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Patiencemom:
I don't think Texas is the best option anymore. Look at the past 30 pages of this thread and see that a lot of people going to Texas are getting denied. It's not a coincidence that the last question she asked was about state before denial

I think mothers should try different states: Oklahoma, Louisiana, Florida, New Hampshire etc

BOmum:
So I just finished my 221g interview with a rejection..Lady we got was very mean though.
Vo: Are you guys married
Me: yes( i came with hubby and son)
Vo: is this your only child
Me:No we have a daughter too
Vo: Where was she born
Me: America
Vo: When
Me: September 2017
Vo: Can i see your receipts
Me: Hands over receipt
Vo: How much did you pay while looking through
Me: Over 6000
Vo: I mean for just Hospital only
Me: 2200
Vo: But on the receipt i say bill of 15k but you paid 2200 even though hospital said paid in full
Me: I paid what the hospital quoted in full.The 2200 excludes payment for doctor, peds, patho etc and I didnt use anu government funds as stated in the hospital letter addressed to the embassy(She cuts in and says thats okay please)
Types for a while and hands us a yellow paper saying you will know why you dont qualify as stated in the paper

I used Houston North West Medical centre

To appeal to the V.O now, your hospital only fee( excluding doc fee) should be around 12-15k dollar. May God help our mothers.

aye88:
Bank statement. Both domiciliary and naira acct.
Letter of employemnt for both hubby and i.
Leave letter from my employer
Documents of our landed properties
Pension certificate
Budget sheet. ( our budget sheet showed we were only going to spend half of the total amount we had in our account. )
Flight booking
Hotel booking
Marriage certificate
Itinerary of places hubby will visit
Hospital correspondence
A detailed LOE stating my name, what i do and where i work, purpose of visit, amount made available for the trip, details of hospital and doctor i will be using. Details of how long the three of us intend to stay.

I also wrote a detailed letter addressing the prior refusal.

I think this is about all. Generally, i feel if you will be declaring your intention for childbirth, they want to know you have the finance to cover the cost and any contigencies and they also want to see the plans you have made regarding hospital and doctor who you will be using in canada and the cost.

NB, the embassy later sent a request letter to include a proof of medical insurance to cover my stay in Canada

How did you get doctor's correspondence pls?

mooreengineers:
And why is their rate cheaper against what the embassy want to see? Just being inquisitive though.
I just checked and it's very cheap to believe.

However, will the hospital agree to increase the bill if requested and what amount is advisable to be quoted?

Kindly read the messages above your comment.

Someone shared this link which might help you in the fee to look out for. https://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-have-a-baby-2018-4

mooreengineers:
Is it necessary for example to tell the VO during interview that we are flying to Texas first, and we'll later move to Minnesota because that's where our delivery hospital and Doctor are with proof/evidence of Doctor's note?

I'll appreciate your advises.

Thats not necessary as you won't be asked about your flying . However, it depends on the poe. You may need to answer related question.


And you don't need to bold your messages. Rules 11 NL. you may be banned

nimcote:
Goodmorning everyone, pls I have a question. I have seen on this thread that there are some red flag hospitals/Drs or states. Pls can I use doctores/El-Paso? Plus does any one know any good affordable hopital/ doctor I can use in Dallas, Newyork or LA? I am a first time mom and would really appreciate all the help I can get.

Not a redflag. However, you may need to request higher package as their package is now cheaper and small with what embassy want to see.

Nersh:
This is correct. My stamp at poe said b2.

You've not given us the POE transcripts.

nimcote:
I hear you but you need to understand , B1/B2 are conjoined. I had a B1/B2 VISA, was stamped in with the B2 STAMP at POE and was give 6months stay. But this was a in 2015....

You will see I didn't dispute the conjoin theory. Thats what they all carry. However, you specified the type you needed in your Ds160.

nimcote:
abujaniv:
Hello. We don’t normally post in this thread, but it seemed worthwhile to drop in and correct some misconceptions. We say this a lot, but it bears repeating: Birth tourism is legal in the US provided the applicant is open about their intention and pays the medical expenses in full. This means that the applicant should declare any such intention they have at the Embassy/Consulate and again at the port of entry. 

If it happens that the applicant gets pregnant well after the initial visa interview, they will have the opportunity to make their intention, medical preparations and financial resources known at the POE. However, it will remain up to Customs and Border Patrol whether to allow that applicant into the country. Some are not, and they are put on the next flight home. This must be extremely uncomfortable for a heavily pregnant person, to spend 15-20 hours on a flight to America, several more hours being questioned, then another 15-20 hours on a plane home. This is what we want to avoid.

Onto some other misconceptions:
The concept of the “change of intent” letter is not valid. These e-mails are not read nor correlated with the applicant’s file. Some people who send such letters may get a form letter in response, but it is informational in nature and in no way confers permission to amend the declared purpose of travel. What matters is what you declare at the Embassy/Consulate and at the POE. After the fact e-mails do not carry any weight.

Some applicants say, “I applied for only the B2 visa to declare my medical intent.” The B1/B2 visa categories are conjoined, so applying for only one does not make any difference. Other applicants say, “I appeared at the window with a big belly,” as if this alone is enough to declare their medical intent. Again, the responsibility is on the applicant to be honest about what they plan to do in the US.

Other considerations:
Medical care is expensive in the US, and costs can escalate dramatically if there are complications. 
Credibility is paramount in the US visa process. If visa officers detect any deception or obfuscation, no amount of excuses, documents or receipts will make up for the loss of credibility.

That bolded is extremely important. Study it well.

nimcote:
But B1/B2 are conjoined Visa, is there anyone here going to the US to give birth that has just B2 Visa

I want to believe you quite understand what I meant. On your ds 160, you specifically stated whether b1 or b2. If You have a visa that states b1/b2 as expected, when you get to the POE, the CBP officer will stamp the kind of visa whether B1 or B2 when you are accepted. That will not give you unnecessary panic or fear as your ds 160 that the CBP officer has access to will state the purpose of your visit. You have said you are going for conference and you are granted the visa for that purpose. But you show up again with a different purpose that your B1 doesn't cover. B1 doesn't cover any medical in whatever form. Yes they are conjoined but your application specifically states which you apply for.

Things have changed quickly from 2017 and 2019. So better to do the right than travels thousand of miles and be sent back home. The trauma can be traumatic . I am talking from my experience. My colleague was sent back home. Again, when I was stamped in March 2019, the stamp states B1 as thats what I applied for. Ask anybody who travelled recently, the stamp has the class of visa. So thread gently.

kuljiyke:
I will love to visit the UK, currently I don't have a job I was stopped 3months ago but I can sponsor myself I have 600k+ in my account what is my chances of getting a UK Visa

Very slim.

chloe00:
It became a trend and they all followed it now see what happened. I hope people learn from the cancelled visa lady and I hope she gets the visa again.
People need to understand that whether or not a change of intent letter is sent admission into the USA is at the discretion of the cbp Officer

Equally need to understand visas should be used for the purpose they were granted for.

FADEO:
Please can i get a sample of letter of change of intent. Asking for a friend.. she has used the visa twice for vacation before now (October 2018 and January 2019). Now she want to use the same Visa for child birth and she also want to write to the embassy before she go ahead. Please kindly help with sample of the change of intent letter.
Also any recommendation on any nice hospital in California (Somewhere around hawthorne).

Thanks all.

That era might be over. kindly advise your friend to apply for B2 to avoid stories that touch.

BOmum:
Please anyone with hospital and doctor contact in California should help me o..Tried doing a DIY but these are the kind of quotes i am getting o

The embassy will be extremely elated with this type of quote

seyewest:
I believe it's actually @kelEmi in need of help not any friend but all the same they should follow your advice.

Loz

Ebalu953:
Pls can someone help? My friend filled his ds160 form without uploading a picture and he has already booked appointment. Is it OK for him to go to the embassy like that with 2passport photographs? Or he needs to upload the picture and how would he go about it without paying another visa fees?

Your friend must upload his passport otherwise he will be sent back. Tell him to upload before he submits the form. He doesn't need to pay another fee.

mrprolifik:
FOLMUS DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME. I DIDN'T SAT HE OR SHE CAN'T APPLY FROM WHEREVER HE OR SHE IS LIVING AT THE MOMENT EITHER TEMPORARILY OR PERMANENTLY . I WAS ONLY TRYING TO PASS A MESSAGE TO THE ORIGINAL POSTER BECAUSE HE ASKED ABOUT RESIDENCE PERMIT AND WANTED TO KNOW IF TO SELECT PERMANENT RESIDENT BASED ON HIS OR HER QUESTION. .
HERE IS A LINK FROM WIKIPEDIA THAT TALKS ABOUT THIS MORE. WE ARE ALL HERE TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT. I AM JUST GIVING THE ORIGINAL POSTER AN ANSWER BASED ON MY OWN UNDERSTANDING OF HIS OR HER QUESTION.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residence_permit
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-UK-residence-permit-and-an-indefinite-card

Sure! I quite understand your message. Since we don't know his country of residence, we may have this divergent opinions. However, 3 years is not a temporary residency. If he has a resident card, he is a permanent resident of the country. He is different from a tourist who can't enjoy enjoy what he can enjoy. We are all here to learn. someone wrote the content on wikipedia and quora based on what he or she knows. I am telling you too what I know. Cheers!

[quote author=mrprolifik post=77695777][/quote]He can tell where is applying for. If he has a card, he is a permanent resident even if it's two years. If he is not a resident, he can't apply from the country. He must go to his country of birth.

saintobi009:
Guys please when filling the DS-160 they asked if I am a permanent residence of any country , What is I have a residence permit but not permanent residence, what do I fill ? the permit is for 3 years , Please is it the same or I fill No.

YES, you are a permanent resident in the country as long as you have the resident card. Choose Yes, and put the country name.

Ahmadrc:
hello house
did anyone here have short term visa like 3 months as that is what happened today with my wife
we went to renew our visa and VO checked everything and our previous payment and she said after all regular question and regular answer now we will give you short term visa for 3 months starting form proposed traveling date coming September
need advice please (my wife not pregnant now - previous visa for her 2 years for me 5 years )
thanks to you all

I have seen it before. Yes! Possible. Since the 3 months start from the proposed date. No cause to panic!

Mrskay2017:
Sometimes you really don't have to answer, i'm not your problem, i wasn't asking you, sometimes tgat hospital will give you the merry go round, and other times, you need to call a particular person to attend to you, so please pack well and face your issue here

I only offer a solution as you continue to spam the thread. Sorry o. No vex.

Japsylee:
Thank you for your response. Please what documents should she go with if we are called after writing to inform them.
Also I was thinking of just going through Houston poe and having at least 20k dollars between me and my wife and also having a card with money as well plus a letter from a hospital and also pay ments of maybe 2k advance to the doctor and a letter from the hospital expecting me?
Also what's the worst case scenario?
Please advice? Thanks A lot

Go with every documents that explain your intention to give birth and you can afford the medical expenses. Paying in advance does not give any assurance if you didn't declare intention of birthing when the visa was issued. You might be lucky but POEs aren't smiling. To avoid trauma for a pregnant woman, please do the needy. Read some pages for what others took with them.

Good luck!

Mrskay2017:
Please ,I had my two kids in this hospital, and I want to refuse, and I think this letter will be useful to my renewal, please who can I call to get the letter, thank you

If you remember where you had your babies, contact them.

Titok207:
Apparently, I had the initial quote from henrico doctors hospital and had all my prenatal test done there. I then read drafricana’s post about henrico and visa renewal. At the POE, I was sent to secondary inspection. The IO that attended to me asked what hospital I wanted to use, gave him the henrico doctors hospital result and all. He then ask if that is the main hospital I wanted to use, I then mentioned to him I had changed my mind and showed him Dr Moore’s letter and all that I am aware of the insurance more reason I had to change my hospital. He replied saying; if you had told me you wanted to use this hospital, I would have send you back to Nigeria because they claim self pay whereas they use insurance and taxpayers money.
So, Mothers if possible kindly avoid hospitals with self pay price or rediculous bills. He accepted the Maryland own and stamped me in. I then asked if I wouldn’t have issue with the hospital, he said provided I pay all my bills.

Thanks for the details. Safe delivery!!

Titok207:
@drafrican, thanks a lot for your help and advice... your advice saved me at point of entry. Mothers in Virginia if possible kindly don’t accept the self pay price. The immigration officer specifically told me if I had said I was going to use henricos doctors hospital, he was going to send me back to Nigeria because they use insurance.
Thanks once again @drafrican.

Can you elaborate more on this for the sake of others?

Japsylee:
I am so happy and elated for you. Please house I have a different problem. We were issued a U.S visa sometime March last year and I have visited twice while my wife was yet to use her own. She was asked wether she was pregnant last year and she said no she was not. She is now pregnant and wants to give birth in the U.s.
I am in a fix as regarding if we should write to the embassy to inform them of our plab or just travel cos we have bought our ticket already?
Please help a brother

Thats where you would have solved all the current dilemma. "She is not pregnant now but we would like to have have baby in the US when she is pregnant in future." The V.O asked you to avoid the current problem. The POE is not smiling now. Am not discouraging you but not having a B2 for birthing might be huddle. Let them know now. If you are invited, go with your proofs.

Nikkles01:
Hello everyone, here’s my story

My husband and I moved to the US in 2016 on the L1/L2 visa. In the course of our stay we started an IVF procedure that was mostly funded by insurance. Barely 2 years after our stay, we relocated back to Nigeria. So I went back to the US to have our baby (visa was still valid) but we had lost our insurance so I was a cash patient. My zero balance statement shows I had a bill of $56k and only paid $6,400.

Upon applying for a B1/B2 visa to go back for another IVF for baby number 2 ( I have frozen embryos in their clinic) the VO only pointed out how I paid almost nothing for my baby’s delivery. However, the contract I signed with the hospital clearly stated the amount I paid as being flat and had no discount. Also, I signed a financial Assistance Form which stated that I was offered financial assistance but I didn’t wish to qualify.

I have contacted the hospital where I had baby number 1 but they are insisting that their legal department cannot issue a letter stating that I did not seek or get any financial assistance.

We want to reapply, we just don’t know how to tell the story differently.

The story can't be told differently. Just pray you meet a V.O willing to listen to your explanation. They have your records which telling a different stories can be interpreted as misrepresentation.

chikos:
Please can anyone tell me the baggage allowance for delta airlines for adult and infant.

Just google it. You will see it on their websiite

Babs612000:
Thanks for the compliments.
Try and sort out things with the estate people.
Most estates communities do collect some money when building start.
Where is this your project?

It's in Agbowa (Lagos) o. This is not a case of money o. The land is agriculture and can only be regularized for that purpose according to Lagos state min of lands.

abeke123:
Hi

Thank you for this. I searched @Leezee and budget sheets and didn't see anything . I will appreciate if you point me in the right link. Thank you

Sorry Leez29.

Below is the link to sample budget sheet. Scroll down the page.

https://www.nairaland.com/leez29/posts

abeke123:
Hello house,

I am about to attend my Interview with my husband next week and I would like some advise from the house.

This is our first child and my first attempt to travel.

We got a Doctor in texas that billed us about $6k plus and sent us a letter to present at the embassy. My husband has an uncle over there in texas who will assist with accommodation. his statements ready over N8Millin and I just want to make sure everything from our end is ready before we attend the interview.

Does anyone have any sample excel sheet of costing for the baby? I heard that would be needed at the embassy too.

If anyone wouldn't mind giving me some tips. Thank you

For both of you and medical expenses, your balance can be better. You can type budgets sheets at the search button or go back some pages or search @Leezee for sample. I wish you good luck.

dere5:
Pls house, I'm having difficulty uploading my photograph to the DS160 form. Can the Form be submitted without uploading passport photo? You could do this in the past, but I dont know if this is still possible.

Change the pixel to 600 by 600. that will make your life easy. It's a must to upload. You will be turned back with no uploaded passport.