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Jessicha:
Thank God , you didn't deny I am also a director, likewise the Father

Imagine, after your logic was rendered useless....


These are the questions again:

Is your son a DIRECTOR at that time?

Does anyone who address your Son as DIRECTOR committed a crime?

Will you be angry if you see people addressing your son DIRECTOR in your presence?

How will you treat your own accountant who knew vividly that you're a director but went ahead to open company account with the name of your son ONLY with a bank and told the bank THERE IS ONLY ONE DIRECTOR (with your son's name only)

In addition:

How many DIRECTORS does your company now have?

Jessicha:
Lol, that I designate someone to serve as a director in my company means am no longer a director ? Can't I still fire and dismiss ? Trinity has affected your thinking sir

I keep laughing at you people ignorance anytime I see you using this line of argument.

Is your son a DIRECTOR at that time?

Does anyone who address your Son as DIRECTOR committed a crime?

Will you be angry if you see people addressing your son DIRECTOR in your presence?

How will you treat your own accountant who knew vividly that you're a director but went ahead to open company account with the name of your son ONLY with a bank and told the bank THERE IS ONLY ONE DIRECTOR (with your son's name only)

Barristter07:
He is a servant just like other humans . hence the usage of the word as limit

Olodo....

Go and learn about scripture how it was applied to pre-human Jesus and when He became human.

John 3:16
Emphasis on " SEND " , From where was he sent ? And what is his identity ?

I've dealt with this, you can go back to that thread to refresh your memory.

The one who will fulfil that prophecy is revealed as one of Yahwes servant . the point here is the identity of the one fulfilling the prophecy

Olodo.....
Moses said God will GIVE his people ANOTHER PERSON like him...we can as well say, the person is a HUMAN BEING in heaven

SMH....

Barristter07:
Was the Lordship of his own will ? You are fighting a lost battle.

Cry of a deluded soul....

"One Lord is spelled out as Jesus Christ"-1 Cor 8:6

Is there no other biblical evidence that Jesus was called God?

That means the Father isn't Lord according to your deluded mind....you can't run away from this!

Barristter07:
Just put that in mind whenever El Gibboa at Isaiah 9:6 is discussed. Limit

Empty skull....
Show us how servant negates El Giboa

God send his what ? ... From where was he sent?

Through with this before...

If he wasn't a servant at then, why was he sent out for another's will?

Do you understand what is called PROPHECY?

Barristter07:
How many Lord does the father approved ? Act 2:36 .

There is clear biblical evidence that his Lordship was permitted and controlled by someone greater, Then show us who Gave Father his One God status ?

Apostle Paul says "There is ONE LORD"

That means the Father isn't Lord according to your deluded mind....Hypocrite!

So there's no another biblical evidence that says Jesus is God before you spew this thrash "One God, is spelled out as The Father - 1 Cor 8:6"

That's why Jehovah's witnesses and hypocrisy can never be separated.

Barristter07:
Act 2:36 would have saved you this embarrassment.
" Therefore let all Israel know with certainty that God has made this Jesus , whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ!” - BSB

So his Lordship was as permitted by the Father. He Controls it. So that invalidate your point


But show me where Jesus made or Give the Father his Godship ?

Olodo....

Apostle Paul says "There is ONE LORD"

That means the Father isn't Lord according to your deluded mind....

Deal with that...Hypocrite!

Barristter07:
Just mark the point that the Messiah is a servant.

Has anyone ever denied this before?

Also, If he isn't a son. He will be a servant.

He is non before coming to earth

- The words " my servant, chosen one " , is this servant in existence at the time of this saying ?

Oma se oooo

Do you understand prophecy at all

Barristter07:
One Lord as permitted by the Father.

Idiotic respond

Apostle Paul said "There is ONE LORD" which is Jesus Christ, then the Father isn't Lord according to your deluded mind...

Barristter07:
Hehehe so Messiah is a servant . ( Take note of that when next you discuss Isaiah 9:6) bookmarked.

Who is the Messiah ? Was he in existence ?

He wasn't son abi, but angels are sons ... At least he was a servant right

Was he called a servant before coming to earth?

You keep exposing your ignorance the more...

How was the Messiah being a servant addressed who He is before coming to earth?

Barristter07:
Erin e De n pami

Isaiah 42:1 who is the chosen Servant ?

The Messiah

Then provide where the servant or Son became FLESH....from the scripture.

It's evident that you people can't distinguish between those verses about pre-human Jesus and when he came to join human.

Barristter07:
Where is " one God " written at John 1:1 ?

One God, is spelled out as The Father - 1 Cor 8:6

Also One Lord is spelled out as Jesus Christ, that means the Father isn't Lord too

Barristter07:
I seriously do not understand where you are going with the bold, Going by your heresy that Christ isn't son of God before coming to earth, Would you then accept Christ was a Servant of God before coming to Earth?

The @underlined shows how brainwashed are you.

Christ was the "ETERNAL WORD OF GOD & That ETERNAL LIFE" before He came to earth as Son!

I've asked you to provide where it is said in the scripture that THE SON became FLESH....you haven't till now!

Barristter07:
When you read Rev 1:4,5 , You would actually discover you are the exact Liar.

I've read it, do you?

V7 still says "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."

Again, who is coming according to John throughout the book of Revelation?

Barristter07:
Emphasis on the highlighted, Now go back to Verse 4 and 5, That person is differentiated from Jesus the Faithful witness

Liars everywhere....

Who is coming according to John throughout Revelation

Janosky:
EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT if you bake your bread or cake with broken or dented pan, you must see the dents or defects on your bread or cake.
The final results MUST show the defects..
That is the BEST WAY to explain the FRAUD in the KJV Textus Receptus (TR) manuscript that Johnw lying Pharisee is hiding from everyone reading this thread.
Pls, go ahead and check ALL the different bible translations of Revelation 1:11 on the link below:
SOURCE: https://biblehub.com/
revelation/1-11.htm


** You will discover that the KJV and some few Bibles have the same rendition. They are from the same 16th century TR manuscript.

**The authentic renditions of Revelation 1:11 is NOT from the TR manuscript.
Shalom.

See deluded JWs with false doctrine

It's a fraud yet your so self acclaimed perfect and only true Christian organization still have those FRAUDULENT VERSEs in their NWT. Who is deceiving who?

It's evident you don't know how to counter Rev 1:8; 11

Funny enough almost every verses that speak about the deity of Jesus Christ have been declared as FRAUD/TWISTED by you people.

Yet you think nothing is wrong with you people about Christ...

Janosky:
Isaiah9:6, Your "God" is a son "given" by whom?
Lol...

Keep ranting after that go, learn and acquire understanding of scripture.

solite3:
Emussan good job dont be deterred God bless you

My brother I know them and their Antichrist standard...

They don't have any other mission than denying Christ deity.

Janosky:
Janosky dubious subtraction!
Eleyi gidigaan Twister !!!
1Cor15:27, destroys the lie of co-equal triune God.
"it is evident that this does not include the One ( his Father and God) who subject all things to him (Jesus) "
V28 the Son will hand over to his God and Father,
"then the son will also subject himself to the One (his God) who subjected all things to him"
The God and Father of Jesus was NEVER co-equal with his son, Jesus in the heavenly realm where the event of 1Cor15:27-28 took place.

After you finished ranting, go and learn when the scripture is talking about the eternal Word of God before becoming man and when it's talking about Him after becoming man.

Greatomotoy:
I wish I can type long!!! I will try to

Jehovah/Yahweh is the Father ( God the father)
Jesus Christ is the Son (God the Son)
Holy Spirit is God the Spirit
They are different personality in the God Head. As humans' are tripartite so is the God Head.

If you understand it this way, then no need for the below question...

but Clarity sake...I'll address the question in short period.

I get puzzled when some Christians say God is the 'same person' as Jesus Christ, when tons of scriptural verses had made it clear.

Any Christian who says "The Father" (Note: I used Father here instead of God as you did) is the same PERSON as Jesus Christ vis-a-vis doesn't understand scripture well.

For Christians saying they are the same, I ask..... when we get to heaven are we going to see one Entity or 'Three Entity ( Father, Son and Spirit)?

In the Old Testament, nobody talks about Son of God or the person of Holy Spirit as we do today simply because the New Testament writers shield more light about the co-existing and co-eternal of the Three which would have resulted to Polytheistic view if Trinity doctrine wasn't adopted.

Now, to your question:
But because of the redemption role Christ is still playing until fulfillment of the whole promises of God.

The Bible recorded some kind of revelation about the presence of the Father in heaven but the only person the Bible says we'll see is Jesus Christ till every process is complete and "God MAY BE ALL IN ALL" 1 Corinthian 15:28

Adam Clarke puts it this way "...then the son Son, as being man and Messiah, shall cease to exercise any distinct dominion and GOD BE ALL IN ALL: there remaining no longer any distinction in the PERSONS of the glorious TRINITY...."

This is one of the verses many people who argue against Trinity don't understand.

My humble submission!

Barristter07:
Still the same word with same meaning , but Exclude Jehovah because is the Creator. all others including the Messiah are creations , hence their use of the term has limit just as the different between God and god. Elohim may be applied to others, but it has limits since they are creations

@color part says alot about your hypocrisy and beclouded mind....

The content of Isaiah 9:6 alone cannot make a reasonable human to conclude the person El Giboa was applied to should be in the same category with human.

Almighty was never applied to Jesus Christ

It was....
Now using style to boycott my questions

Is Jesus a lesser God and false God?

How many Mighty God do you have?

Barristter07:
The congregation in Philadelphia, They are not humans ?

"And to the Angel of the Church in Philadelphia"

Anyway, there are many debates on this about the identity of "THE ANGEL" human aren't Angel....but the fact still remains that, it's not a command to worship them but Christ Himself said, He will make them to do it.....and this "THEM" are the synagogue of Satan...

Which proof you're wrong.

John 17:24 they will be where I am, to BEHOLD the GLORY you have Given me. which Glory will they behold with him in heaven?

After I have tutored you, you can still be this clueless...

V22 Jesus said "The glory God had GIVEN him, He had given THEM (He's disciples)....grow in wisdom and stop perishing in the ignorance of watchtower.

Read the underlined and ask yourself: Am I equal with someone I myself Give Honor ??

It's evident that you cant give a straight answer to my question because you know, it will expose your dishonesty and show how you never obey Christ instruction despite the fact that you claim to love him.

That Jehovah witnesses might honour the Son, EVEN AS they honor Jehovah...Jehovah witnesses that honour not the Son honour NOT the Father that sent him.

Olodo JatiJati Its about FIRST RESSURECTION not General one that will include unrighteous ones.

Of course all the dead will receive the gift of Immortality Like God . 1 Cor 15:53 ?

All the dead will bear the image of the heavenly One, include unrighteous ones ? 1 Corinthians 15:49

General i mean, no separation!

Are Abel , Joshua, Noah. born again ? Will he enter the Kingdom of God ?

What is born of spirit is Spirit. So the verse address abode of spirits heaven, has nothing to do with Prophecies of the New earth . 2 Pet 3:13, Psalm 37:29

If they don't born again THEY CAN'T SEE AND ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

Your understanding about that verse is too shallowed, do much research on it to under what it says and deliver yourself from the shackles of watchtower.

Yes, Just Like faithful men of old

This is where I'm going!

You want to enter and see the Kingdom of God when you're not a BORN AGAIN.

See dubious act, you admitted that only Born Again are going to heaven and according to Jesus in John 3 only BORN AGAIN can see and enter heaven.

Yet you claim, you want to see it and even enter!

Keep roping yourself. That proves the point. NOT by Mans will/desire, but from God.

Emphasis on " Gods children " . contrasted with Giving birth to children by Mans will

How is a child born by the will of the flesh ? Through physical human birth ?

FLESH AND BLOOD can't enter the kingdom of God....yet your empty brain is still claiming BORN of FLESH....when the scripture openly said, any one who becomes SON OF GOD are not BORN BY THE WILL OF FLESH...truly Jehovah witnesses perversion of the scripture has knows no bound.

Born by the WILL of the Flesh means those who failed to be transformed by the Holy Spirit.

That's why Apostle Paul says, "walk not after the FLESH, but after the SPIRIT"

"For they that are after the FLESH do mind the things of the FLESH; but they that are after the spirit the things of the Spirit"

"So then they that are in the FLESH cannot please God"

Seriously here is the verse that shattered all your ignorances "They which are the CHILDREN OF FLESH, these are not the CHILDREN OF GOD..."

The whole message of Christ in John 3 that your organization has mislead you with was summarized by Paul like this "For he that soweth to the Flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption, but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap everlasting life"


Yet you still want to be born by the flesh.

Read the highlighted, You DO NOT KNOW where it comes from, You don't know the source , You feel it. Likewise Only God knows the process that makes a person born again, not by the persons determination or knowledge.

Will you shut the Bleep up....

Where does the verse say, it's God who chooses those who are born again?

also, these the my questions you purposely ignored concerning your organization lies. if you do that again, that's end to my post.

Are you baptized by water?

Are you begotten by God's spirit?

Are all Jehovah witnesses baptized by water and begotten by God's spirit?

It's clear that this criteria fits in with whosoever become son of God according to John 1:12

Idiot....so why are you praying for kingdom of God to come if it's just an heavenly access

it's about the FIRST RESSURECTION

The question again: If Jesus was raised in a spiritual body, is he then physical ?

Spiritual is defined as that which is opposed to physical. Answer this and your excuse of having a God because he was physical can gently enter the dustbin

Go and read 1 Corinthian 15 do research about it and after you've fully understand it, then come back here to argue.

Barristter07:
Facts :
1. EL - Gibboa was applied to humans.

2. The exact same El Giboa was applied to The Messiah, an human too

Was also applied to God, then are you expecting them to have the same meaning?

Your ignorance won't allow you to reason....

3. Same Hebrew word . That point alone render you clueless

4. To distinguish the Messiahs ( anointed one of God NOT GOD himself] from other EL GIbboas, a different translation was adopted for both IN OTHER LANGUAGES

If it's to distinguish between the Messiah and human, why do you want it to be applied the same way to human and the said Messiah?

Wasn't the same word used for Jehovah?

When it is used for Jehovah and human, were you expecting it to be translated the same way or carry the same meaning?

This exposes your ignorance and dishonesty....

If Jesus as A Messiah actually meant been Almighty, A Term never applied to any human. El Shaiddai would have been used .

The same Almighty was applied to Jesus in revelation...

Besides, we're talking about Mighty God here, how many Mighty God do you have?

Is Jesus a lesser God or a false God?

Righteousness89:
Africa is Burning also much more the Amazon



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyK2hpzNbZ4

To even think that nobody gave this attention

Barristter07:
You can as well tell us they are not humans

So are you then afraid to name the person who was referring to in that verse?

Let people see who is a liar here....

He said this Glory given him was because The Father loved him before the creation of the world ? Liar .

liar he didn't say the glory was given to Him because of the love but the Father to grant His desire/request because of the love the Father has for Him before the creation of the world.

Can you see how shallow your understanding is about scripture?

Again, this verse didn't negate verse 5

Open your senses, If You honor my dad You are not equal with him, Jesus honor his Father.

Cry of a deluded person....

If I asked you to honor me EVEN AS you honor your daddy, isn't that an indication that I'm placing myself on equal level with your dad? You think you can use your dubious way to buy away this one.

Have you been honoring Jesus Christ as He commanded you EVEN AS you honor Jehovah?

Only He that is born from spirit is Spirit
The above applies to Heavenly ressurection , Paul said Like the Heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly.

Idiot see how you change the word BORN to RESURRECTION....

The content of 1 Corinthian 15 is a general address of Resurrection, it's your lying and demonic organization who separated it. Apostle Paul was addressing misconception of people about the DEAD IN GENERAL.

Born again is called Spiritual BIRTH, non born agains won't experience it.

What is born of Flesh is Flesh, They retained their Physical birth status as human.

But the BORN AGAIN will SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD and ENTER IT.

Are you going to see the Kingdom of God or enter it?

Besides, the flesh talks about here simply means the sinful nature not human body....

John 1:12-13 says "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God...which were not BORN, not of BLOOD, nor of the will of the FLESH..."

Now look at how your demonic organization defined born Again:

Born Again
Definition: Being born again involves being baptized in water (“born from water”) and begotten by God’s spirit (“born from . . . spirit”), thus becoming a son of God with the prospect of sharing in the Kingdom of God.

Are you baptized by water?

Are you begotten by God's spirit?

Are all Jehovah witnesses baptized by water and begotten by God's spirit?

It's clear that this criteria fits in with whosoever become son of God according to John 1:12

It's evident that Jehovah witnesses are not God's son but just want to inherit earth in crook way.

Kingdom of God here indicates heavenly access ( compare Matt 11:11) . evidenced by " What is born from spirit is Spirit ! spirit beings reside in heaven

John 3:8 says GOD chooses who becomes born again. Not by personal interest

Idiot....so why are you praying for kingdom of God to come if it's just an heavenly access

This is John 3:8 "The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearesth the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it forth, so it EVERYONE that is born of the spirit"

where does this verse say "God chooses who become BORN AGAIN?

See the extent watchtower has damaged your brain

Is spiritual physical ?

If Jesus was raised in a spiritual body, Can he be physical ?

Go back an read 1 Corinthian 15 to understand what Apostle Paul was saying concerning the RESURRECTION, it's evident you don't know and still continue to hold on to watchtower wrong teaching.

Barristter07:
The fact that it doesn't render the Same word Mighty God for humans means the word doesn't indicate been God.

Isn't this exposed your previous lie that human are also a MIGHTY GOD?

Everyone knows that a word can have different meanings but you people first lie that it means human are MIGHTY GOD but when proof was demanded, the narration changed.

The bold explains it, Christian translators render it that way because its accepted to be a Messianic verse, And the annointed one is a representative from God

Is it only Christian that believe in messianic passages in the scripture?

Give us just one rabbinic rendition that ever used El Giboa for human as a MIGHTY GOD.

Your first claim was that human are MIGHTY GOD also, so what is the essence of Isaiah calling the child to be born again MIGHTY GOD if Human are already known to be a Mighty God? That's the point you're still dodging.

Barristter07:
El shaddai ( Almighty ) was never applied to any human, EL Gibboa applied to Messiah and other humans indicate being a powerful one. NOT an equal God.

Show us how your own translation rendered it whether it says man a MIGHTY GOD, why are you afraid of bringing it down here?

Again, what is the essence of Isaiah calling The born Messiah MIGHTY GOD if Human are already known to
be a MIGHTY GOD?

You're still dodging my questions.

Barristter07:
Since humans are worshipped , And worship belong to God in the trinitarian argument, Are these humans that accepted worship Gods ?



Very silly human, now you shifted to Command. Revelation 3:9, (KJV)
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Will Jesus command worship for humans here or not ?

Who is the person Jesus is referring to in that Revelation 3:9

Glory of his mission ?? , Yeebariba orisirisi ... .

John 17:24.


"Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world. "

@undelined , the Glory is the same one at John 17:5 given before the Creation of the world . Fake Barristter07, Lie would kill you and send you to hell

further Emphasis on " Be with me WHERE I AM, to see my Glory " . Is this nor reffering to his heavenly Glory he prayed to have back ?

finally he said it was " GIVEN me ".

Like I said, the Glory Jesus spoke about in Vs 5 is different from the one in Vs 24..

Jesus had glory with the Father which was not given...

in that case,
Not when the Son also honors his Father ,( John 8:49) . You probably didn't think about that did you, ?

Idiot....
Did me telling you to honor me the way you honor your daddy not placing me on the same level with your dad?
That's the question..

Have you been honoring Jesus Christ EVEN AS you honor Jehovah?

ressurection to a " Spiritual body " 1 Cor 15:44

define spiritual, is it Physical ? ? ?

Prove to the world how Ignorant you are.

since Jesus raised a spirit, have a Spiritual body, Don't ever again claim he is human in heaven. He has A GOD even in his Spirit form. Agree ??

I don't know your level of heresy has gone to another level....
Do you even understand the whole content of that 1 Corinthian 15 at all

So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it ris raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

The resurrection of the dead here, is it for particular people or everyone in Christ?

John 3:6

" Who has been born of flesh is flesh [human being ] , and what has been born from the spirit is Spirit [spirit being ] "

Those to be resurrected on earth have no hope of going to heaven and becoming Spirit beings. they will be FLESH [humans].

Spirit life is for born agains..
, they ain't born agains.

Again Christ was raised in a spiritual body, is a spiritual body physical ? 1 Corinthians 15:44

See another ridiculous one from the brainwashed JWs....

So John 3:6 is for your deluded people who will live in paradise earth

So are the people who will live forever in your paradise earth going to be BORN BY FLESH or resurrected?

If spirit is for born again....

John 3:3 says "Except a man be BORN AGAIN, he CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD"

John 3:5 says "...Except a man be BORN of water and of the SPIRIT, he CANNOT enter into the Kingdom of God"

The questions are:

1. Are you going to see the Kingdom of God or not?
2. Will you enter the kingdom of God or not?

So are you a born again person?

Did Jesus not ressurect WITH WOUNDS AND SCARS in the human ressurection theory ?

if those to be ressurected would be fashioned after his pattern , Would they not retain their wounds, scars, Hunch backs, Burns , ? ? ?

Go back to that 1 Corinthian 15 make sure you read it slowly this time....so that you will grab the description of resurrection Apostle Paul talked about.

Firstly, I didn't know where to start replying you because of too much heresies in your post.

Secondly, you use the tactics of spamming my mention by bringing up disjointed post which make it impossible to reply unless I begin to copy and paste.

Barristter07:
Good you didn't dispute humans been termed the exact same El Gibboa. or else you would have been disgraced

you should be ashamed of yourself @undelined . If it was applied to humans, are these humans NOT MIGHTY GODS TOO ?

Like I said, you running to Hebrew won't save you...

Show us how your own translation rendered that verse let's see if it directly called man MIGHTY GOD.....if your term of El Giboa is true....

What is the essence of Christ being called MIGHTY GOD if Human on earth are already known to be MIGHTY GOD...

Janosky:
@1)Janosky, you suppose done pass this level but Watchtower exchanged your brain with Animal shit.
Have you studied the Hebrew lexicon of Psalms 82:1,6 (KJV)? You NEVER did !!!!
What's Hebrew meaning of El (God)?
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/410.htm

Anytime your lies are being exposed, it's then you'll people use to remember Hebrew and Greek

Show us from your own translation whether humans were directly refer to as MIGHTY GOD the way it was referred to Jehovah and Jesus Christ.

**1 Cor8:6" there is actually to us ONE GOD, the Father".
John17:3"that they know thee,the one true God"
in the words of Jesus and Paul, who is "the one true God"?

1Cor8:5,6, Is Jesus "the one true God?

You're still barking and growling.....

Is Jesus a lesser God or false God?

That's the question....no hide and seek for you.

It's a fuss to Emusan and other Trinity worshippers who twist Isaiah 9:6 to make false claims

Brainwashed JWs, I asked "What is so unique about Christ being Mighty God, if human are already a Mighty God?"

Rev3:14 where was Jesus Christ when he called himself "first born of creation" ?
Jesus says "my Father", "my God" (John20:17,
John14:28, on earth, & Rev3:2,5,12, in heaven . Jesus means the same thing. True or False?

He was in heaven....

Why did Jesus beg his Father to give him the glory he had before?

No where! You're lying....show us the verse....

@5) "The Messenger is not greater than his Owner who sent him",says Jesus Christ.
The honour for Jesus can not surpass his Father's.

See brainwashed....

Who tell you that Jesus honor should surpass His Father

Who are you to twist the word of Christ

Jesus said you should honor Him EVEN AS you honor Jehovah....did He ask you to honor Him above how you honor Jehovah

Have you been obeying Jesus word by honoring Him EVEN AS you honor Jehovah

This is one of the Jesus statement that will continue to nail all you enemies of Christ.

@6). **1 Timothy 2:5,6
" For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all....."

Dubious man, twisting the holy Bible, where did the man Jesus give himself as a ransom for all?
Did 1 Timothy 2:5,6 say Jesus Christ is a man in heaven?
If you're honest, your wayo is exposed..... Lols.

Is Jesus mediating now or not, that's the question?

When you're tired of crying...you'll be ok

@7
1 Cor15:20,23,42-50 is still incontrovertible.
Paul says their resurrection to heavenly life is patterned after Christ, "the first fruit of those who fell asleep in death." (vs 20,23. vs42-50).
They were chosen as co-rulers with Christ in heaven " to serve God his Father " in his heavenly kingdom. Rev1:5,6.

See brainwash.....

So you mean only 144,000 will resurrect....

What of those who will leave forever on earth, are they not going to be resurrected?

Is their resurrection going to be different from that of Christ?

The same 1 Corinthian 15 was about resurrection in general only a brainwashed JWs will limit it to some particular set of people.

Paul said, "we shall not all SLEEP but we shall all be changed" isn't this evident that some people will not die and still possess this SPIRITUAL BODY?

Barristter07:
Are humans not refferred to as El Giboa?

Anytime your lies are being exposed the next line is to run to Hebrew or Greek!

Show us how your translation render El Giboa as well as other translations in both verses.

Whether humans are directly refer to as MIGHTY GOD or not.

Barristter07:
When the KJV applied " Worship " to humans, Hope you agreed with that as well?

Yes I agreed

Then show us where it's a command to do so for human.

Or the content of the message.

EL - Gibboa translated Mighty God at Isaiah 9:6 was applied to Humans , agree?

it's just so funny how you people dubiously boycotted the main point of a post then attack strawman.

Show us how your own translation render it as well as others....

It's now you begin to refer back to Hebrew.....Robit!

"
to behold my Glory THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN ME " John 17:24

Do u admit you lied ? #coded C45

Brainwashed JWs.....
Like I always say, your ignorance of the scripture not to decipher when the scripture is talking about Jesus Christ before He became human and after He became human has led you to this.

In John 17:5 Jesus addressing the Father as "TO GLORIFY HIM ALONG WITH HIMSELF WITH the Glory He had with HIM BEFORE the world began"

This glory was before the creation, which it was never given but HAD TOGETHER WITH THE FATHER.

While John 17:24 was about the glory of His mission which the disciples were to behold.

And How does this make Jesus equal to HIS GOD or Make him Almighty?

Claiming equal honor with Jehovah isn't a strong evident to you nor proof anything just because watchtower has brainwashed you not to reason with it.

So if I tell you, you should start HONOR me EVEN AS you honor your Daddy, it means I didn't place myself on equal level with your dad, bah

Besides, have you been Honoring Jesus Christ just as you Honor Jehovah?

You lied, Jesus resurrected with a spiritual body, Is a spiritual body physical ?

Since the acclaimed Jesus body has wounds and scars and ressurection is to be Fashioned after , Do you agree it means people will be resurrected with their scars, hunch backs and other disabilities ?

Just shouting lie, like a rabies dog.

Are believer in Christ going to experience the same resurrection Jesus Christ experienced or not?

So which body is those who will resurrect on earth according to your organization with come with, spiritual or physical?

Ignorance at its peak, so you don't know that resurrection is a miracle which means people won't resurrect with sickness and disease.