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FOLYKAZE: How can you say the bible is the word of God when Mark 16:9-20 was added by the church?

Bible is the word of God!

Mark 16:9-20 you're refering to has been a great confusion for skeptics to hold that it's not in original text of the hebrew book but what they fail to understand was that it's being refered to as a 'FOOTNOTE' in today's version.

Truly it wasn't there in original text. The original text stops at verse 8 but in today's version verse 8 end with this phrase ",.......for they were afraid." but at the end of this verse 8 in original text this statement was omitted and one manuscript has it after verse 8 (omitting verses 9-20): Then they quickly reported all these instructions to those around Peter. After this, Jesus himself also sent out through them from east to west the sacred and imperishable proclamation of eternal salvation. Amen.

@colorbold- this is what later translated to verses 9-20 and if you read and compare this statement with that verses 9-20 it perfectly fits into them.

Shallom!!!

FOLYKAZE: psalm 46; Is this what proceed from God?


How can you say the bible is word of God when King James in 1610 commanded his men who were translating the bible into English, to insert the name of his good friend, “Shakespear “, into the 46th Psalms as a 46 birthday gift. William Shakespear was 46 years old in 1610 the year that the bible was completed being translated into English. Get a King James Version of the bible & count 46 words starting with the first word in Psalms 46 you will come to Shake, and if you count 46 words up from the last word {refuge} In Psalms 46 you will get to Spear. {Note: The updated version of the bible have replaced the word “shake” with the word “quake” in an attempt to cover up this forgery.}

See another delusion! So because shake & spear appear in Psalm 46 and if you count it from up & down you will see 46 words before each words means King James used it to compensate his friend's effort. If you're the one to insert your name, will you allow your name to be scartered like that? First name 'shake' appear in verse 3 & the last name appear in verse 9. If you read the whole chapter carefully without being close-minded you will know the whole chapter is talking about the mighty work of God. Though they may change change the word 'spare' to another word just to make it clearer.

Afterall you're a christian before you become an atheist and nobody stops you because you fail to conceived the real word of God into your heart which I always pray that God in His infinite mercy will locate those who has missed it somewhere.

Like I always say I'm not a pastor and I don't own any any church so that you won't think I want to deceive you with my words but I have many personal evidence to claim that God exist.

Shallom!!!

Kay 17: Whenever I do something bad or good, I don't see spirits and neither do I lose selfcontrol.

But there's a spirit behind all actions, and your conscience is there to convince you either good or bad action.

If you want to feel any power of external spirit then you must follow the procedure of people who have experienced the same.

That doesn't prove God is omniscient.

I didn't answer this question. God is omniscient because all natural laws broke out from Him. He knows the right chemicals He puts together that made up life under normal atmospheric condition and power to make them reproduce according to their kinds. He is the one that wrote DNA informations and created biometric molecules to compiled it. He also knows what dark energy is made up e.t.c

Kay 17: In other words, the best evidence for spirits is within the subjective experience of a few people?

No! Not subjective to some people but everyone either a good spirit or a bad spirit. You can't tell me that everybody loves you. The spirit that makes some people to hate you is a bad spirit which sometimes you may possess as a person.

That doesn't at all prove the omniscience of God, rather proves man's limited knowledge. So I ask again, how do you know God is omniscient?

What beyond the relm of science has to do with supernatural which God has claimed. 'A supernatural Being'.

If man has limited knowledge;

*why man then seeking the most powerful, all-knowing God with their finite wisdom empirically?

*why man always place himself in the position of God Almighty?

Mudley313: Here ya go...
* the bat is a bird (Lev. 11:19, Deut. 14:11, 18)

Point one Bible didn't mention BIRD I believe you add that one to support your false claim. This is where the Bible verse started from Lev 11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
NOTE: the fowls there was translated from HEBREW word OWPH meaning every flying creature. Does bat fly or walk?

* some fowls are four-footed (Lev. 11:20-21)

Again another lie to cover your claim. Bible didn't say they have four feet. Notice the bold here; Lev 11:20 All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.
21 Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;

they have two legs and two wings!

* some creeping insects have four legs. (Lev. 11:22-23)

Nothing like insect in that verse. The question you should ask from that verse is, what are these four feet creeping things? because Bible didn't mention them.

* hares chew the cud (Lev. 11:6)
* conies chew the cud (Lev. 11:5)

The hebrew word where hares & coney was translated is "SAPHAN" which can best describe as "HYRAX" though there's a little misusage of this word in translation of Bible by King James but at original text it was not so.

* camels don't divide the hoof (Lev. 11:4)

Remember camel hoof is only split halfway not as you thing.

* the earth was formed out of and by means of water (2 Peter 3:5 RSV)

please what support your own evidence that earth was not formed out of water?

* the earth rest on pillars (1 Sam. 2:
* the earth won't be moved (1 Chron. 16:30)

You misconstructe the message passing by the writer, earth rest on NOTHING Job Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

* the rainbow is not as old as rain and sunshine (Gen. 9:13)

Do you believe early earth atmosphere doesn't have free oxygen? Which means water couldn't have formed in the early atmosphere.

* a mustard seed is the smallest of all seeds and grows into the greatest of all shrubs (Matt. 13:31-32 RSV)

Jesus statement here was directly for people He was addressing which in BLACK mustard seed was the smallest then and if Jesus talks about unknown seed how His PARABLE will be understood.

* turtles have voices (Song of Sol. 2:12)

You miss the real message there. The same verse says "brirds are singing". Is just a figurative phrase!

* the earth has ends or edges (Job 37:3)
* the earth has four corners (Isa. 11:12, Rev. 7:1)

You miss it here again, Job is talking about how God is directing lightning from North-South and West-East. While Isaiah was talking about FOUR CARDINAL ponit.

[qoute]* some 4-legged animals fly (Lev. 11:21)[/quote]Prove it wrong

* the world's language didn't evolve but appeared suddenly (Gen. 11:6-9)

This is even one thing that prove evolution wrong, language didn't evolve!

* a fetus can understand speech (Luke 1:44)

It didn't happen in the Bible, it has happened in this Nigeria. Try to browse the history of 'Moses' founder of Cherubim & Seraphim Church.

* the moon is a light source like the sun (Gen 1:16)

It's a lie! Compare to this verse Matt 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light".....

If Moon has light Jesus could not have said after the darkeness of the Sun, Moon won't give its light. You simply misconstruct the statement there also.

Read more here......
https://www.nairaland.com/1305164/things-only-god-could-known

gbadexy: I know God is the good guy and satan is evil. Satan worship world over consists of blood rituals and evil/ negative energy. Witches and wizards are 100% real and the type whether black or red simply depends on the type of jinn attached to the witch and they report to devil. I have fair idea about that. The satan doesn't even send his worshipers.
God encourages goodness and rewards for it. Most laws of all religion is about goodness to fellow man and only a single one about worshiping Him.
I just have problem with divinity of jesus, and seeming game by God and satan with humans as the pun. Islam and christianity admitted as much that satan said he would mislead humans and God said he should try and see with satan given the powers of various temptation and humans just warning.
I'm musing loud now. Perhaps God knows what satan would do before creating him and this life is just a testing ground to sieve out worthy creatures or why would He ask satan to bow to man in the first place.
Maybe satan is the real pun from the beginning to use in testing man.
I worship •̸Ϟ•̸y creator though and try to do good. I guess we all would find out the truth after death. Death is an adventure I'm not in a hurry to experience but look forward to after fulfillment on earth.

What most people fail to know is that "our God has emotion" too. I can see someone quote Isaiah talking about God creating "evil" is true because He's the one who created Satan. In Genesis 3 where we read that devil deceived Eve, if you read it carefully when God came to pay them visit and they told God they're naked; and God asked Adam, how did you know you're naked? Adam replied "the woman you gave me enticed me to eat the fruit. Immediately God asked the woman; and the woamn said it is serpent(devil) that enticed her to eat but to the serpent; He couldn't find anyone to acuse! Meaning any action performed by satan it's self-will. "though God knows about it" Before God begins to curse them.

Bible scholars have looked into the scenaro and concluded that the SPIRIT that God used to create Angels is totally different from that man (that's why God still call them to witness the creation of man).

Give more detail tomorrow!

Kay 17: What is a spirit? How is it perceived?

Spirit is an unseen being that can talk, act like forces, possess physical body e.t.c but no blood and water. (human being has spirit)

Whenever someone will perceive
a higher spirit that greater than human's own it will look as if a hug of force descended on the person i.e in case of the Holyspirit nobody can withstand His force, He will surely pull you down. though we have some fake pastors laying there're hands on some people using fake power to make someone fall.
I believe if atheist can look beyond the lies(just try to be open minded) that God does not exist and search for the truth they will surely find God. "Matt 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God".

Like I always say, I believe in science more than some atheist on NL but if not because I've received the baptism of the Holyspirit I might have turn atheist today. I'm not a pastor but I solely believed in the existence of God because I have had personal encountered with Him.

How did you know that?

Human beings are limited in their knowledge like in a case of Consciousness, DNA Information, Origin of Life, Dark energy, and Afterlife they all beyond any human comprehension.

Then truly ask yourself, what makes all these things so hard for human to comprehend despite all the advancement in Technology?

Kay 17: There is no God and we don't fully understand Consciousness.

Kay 17 I don't believe this! Anyway because it's an immaterials(spirit) you can't fully understand it.

[quote author=From_Guiriga]The content inside is what makes it holy?
Can you give me a reference inside this holy book where it says it is holy?
What is holy?

Give thanks.
[/quote]Because it proceded out from God!

Shallom!!!

Mudley313: You got all that bullshit verses from "101 Scientific Facts and Foreknowledge" from fundamentalist christian group, Eternal Productions, that usually attempts to demonstrate the credibility of the bible by finding passages that supposedly demonstrate foreknowledge of scientific facts by finding allegorical, metaphorical, and poetic phrases, and then interpreting them to fit their point. All the parts of the bible that are scientifically wrong? Ignored.

@bold-can you quote one verse that is wrong about science in Bible?

Evil Brain: Atheists believe in what we have evidence for. I don't believe in God because there's no credible empirical evidence that such a being has ever existed.

Now you're using science as a back bone for no believing in God. Do you know that some open-minded skeptic scientists have come to conclusion that there's something 'PARANORMAL' about this nature. They said R. Dawkins is too close minded in his research to ignore aspect of paranormal.

If I may ask; what does dark energy make up/ what is happening inside the dark energy?

Atheist do believe that most people that claim God exist lack science, NO! We only try to let you people know that there are things which beyond empirical evidence or prove in this universe.

Atheists believe in rationality because it works. Like Richard Dawkins said: Planes fly, computers compute, drugs work. All the technological and medical advances humanity has ever made have only come about when people apply logic without regard to religion or superstition. Nobody has ever used the information in the bible or Koran to invent anything.

You miss it here! Informations in some religions book i.e Bible brought expansion of knowledge started from Before the birth of Christ(BC) and After His death (AD), that's why any new thing scientist discover today must be compared with what is written in the Bible.

As to our view on consciousness, there is no single atheist view. Consciousness is very difficult to define and we all have different ways of viewing it. Atheism is not a religion and we don't have any fixed dogma or shared world view. We all believe in different things, the only thing we have in common is our refusal to accept religious proclamations without evidence to back them up.

I thought you stated it earlier that through empirical evidence made you believe that there's no God, how come @bold, do you know now that afterlife has been proving true?

Atheism is a religion and the dogma or share world view of atheist are;
*matter came from energy and energy cannot be created nor destroyed.
*human evolve from ape-like.
*nature consists ony matters (mass and energy) nothing like immaterials.
*God cannot be empirically proved.

Unless if all the above statements are wrong then atheist don't have a world view or believe in any dogma.

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OLAADEGBU: For semi-creationists who claim that the "days" of Genesis 1 must have been long periods of time, a more serious problem arises.  Genesis plainly teaches that plants appeared on Day Three, and the sun on Day Four.  But plants need sunlight for photosynthesis and cannot wait in darkness for millions of years.  If the days were long epochs, as demanded by critics of a literal Creation Week, plants could not survive.

@bold - That's is the major problem of any one putting on the glass of million years of evolutionary to alter the day of Genesis. I pray they will listen and learn.

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Is Quran free from error or contradcition?

ayenny02: you didn't show me anything except you exposed more of your falsehood

I know the truth is so far away from you for typing this and it really shows that Quran is full of lies. If you can remember, I've asked you on this same thread that did Quran support lie? To win an arguement is not by lying.

I stop to repling to your post because you keep exposing your ignorance.

Yes, enough contradiction see urself here https://www.nairaland.com/1337631/book-god-what-happened

compare these two statement @ayenny

Jesus said abt Mohammad (saw) not holy spirit

Why can't you be specific?

If you want to condem Bible, condem It and if you want to support It so that you can use It as an evidence for the coming of spirit-to-man support It and stand on your point.

For you to claim that Bible contradict and still claim Bible support the coming of spirit-to-man it means you're du.mbness.

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Incase you're among those 27M you can do something between now and Sunday or you can still comfirm from your network customer care to be very sure your SIM has been registered.

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ayenny02: I have shown you where some prophet of God have more than one wife and they even married more than We muslims because we should not marry more than fourGood that you accepted that they didn't ask jesus abt polygamy. They just approached jesus with a question about whether or not it is allowed for a man to divorce his wife

Now listen to yourself prophet marry more than one wife, the point or question you haven't answered is was it written that they can marry more than one or the act was performed by individual that do so?

That verses was talking abt DIVORCE NOT POLYGAMY

Do you understand!!!!!!!!

Yes I do!
What I'm saying is, the question is base on divorce but the answer is more than divorce according to the verse "He said to them,“Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives,...." definitely there're other things that Moses will permit them to do not because it is a law. Even the evidence is very glering as we can see in the Bible. They provoke him(Moses), rejected his God e.t.c

ayenny02: NOW YOU HAVE HUG THE TRANSFORMER

You said jesus is GOD. Fine!

From your answer to my Question 2, you said Jesus is Son of God.

Now I want you to take one out of the TWO, Either you take Jesus is God and deny Jesus is Son of God OR
Take Jesus is Son of God and deny Jesus is God
Pls take ONE and DENY one

Both!!!

The perspective that Jesus call Himself the son of God is on earth which is what they are expecting from God but the perspective that Jesus is God is clear in many of His statements

He said where two or three are gather in my name I will be there-Omnipresent

He said also: "after the tribulation, shall the sun darken, and the moon will fail to give is light......"Omniscient because He created them He knows that without sun, moon can't give light--comfirmed by scientist.

Many more of His statement.

My Question is WHO added mark 9-20

Me!

Why simple english is your problem? Try to reread the post you quote for an answer.

ayenny02: Yes. You must show where jesus said Polygamy is not allowed by God. If you can't show it definitely Bible and God support itWhich verses you shown to you, did it relate to Polygamy
In the verses you qouted, we see that Jesus was approached with a question about whether or not it is allowed for a man to divorce his wife in Matthew 19:3.  Jesus immediately referred to the Old Testament for the answer in Matthew 19:4. He referred to Adam and Eve, one man and one woman.  The Old Testament does talk about the story of Adam and Eve as one husband and one wife.   However, the Old Testament which Jesus had referred to in Matthew 19:3 does allow polygamy.

Then show where the Bible says you can practise POLYGAMY.

DID THEY ASK HIM ABOUT POLYGAMY?

No! But why did you conclude He allows polygamy too?

Beside must you being told before you descerned that no two wifes was allowed in His statement. Remember is plainly written in Quran.

Can you show me in bible where God said to those Prophets that Married more than one wife that God was not allow it and they just done it on their own interest

Mathew 19:8 -He said to them,“Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives,......"

From this verse the divorce, and any other thing they practiced was permitted not a law but because the question was centered on divorce yet as an intellectual somebody you can reason that some things were permitted not given as law. The laws are difference from what they permit them to do.


What do you understand in this statement?
"Matt 19:6-So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

ayenny02: [img][/img]Yes. I believe that we all came from God.

Jesus said "Here, O Israel:  The Lord our God is one Lord."   The words "our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him.  Jesus didn't say "Your God".  He said "our God" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD.

My Question is Can we call JESUS is God Himself?

If it is the issue of Jesus is God is already being proved. Jesus is the Lord(God)!!!

Don't derail the thread.

The oldest copies of the Gospel of Mark, the Sinaitic and Vatican, end at Mark 16:8. A note in the New International Version of the Bible states: "The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20." Verses 9 to 20 appear to have been added later by an unknown person

WHO ADDED verses 9 to 20?

Initially verses 9-20 was not in the original manuscript but in that footnote they make it clear that at the end of verse 8 of original manuscript this statement was there which was omitted in interpretaion of verse 8 "Then they quickly reported all these instructions to those around Peter. After this, Jesus himself also sent out through them from east to west the sacred and imperishable proclamation of eternal salvation. Amen. It was this statement they interpreted to verses 9-20 and if you look at this statement is correlated with the statement in that verses 9-20, get wisdom ayenny!

The people that later interpret the Bible from original manuscripts added it. Nothing like forgery.

So you are telling me that Catholic Bible was not from God, it was forgery

Is Quran a book from God and forgery?

ayenny02: In Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry.

In Deuteronomy 21:15 "If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons...."

After my explanation on the two verses you can still hold on to it as an evidence.

ayenny02: This man you get problem. I said give me verses where JESUS SAID POLYGAMY IS PROHIBITED in Bible

must it be wirtten boldly that POLYGAMY is not allow when many verse has been shown to you, what else do you want?

You just want to calim that Bible support polygamy so that Quran is right too practice it.

Let me remind you Jesus said: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets;

This verse is a major one that most people misinterpreted in Bible. See @ayenny you can't interpret Bible without having the Holyspirit(pracalete) in you.

Jesus statement here is as clear as pure water. He didn't come to deny their laws or any prophets who gave the laws but to let them know that He came to fulfill them.

Then if I may ask; are you fuifilling law or you obey law? But because the Jews believe that the Old Testament is full of laws that why they refer to it sometime as Mosaic Law (Book) that's why Jesus refers to book as laws but indirectly He was talking about the prophecies inside.

I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.  I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished.  (Matthew 5:17-18)"

Wxplain above

Let us look at some of the verses from the Old Testament that allow polygamy:

In Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry.

In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3, King David had six wives and numerous concubines.

In 1 Kings 11:3, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

In 2 Chronicles 11:21, King Solomon's son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines.

In Deuteronomy 21:15 "If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons...."

All this mentioning above is people that marry more than one wife I'm expecting you to quote where Bible says you can marry more than one wife. Not that Bible allow it but they decided to do it in their own ways.
And Jesus says the reason why it was allow to be so in the Old Testament but later says from beginning it was one wife one husband which we must continue.

You can continue to marry wife as many as you want because Quran support it but we christians know that it's one wife and one husband because Bible against it.

There are a lot more verses from the Old Testament that allow polygamy, but I think that the above are sufficient enough to prove my point.

Out of it!!!

ayenny02: in John 10:30, jesus and God = God
in John 17:21-23, Disciples +Jesus+ God=God

Your last equation is correct as you equate it to God because we all came out from God but it will be more perfect if the third entity (Jesus) is added, have you added Jesus to your life to be one in God? remember this is the major reason while Jesus came to this world to reconcile us back to God. I so much love this your equation.

why can't we called disciples "God" when Jesus was called God

What you miss there is that Jesus was talking about their life after His departure.

Details of John 17:21-23 in bracket!

21that they all may be one(be in unity), as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us(have a body of Christ and spirit of His Father), that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one(be in unity) just as We are one(as nobody can seperate Jesus and His Father): 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one,(be in unity with us) and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

The point Jesus want to bring out is them to be in unity so that they can be part of His Father

http://niv.scripturetext.com/mark/16.htm

The key point you miss here it that you fail to get the clue of what they meant by footnote, Footnotes:
a8 Some manuscripts have the following ending between verses 8 and 9, and one manuscript has it after verse 8 (omitting verses 9-20): Then they quickly reported all these instructions to those around Peter. After this, Jesus himself also sent out through them from east to west the sacred and imperishable proclamation of eternal salvation. Amen.

@bold-at original manuscripts they omitted the statement above which they later translated to verse 9-20.

Do you believe in Apocrypha

Is Apocrypha God? Why will I believe in Apocrypha? They're books written after the prophet Malachi inwhich the Jews themselves confess that no voice of any prophets were heard during that perion.

ayenny02: If you read Matthew (28:1-10), Mark (16:1-20), Luke (24:1-12), and John (20: 1-18), you will find contradicting stories. They all agreed that the tomb was guarded for three days. However, they reported the discovery of the empty tomb differently.

They all gave an accurate account about the tomb but the perspective you interpret them to cover the truth make it looks that way.

Matthew (28) and John (20) reported that Mary Magdalene and the other Mary were the first to discover the tomb.

Yes!!!

Mark (16) reports that Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome were the first to discover the empty tomb.

Yes! The report of Mathew and John just make it clear that it's not one Mary but other Mary was there too which Mark gave the actual detail of the other Mary, because of a day like this.

Mark (28) reports that there was an earthquake that removed the rock from over the tomb. He says that an angel caused it. The other gospels do not mention of an earthquake.

I believe you mean Mathew here because Mark stop @ 16!

Mathew was the only Gospel that gives details of how the stone was removed while other just talk about event that happened after the stone has been removed, if not a day like this your question might be; how the stone was removed by two women or do they sure that the tomb was covered? Mathew also report what happened to the keepers for the fear of the angel that rolled it away.

Matthew and Mark say that only ONE man in white clothes was sitting on the tomb when the women arrived, and that he was an angel.

Their report is at the entering of the tomb not inside the tomb. That's why Mathew report the Angel said to them ".....come, see the place where the Lord lay." Matt 28:6 meanwhile, Mark report the Angel said "....: behold the place where they laid Him". Which means the Angel gave them the order to enter in both gospel and usher them in.

Luke says that TWO men in white clothes, who were angels, were sitting.

When they enter they saw two men whom are Angels. The other angel is Jesus that appeared inform of an angel--Angel that appear inform of Christ is called Christophany while inform of God is called Theophany.

Johns says that the two women did not meet anybody the first time they came to the tomb, but when they returned, they saw TWO people, ONE was an ANGEL, and the other was JESUS.

Note: John first report was after the women went and call Jesus desciples as you can see Peter was there meanwhile others report event of the two women only before they call the desciples.
It was John who made it clear that what LUKE report is truely an angel but the other one is an angel who appears as Christophany.

Matthew reports that when the guards reported this to the chief priest, the chief priest paid them a large sum of money, telling them: "You have to say that his disciples came at night and stole his body." He claims that the soldiers took money and spread the story around and since then, the story had been circulating among the Jews until today (according to Matthew). The other gospels do not report of any such thing.

Mathew report only to let you know how cunning the Jews are, after the keepers reported the real incident they still want to cover the truth: (as Ayenny is doing today) to make it seems fake but if Jesus' body was stolen who now woke Him up from death? because He resurrected and show Himself to many people before He was taken to Heaven.

Are you preparing for His second coming because has He was taken into heaven, He will surely return likewise.

QUESTION 6. Which narration now is more authentic?

All!!!

ayenny02: QUESTION 1. So why did they give the previous "one" a different meaning from the other five "ones?

Because you've been blindfolded you're unable to realised that Jesus was praying for His desciple they should be one as 'He and His father' are one. Refer to Act 2:1 "When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord in one place." Which Jesus has prayed for.

QUESTION 2. Why does the Bible say that Jesus wanted to die on the cross, when the one on the cross was shouting "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" according to Matthew 27:45 and Mark 15:33?

Because God's eyes cannot behold iniquity, He has to forsake His only begotten Son.
 

QUESTION 3. Christians say that people go to Heaven ONLY THROUGH JESUS, yet Paul says in 1 CORINTHIANS 7:8-16

Your assumption here is totally false. Paul only addresses the issue of marriage as a christian marry an unbeliever. John 14:6 "Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."

 

QUESTION 4. Christians say that the Paraclete means the Holy Spirit (John 14;26). Jesus said in John 16:7-8 "If I do not go away the Paraclete will not come to you". This could not mean the Holy spirit, since the Holy spirit was said to have been there before Jesus was even born as in Luke 1:41 "Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit". Here, the Holy spirit was also present during Jesus life time. So how could this fit with the condition that Jesus must go away so that the Holy spirit will come?

Proved: Holyspirit is the comforter!

QUESTION 5. If the Holy Spirit.....

Not all christians are truely Christ-like. People that are truely Christlike enjoying the existence of God, Jesus and the Holyspirit in their life. By the way the same is applicable to Muslim to can you give your reason?
 

QUESTION 7. Why doesn’t Mark 16:9-20 exist in as many versions of the Bible while it exists as a footnote or between brackets in some other versions? Is a footnote in the Bible still considered as God’s word, especially when it addresses an important feature like the Ascension?

Where did you read it that is a footnote?

QUESTION 8. Why does the Catholic Bible contain 73 books while the Protestant Bible has only 66? With both claiming to have the complete Word of God, which one should be believed and why?

They were more than 14 books called Apocrypha written close at the end of the OT (400BC), the Jews themselves clearly state that no voice of any prophets was heard during this time and the OT has been compiled called Septuagin before the Birth of Christ. So some people still went ahead to include those Apocrypha into their book. John 8:32 "Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall made you free"

QUESTION 9. As a Christian, do you agree that out of fairness and honesty you must investigate what Islam says about God, Jesus, including this life and the hereafter?

If not some Christians have been quoting from Quran on this thread as you can see. BUT do you also do the same to Bible?

QUESTION10. Being a Christian, do you also believe that we must all stand accountable to our Creator and that the Creator is Perfect and Just? As a sincere believer in God, don’t you owe it upon yourself to find out the entire unadulterated truth regardless of the consequences.

God will never lie! So He said and that's how it will be.

Question 6 to be answer later because of space.

@Ayenny

Let me just say this; though I may continue to help your ignorance after you agree with my conclusion.

Firstly, you stake on Marriage: it's just a pity that you interpret Bible just to suit your fallacious point not what the Bible really teaches.

You claim no verse in the NT tha support single wife whereas Jesus statement make it clear that is one wife.
Matt 19:4-6 "4 And He answered and said to them,“Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”
Note the @bold carefully.

Later they quote from Moses book and He reply them this way in verse 8-9 "8 He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”

because of their heart hardedness that's why moses said they can divorce their wife but Jesus now tell them whosoever that do so committed adultery. Immediately, His desciples realised that the law is too hard they reply it's better not to even marry then but He let them know it's possible but only for those who are ready to receive it--verse 11-12
Even God hate divorce Malachi 2:16 “For the Lord God of Israel says That He hates divorce,
For it covers one’s garment with violence,”...........

So for Christian it is one wife and one husband.

You quote Exodus 21:10, Deut 21:15.

That's why I always shake my head when I see the way you twist Bible just to support your lies and the truth is so far away from you and you didn't realise it yet you just want to prove your religion is right by condeming Bible.

In Exodus 21:10 that you quote why can't you tell the truth for once AYENNY, and did Quran support lie too?

The verse is talking about a maidservant under his master that if pleases his master to marry her to his son, the maidservant must have the final say. In v10 the writer continue that if the master marry another wife for his son the right of that maidservant must be granted. Then it means if you don't have a maidservant you must not marry two wife, and for the people that have maidservant with what is happening today if I ask, how many rich man's son can marry their housemaid? though it happens sometimes but the range is very wide.

In Deu 21:15 Moses said IF a man is not FOR you that have it simply means is something that is not common but in case it happens then this is how to treat them---whereas Jesus make it clear why Moses permitted them in Math 19 and Jesus made it clear it was not so, it still remains one wife and one husband.

For us to continue with the remaining question, do you believe that Bible contradict? And for you to believe then Jesus is not talking about Muhammad. Agree or Disagree?

Arosa: Good luck with that, you are going to need it.

I dey tell you, ten years of my research.

unphilaz: Jesus Christ the Enigma.

This personality has baffled men on three or so points

- Did He Exist

- If He Exist, Was He crucified?

- If He was crucified, Did he really resurrect?

I dey tell you!

It always baffles and I make me ask myself, is it because they can hold on to their belief/evidence or as a result of conscience?

The next arguement will be "we want the video evidence of His resurrection".

All of you we soon begin to patronize made in Nigeria by the time I invent my own engine that doesn't use petrol, diesel or battery. Just AIR & Water!