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And all these are because of 2015 right?

Any Nigerian who will collect money from any politician/party and come to public forum to fight for them will be consumed in the wrath of God soon.

MzNelly:
That's cool.

Did you see my PM?

haffaze777:
stop being mapa guy just quote where I said ur book predict d coming of anybody or keep shut

Firstly, you can now see how you agree with Femi!

Lastly, are you denying the prophecy of Muhammad in the Bible?

I use to scare of them before but since I meet MzNelly my German mate I'm not scared of them any more.

DrJoe1:
a typical nigerian is not interested in this kind of story, he/she is more interested in what his/her pastor says on sunday service. in fact, if you try to educate him/her on this topic then you are a demon ,
they don't even know the names of their african grand parents, all they know is isaac, jacob , nebuchadnezzar, etc

The problem isn't about people who always listing to their pastors RATHER some people like you who always think he is more intelligent that people who believe in God BUT couldn't say to himself; this is absolutely a great work from an intelligent mind NOT JUST an accidental work!

Because by the time we put many things into consideration; the TIME they spent, the KNOWLEDGE they share among themselves, how they CAREFULLY chose some elements and purposely REJECTED others, how they chose LABORATORY (where some apparatus were used) instead of OPEN ATMOSPHERE without apparatus to regulate atmospheric conditions, numbers of trials and errors e.t.c then we can conclude that the FIRST life on earth can't just evolve by accident.

haffaze777:
u must be mapa,where did I said dat I agree wit him?use ur brain bros stop relying on dis unscientific book

You didn't agree with him but you can search for his article and come to Nairaland to create thread.
Why can't you use the articles of those who support Trinity?

Everyone can see that you're the one who couldn't use his God's giving brain.

The same unscientific book still prophecy the coming of Muhammad I guess, deluded fellow!

Elantracey:
Now am prompted to ask [size=14pt]peradventure Jesus came down from heaven[/size] today and says there's no heaven or hell that this life is all there is, what will be your reaction and will you still remain a Christian?

So if Jesus Himself came down from heaven, why will He say there's nothing like the PLACE THAT HE CAME FROM?
Does it even make sense?

It's like I told you that I came from Lagos but there's no Lagos...

frosbel:
Then do not LIE and twist scripture, speak the TRUTH always.

To you I'm lying and twisting the scripture whereas it's only you who speak the TRUTH.

frosbel:
This is the most dishonest fabrication of this scripture and makes a mockery of our integrity as Christians.

God stands for TRUTH, stop lying for him !!!!

Brother frosbel we're not on the same path OK!

Remember I once told you "very soon you will say there's no God"

I just pray it won't too late before you realize

malvisguy212:
I loved this reply. Hope you are doing alright bro.

Yeah Brother! And you?

If this is what you can do to cover up your false teaching I'm seriously shaking my head for you.

BERNIMOORE:
dont jam-pack topics muddle up issues okay! the topic remains Jehovahs Witnesses Alive In 1914 Will Witness The End Of The World

Alright

now lets see even Gods chosen people, and see changes in timing of predictions as well as peoples expectations

(1)*, Moses

Moses delivaered a message of assurance to the elders of isreal assuring them of leaving egypt for a green(er)land/pasture ; promised land, and based on that assurance that they(the elders) will inherit and phisically witness the promise land


Exodus 3:16,17
16 “Go, assemble the elders of Israel and say to them, ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob—appeared to me and said: I have watched over you and have seen what has been done to you in Egypt. 17 And I have promised to bring you up out of your misery in Egypt into the land of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—a land flowing with milk and honey.


if we had internet then the isreal elders can assure you that most of them will enter the promise land based on moses pronoucements in exodus above

but what happened

They walked 40 years in the wilderness until all the elderly men (who received the firsthand promise) and all "men of war" who came out of Egypt had died. A total of 603,550 males excluding women and children came out of egypt, only (2 boys joshua and caleb) from the (1st) first generation who left egypt who were very young did enter the promise land, but moses himself and Aaron who delivered the message and who also nurse the feeling that the will enter the promise land DID NOT enter,

Deuteronomy 4:21
The LORD was angry with me because of you, and he solemnly swore that I would not cross the Jordan and enter the good land the LORD your God is giving you as your inheritance.

note; changed expectations

......Moses was inclusive of the 'first isrealite census which God ordered' (603,550 males excluding women and children) so as to know the exact amount of those who will leave for the promise land,(but that promised generation all (but only 2 persons remaining) perished

.......It was Another generation that was raised in the wilderness, who actually entered the promise land.



1, if we had internet then, are you not going to be monitoring their deaths, changes and variances and mock their gullible hope, even labeling the source of those prophets as unreliable?

2, will you still trust message from prophets who claim to have a promise to the isrealites, or doubt those prophets based on the inconsistencies in the previous messages from other prophets to isrealites?

Firstly, God didn't change His promise it is you who decided to twist God's word to suit false teaching.
The promise of God is "Come now therefore, and I will send thee unto Pharaoh, that thou mayest bring forth my people the children of Israel out of Egypt." Exo 3:10 KJV

This promise of God wasn't directed to the elders as you claimed but THE CHILDREN of Israel
NOTE: I'm not saying the elders are not Israelite but the message is for the WHOLE children of Israel.

Even though you might not aware of this but you've already made it clear in your post that THE ELDERS ALREADY KNEW THAT ALL OF THEM WON'T ENTER, here is your statement "...the Israel elders can assure you that [size=14pt]most of them will enter the promise land..."[/size]

The desire of God is to take them to the promise land but they rebel against God, SHORTLY AFTER the Egyptians were drown Moses KNEW EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT'S why Moses gave them the status to follow in other for them to reach the promise land.

"And he cried unto the LORD; and the LORD shewed him a tree, which when he had cast into the waters, the waters were made sweet: [size=14pt][b]there he(Moses) made for them a statute and an ordinance, and there he proved them,[/size] 26 And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee." Exo 15:25-26 KJV

NOT THAT GOD CHANGED HIS PROMISE because had it been that God actually changed His promise NONE of the Israelite INCLUDING their next generation will enter the Land BUT God remains a just God who can't compromise His standard WHICH is ALL SINNERS MUST NOT GO UNPUNISH.

Joshua 5:4 NKJV
4 All the people who came out of Egypt who were males, all the men of war, had died in the wilderness on the way, after they had come out of Egypt.

I hope you know the reason why they died?

God is a covenant keeping God, so why would God can be called a covenant keeper and when He keeps changing in His promise?

Based on the above explanations NOW COMPARE THAT MESSAGE of Moses to Watchtower teaching "...The "great crowd," [size=14pt]including many of the earliest members thereof,[/size] will survive into the "new earth." Survival into a New Earth (1984) p.184-185

"Prophetic information in the Bible about our day details the following: ...The survival of at least some of the generation that saw the beginning of "the conclusion of the system of things." True Peace And Security (1986) p.70

[size=14pt]"Some who saw the events of 1914 will also see the complete destruction of the present wicked world."[/size] Reasoning from the Scriptures (1989) p.200

If this people are no more alive today, is it that they rebel against God?

why would God's promise vary with time?(400 yrs varied to 450yrs)

(2)* Genesis 15:13 Then the LORD said to Abram, "Know of a surety that your descendants will be sojourners in a land that is not theirs, and will be slaves there, and they will be oppressed for four hundred years


Exodus 12:40,41 The time that the people of Israel dwelt in Egypt was four hundred and thirty years. And at the end of four hundred and thirty years, on that very day, all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt.

lets start with this 1,2* above

in fact this particular one shows how you lack scriptural knowledge because it's so glaring that you lack it for using these two scriptures which their message were so straight forward.

Genesis 15:13 says "...they will be oppressed for four hundred years" which you Bolden yourself WHEREAS Exodus 12:40-41 only SUM UP ALL THE YEARS THEY DWELT and BE OPPRESSED in the Land of Egypt which you Bolden too "The time that the people of Israel dwelt in Egypt was four hundred and thirty years..."

The statement of Genesis is so cleared because people can see that the verse is only talking about THE YEARS THEY WILL ONLY BE OPPRESSED not all the years of their dwelling and oppression.

Grow in wisdom man.

haffaze777:
pls quote from error free scripture if u have one not from dis error full book called Bible

If not because your brain is working upside down you would've asked yourself, which book did Femi Aribasala himself use?

You can agree with Femi when he used the same book that full of error but disagree with my point from the same book

BERNIMOORE:
History doesnt favour Gods prophets like Moses too, does that makes him a false prophet? hope will you add that to your book!

Tell me how Moses change in his teaching about God

I wonder how JWs reason because how can the FOUNDER teach WORSHIPPING of Jesus and his followers called such teaching an idolatry?

My main concern is this, Jehovah hates idolatry, THEN why will Jehovah allow Russell to die as idolatry when it is Holyspirit Himself that is directing Russell?

true2god:
Which language is this?

German.

where is MzNelly

MzNelly:
die Reichen wohnen in Abuja

Warum nicht?

Es freut mich

MzNelly:
Lagos. Sie?

Ich wohne in Abuja

MzNelly:
Sehr Gut. Danke

Bitte schon!

Wo wohnen sie?

MzNelly:
Okay, Sir.
Believe in whatever rocks your boat, I'll do the same.
It is, afterall, a free world.

It is a free world BUT THE TRUTH IS RIGHT THERE IN THE SCRIPTURE.

You mean Russell didn't know what he believed and the modern day JWs know more than him?

MzNelly:
Ja ich bin.

Guten Abend und wie geht's?

MzNelly:
The light became brighter and brighter, Sir.
We've made mistakes, just like any organisation.
Our mistakes don't make us 'evil.'
This isn't particularly hard to understand, I believe.

The light is getting brighter indeed WHEN THE SOLE CALLED THE FOUNDER DIED AS A POLYTHEISTIC (according to JWs) and God hates IDOLATRY, I can see the level of your blindfolded.

MzNelly:
German, Sir.

Sprechen sie German?

MzNelly:
Okay, itaff do.

Are you speaking Greek?

MzNelly:
Ha ha
All you're good at is picking on Witnesses
Yes, I do know people who gave first-hand info about what it was like in 1914; but to hand out their names to you is ridiculousity of the highest order.

I can't help but SMH because you're so blindfolded to see this truth.

Another example is this;
Pastor Russell himself believes and teaches the worshipping of Jesus but today worshipping of Jesus became idolatry to JWs which means the sole founder 'Russell' died as an idolatry.

Yet people still believe in such organization.

MzNelly:
Why? Do you have an award for them for longetivity?

Yes! Award of the best longevity-liar to WATCHTOWER when they didn't know that 1914 anointed one still alive before they reverted their teaching to overlapping generation.

MzNelly:
Yes Sir. Some of them.

Please give us their names...

MzNelly:
I still don't get you, mister.
If they are alive to witness the destruction of the world, so?

So, are they still alive now?

MzNelly:
I really do not understand what he's on about.

Are you one of them?

If yes he said WATCHTOWER teach that some elders who witnessed the event of 1914 WILL BE ALIVE TO SEE THE COMPLETE DESTRUCTION OF THE PRESENT WICKED WORLD.

What do you have to say?

If no, I'm sorry this thread isn't for you just grab your seat belt and begin to WATCH(the)TOWER

vooks:
I agree you mention doctrine and they dissociate. But some arguments can be knocked down. For instance, how could Jesus die if he was God? Are angels born? Who was the mother of Gabriel?

I wonder why a Bible student like JWs always ask this dumb question.

Did Jesus live in the nature of God on earth or in the nature man?

Let me see how your intellectual will pay way (I didn't direct it to you but to show you how someone who claimed to be rooted in the word of God can be asking such question)

paulGrundy:

BERNIMORE would make a good editor for the book

I'm telling you.

If you want JWs attention just ask them, do you know Pastor Russell die as polytheistic? Then watch how they will pay attention.

davien:
It remains a testable hypothesis.....that's It.

And since 1950's nothing can come out of this.

I will ask you this again why will Miller-Urey CAREFULLY chose those substances and a better ENVIRONMENT for their experiment when nobody was there at early earth to do so?
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davien:
If you had paid more attention to my posts and did not attack it blindly you'd notice that [size=14pt]I am not for nor against abiogenesis,[/size] as the process is but a testable hypothesis...

You thought I attacked your post blindly but I did not.
You're not for nor against, so which side are you?