only quoted the phrase alone.

It's the only COMMA the three persons of the Holy Trinity said to be ONE "And THESE THREE (Father, Son, Holy Ghost) are one"

Take to your dull skull again, v8 is "agree in one"

I even gave you an article written around the same time which quoted verse 8 the exact same way Cyprian quoted the phrase

He said "IT IS WRITTEN OF THE FATHER, OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY GHOST" does v8 has any connection with the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?

U are a fraudster , U even went to bring a document that indicated the verse he quoted in footnote, Is it Cyprian that indicated Chapter and Verse ??

Shameless liar and hypocrite!

That is the original translation of his work to English.

Olodo oshi...

But you know more than the people who translated it and put the footnote as v7

Even Fulgentius Ruspensis referred to Cyprian statement which is still about Trinity.

Fulgentius bishop of Ruspe in North Africa (died 527 AD) cited the Comma, even referring to Cyprian’s citation of the same:

In the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, whose unity of substance we accept, are confident not to confound the persons. For the blessed John the Apostle testifies, saying: ‘There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Spirit; and the three are one. This is also confessed by the most blessed martyr Cyprian in the letter On the Unity of the Church, saying: ‘He who breaks the peace and concord of Christ, he does against Christ’, who in another place says in addition to a collection of the Church, says, ‘scatters the Church of Christ’. And in order to show that there is one Church of the one God, he immediately inserted this into the testimonies of the Scriptures: ‘The Lord says: I and the Father are one. And again: of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit it is written: And the three are one.’”

Shameless fraudster and liar trying to discredit Cyprian evidence with his tiny skull full of sawdust.

Not even that he really agrees with Cyprian doctrines because Cyprian and many early Christian writers are Trinitarian but just wants to keep fooling himself.

Hypocrite!