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aottravels:
i will mail u how i routes it ok

That'll be Ok by me, thanks

aottravels:
@ Emusan, i thought have u given u price even mail u, if u want the ticket that u should get back to me via my contact at my signature....the price is six hundred plus

You told me that I have to pass through US at maimi and said though you will still do more research about it.

olawalehenry:
Hi Fellow Nairalander,
I was just ruminating on the creation of God, and and now stumbled on man and the Dominion, right and other things which God gave Adam........Now we all knew that he gave his dominion to the devil, Now my question is DID GOD FORGIVE THE SIN OF ADAM AND EVE?
WHATS YOUR VIEW PLS

Do you know that sin is of two types?

Did Adam ask for the forgiveness of sin?

Your answers to these questions will shield more light to your question.

credibleGod:
yes ooo God is good.

How can someone get a sponsor?

jdilight:
No date of travel and date of return, if your to come back.

I mean any day in March and be back by June.

Thanks

aottravels:
Do u ve America visa cos d place is very close to Bahamas so most airlines goes to Maimi first but i will stil be working on it if is just having Turks and Caicos visa

No I don't!

Alright thanks for that

aottravels:
I never said u cant google it but if u are going to let say Mexico, how to routes it without having issue of transit visa and so on like dat

You didn't reply me I asked, What about Abuja to Turks and Caicos Islands by March?

aottravels:
Yes, they can easily google it but not with some routes like somebody going to Port of Spain or Mexico, Brazil and so on like that, i guess that was what the Op is trying to address but dont kow why he is not responding but kindly ask ur questions about routes and fare that u can not easily google i will address them for you thks

What about Abuja to Turks and Caicos Islands by March?

AgentOfAllah:
Oh! yes of course, predicating the whole premise of your argument on having "faith" in an undefined subject, and requiring your opponent to do the same is exactly what should be termed "mature discussion" for the intelligent ones.

I would actually like to see you have a go at intelligent discussions! Haha

Then what lead to the point of talking about FAITH?

You don't know where we started from you show up and begin to type another thing.

frank317:
ya i saw that and knew it was a mistake. my reply still stands. besides, i never said man will define the process, i said i am waiting in the creator to do all that. the choice is his, if he dosent, there is nothing i can do about it.

But the creator has already done that.

i dont even know the nature of the creator... i know nothing about him/it. but whatever he is, whenever he wants me to see or hear him... I will and i will not doubt him.

Then do you think your nature can allow this creator's nature comes in contact with you?

I dont see what my believe has to do with the existence of the creator or are you saying he only exist when i believe? that makes no sense to me.

if he exists, it has got nothing to do with my believe, once he wants to reach me, he will, weather i believe or not.

if the creator is 100% ready to reach me... cool. i am here and waiting.

i will never answer that question because weather i believe or not should have nothing to do with the existence of the creator. besides like i said before 'I dont want to believe that there is a creator, [size=14pt]i want to know that there is a creator'.[/size] its not a matter of believe to me.

I can see you keep dodging my question

@bolded-Then how will you do it?

In the process of fighting against the word BELIEVE you keep throwing in more confusion.

AgentOfAllah:
Do you know Thor the Hammer god? He hammered your creator out of existence. You may doubt what I'm saying, but that's your business. You're just worshiping a dead creator. How do I know this? FAITH. [size=14pt]I acquired faith in Thor[/size] and he showed me the grave of your creator. You too need faith to see what I saw. Do you now have faith in Thor?

@bolded-why calling yourself Atheist?
This is a mature discussion and not for unintelligent one.

frank317:
Good... I am still waiting on the creator to define the process of how i will know him, thought i said this before.

I'm sorry there was a mistake in my post and I've made the correction instead of CAN'T I wrote CAN

The creator should be more real than my mother.

Are you of the same nature that the creator must be real like your Mother?

if he is ready for me to see or hear him... i will and i will not have reason to doubt him.

Do you believe that the creator exists? I think that's the paramount thing.

How do you want something that is not existing to reveal Himself to you? This is out of logic.

all this faith issue makes no sense to me. if the creator wants me to see him... i will see him that's all.

The creator is 100% ready for you but the first thing is do you believe the creator exists?

You never answer this question.

frank317:
are you the creator?

I'm not.

i dont know of any process, if you think i am lying.... thats your problem not mine

Alright sir!

frank317:
sorry, that is not any process.

To you it might not but to the creator it is because man can't define the process of how to know the creator IT IS the creator who will define how man can know Him.

I dont need faith to believe my mum gave birth to me. I know she gave birth to me.

You don't need faith because you can see a physical being in front of you claiming she did it.

why will i need faith to believe in the creator

You can't see the creator with you naked eyes so YOU MUST FIRST HAVE FAITH in you that THE CREATOR exits.
If you THINK something is not existing why would you have FAITH in the thing in the first place?

frank317:
once again, what process. I never told you i know of any creator's process. It seems you are not reading my post. Did i tell you anything about the creator's process?

You didn't tell me (Though I knew you know about unless if you just want to deny) BUT I was the one TELLING YOU that you need to pass through some processes before you can see and hear from this creator...SINCE YOU SAID UNTIL YOU SEE OR HEAR FROM THE CREATOR that you will believe.

again.... what process

The one you reply to

Hello everyone I have been granted admission in Geothe Institute to learn German for two months, what I want to know now is can I find something be doing within this period or even extend my stay?

Thanks

AgentOfAllah:
Stop dancing around. Who/what's the creator and what is this creator's "process"?

I should stop dancing around so that you can continue

Does that bolded part make any sense to you?

The first process is FAITH-the believe that the creator exist...do you have faith?

frank317:
Lol...that's the problem, I don't know any certain thing to do to see or hear from the creator since I have never had any contact with him.

Your problem is the bolded part, you don't know or you don't want to follow the creator's process?

The creator should know better, therefore if he wants me to see him... I definitely will see or hear from him. For now I have seen or heard from no creator and there is nothing I can do about it.

The point is did you ever follow the process the creator has laid down for you to see and hear from him?

frank317:
What process? Abegoo, no creator gave me any process. Sorry, didn't I just tell you I have no contact with any creator?

But you're the one who said until you see and hear from this creator that you will believe, then I asked if you want to see and hear from this creator, won't you do some certain things?

frank317:
How do I know? since I have no direct contact with the creator.

Then do you think you can have a direct contact with the Creator without passing through any process?

frank317:
Lol... You described what my 'unknown person typing on Nairaland' can do before you reach me only to end up saying they are the process YOU must follow before you can see or hear from me. Stop contradicting yourself to prove a point.

Now if I don't make necessary and clearly defined effort for you to reach me... Then you have the right say I don't exist.

However... Do you realize we are talking about our creator? To me, if there is a creator.. I fantomize him to be way way way way way beyond all these processes.

The simple question is, is there anything to do to have direct contact with this creator if the creator truly exists?

aaronson:
Need I remind you intelligent people never admit being intelligent but arise to the occasion when need be then leaves when the ovation is the loudest!!!

So as you've reminded me then let this occasion arises so that you can get the loudest ovation here and stop attack a straw man.

manichukk56:
if you agree with the creation story of the bible, then it is me who laughs at your ignorance... The bible in itself is a claim not EVIDENCE.. And also personal delusions are not enough proof for the existence of a deity
And you have to tell me why it has to be your God that creates not the hindus, muslim etc

You keep exposing your ignorance...I can't just reply all your post because of what you quickly display here

Who talks about Genesis here?

This is your unintelligent point I replied to "...why people always want a god/deity to create ..." and my reply is so concise "Christianity which I belong to doesn't just want God to create to cause misunderstand between people about our universe RATHER God the Creator has revealed Himself to many people to let them know that He exists and He's the creator of all things."

Please can you tell me how your respond addressed my post?

aaronson:
You become intelligent to turn atheist and not becoming an atheist to get intelligent.....That's more credible and vital reason you can't win an argument over an atheist like me,Naaaahhh not even your pastor.

So can you show us small of your intelligence here by bringing a topic you think no one could win over you?

frank317:
The only way I can believe in God is to see him or hear from him directly. If not, nothing can convince me.

I only know you exist on Nairaland through your posts.

How am I sure you're the one who actually wrote those words?

Now for me to see and hear from you directly, your GHOST (your unknown person typing word on NL) must give me a direction either phone number or address of resident or someone who knows you better can do the work. All these are just the process I MUST FOLLOW before I could see and hear from you

Now do you think if you want to see and hear from God you won't pass through any process?

billadrsbook:
For Turks and Caicos Visa Exempt Counntries.... Nigeria is included. Visit link below

https://www.visittci.com/getting-here/passports-and-visas

Are you currently residing in this place?
If Yes! how is life there?

billadrsbook:
Barbados is no go area for Nigerians. Once you get to Barbados point of entry. They will deport you back to Nigeria.
They hate Nigerians due to Ebola issue
99 Nigerians are currently studying in Barbados, accomodation is very bad, they are even planning to deport them back to Nigeria

What about now that the case has died down?

safarigirl:
o can't receive any e-mail on that address..you can e-mail me via the address on my profile page. Look forward to it

Danke schon

safarigirl:
na by auditorium? Chai!

Just use google

Sorry for bursting into this, did you see my PM?

dodoniyi:
Lagos – Pastor Joe Femi-Dagunro, a senior pastor with the Grace and Glory Chapel, Lagos, on Sunday said that Christian faithful should not indulge in wasteful spending by taking trips to Jerusalem.
The cleric made the remark during an interview in Lagos during the church’ inaugural Thanksgiving Service in Ikeja.
Femi Dagunro said that as much as people could travel to see other climes, they should not attach a trip to Jerusalem as a compulsory task in the practise of Christianity.
He said that such money could be put to more productive use by building industrial and Information Technology parks for the development of the Nigerian youths.
“There is no point for us not to say the truth, if we believe in it. There is nowhere that it is written in the Bible that Christians must visit Jerusalem.
“Jesus did not say: ‘You must visit my tomb.”
“We are wasting money on such trips and that money could be used to support the youth to build industrial parks, or to develop IT parks.
“So, church leaders have a role to speak the truth and advise government on how it can do this,” the cleric said.
He also advised that churches should begin to train their members on skill acquisition, to improve themselves so as to be able to serve the church better and also get opportunities to make better living.
“It is high time that Churches began, as they schedule week days for prayer meetings, to dedicate one day for skill acquisition.
“They can train the people they use in the church, or mentor them, in order to develop the people for their good as well.”
Femi-Dagunro also urged churches to embark on more humanitarian projects such as building cottage hospitals, in addition to building universities.(NAN)

SOURCE: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/jesus-christ-not-task-christians-visiting-jerusalem-says-cleric/

Then did Christian ever claim it's a compulsory task before?

manichukk56:
True, what i can't wrap my head around is [size=14pt]why people always want a god/deity to create[/size] ... What of if sub_quantum fluactuations was what caused our universe to appear

@bolded-I can't stop laughing at your ignorance.

Can any man want God to create?
Christianity which I belong to doesn't just want God to create to cause misunderstand between people about our universe RATHER God the Creator has revealed Himself to many people to let them know that He exists and He's the creator of all things.

I so much love this verse...
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools," Romans 1:22 KJV