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Barristter07:
John 3:6

So this verse means NOT EVERYONE IS ADOPTED SONS OF GOD, right?

a case of cognitive dissonance

No wonder you keep exposing your ignorance!

You change FLESH AND BLOOD to that sinful nature!

Start the screenshot from where the discussion start and see the reason why I gave that answer!

Barristter07:
This is what he called explanation so what position is that person if he is in that class ??

Everyone there is Greater than him including the least person, So he is not there.

It shows that you've actually list your sight and didn't follow my post.

I actually quoted BARNES NOTE on that

Now go back and read it again!

Barristter07:
Do you agree it means Jesus doesn't have God's nature??

The nature of God has always been in Jesus.

I've repeated this more than 5 times

Jesus also ate when he made tht statement remember ? He excreted too ??

Olodo...
Glorified body!

Guy , No worry . U don bite more than you can chew

Says the liar who can't provide scripture for what he claimed.

The explanation is clear enough. If you have a contrary opinion.

Now the explanation is clear enough but you keep confusing yourself!

Are we not going to be BORN BY THE LAST ADAM which is the reason Christ came?

Jesus is called the LAST ADAM because ALL BELIEVERS are BORN FROM HIM.

Okay, Explain what it means that What is born of spirit is spirit ?

- they have spirit

- they become holy spirit
- they become spirit beings.

Regeneration of the body by the Holy Spirit to be conformed with the Image of the LAST ADAM.

What is born of flesh is flesh...
What is born of spirit is spirit...

So all must be transformed from flesh by the spirit.

Barristter07:
And you committed the fallacy of calling John the least person ? Which you called Error ? So an error is now your explanation . No wonder you result to insult. You have lost this.

Like I said, I've explained that in my previous post!

Go back and check with your glasses!

Barristter07:
Born agains do not retain their human nature after ressurection . That's the first ressurection, they are adopted sons, What is born of spirit is Spirit. Like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly.


While others retain their human nature (Rev 21:3,4)

BUT WE ALL HAVE the same type of resurrection which is after that of LAST ADAM!

ALL BELIEVERS are adopted sons of God and are BORN BY GOD.

You can see how you keep dribbling yourself jumping from pillar to post when your lies are exposed.

Barristter07:
By the Fact that not everyone will experience the first ressurection as Spirit beings. Scriptural fact

Scriptural fact but you can't provide the scripture here!

This is what I asked of you

Where is the verse that says "NOT EVERYONE IS ADOPTED AS SONS"?

Put to death signifies battle. You actually lied that we have no battle against the sinful body.

Flesh and blood as used by Paul clearly refer to Human nature.

Lying liar, show where I said that we have no battle against the sinful body!

Mistake spirit is all over your post.

And your empty skull couldn't point them out!

Meanwhile:

Barristter07:
Spirit DOES NOT HAVE FLESH AND BONES

Unless you mean Jesus lied ??

See this deluded one who wants to heep his lie on top of another person.

Are you not the liar who say Jesus is a spirit when Jesus openly told His disciples that "See my hands, IT IS I MYSELF, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you SEE ME HAVE"

Yes , Humans of flesh and blood will live forever on Earth . Revelation 21:3,4 " Humans " . Creations God gave that name are flesh and blood , Genesis 5:2
More reason Adam and Even could exist as one when God created them.

So you agree that you misunderstood that verse where it's stated that "flesh and blood can't inherit the kingdom of God"

You are a Liar , how come believers will also be part of Second ressurection ??

ALL BELIEVERS ARE ADOPTED SONS OF GOD and born by God says the Holy scripture.

The only liar here are those who deny this.

Those who will rule with Christ are the only ones goin to heaven through the first ressurection.

Are they not human having human fathers with human nature according to you?

Barristter07:
He made it clear they are born by human father's and will retain their human nature.

But we're talking about RESURRECTION, isn't Christ the LAST ADAM who we're all going to born from?

No wonder you people don't have hope of born again because you don't know the meaning.

You are a Liar, no wonder you are shouting Error and mistake up and down .

Explain how John is lesser than the least person in God's kingdom ??

I've explained that, like I said carry your empty skull back to my previous posts you'll see it there!

Basit46:
Is there God?

Yes! I am a living witness.

Kobojunkiee:
Are you in some way suggesting that since Jesus Christ "didn't follow that example", we are then released from doing as He commands,

So you know Jesus didn't follow His own pattern of prayer which we can then ask:

Are we then restricted only to that pattern of prayer?

and free to concoct whatever prayer formulae we want?

So Jesus concocted that prayer at Gethsemane

Jesus concocted that prayer at Lazarus grave

The disciples concocted prayer that set Peter free in the prison.

I thought all these should have followed the pattern of the Lord's prayer!

hyuga:
Force bro!!! A greater force than the force of the bug or nylon

Make your point clear!

Barristter07:
Jozzy4 already did.

Where

Want I wanted from you now is : Give the correct explanation for the least person is greater than John?? This is the only thing that can help you right now and fix your flawed understanding

Go back to my previous post, you'll find it.

This shows that not only you didn't read my post very well but also lack knowledge to comprehend it.

I'm also, asking you WHO IS THE FLESH that will BORN FLESH who will live forever on earth?

I've been asking this more than 10times!

Barristter07:
A house is a property, Spirit nature or God's nature doesn't have it. Unless you mean Jesus materialized it like Angels do. It's not part of them.

The God's nature of Christ resides in the human body, the human body was glorified at resurrection!

I don't know why your empty skull can't still grab that

U are still somersaulting
He isn't the least person, so how could he be there?

Won't John be on earth according to you?

Isn't earth's also part of God's kingdom

Even evil people are children of God. You can restore yourself to factory settin now

And the evil people are the one John 1:12 was talking about bah? Olodo...

ALL BELIEVERS are BORN BY GOD and ADOPTED CHILDREN OF GOD.

Barristter07:
Everyone is a Children of God , not everyone is adopted as sons, those adopted will become SPIRIT persons.

Where is the verse that says "NOT EVERYONE IS ADOPTED AS SONS"?

" Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. " col 3:5

Putting something to death signifies a Battle. You are damn wrong.

Flesh and blood refer to human nature, which cannot exist in God's heavenly kingdom.

See the lying liar!

Now, there is God's HEAVENLY kingdom, the next thing the deluded JWs will say is that there is God's EARTHLY kingdom.

Then you're also wrong to have claimed "Born of Spirit is Spirit" means some people will be resurrected as Spirit being.

because Jesus contrasts "BORN OF SPIRIT is spirit" with "BORN OF FLESH is flesh".

Says a man who gave an explanation he eventually termed Error. Too bad

See the lying liar!

I didn't EXPLAIN that time but giving an analogy which I mistakenly inserted John. And I admitted to that, so stop lying.

I've given the explanation of that verse in my previous post, search for it!

Barristter07:
I like the Condition u are right now

Give me the correct interpretation of the least person is greater than John ??

Tell me the person who will BORN THE FLESH who will live forever on earth!

Kobojunkie:
So, Jesus Christ's response to His disciples demands that He teach them how to pray, a response that is the WORD OF GOD, the truth of the Father, as far as how He wants us to indeed pray to Him, is to be thrown out the window then?

Why? Because so-called Pastors/Preachers/GOs/Priests etc. prefer their versions and ideas on prayer, ideas which are no different from the prayers that the Pharisees/Priests/Sadducees/Teachers of the Law of Jesus Christ's days.

So why then Jesus didn't follow the very example of prayer He taught His own followers at the garden of Gethsemane?

hyuga:
Relax and read what he typed mahn. The answer to your insect question is there

The funny thing is, how you people will be claiming to have knowledge more than other.

If insect can successfully fly under your almighty gravity, while will ordinary Car radiator suck flies or nylon fly close to it?

Barristter07:
But all of them are greater than John the Baptist ? So what went wrong ??

What went wrong was that you lack understanding of that verse!

I've shown you:

1. Earth is part of God's kingdom

2. ALL BELIEVERS ARE CHILDREN OF GOD And BORN BY GODe.

3. Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.

So, If the least in God's kingdom is greater than John which you interpreted to be NOT BELONGING TO GOD'S KINGDOM then John won't be part of earth either.

Barristter07:
Go and learn the meaning of the word " Adoption "

But ALL BELIEVERS are adopted by God

"Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God" John 1:12

" For our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world powers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavens." Ephesians 6:12

Our battle is not against the sinful body . Wow

Yes not against sinful body, do you have problem with that?

Your knowledge is -0 . Don't forget you are still owing this thread how Everyone in God's kingdom is greater than John the Baptist.

As you have absolute zero sense!

Just as you're own this thread WHO IS THE FLESH who born the people on earth...

That was an " Error" explanation , remember ?

Go back to my post this time with your glasses!

Jozzy4:
If it doesn't , Jesus doesn't have God's nature since he has flesh and bones.

And I guess you lost your sight to have seen where I wrote, The Nature of God is house by the human nature!

Humans have flesh and blood, Genesis 5:2

Who denied this

Clearly Revelation 21:3,4 is for the earth.

That's why they have been asking you to explain if John the Baptist want enter God's kingdom. God's kingdom In 1 Cor 15:50 refer to heavenly abode.

But earth is also part of God's kingdom!

Shameless liar, so God's kingdom now has different meanings.

When it suits your lying it means heavenly abode but IN GENERAL GOD'S KINGDOM is means God's rule.

John the Baptist will be in God's kingdom as the rest of righteous people.

So Jesus didn't know they have human Father's before, The point is God is ready to adopt them as his sons, having the same divine nature as he has. Spirit.

But ALL BELIEVERS ARE ADOPTED GOD'S CHILDREN

So how come they have flesh instead of having the same divine nature as Spirit? When God doesn't have flesh?

If you want to use the word born of God wrongly or in the general context, u will get burnt ... Cos every human good or bad are called child of God.

As usual only the lying liar JWs have right to use Bible words the way they feel like but no one else has the right.

If it suits them BORN of God means to have divine nature like God but when you point to them that ALL BELIEVERS are BORN OF GOD then, it must have different meanings.

Deluded people!

Arrogant Maxmumu!

MaxInDHouse:
That's the answer but some will be in heaven and the rest will be on earth under God's Kingdom!

On what criteria will some be in heaven and some on earth?

Before, Satan disrupted the peace both in heaven and on earth so those born again Christians will go and live in heaven to rule the earth from there,

Was there any BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS in heaven before your father Devil distrupted heaven peace?

but all are under God's direction where there won't be any more disruption again.

So what is the essence of BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS in heaven when heaven wasn't created for human in the first place?

John will be part of those who will inherit the earth {Matthew 5:5} while the first set of resurrected ones will go with Jesus and become Spirit persons forever! Matthew 5:3

So you finally agreed that FLESH AND BLOOD will inherit God's kingdom.

Barristter07:
Will John the Baptist be in God's kingdom ??

ALL believers will be in God's kingdom!

Jozzy4:
There is nothing deluded in his post,

Says another deluded JWs!

Spirit which is God's nature doesn't have flesh and bones. Stop speaking from both sides of your mouth

Then who says God's nature has flesh and bones

Mr No sense

Jesus said From Flesh . They have human father's , so they remain humans.

So the people who will rule with Christ in heaven doesn't have human fathers...

No wonder you people will proof to us that you're senseless.

He even quoted Revelation 21:3 and 4 for you.

Then since Rev 21:3-4 says human will live under God's kingdom, then 1 Corinthians 15:50 doesn't mean Christ can't resurrect with body and go to heaven or human with flesh and bones can't be in heaven.

because that's one of the verse you deluded people always use.

This however doesn't mean they ain't children of God too in the normal sense, but they are not adopted as Spirit sons. A nature like the God of heaven.

Ode...

If what is born of spirit is spirit and ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN BY GOD who is a spirit, doesn't that make ALL believers to be spirit beings?

Let me show you how absurd your reasoning is:

He claimed, Christ resurrected as a spirit being which then makes those who'll rule with him to be spirit beings as well "since BORN OF SPIRIT is spirit"

And then I asked him, who is the SPIRIT that will born these people?

He said God!

Then I went further to ask, born of Flesh are flesh, then who is this FLESH. (I'm still waiting for his answer on that) but in helping him you said "Because they have human fathers"

Didn't those who you claim to become SPIRIT BEINGS also have human fathers?

Whereas, from the scripture, ALL BELIEVERS are BORN OF GOD. In fact, the very thing that makes us to be BORN of God is to BELIEVE that Jesus is THE CHRIST.

Barristter07:
Humans are flesh and blood, Mr error ...

Mr No sense...

So those who will rule with Christ in your delusion heaven aren't human before

Why would Revelation 21:3,4 say humans will live forever under God's kingdom.??

Error personified ... Emusan

Your understanding is flawed.

I just want to show you how senseless your claim of "flesh and blood can't be part of God's kingdom" means Jesus can't resurrect with flesh and bones.

So from scripture, flesh and blood can't inherit kingdom of God doesn't mean human won't be there but our frail and sinful body is what that verse meant.

I still demand you to explain how the least person is greater than John , if he would be in God's kingdom

I have done that, which means you are blind to see it then!

MaxInDHouse:
ARGUEMENTATIVE Emusan!

You can continue crying for all i care!

Go and ask PhDs they'll confirm my words, that
both Rebellion, willfully disobedience and challenge of authority all means the same thing, you're just blabbing like your brother!

ARROGANT Maxmumu!

Imagine when scripture where Rebellion was totally differentiated from disobedience were even quoted for you.

Why should I ask PhD holder when you can simply just post online dictionary meaning of Rebellion so that we can see?

I guess you're waiting for watchtower to dish out their own concorted dictionary before you can present it here.

Barristter07:
Don't you think your understanding is the error ??
The same reason you called John the Baptist the least person. You have problem

Will God kingdom be on Earth?

Jws: Yes!

Will Flesh and blood be part of the Kingdom of God?

Jws: No!

Will people who are flesh and blood live forever on earth where kingdom of God will be?

Jws: Yes

Confused JWs!

Barristter07:
God's nature does not have flesh and bones. Liarr

Says the deluded JWs!

Hahahahahaha Janosky o, Action Movie ,

Which Bible talk this one ? Trinitarians are scammers.

Your demonic translation!

One thing is certain those born of Spirit, will become SPIRIT beings. . that's all We needed here , the same nature Jesus have after his ressurection.

And those born of flesh will become flesh!

Then who born these ones who will become flesh?

While the otherz that will live forever on Earth are Called " Human beings " Rev 21:3,4 . Earth is there home.

Then who born these others or from what were they born from?

Also, 1 Corinthians 15:50 says "Flesh and blood will not be part of kingdom of God"

MaxInDHouse:
I never argued about the challenge of authority

Arrogant Maxmumu is still arguing instead for him to just respect himself.

So you never say "Rebellion means challenge of Authority" and you boldly lied you said so.

but what i'm saying is both means the same thing!

Both will never mean the same thing stop lying.

Even in the Bible which you even tried to twist, REBELLION is totally different from other sin.

If authority is challenged it simply means someone who knows the rule is willfully going against it, and they're both the same as rebellion!

Stop lying, accept simple truth. Stop acting as if you know it all.

REBELLION and WILLFUL DISOBEDIENCE are never mean the same thing.

NIV: To his sin he adds rebellion; scornfully he claps his hands among us and multiplies his words against God.” Job 34:37

NIV: “The Mighty One, God, the Lord! The Mighty One, God, the Lord! He knows! And let Israel know! If this has been in rebellion or disobedience to the Lord, do not spare us this day. Joshua 22:22


See how you're exposing your lying mouth!

AkinwaleJJ:
I need not waste my precious time exchanging words with another dullard. As for the highlighted Jesus who never got married nor have a single child of his own will be called the "Everlasting Father" of all those who through his counsel became Obedient to God! Isai 9:6

Smile....says the deluded person who didn't know rebellion isn't willful disobedience.

Did I say Jesus isn't an EVERLASTING FATHER or Jesus has a wife while on earth

MaxInDHouse:
I told you that rebellion simply means willful disobedience or challenge of authority, you're still arguing blindly. 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9
Another neutral commentator told you the truth even though the English is simple and easy yet you're still trying to claim right.

Sorry is your name Sir!

Arrogant Maxmumu!

The lying liar!

I challenge you to provide where you said "Rebellion means CHALLENGE OF AUTHORITY" in any of your post on this thread

After he schooled of about the meaning of rebellion, you're now changing mouth that you said rebellion MEANS CHALLENGE OF AUTHORITY when you never mentioned that in the first place.

AkinwaleJJ:
He's an attention seeker!

He's an attention seeker for teaching your brother simple English.

Can you provide DICTIONARY MEANING of the word "Rebellion", let's see if it's WILLFUL disobedience.

At first he couldn't grasp that all obedient descendants of Adam became adopted children of Jesus,

So ALL obedient descendants of Adam became ADOPTED CHILDREN OF JESUS, which means they were ALL BORN BY JESUS.

How come the people who will live forever on earth are ALL FLESH AND BLOOD?

then he didn't even know what rebellion means.

Give us the dictionary meaning of rebellion, let's see what it means

That's how he'll continue jumping from one thing to another just to prove he's around!

Hypocrite!

Aren't you people jumping around too.

achorladey:
New testament was written for 144,000 alone as it seems in the theology of JWs.

Galatians 3: 26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Should we ask them are they the SONS of Abraham? Do they belong to Christ? Or they disown themselves like the Pharisees did in John 8: 37 downwards even when Jesus told them they are sons of Abraham

That's what happened when a person is following wrong doctrines.

The Bible is very cleared that Believers are ALL born of God even Born of Christ

So I wonder who will born the people who will live forever on earth who are FLESH and BLOOD when both God and Christ whom ALL believers born from are spirits!

And another funny wrong understanding of the scripture is when they rush to 1 Corin 15:50 which says "Flesh and blood will not have part in the kingdom of God" to claim Christ can't resurrect bodily but forgotten that EARTH IS PART OF GOD'S KINGDOM where flesh and blood will still live forever.

Something must wrong somewhere!