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Born2conquer:
Most lawyers actually prefer sweet jobs, charge and bail and the rest.

Even though he’s the one in charge of the acquisition and the rest, I can boldly say I am the one handling 90% of it.

I suggested it since last year, not forthcoming.

Thanks for the contribution Chief

You may need someone who will pull all the stops to protect your interests.

You may pay more but it will be worth the cost.

If he your lawyer didn't ask for your permission to make you a parry aka joinder then he may not be doing all he can to protect you in this matter.

Those guys, I mean the family are being mischievous by a long shot.

InvertedHammer:
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Commissioner of Police and or DPO?
I don't know what country you live in definitely not Nigeria.
I read 911 and figured someone need to wake you up from your dream. There is no such thing immediate tactical response in Nigeria. What rickety vehicle will they use to get to the scene on time? Let's assume there will be petrol in the vehicle in the first place.
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For the majority of the population? Yes.

For that special breed that can and do pay to ensure they have security on speed dial and can afford to have one or the other arms of law enforcement stationed on their property permanently and even following them around, another set of rules apply.

I told you what is an open secret by the way. Though not everyone appreciates that that is how things work, nor does everyone agree that even though that is how things work, that is not how things are supposed to be done.

Born2conquer:
Good Morning to the Daddies and mummy in the house, i sincerely need your contribution on this, help me.

We got a land valued at around 70M to 100M last year may/june, CofO,survey and the rest showed that the land is legit but when we went to secure the land, we discovered that there's a serious litigation on the land.

Government claimed the lands in the area (prime location) from a family back in the 90s without compensating the family, only for the government to end up reselling such land to friends (private people) which we later got it from.

We've done a serious back and forth since last year and it's been hellish (Land wahala) and refund is no longer forthcoming because we sealed the deal already.

Now, the lawyer representing the family made a request yesterday that we should bring 10M  to offset the bills they've spent on the case and to settle the family members and that when the case finally fall in their favour, they will give us a preferential treatment (Maybe we will forgoo part of the land or we will rebuy the land)

NB: on all angles, it might take time but the case is in the family's favour just like the Magodo vs LASG recent case.

My Delima
We coughed out everything on this land and we've spent blood,sweet and resources on this case since last year, i have a feeling paying the money they demanded won't solve anything even if they should eventually win the case, i don they think am sinceeee.

I need help, two brains are better than one and i am sure intelligent contributions from you will be better than my limited understanding.

Thanks

What did your lawyer say about your being joined as in interested party in the case?

As opposed to your empowering another interested party to get a judgement that has no bearing on your claims to the land? And which judgement will be delivered without awareness that you have some interest in the said land?

That way the judge will make a pronouncement that covers your interests in the matter.

InvertedHammer:
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Waste of money.

Just set big antelope traps strategically and marked (so you know the exact locations to avoid stories that touch) outside your windows.

Then sit back and enjoy the show.

Of what use are the video cameras that will only show you how your house is burglarized? I prefer loss prevention.

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Had to respond to this again with a quote:

"New Internet-enabled provide not only recording of activities, but real-time monitoring.

And they do so using small, easily-hidden devices, which means four, five or six webcams can be positioned to give different views of the same area.

Dummy cameras disabled by burglars have no bearing on the live webcams still humming away. Internet-based surveillance gives owners an immediate view of what is happening outside and inside their homes.

Compared to alarm systems, webcams are the next-best thing to catching a burglar red-handed. Help is a quick 911 call away."

Ignore the 911 part but if you have arrangements with reputable security companies who have friends with law enforcement you are covered.

If you are rich enough, make friends with the Commissioner of Police in your State and put him on your p****** same for the DPO in your area.

That's what all the moneybags do and you are assured of quick response to your emergencies.

That's how we roll in Nigeria security wise.

InvertedHammer:
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The first step in fighting crime in Nigeria starts with steady electricity. A lot of innovations will come to mind

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Kiekie1 can get you Schneider Inverter 1.5KVa less than 100,000.00

Batteries depend on how much backup time you need. There are batteries between 100,000.00 and 200,000.00 for a start.

You don't even need to go solar.
You can go solar for full redundancy.

For less than 300,000.00 you can set up a primitive alternative power supply system, you can scale up depending on needs and budget.

You have raised a valid point nonetheless.

Recommendation of Vendor Withdrawn: https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/2854#111306936

InvertedHammer:
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Waste of money.

Just set big antelope traps strategically and marked (so you know the exact locations to avoid stories that touch) outside your windows.

Then sit back and enjoy the show.

Of what use are the video cameras that will only show you how your house is burglarized? I prefer loss prevention.

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Smiles

There are door and window sensors that automatically turn on video recording the moment the sensor is activated

Then following the activation the owner is informed via a mobile app

They can be programed to begin playing games with floodlights and audio alarms for the homeowner and even the theif to hear

Which thieves can successfully operate the moment they know that they have been noticed?

And noticed so loudly.

Combine this with notification of armed response and you are good to go.

My point is this, security is more than high walls and gates, nor is in burglary proofing windows.

True security is a layered approached and has several components that work in unison to protect whatever asset you wish to protect.

This is not wishful thinking, this technology already exists and is being used by real people

Thread has remained alive in January 2022.

I pray it stays that way throughout 2022.

Keep up the good work.

michlins:
motion detector and all these things are for a completed home. And such things need constant power to run effectively. Maybe you have it figured out

Agreed.

As a general rule, Nigerians build first, then consider security as an afterthought.

Understandable, because of the cost implication of building with security in mind from the get go.

My reason for sharing is that technology exists to make breaking into houses unpleasant if not almost impossible.

Remember, thieves don't like attention, thieves love quiet, thieves love darkness.

Do what you wish with the sentence above.

If items worth so much are in the building why not set up security arrangements be those technology or Human guards?

What's the value of the stolen property versus the monthly salary of the guard multiplied by how many months it takes to complete the building.

Wishing for the best is not a fail proof strategy.

Modified:

For example there is glass that resists shattering even when impacted. That itself can buy time and make the theif or theives uncomfortable, but how many people install it?

There is also a concept known as Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design (CPTED). How many home owners in Nigeria know this and practice it? It's one of the reasons why I opted for a see-through front fence and the eradication of any objects that can provide a hiding place for anyone in my compound.

EgunMogaji2:
You’re correct.

Motion detectors, alarm systems and intelligent video cameras that alert owner when object comes into view can address this.

EgunMogaji2:
My first born. Full ride at Stanford.

Definitely didn’t get the brains from me but like you said I slaved to provide the enabling environment.

Even though you like to play it low key.

"Your doings" continue to expose you lol.

Well done.

sonnie10:
Daddy’s girl got this in the mail last week.
All I said was, “you are truly dads girl,. No noise just “show your work.”
MSc. Computer Engineering loading.
Doings!

Maximum Respect.

While I haven't commented on this debate, I have been privileged to see both sides of the divide.

Sometimes one just needs to make a statement.

Some make it with their car, their house, their education, their mate or even their kids.

And that statement made after someone has written you off is known to shut down tongues and leave many bewildered.

At other times the joy of knowing that you have and can flaunt it if need be, even though you have chosen to be low key knows absolutely no bounds.

Once more congratulations.

mufutau55:
Imran, you have been scammed for real.
This is Wunmi aka @shopclue who has been duping people internationally and married to Carl Allen, a Black American and scammed him too.
You have enter one chance o. But you contact a Lawyer and get an injuction on that her house, or go to her project with Areaboys and remove the whole house roof including the wood.
Damn. I really feel bad for you. She is a serial scammer since 2013.

Hajji M.

I know not everyone likes this but if it the area boy thing is traced to him, his legal case will fail.

He applied self help instead of letting justice run its course.

He who comes to equity should come with clean hands.

In everything apply wisdom.

What makes his matter worse is that his grievance is now a matter of public knowledge as well as your recommendation.

money121:
Do you know Some Client are also scammer here on Nairaland
I fell for one last year her name are omowunmi omotayo allen
She's Still owning me Some of 2m+

I didn't know she was a fraudster not until today i came across a post on nairaland

https://www.nairaland.com/1173970/scam-alert-omowunmi-allen-pre-order


Since last yr all attempt to get my money void
So today when i went thru the name she use to send fund to me last


Attached is my last chat with her b4 she blocked me and Project of her Building at Ogombo Ajah

+1 (614) 556-8548 her whatsapp number

Please let be careful on this platform oo Incase anybody willing to Assist because she base in Texas

Failure to reply to a letter written to you demanding payment of money is an admission that you are owing him the amount contained in the letter.

Silence of a debtor to a letter of demand made by a creditor amounts to admission of the content of the letter.

This is called the principle of admission by conduct.

JOE IGA v. CHIEF AMAKIRI (1976) 11 SC 1.
FIRST CONTINENTAL PROPERTIES LTD v. DIVINE TRIOP LTD (2017) LPELR-42869(CA)

Note:
* A Letter of Demand can be by email.
* Always reply your letters, mails and messages

Go legal.

Get a lawyer.

sonnie10:
Right!
Its better appreciated from this view

Beautiful.

You have good taste.

Thanks to the inspiration for sharing.

sonnie10:
Inspired and motivated by spyder880

Fellow who know road!
To God be the glory

Congrats

Nice house.

That window design from the 7 room high roof is so uncommon I fell in love with it, I can see you too did.

Well done Sir

SmartMugu:
I cant tell much about Cybersecurity jobs from Nigeria because I dont live there and don't know much happening there after being here for almost two decades now, but I think there are strong possibilities, especially now that the world is dealing with covid-19 and everyone is working remotely.
If Indians living in India still get cybersecurity jobs with major firms in different parts of the world, then Nigerians in Nigeria should not be left out. Like I said, I had friends in Nigeria working in the IT space for firms all around the world, but not in the Cybersecurity line, but most of them have now left Nigeria.
Its ok, you can PM me.
Cheers

You can get cyber security jobs in Nigeria BUT except for a few sectors the spend on cyber security by companies is not that much.

There is a greater opportunity for cyber security money outside Nigeria.

There are also sectors that I prefer not to name that spend a lot on cyber security in name, but much of that money goes to godfather's and godmother's and not actual cyber security infrastructure....please read between the lines...some things are best left unsaid or spoken of in parables.

SmartMugu:
Sorry I had to turn down the request for PM. I prefer we all learn from.one another here. Plus, I've been burnt in the past by others via PMs.
Cheers.

You made a lot of sense in the part I deleted.

I'm curious though about the part I preserved.

Would you mind elaborating?

michlins:
as in eh. For the first time ever,a client from here had me prepare a contractual agreement between us before we proceed with his job. It was a new environment for me even though I learnt a thing or two about it

That's the proper thing.

God made contracts in the Bible with Noah, Abraham, the Israelites, David.

Abraham made a contract with Lot to prevent conflict between him and Lot.

Please make that your standard operating practice going forward.

It will set you apart.

Suggest it to the client, don't wait for them to do so.

IDnoble80:
You just open your mouth waaaaaa… can’t you read? Do you know how many people he has caused pain? Why don’t u give your project to handle and let’s see how it goes….

So you are now blaming the QS shame on you sir…

Remembered they asked him to come to site and evaluate what he has done did he show up?

The law is not decided on emotions.

The law is decided on raw cold facts and the law that applies to those raw cold facts.

You are free to express your emotions, but in the places that matter, the weight you apply to them might not be the weight the law applies to them.

This is my last comment on this matter.

MODIFICATIONS:


Turning law on its head?

“Any person who by any false pretence, and with intent to defraud, obtains from any other person anything capable of being stolen, or induces any other person to deliver to any person anything capable of being stolen, is guilty of a felony, and is liable to imprisonment for three years.”

To succeed you will need to establish:
1. false pretence - state of mind is hard to prove
2. intent to defraud - state of mind is hard to prove
3. obtain anything capable of being stolen - this is the easy part (the action)
4. induce any person to deliver anything capable of being stolen - state of mind is hard to prove

If you fail at anyone, your case falls flat.

Which would you rather proof? the easy one or the hard one?

And don't forget everyone is entitled to constitutional protections.

somehow:
So if I had not terminated the contract, I still would have been chasing shadows by now since my money with him is still pending because he spent it already.

What do you call a situation whereby money paid to get materials for the completion of a project gets spent/diverted for personal use : Civil or criminal?

I understand, its not your sweat, so you can type away.

It is not about sweat or no sweat. I am not happy with the outcome you have suffered. I have severally asked him to refund you in good faith. But it is not about what we wish, the law is very clear, if payment is made for a contract and the contract is not performed, then there is a breach of contract. Breach of contract lawyers are taught in law school is a civil wrong and not a criminal wrong.

If you allege crime, you need to proof that his action was criminal and his intention was criminal, you need to specify which aspect of criminal law he breached. if you cannot prove all three your case will fail. It is far easier to prove breach of contract and claim damages.


I am sure you have a lawyer, run the above by him.

You have a lesser hurdle to pass to prove that you suffered a breach of contract than to prove that he intended to and actually committed a crime against you.

In any case if you go the criminal route, rarely will restitution be ordered, it is between the state and him and if you were to win, criminal penalties await. With a civil case, restitution will be ordered.

Is it not restitution that you want?

I want you to be properly advised, that is all.

emmyN:
Please do all you can to refund the amount you agreed to as soon as possible. Saying you have no money now is not tenable.

I've followed up with this issue closely, accessed objectively, and[b] haven't found you guilty of fraud, YET. The 'yet' is subject to your commitment to refund somehow his money as soon as possible.[/b]

There is a bandwagon effect on this thread. I've noticed the people brandishing the words 'fraud' and 'scam' about are the same old people, their loyalists, and those who can't think for themselves.

This fall-out has been blown momentously out of proportion and you n3xt share a part in the blame for failing to nip the situation in the bud when you could.

I won't fail to note my perception of what the QS' role is in all these. He has chosen mostly to play the silent card, a wise tactic when your decision is being called to question. To me, he created bad blood where there was none, and heightened fears where they should have been assuaged.

P.S: I've seen all the threads created about brabus, read every one of them, and do acknowledge he has erred in the past.

May God bless your objectivity.

N3xt needs lot of lessons in human relations.

The QS mishandled this situation. He bears much of the blame for this outcome but is not man enough to come out and defend his actions in the open.

I repeat he been unable to defend his professional decisions when called to account publicly.

N3xt stop talking, refund this guy, I like you but I don't like how you have handled this.

Silence can sometimes be golden.

You decided to speak carelessly about your clients and raised a mob against you. What you asked for you got.

There is a big difference between what constitutes a crime in the eyes of the law and what ordinary men consider to be crime.

If N3xt is guilty of anything, it is a civil wrong and not a crime, I speak for the current issue with the client and not for the past of which I have not had the time to review.

It would also be the course of wisdom to suspend any and all posts on nairaland until you sort out this mess, which is very bad for you brand.

You need to formally apologize to your client and to the community for how you handled this. If you had been humble, this matter would have been treated differently, you tried to play arrogant.

Arrogance is never right, but if the arrogance was followed by an instant or immediate refund, it would have been excused.

Now you are a haughty guy who cannot even produce 1m on demand, how does that sound?

KolaShangOne:
If you have a LandCrusier Prado and a Toyota Hilux or rent one (2014 model upwards)..

Clean shave if you have beards. Go with 4 to 5 military guys..

Go to the Head Omonile house. Let the soldiers open door for you and salute you.

Give them 200k for bitter kola.. Give the soldiers 25k each..

Problem over.

Want to drive our highways with minimal issues, use the same type of sense

Where A's rights begin, B's ends.

If you have anything to say please feel free to say it.

Freedom of speech goes both ways.

Absolutely no one has a right to stifle your speech on this platform.

Even if others don't like what you say. Or prefer you said something else.

You can say anything on any topic whatever

n3xt:
Conflicts are inevitable part of our daily living. They do not need to ruin or redefine our relationship with people. They just need to be addressed and resolved rather than allowing our frustrations to build up because issues are not maturely addressed.

I’m not here to discuss who was right or wrong. Who ought to call or not. We just need to move forward.



I understand this hence the reason I didn’t bother to ring you the 3rd time. I could have called earlier but I was on my way traveling that night.

I could have done 1st and 2nd Jan but I know those are days we would be busy with our families and loved ones.



If you ask me as a neutral person, what’s the best way to deal with the issues at hand? I’d say “Have a conversation (one-on-one) with the other person involved.”

Unfortunately my Whatsapp messenger app has been acting funny lately and your request to me was to do a voice note which shows to me you might be busy or not ready for an open discussion.



Avoiding open discussion is not only dysfunctional. It is counterproductive.

When we refuse to communicate, simple misunderstandings often degenerate into long-term and systemic challenges like we are right now....

...speak with the QS
...speak with Mr Fortune
...explain to nairaland


To make things clear, I don’t do “we” against “them” and I don’t assume other people’s position. When issues arise, I deal with them.

Show good faith with a partial refund for a start.

As an aside from purely property matters, and in the light of the undercurrents, and some of the thank you posts here in the last days of 2021 and the early days of 2022, I thought it wise to make the statement below.

In 2019, Bernardine Evaristo won the Booker Prize for Girl, Woman, Other category alongside Margaret Atwood. I watched a BBC program that rehashed that story a few hours ago.

Somethings stood out.

President Obama said that one of the books he uses as an escape from the pressures of the presidency was Bernardine Evaristo's book. Imagine the President of the most powerful country recommending your book.

Bernardine Evaristo has returned the favor she has been granted by been digging up authors who she felt were overlooked and trying to spotlight them and because a Booker Prize winner is the one making the recommendation people were taking notice.

The authors she recommended were extremely grateful that someone of her stature propped them up.

The point is this, if you are a vendor on these streets, be careful what fights you get into, some fights are not worth it. Don't bite your nose to spite your face.

Pick your fights carefully.

Be willing to lose money to make more money in the future.

Be willing to create, sustain and maintain goodwill.

A word, a note, a recommendation can land you a million naira or dollar deal even a billion-dollar deal.

A word, a note, a caution can also deny you a million naira or dollar deal even a billion-dollar deal.

Sometimes you need someone up there to open doors that would otherwise remain closed.

Don't allow people who would otherwise open doors for you to actively force doors that would otherwise be opened to remain closed.

Relationships are the most valuable resource for success.

I do contracts and all of my biggest contracts came to me when someone above my pay stamped his/her foot down and said give this guy this deal.

If people don't like you, they will not deal.

Don't give people a reason not to like you, and then not deal with you and encourage/goad/persuade others not to deal with you.

A word is enough for the wise.

What brands of split unit do you have rated at 2hp? Can you also post pictures?

gbadexy:
There is no doubting this is the best approach I have come across. I don't know about cement mix but since the outcome is like concrete, it won't allow capillary action of water.
The effective approach are densifying the concrete or plaster with chemicals that is absorbed to fill in the pores within and prevent water movement and using mineral paint that allows unrestricted evaporation of the water through the paint surface without peeling.
The first approach gives similar effect to your approach.

I appreciate the compliments.

I have to share since I have also learned a lot from those who shared their experiences.

diordaves:
Speaking from a "practical point of view", you are still not getting the point or not accepting the points being raised. Nobody is saying that a non German floor house will collapse. That is not the point. The point is the associated health risk a non German floor house brings regarding a damp home. Not all homes will be damp but all damp homes are without DPC. This is not rocket science.

All those houses you are saying did not collapse, if only you know what some are suffering with regards to damp.

Think about it this way: at the end of the day you are going to spend millions completing your project. So what's the point of spending all that million and still end up possibly with a damp home? Make no sense to me really.

https://www.nairaland.com/3304574/permanet-solution-rising-damp

Take a look at the attached pictures and the above thread and ask yourself if you need this stress after spending millions to complete your house.

My blood relation suffered heavily from asthma because of this. Hence the investments I made to fight it as outlined above.

Sadly, very few commercial build to rent properties build with a proper DPC and oversite concrete

Beframia:
Yes, it's not a dedicated thread to that particular build but the pictures he attached explained the process.

Will go through everything from page 1 for context

folmus:
You have to scroll down the page

Thanks

princenomics:
Please can you throw more light on this " water - proof cement mix"
Regards

The first time I fought damp walls, I took down the old plaster from the floor to the midway point between the floor and the ceiling in all the rooms of the house. Then personally supervised a cement mix in the following formula

1 part cement to 3 parts stone dust to 2 parts sharp sand and 1 part plaster sand.

Five years later there is no evidence that the house was not properly built, the paint no longer pealed, and anyone workman who has worked on that part of the house said, the plasterwork is like concrete.

I also added a water proofing powder whose name I cannot remember since it is more than 5 years ago.

By the way this was internal not external walls.

I must admit the walls were not smooth. But screeding or another layer of plaster with a different mix can easily resolve that. I later screeded it to make them smooth.

Beframia:
Rather than not doing German flooring at all especially on perceived stable and hard soils, I'll suggest the method adopted by muyi002 in attached link, it's a cost-saving alternative that can mitigate against the damp wall issue due to capillary action of water.

https://www.nairaland.com/muyi002/posts/7

Thanks for the post.

Did you link to the proper post?

Checked, can't see anything about oversite concrete/German floor.

Please reconfirm