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@Joagbaje

Right, and we're all supposed to take your word for it abi? Big, bold claims and not a shred of evidence. Typical of a Christian büllshît artist. So pardon me for not believing you.

Keep telling lies and being a nuisance to the human race. Other than people like me, nobody is going to judge you.

Elemosho: it will interest you to read this post. Many people spread hoaxes out of pity and ignorance

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/silvester-stallone-surrenders-jesus.shtml

Or rather, religious people like to tell lies whenever they feel it will promote their faith.

In any case, I'm nit giving my life to Christ until Chuck Norris joins Deeper Life Bible Church.

Joagbaje: It's possible to tell them to stop if their healing is confirmed . There are people that have been prayed for and symptoms stopped and when they went for HIV test they tested negative , it will be wrong and unbelieving to continue such drugs . It can kill their faith

I'll give you $1billion if you can show me a single credible, verified case of someone being cured of HIV by prayers.

The two or so people that have ever been cured of HIV have all made international news and none of their cases ever involved pastors, prayers or any such thing. You Christians are just making up lies and fake miracles to deceive yourselves and others.

Your fraudulent teachings are getting innocent people killed. If you guys had any decency at all, you would stick to your prosperity scam and stop talking about serious public health issues like HIV.

eddiebruk: Change the Bible..? Nigga Plz

The bible bible as we know it today contains thousands of changes fro the oldest know copies. Most of these changes were accidental copying errors. Many others were deliberate.

And I'm not just talking about small changes either. For instance, the story about Jesus saving an adultress from being stoned to death was added to the new testament centuries after the gospels were written. In older manuscripts, it even appears in different places as if the copiers couldn't decide where to put the new story.

You Christians need to learn more about your own religion. Most of you guys are far too ignorant. Wikipedia is a good place to start.

[url]en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_history[/url]

eddiebruk: And now you would think you have said something meaningful, why don't you urge the whole christian community worldwide to re-write the Bible instead since you think Doctrines are like constitutions that can be altered at any time by Men.

eddiebruk: And now you would think you have said something meaningful, why don't you urge the whole christian community worldwide to re-write the Bible instead since you think Doctrines are like constitutions that can be altered at any time by Men.

Like the catholic church hasn't changed the bible before.

You know.nothing about your own religion.

Loveaflame: You are entitled to your opinions but reality stirs at us and that we can't deny.

And by "reality" you're referring to your invisible and undetectable demons and devils abi?

That word doesnt mean what you think it means.

Making flowery speeches and calling people as a publicity stunt one thing. Making real change is another. The pope has done nothing other than talk.

If he was to make real, official doctrinal changes to allow gays to be full members rather than lying about themselves or being shunned. While he's at it he could try abandoning the church's ridiculous anticontraception doctrine, their discrimination against women and their continuing cover-up of the worldwide child sëxual abuse scandal.

If he was to do even one of those, maybe I'd take him seriously.

@OP

We already know that smoking causes lung cancer emphysema, and all sorts of other horrible things. You don't have to make up stories as well. The truth is scary enough

These sort of bullshït stories aren't going to convince anyone not to smoke apart from credulous born again types who aren't likely to smoke anyway.

It's better to stick to the facts and leave the tales by moonlight stuff out.

He forgot to mention "become a Niger delta militant leader/Boko Haram mediator".

Paulkigame: This developement was brought about as a result of ommission of the House Officers and Interns(considered as temporary staff) on the newly introduce Intergrated Personnel & Payroll Information System ( IPPIS); a portal for payment of all federal civil servant. This scheme is expected to save the government monies paid to ghost workers previously. This scheme has so far proved to be problematic in most of the places it was introduced.

LUTH is also owing them salaries from before the IPPIS system was introduced. The FG took over payments 3 months ago and some of them haven't been paid for up to 6 months.

As an aside, when the FG started paying people directly, LUTH resident's salaries went up by over N20,000. Apparently LUTH had been stealing deducting money from people's salaries at source. Nobody is sure where the money has been going, but LUTH doctors have always earned less than their colleagues in other institutions.

Make of that what you will.

You can't prove that god exists. Better men than you have tried.

Just give up on convincing atheists. Instead, focus on indoctrinating small children and fooling the weak minded.

Those of us who have realised the truth can never go back to religion. What is seen cannot be unseen.

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Virus777: It's obvious that Nigerian christians are among the most zealous rëtårded christians in the world.

I noticed that you spelt the word rëtårded wrong. Don't worry, I fixed it for you.

elampiro: Evil will only have its hour but only briefly, then the King of Kings will come and vanquish all satanic influences and evil from the face of the earth.

These things are in the bible.

Your homophobic, misogynist, racist, mass murdering, genocidal, baby killing god is going to come and vanquish all evil from the earth? The only way that's possible is if he kills himself as well.

Caleboha: Mr Owele Rochas, I understand you have good intentions. Its ok to legalise abortion where the life of the mother is at stake as such its a life for a life. But legalising abortion for rrape cases, assaults... is tantamount to complete legalisation since any girl could claim she was rapedt by strangers and thus procure an abortion. Abortion is illegal, let's leave it at that. The doctors can take it up from there!

What type of crazy logic is this? So because some girls *might* lie to take advantage, you want to further destroy the lives of all girls who are unfortunate enough to not only get råped, but get pregnant as well?

Maybe they should ban the internet. Some people people might use it to post senseless statements.

mazaje: Yup, I have studied both. . .ID fails because of the many aberrations we see around, for every thing you claim was intelligently designed you will see an aberration. . .

There's also the problem of explaining where the intelligent designer came from. Who created the creator? And if the creator doesn't need a creator, why should everything else do?

Uyi Iredia: Ergo, atheist foundations in the US, who don't believe in the right to oppose gays, or 'discriminate' against them given one's morals, or have public prayer or mentions of God or the Christian faith especially, or rename Christmas to make it secular etc don't believe in equal rights they claim is behind theur actions. As usual, I expect this simple reasoning to be twisted, why not, if your ilk doesn't believe atheism is a belief. SMH.

Atheists foundations in the US don't oppose public prayer or the mention of God. They oppose the use of public institutions and public money to promote religion in violation of the US constitution. Everybody is free to practice their religion as they see fit as long as they don't violate the law or use public money to do it. Its mostly Christians that have secularized and commercialized Christmas, not atheists. And I don't see any atheist police forcing people to call it "Xmas" so I don't see how we're renamed it. You're still free to call it whatever you want.

Also, you seem to think people should have the right to discriminate against others based on their "morals". Please explain this. If your oyimbo boss told you mixing of races was against his morals (a very common sentiment 50 years ago) and sacked you from your job because of it, you'd think that was okay?

Ubenedictus: my dear, i would personally advocate equal right in my company and i believe the school would do the same, but in a religious school a pregnant unmarried lady will be fire the same for gay marriage.

Tranlation: My dear, I would personally advocate equal rights in my company and I believe the school would do the same, but in a religious school people who don't align with my narrow minded religious views should have no rights. Please ignore the first half of the previous sentence; I only said that to avoid looking like a fanatic and a bigot, which is exactly what I am.
- Ubenedictus

italo: ^^^

When you ask the opinion of a Catholic on a religious matter, your are essentially asking for the opinion of the Catholic Church.

There is no room for personal opinion except where the Church has no definitive teaching.

That is what it means when we say "I BELIEVE IN ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH" every Sunday.

If he had a differing opinion, he wouldnt be Catholic.

Translation: We Catholics are all sheep. The oddly dressed old guy in Italy tells us what to think, and we all obey like zombies.

If any one of us tries to use his own brain, he wouldn't be a true Catholic.

mazaje: I have told you that I don't believe in macro evolution. . .

There's no real difference between macro-evolution and micro-evolution. They are both the same continuous process. macro-evolution is just micro-evolution zoomed out (in the sense of time) so that the changes are more obvious.

Have a look at the Archaeopteryx and look at the similarities with both modern birds and dinosaurs, then come back and tell me you don't believe in evolution.

Ubenedictus: he has the right to marry who he wishes by law. The school has the right to proscribe the example they want to teach the students and the right to hire and fire. Afterall it is a religious school.

The day a catholic gets sacked for doing something perfectly legal that his employer opposes for religious reasons; you'll be singing a different tune. You are basically arguing in favour of religious discrimination in the workplace and you don't even know it. I guess you are incapable of thinking objectively without your religious sentiments clouding your judgement.

Let me paraphrase Noam Chomsky: If you don't believe in equal rights for people you despise, then you don't believe in equal rights at all.

elampiro: Why, are you a gay?

Do you realize that this man is the head of Anglican church worldwide? He is speaking against christianity.

Everybody who doesn't hate gays must be gay. Everybody who supports equal rights for midgets must be a midget. Senseless logic.

I agree with musKeeto. Fanatical Christianity is nearing its last bus stop in Europe. Maybe soon, it'll be gone from Africa as well. Then we can focus getting rid of the Islamic nutcases.

italo: So which experiment or test have you carried out personally that proves that you evolved from fish...

Or that you are even a fully evolved human?

Abi, like mazaje, you are waiting like sheep for someone with a microscope to write it in a science journal?

1. People didn't evolve from fish. You clearly don't have a clue about evolutionary theory says. The term "common ancestry" is simple enough for children to grasp, so I don't know what your problem is.
2. There is no such thing as fully evolved. You don't have a clue.

Its amazing how someone can come on the internet and start arguing without even a basic understanding of what he's arguing about. Well I'm not going to waste my time replying you again until you can demonstrate that you at least get the secondary school version of the theory.

Since I'm such a nice guy I'm even going to provide you with some links to a site that explains it with simple language and lots of colorful pictures so that even someone at your mental level can understand.

I'll keep monitoring your posts. Whenever you say something remotely sensible, I'll answer.

*Kails*:
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I believe in evolution because of textbooks and professors claiming it fact based on observations/biases by fellow human from back in the day. Esp. our own saint Charles Darwin a well known known racist.

1. Darwin wasn't a racist
2. There are many simple experiments that can be done to test and prove/disprove evolution. The only thing stopping you from becoming a scientist yourself is your lack of intelligence. People like us evaluate evidence for ourselves and where possible, run experiments. People like you believe whatever nonsense you read in a holy book hear from the pulpit are told.
3. You are a mørøn. Did I forget to mention that?

italo: You're no different. You say "(some) scientists tell me...:

Abeg, stop talking nonsense.

Just because you're not smart or knowledgeable enough to understand or test scientific theories, doesn't mean the rest of us aren't. Most scientific theories can be tested by simple experiments within the reach of smart secondary school students.

Even advanced particle physics can be tested and improved by anyone willing to learn maths and buy a pencil and paper. Atheists don't sit around waiting for someone in garish clothes and a silly hat to tell them what to think like you religious sheep. If you still don't understand that some people apply scepticism to everything they hear, then you have clearly learnt nothing from debating with atheists.

We are not like you. We do not think like you. Don't insult us by claiming otherwise.

solomon111: Actually you are the clown here.
Nigeria's problem are very foundational and anything except SNC will be akin to "patching up", which we've been doing for decades without much success.
If SNC means Nigeria divides,then that would be better instead of us continuing the deception of "one Nigeria".
Nigeria is not One,has never been One,and may never be One until a SNC is convened where pressing issues affecting Nigeria's unity will be addressed.
How can Nigeria move forward when there are no true patriots loyal to the Nigerian state?.
Any president that can successfully convene a fruitful SNC has gotten to the roots of Nigeria's problems.
Btw,the 1999 constitution is redundant and unprogressively useless.
We need to abolish it,and create a new constitution that corresponds with current realities.

The president's power derives from the constitution as "redundant and useless" as it is. He doesn't have the authority to convene the kind of sovereign conference that can bring real change. If he tries it, he'll be defeated by the national assembly or trounced at the courts. At best, what we'll get is another very expensive show like we had in 2005.

There are plenty of simple, straight-forward, achievable things Jonathan can do to solve or at least reduce the ethnic problems in Nigeria. Yet rather than doing any of them,he is promising us pies in the sky.

The sad thing is most of our people are so thick that they'll swallow the bait again and vote for the clown in 2015.

This Jonathan is a clown. He'll say anything if thinks it'll get him elected. Does he realize what such a conference means? It means we bypass the national assembly, possibly replace the constitution and get rid of his entire government. It could literally mean the break-up of Nigeria.

Meanwhile, there are so many things within his authority he can do solve Nigeria's ethnic divides and he has done none of them. Where is the law to ban the rampant discrimination on the basis of ethnicity and state of origin? Where is the law to allow people to become indegenes of a state when they've lived there for 5, 10, 20 years?

GEJ is an expert at making empty and impossible promises. But when it comes to real, practical change, he is completely useless.