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Foreign AffairsRe: Barack Obama Vs Mitt Romney : Election Night Thread by EreluY(f): 6:07am On Nov 07, 2012
[size=18pt]DEFEAT IS BITTER, REPUBLICANS ARE STILL COUNTING AND CAN'T SWALLOW THIS BITTER PILL[/size]
Foreign AffairsRe: Barack Obama Vs Mitt Romney : Election Night Thread by EreluY(f): 5:53am On Nov 07, 2012
[size=18pt]I THOUGHT I'LL BE ABLE TO SEND BACK ALL THOSE AFRICAN-AMERICANS BACK TO THE UNITED STATES OF AFRICA. NOW, I CAN'T. THEY'RE HERE TO STAY FOR EVER.[/size]


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Foreign AffairsRe: Barack Obama Vs Mitt Romney : Election Night Thread by EreluY(f): 5:47am On Nov 07, 2012
[size=18pt]MY DAD LOST, I LOST, MY FAMILY PROBABLY NEEDS DELIVERANCE...[/size]

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Foreign AffairsRe: Barack Obama Vs Mitt Romney : Election Night Thread by EreluY(f): 5:39am On Nov 07, 2012
ramalot: FREAKIN LOSER!
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[size=18pt]U WANNA KILL PERSON...YOU MEAN VOTE COUNT FROM IDAHO EKITI[/size]
Foreign AffairsRe: Barack Obama Vs Mitt Romney : Election Night Thread by EreluY(f): 5:25am On Nov 07, 2012
Foreign AffairsRe: Barack Obama Vs Mitt Romney : Election Night Thread by EreluY(f): 5:17am On Nov 07, 2012
Foreign AffairsRe: Obama Or Romney- Who Would You Vote For? by EreluY(f): 8:33pm On Nov 05, 2012
[size=28pt]OBAMA[/size]
SportsRe: The Williams Sisters Exhibition Match In Lagos (Pictures) by EreluY(f): 8:31pm On Nov 05, 2012
ayospecie: An exhibition match between the Williams sisters (Serena & Venus) took place on the 2nd November 2012 at the Lagos Tennis Club...Venus felt the centre net wasn't of professional standard...
WE CAN'T GOVERN OURSELVES ADEQUATELY. NEITHER CAN WE SUCCESSFULLY HOST, TO PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS, A MERE TENNIS MATCH. WHAT ELSE CAN WE EFFICIENTLY DO IN THIS COUNTRY?
PoliticsRe: Picture Of Gov. Fashola Kissing His Wife by EreluY(f): 8:19pm On Nov 05, 2012
[size=18pt]IS FASHOLA A POLYGAMIST, MONOGAMIST OR MONOGAMIST WITH FEMALE ACCESSORIES?[/size]
PoliticsRe: Who Is Capable Of Leading Nigeria Now?: Your Opinion by EreluY(f): 7:59pm On Nov 05, 2012
[size=18pt]NUHU RIBADU[/size]
EducationRe: Canada To Deport 2 Nigerian Students by EreluY(f): 2:12am On Nov 05, 2012
In Western Europe and North America, once you fall foul of the law or widely accepted moral code, it's basically over for that person. Second chance is a very rare thing, especially if you are a coloured person or if you're unlucky to come from Nigeria. I sympathise and empathise with these girls and hope Nigerians relocating to go and work/study abroad would strictly abide by the rules and code of conduct of their host countries. In most of these countries, it's become extremely difficult to evade immigration enforcements, neither can one evade CRB checks. Besides, I've seen no other culture that has perfected the business or act of gossiping. All in all let's be careful.
Christianity EtcRe: Reasons Why Some Christians Converted To Atheism - My Observations On Nairaland by EreluY(f): 5:23pm On Nov 04, 2012
plaetton: My journey to atheism.

I was never a dedicated christian(whatever that means).
Like everyone else, I was forced-fed on christianity before I was able to think. When I was able to think, I tried very much to make sense of it, but somehow,it never made any sense. So I became obsessed with trying to understand it. They more I looked, The more I prayed to the holy spirit to come into me and make me understand, the less sense it all made.
God was a contradiction,Jesus was a contradiction, the Pope was a contradiction, prayer was a contradiction,blessing was a contradiction,sin was contradiction,forgiveness was a contradiction, judgement, heaven and hell were all contradictions.

At a time when being born again was in vogue, I was the odd person out. I tried so much to see the light, I read the bible day and night, I prayed for the holy spirit to infuse my mind with its mystery and new way of understanding,but all to no avail.
The more I tried , the more silly the whole thing seemed.

In my tender age, the very important tangents occured when,in my search, I discovered ,

A. That Jesus was neither from my Village, the neighboring village, nor even my townsman.lol
B. That Israel was not even In Africa, but in a very far place that most people cannot even find on a map.
C. That Jesus lived 2000yrs ago(that was a real shocker)
D.Finally, when in class two secondary school, I read Chinua Achebe's Things Fall Apart and finally realized how Christianity came to our shores as perfect tool for the pacification,division and control of African people.
It struck me as not being a mere coincidence that modern Europeans themselves were not teaching religion to their children because they themselves had long jettisoned religion.

By mid secondary school, I had confirmed that organised religion was the perfect fraud.
However, I remained puzzled about the nature of god, and was still intrigued by ,and even revered the character of Jesus, based solely on the teachings attributed to him. By this time, I had become an Agnostic.
So my hunger and thirst for understanding religion only increased. So over the years ,I went on a reading frenzy to discover all I could about the various religions and their histories, especially the Judeo-Christian religions.

Another turning point in my road to atheism occurred some years ago when , one after another as if by design , I cam across in a bookstore, 3 books that really laid rest to my mind, the mystery of god.

The first one was the Pulitzer-Award winning book by former Jesuit priest Jack Miles, aptly titled, "God, A Biography". This is recommended reading for everyone.
The other book,again a best seller,by British Journalist Karen Armstrong titled " The History of God" even had a greater influence on my thinking.
http://www.amazon.com/History-God-000-Year-Judaism-Christianity/dp/0345384563

The third book, The one that threw the knock-out punch was titled[b] "God: A Brief History" by John Bowker[/b], former dean of Trinity College in Cambridge.
http://www.amazon.com/God-Brief-History-John-Bowker/dp/0789480506

After reading this last one, I had a sort of an epiphany, a great realization.
Yes.
OMG.
That was it .
God is a mystery because god is an evolving idea, or a set of evolving notions and ideals.
That is why god had different, even contradicting characteristics.
That is why god was different from individual to individual, from culture to culture, from era to era: Because god was in the mind. Each mind or cultural mindset, creates its own god.
That is why wicked people or wicked prophets create a wicked god, kind and loving people or prophets create a kind and loving god.
That is why greedy people and prophets create a greedy money-grabbing god.
Wow!
So the quality of the god created depends on the quality of the mind that creates it.
Bingo!!
SO I had finally found god, right in the sacred ,but fragmented precincts of the human mind.

So religion was just a set of contrived notions and ideals patched together, often by the stronger, in order to control the weaker.




As for understanding the origin and dynamics of the universe, I have turned to my scientific education in physics as my guide.
[size=18pt]THANKS FOR SHARING THIS IMPRESSIVE JOURNEY OF YOURS![/size]
RomanceRe: Are Male Bankers Really Stingy? by EreluY(f): 2:51pm On Nov 04, 2012
NEGZY: Won't say they are stingy buh will say some of them to an extent brag so much about what dey can afford buh at d end of d day cnt even give quarter of what dey brag about. So promiscuous,go on so much sexhaul dates...............blah blah blah. Well I blame gals who date dem cos I can't. Why will dey go out with so many gals especially ones dey cnt afford. So sorry to say dis,some of dem re broke asses dat live on loan and show of to gullible hoes.
[size=18pt]WOW YOU REALLY BASHED THEM[/size]
Christianity EtcRe: Reasons Why Some Christians Converted To Atheism - My Observations On Nairaland by EreluY(f): 2:38pm On Nov 04, 2012
[b]Christianity, like any other world religions, is a scam. Christians, including this writer, like adherents of other world religions are scammers living double lifestyles. Imagine the atrocious secrets exposed by the Pope's former butler; consider the sex scandal rocking the Roman Catholic Church; imagine the scandalous financial empires built around Oyedepo, Okoties, Asimolowo, etc; and imagine Islam which allegedly is a religion of peace and whose adherents are responsible for the most violent crimes of the 21st century CE. To come to this site and spew rubbish to explicate why some gravitated from theism (and I am one of them) to atheism (agnosticism in my case) exemplifies scammers that adherents of religions are.

Because scammers are liars and because liars often contradict themselves so is their scriptures. For example, Genesis 1: 26-27 contradicts Genesis 2: 7, 21-22. In the former, God allegedly created man and woman simultaneously ["God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them"]. In the latter, man was allegedly first created and woman thereafter allegedly created from man ["Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being...So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man"].

The bible from the very first narrative - the creation stories - grossly conradict itself, symbolising and exemplifying a scam that the book is in all its entirety.
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Christianity EtcRe: Atheists Are More "Moral" Than Christians/muslims (the Evidence). Do You Accept? by EreluY(f): 11:03am On Nov 04, 2012
If we acknowledge the thesis that morality and religion are logically independent; and, the fact that religion, paradoxically, has been responsible for much of the good and evil witnessed in this world both historically and contemporaneously, we wouldn't be debating this matter.
PoliticsRe: Aftermath Of Catholic Church Bombing In Malali, Kaduna by EreluY(f): 5:33pm On Oct 28, 2012
[size=18pt]WHAT IS GEJ DOING TO SEND THESE ANIMALS BACK TO WHERE THEY PROPERLY BELONG - THE ZOO?[/size]
Christianity EtcRe: Post Yoruba Christian Hymns Here by EreluY(f): 12:06am On Oct 28, 2012
The OP and all those who have posted hymn stanzas here have catapulted me back to not only my primary and secondary (Anglican mission) school days when SOP, the hymnal, was on the list of books, but also to the days when I sang in the church choir. Incidentally, I've since mutated from theism to agnosticism.
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo's Winners' Chapel Accused Of Exploiting British Worshippers by EreluY(f):
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READING DAVID'S SMILING FACE, HE'S SEEMINGLY SAYING "SEE YEYE AND MUMU PEOPLE, MONKEY DEY WORK BABOON DEY CHOP. OBOI, WHO TALK AM SAY MAGA NO DEY PAY."


WELL DONE PASTOR. YOU HOP AROUND IN JETS, DUMBASSES CRUISE ABOUT IN JALOPPIES. IT'S THEIR CHOICE.
CultureRe: What Is So Special About D Gizzard Of The Chicken In Igbo Land. by EreluY(f): 5:43pm On Oct 21, 2012
[size=18pt]BEWARE OF VULTURES' GIZZARD.[/size]
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Nigerians Seek Spiritual Remedy To Most Of Their Problems? by EreluY(f): 5:17pm On Oct 21, 2012
[size=18pt]SPIRITUALITY AND RELIGIOSITY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT MANY, INCLUDING SOME EDUCATED FOLKS, TEND TO WRONGLY CONFLATE![/size]
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo's Winners' Chapel Accused Of Exploiting British Worshippers by EreluY(f): 5:02pm On Oct 21, 2012
ABAKA72: when I say waka pass I mean carry your matter go park somewere else. I don't join issues we people who do not believe in God. And FYI I also went to a seminary (st. Peter claver seminary Okpala near Owerri Imo state) you husband knows the school, so I understand the mindset of people like your husband, they live in denial and propound theories of non existance of the suprime being without any conclusive evidence to support such theory, all to justify leaving the priesthood, Was he forced to take the vow. Abeg make una go sidon jor.
YOU'RE SO DUMB AND CLUELESS. TO START WITH YOU WENT TO A SECONDARY SCHOOL, GLORIFIED BY NAME AS A SEMINARY. YOU WOULD NEVER, AFTER FINISHING THAT LEVEL OF EDUCATION, HAVE BEEN ORDAINED A PRIEST. BY THE WAY, HOW MANY CREDITS DID YOU GET AFTER CHEATING IN THE EXAMS - WHICH IS A COMMONPLACE EAST OF THE RIVER NIGER, AT LEAST WHEN I WAS THERE FOR MY NYSC. SECONDLY, MY HUSBAND IS NOT A NIGERIAN AND DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THE SCHOOL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. IN ANY CASE, YOU COME ACROSS AS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A PRODUCT OF AN EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM ACUTELY LACKING IN CRITICAL THINKING AND RATIONAL AUTONOMY, EXPLAINING WHY YOUR TYPE ENDS BEING CONNED AND DECEIVED. I HAVE NO TIME FOR YOUR SPECIE AND TYPOLOGY OF HUMAN BEINGS.
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo's Winners' Chapel Accused Of Exploiting British Worshippers by EreluY(f): 4:47pm On Oct 21, 2012
onatisi: ok ,we hear u.but can u give me one contradiction in the bible which u have seen
That would tantamount to the derailment of this excellent posting. Albeit, read the first creation account in Gen 1: 1-2:3 and the second creation account in Genesis 2:4-25. If you successfully identify the conflicting accounts in these pericopes, then get back to me and we may begin (on another thread, if not already discussed) a meaningful conversation.


yemhosky: Now we know the kind of people we are dealing with here......A professor of religion asking us to drop the Bible....They are always quick to judge and believe they know everything. Go ahead and tell us how Jesus and his disciples suffered and never had a house to himself and so we should also live on the streets and walk barefoot.
You’re still oblivious to the comparison between Oyedepo and Mother Theresa, aptly sought from you supporters of Oyedepo, by a respondent on this thread? By the way has Oyedepo any branches of his ministry in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Haiti, Somalia, Burundi, etc? Or, did your Jesus not say “go ye into all the world”?

The day Oyedepo and all these so called Nigerian MOGs abandon their ill-gotten wealth, take cues from and do what the Albanian Mother Theresa, the Englishmen - Thomas Burch Freeman and Henry Townsend as well as the Scotswoman, Mary Slessor did (these left behind EVERYTHING: riches, wealth, cosy homes and homeland to selflessly serve the poor and the sick, opened free mission schools to educate the uneducated), that day, they (Oyedepo et al) will demonstrate to the whole world the sincerity of their missions.
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo's Winners' Chapel Accused Of Exploiting British Worshippers by EreluY(f): 3:38pm On Oct 21, 2012
ABAKA72: You must be a bomb in bed to make a reverend father drop his cassock and renounce his vows...
THANKS FOR DISPLAYING YOUR IGNORANCE AND ON THAT BASIS DRAWING A WRONG CONCLUSION. THE HANDSOME INTELLIGENT MAN COULDN'T MAKE A SENSE OF RELIGION ANYMORE AND WE MET FIVE YEARS AFTER QUITTING THE SCAM CALLED RELIGION.
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo's Winners' Chapel Accused Of Exploiting British Worshippers by EreluY(f): 3:23pm On Oct 21, 2012
davidque007: Its a bit disturbing to hear ignorant people attack people or pastors based on d biased views of the press. All those who insult Bsp Oyedepo dnt knw him outside what d press or back-bitters publish. As a christian u'r meant to test ALL things and hold fast to what is TRUE.how many bothered to confirm 1thess 5:17. Have bn to d church to hear what he preaches and confirm for urself whether he speaks d truth or not. That happen to be someone dat helped my family after my father's passing IN 1987, he and d church(winners) wld help financially and otherwise, bhp once called my mum and gave her money to change all 4tyres of her rickety car. My roda went to d university tru winners scholarship and many more have gone tru dat means also. Once I dnt hv concrete proof of an accusation I keep shut and even if I hv proof I speak with discretion. if you aren't anybody nobody will speak of u. Confirm things b4 you speak from the depths of your folly ......selah
[size=18pt]It seems like Oyedepo now has a laptop crew on NL[/size]
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo's Winners' Chapel Accused Of Exploiting British Worshippers by EreluY(f): 3:09pm On Oct 21, 2012
ghettodreamz: The Bible teaches us that we cannot save ourselves. That God has to do all the work of salvation. There is no ritual, no person, no work of any kind or type except that done by the Lord Jesus at the cross that can save us all. Believing or having faith in the Lord Jesus as your savior is the “result of salvation not the cause of salvation.” Titus 2:11

Apparently, the redemptive work of the salvation of our souls he has perfected thousands years ago and it takes personal conviction of the Holy spirit for one to be saved. I pray that the eyes of your heart may be opened, enlightened by His spirit. May God through His saving grace, take away your stony heart and replace it with a heart of flesh and give you a new spirit for it is by His grace we're all saved. Ezekiel 36:26, Ephesians 2:8-9

Romans 3:23
John 3:16
Romans 6:23
John 3:17-18
Romans 5:8
John 1:12
John 5:24

FYI,your misconception about the BIBLE can be definitively answered and verified by examining the biblical texts in light of the external evidences that supports its claims.

2 Timothy 3:16-17

16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

In 2 Peter 1:20-21, Peter reminds the reader to “know this first of all, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, … but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.” The Bible itself tells us that it is God who is the author of His book.

May you experience His divine encounter that would transform the course of your life forever, amen... SHALLOM
YOU'VE MISSED THE POINT BY QUOTING PASSAGES FROM AN ACUTELY DOCTORED BOOK LARGELY CONTAINING MATERIALS FROM HEBREW FOLKLORE AND FILLED WITH ALL SORTS OF CONTRADICTIONS. FYI, I AM MARRIED TO AN EX-CATHOLIC PRIEST, CURRENTLY A PROFESSOR OF RELIGION, WHO CURRENTLY TEACHES RELIGION PHENOMENOLOGICALLY AND DEFINITELY NOT AS TRUTH (TEACHING THINGS YOUR WELL LETTERED PASTORS KNOW BUT WOULD NEVER DISCLOSE TO YOU LAYMEN FROM THE PULPITS)! IF YOU WANT TO ENGAGE WITH ME DROP THE BIBLE, THEN WE CAN ENGAGE IN A MORE INTELLIGENT DISCOURSE.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Nigerians Seek Spiritual Remedy To Most Of Their Problems? by EreluY(f): 2:47pm On Oct 21, 2012
Wendy80: My Dear, u don't blame Nigerians who seek spiritual remedy 2most of dia problems.......how do u xplain ds? A man went 4 interview passed the 1st stage,2nd stage and 3rd stage...was given an AP letter only 4him 2resume and was told they will get back 2him almost 2years now he never heard frm them. This has happened 2 ds same guy severally...and he has enviable certificate frm known sch abroad....
Or how do xplain A Lady who after marriage introduction, †ЂΞ suitor never comes back, she's counting 4suitors now
Or A woman who has been ill 4years and Doctors homee n abroad keep telling her Madam nothing is wrong with U,meanwhile she's dying gradually...
My dear sometime des more 2 what our physical eyes can seee
[b]These things happen. Is it news to you that private and governmental organisations make requisition for mobilisation fees (sometimes running into millions of pounds/dollars), pretentiously recruit people to do the jobs that was never to be, and once the mobilisation funds had been released and sadly subsequently shared, potential recruits never really commenced work and the projects never ever took off. In the case of marriage suitors disappearing after marriage introductions, go and read the stories of Bisi Ibidapo-Obe and you'll know how many suitors have dumped her - the most recent being Dino Melaye. When girls sleep around, opening their legs to every D1ck, Tom and Haryy, or when they're reputed for being serial abortionists, they'll be dumped time and time again. Guys definitely have their reasons for dumping girls even after going very far with them. Finally, while strange undiagnosable illnesses may not be a commonplace, they undoubtedly do exist. That these things happen doesn't mean we have to spiritualise them. What we need do is investigate deeply and critically reflect upon them and we'll not be far from solutions/answers.[/b]
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Nigerians Seek Spiritual Remedy To Most Of Their Problems? by EreluY(f): 1:30pm On Oct 21, 2012
First, the majority of Nigerians have been dogmatised and indoctrinated. Second, Nigerian educational system - from its inception to date does not promote critical thinking and rational autonomy. As such, rather than look at problems both critically and rationally, Nigerians typically blame the problems on spiritual attack, seek spiritual solutions which they often don't get.
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo's Winners' Chapel Accused Of Exploiting British Worshippers by EreluY(f):
redsun: I had it mind to get in touch with one of the big bus companies in england,that the poster of the man pasted on their bus in the name of advertisment is a chronic child abuser and molester.

To think that africans still fall prey to religious scam and exploitations in the societies,shows why they go home and still remain dumb,thieves and unproductive,irrespective of their education and experiences.

I dont know what happened to blackman,he is very much at home with delusions and fantasies.
A number of these gullible worshipers are delusional, seeking also miracles concerning their immigration, marital, financial, familial, medical and numerous other problems. "Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes". Religion, as Karl Marx argues, is in deed the opiate of the masses or the opium of the people. Keep taking it. But, do realise that like alcohol or drug, when these are consumed to make you feel better, the effects soon dissipate, and like the alcoholic you'll shortly realize the problems haven't disappeared. Seek rational and intelligent solutions to your problems rather than having a recourse to religions and pastors.
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo's Winners' Chapel Accused Of Exploiting British Worshippers by EreluY(f): 12:12pm On Oct 21, 2012
ghettodreamz: It really baffles me that some people are still living in the ignorant & pagan world at this age cry cry cry DO NOT BE DECEIVED 'HEAVEN' IS REAL & 'HELL' IS EQUALLY REAL.
There is surely a life after death, even the scientist and atheist are now giving their lives to God believing that there is GOD. Over the years, many people both young & old, women and men have had the privilege of not only seeing heaven & hell but experiencing it before their return back to the world. READ 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

If you don't believe there is God or Heaven, how then were you formed? If you says biologically, then I refer you back to the creation of the planet 'EARTH' Genesis 1

26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[b] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

DO NOT BE DECEIVED, HEAVEN IS REAL AND HELL IS SURE REAL AS WELL.
YOU STRUGGLED TO STRING SENTENCES TOGETHER AND STILL FAILED TO CONVINCINGLY MAKE ANY COHERENT POINT. USING THE BIBLE (A HEAVILY EDITED BOOK WHICH LARGELY NOT ONLY CONTAINS ANCIENT NEAR EASTERN MYTHOLOGIES BUT ALSO FILLED WITH ALL MANNERS OF CONTRADICTIONS) TO PROOF THERE IS GOD, HELL, HEAVEN AND LIFE AFTER DEATH IS AS GOOD AS PERPETUATING THOSE ANCIENT MYTHS AND UNVERIFIABLE PREPOSITIONS WHICH ALL RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ARE.
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo's Winners' Chapel Accused Of Exploiting British Worshippers by EreluY(f): 11:36am On Oct 21, 2012
Degis: Bishop David Olaniyi Oyedepo shall shine more and more unto the Perfect day...
[size=18pt]OF COURSE, YES, WITH THE HELP/AID OF MONEY/FUNDS DONATED BY GULLIBLE INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOURSELF.[/size]
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo's Winners' Chapel Accused Of Exploiting British Worshippers by EreluY(f): 11:16am On Oct 21, 2012
mckayne: Sunday services at Winners’ Chapel’s ‘London HQ’ in Dartford, Kent...attracts 1,000 congregants – chiefly African and Caribbean immigrants....
After centuries of being deceived into believing religious beliefs concocted from ancient Mesopotamian folktales, people of the Northern hemisphere - through the enlightenment - became liberated, culminating not only in the secularisation of Western societies, but also in the conversion of places of worship into disco halls, hotels, pubs, clubs, private flats, etc. I fervently hope this would someday happen to the people of the Southern Hemisphere.
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo's Winners' Chapel Accused Of Exploiting British Worshippers by EreluY(f): 11:13am On Oct 21, 2012
sindyko: Walahi, I will like to be a pastor it emanate all of lucrative. I will own my private jet like 10, fleet of cars, Mason, I like living like Oyedapo .
Go on, you'll have morons flocking after you and voluntarily but senselessly donating their hard earned money to fund your lavish lifestyle.

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