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Logicboy03: No, you are a deist that wants to roll with the cool atheist kids....

Deist? Someone called me theist, another called me pagan....alien called me pantheist. Which one will I follow?

Someone wants to redefine atheism.

I always bash you with 'concept of God you disbelief'.....dont press my button.

Why do you think women are most numbered in miracle centers and churches?

Fear hold women easily.

Obadiah propagate fear from ww3 to nuke....even if his prophesy failed.

Where gullible minds are, fear monger rule

Ijele-igbo:
The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom

God is fear right?

donroxy: hate ? ... No

I destate Myopia !!!

You misunderstood him at a point. Why cant you bridge that up.

We cant agree on everything you know? But we should be ready to clarify our stances and agree at other end.

donroxy: Yes,LogicBoy and his crew are .... !!!


The crew are even better than LogicBoy who is more hissshhh!!!

lol....why hating logicboy?

joel lala: I will repost on of my reply that i posted in this thread again for you to see.

@Logiboy and ooman,

I got this info from the same link you posted about the Pirahã people, see below:

However, they do believe in spirits that can sometimes take on the shape of things in the environment. These spirits can be jaguars, trees, or other visible, tangible things including people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirah%C3%A3_people



Now, do Atheist believe in God, god, spirits, ghosts, Karma etc?

The answer is NO...Atheism by strict definition is the lack of a belief in gods, but it's generally extended to the lack of a belief in any supernatural entity or substance. That includes ghosts, spirits, souls, angels, demons, vampires, elves, bogeymen, unicorns, phoenixes and the energies of karma, chi, the Holy Spirit, life-force or The Force...

http://asktheatheist.rationalresponders.com/question/do_atheists_believe_in_ghosts_or_spirits


You guys believe strongly in evolution, but we all know that Charles Darwin (WHITE MAN) was the first person to formulate a scientific argument for the theory of evolution by means of natural selection.

If you accept evolution definitely you also are ensnared by the same white masters that you have accused several religious people of..

Well we are really different pls.

I dont believe in Anthropomorphic concept of God......I dont have a problem if God is universe or energy.

I believe in spirituality and spirits (spirit is force to me).......no demon or monsters attached

Have you seen me arguing evolution? Nope....I value experience than books composed of people's mind.

You could be right if your post was directed to 'nairaland atheist'.


Im a spiritual atheist.

Why is pregnancy thread making front page today?

Im suspecting ASUU

The law is blind.

Law doesn't care if it Jesus house, it must be demolished

Lilimax: So nice and with good shape .
I tried doing this during my last pregnacy but I suddenly became uninterested

Get pregnant again na.

Keep trying till you succeed

joel lala: If it was a christain that said the bolded now, you will accuse him of so many things, meanwhile you are not innocent of the offense....weldone

Replica..... If you had never insult pagan, it doesnt involve you.

macof: I've never said pagan supreme God is all loving. No pagan religion attributes ultimate purity, holiness and righteous to their supreme God or gods. God is the source of everything, good and evil. that's why it's important to keep a balance

He cant really understand you man.

Good job

Good job Ooman. Im really enjoying sidewatch...

Erm I think before this Energy consciousness can be finalise.....you guys should try to define consciousness, self-conscious and sub-conscious.

I think you guys are missing things up.

Jesus killed the second time.

When will African stop following this roman created fiction?

Kolo mentality

Christianity is a reformed pagan religion.

And those dumb christian have the gut to insult pagan.

okeyxyz: Chaii!! Bros you completely missed it. You are expressing an emotional appreciation for quantities, for numbers, for sizes, when they seem extreme or impressive. This is like a person's reaction when he enters an elevator and is taken up to the top of a sky scrapper for the first time in his life. He is impressed by the feat man has attained with building structures, impressed with man's creativity and genius. The word hear is impressed, not awe and therefore this is not a spiritual experience. You get a spiritual experience or awe(or as yoruba's put it: iyanu ) at phenomena that are beyond your literal/empirical comprehension. It is not enough, what you have written above, to express wonder at things that are clearly understood and surmounted by man.

FOLYKAZE: I dont know if we have same view on spirituality. Spirituality doesn't refer to spirits in the sense that you're referring to. It's the ability to wonder, to marvel, at actual facts and reality as revealed by modern science. I define my spirituality as the exploration and appreciation of the fundamental underlying nature of reality and the way in which we are all connected in the part of existence that goes beyond our normal perception. Ergo:
The feeling you get when you look up to a clear sky at night and realise that those points of light you're looking at are how they appeared many years ago.
The astonishment you get when you consider the immense variety of life on this planet, that you are demonstrably connected to every other form of life, and that 99% of the species that ever lived are now extinct.
The humility of knowing that you (and all homo sapiens) are very, very recent arrivals on the geological clock, and that an unbroken line of successful reproduction going back billions of years has emerged with you as the end product (so far).
I could go on all night... there are literally thousands of thoughts like these. And the fact that they're all based in reality is nice.
So my answer is that by learning about the universe, the Earth and the pursuit of knowledge, requiring no appeal to anything supernatural, you hit upon a 'spirituality' (search 'Spinoza's God') more pervasive and wonderful than anything you'll find in the world of religion.

Spiritualism is nothing more than communicating with your subconscious.....thats what it is to me. Cheers

Do you read the bold at all or just pick on what you want?

Here is spirituality from wiki

The term spirituality lacks a definitive definition, [ 1 ] [ 2 ] although social scientists have defined spirituality as the search for "the sacred," where "the sacred" is broadly defined as that which is set apart from the ordinary and worthy of veneration. [ 3 ]

The use of the term "spirituality" has changed throughout the ages. [ 4 ]In modern times spirituality is often separated from Abrahamic religions, [ 5 ]and connotes a blend of humanistic psychology with mystical and esoteric traditions and eastern religions aimed at personal well-being and personal development. [ 6 ]The notion of "spiritual experience" plays an important role in modern spirituality, but has a relatively recent origin. [ 7 ]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality

Pls can you show me any difference? I tire for nairaland o

barefootbandit: Please elaborate.

You asked about protection or something....government is there to protect when needed. The law of the country will guide you too.

Cleared?

wiegraf: But it's irrational for him to believe they don't exist, or to believe that babalawos cannot create invisible bullet proof belts, etc etc.

Even regarding his skewed definition of atheism, he, as usual, makes no sense.

someone should inform this guy that there is difference between believing and knowing. Chai.

wiegraf watch me but cant see me.....im now nairaland nightmare. Lol

aManFromMars: Evidence for who? The creator or the created?

Did God need us to be God? Coz if seems without us, he's pretty useless. And bored.

is this guy an atheist or nihilist?

italo: Which God/gods do the Atheists disbelieve in. If one doesnt know what 'a' is, how then can he be certain that 'a' doesnt exist.

This still proves Atheism to be irrational.

lol. I argue this sometime ago.

I dont believe in Anthropomorphic God. If by saying God you mean mere admiration or metaphoric like I often use it for fela then we are good to go.

barefootbandit: True, but people are going to need guidance on that, or at least a fellowship of some sorts. Not everybody can walk alone, especially when you've been brought up to attribute and give your life to a deity.

Government and law comes in.

barefootbandit: Op, let me ask you this, after atheism, what next?

According to you it is simply a lack of belief, and nothing more. It is simply anti and not pro. But people need a pro, something to believe in. In other words, to entice people out of something, you have to entice them into something else. You cannot take what people hold on to and give them nothing in return, especially in such a depressing nation.

Hope you get me?

Belief in yourself and capability to work.

Still wondering why christians blame satan for the evil that happen to them. God is evil

Kolo mentality

Logicboy03: Omo....that's a good church



I think there should be a debate between atheists and christians in a church hall.


In the usa, some churches have even start inviting atheists to discuss with the congregation- bt these are very liberal churches

And you think they will recognise you as atheist? Base your point on misconception of a bible verse. Like God is evil according to Isaiah. Haha. Then you can beat anybody who stand up with more verses. They will just look at you as dubious christian.

But dont really if official letter will work though. You can make a try

Logicboy03: Where your church...let me give them some logicboy debunking.......

lol. I dont have church.

Usually invited after bashing members. Lol

@ tchaik

You said everything I have in mind. There is nothing more I can add or remove from your input. It really Epic.

Concerning that bullet-proof juju whatever, I have researched on it and make two different hypothesis pointing to same answer which is Yes, this thing is for real.

Like your signature state, I dont subscribe to supernatural too....everything in my nature is super and really amazing. Hence, we are tend to continue investigations instead of expecting some scientist from western world to research on this. Atheist on this forum argue as if they are rocket scientist whereas they got there knowledge from books and not practical field or lab.

Really appreciate your objectivity.....cheers man

barack_o_handso: Chillax bruv! Don't go down the 'nigga' road hence derailing your thread. I have no ish with your 'Orisa' definition, "Selective consciousness" you say, yes? But that's besides the point.


And "Bîtçh swallow words" is anything but Nigerian/African, you're a staunch promoter of African values and cultures as opposed to American values, no?

I have someone following this thread. You got the definition correct....thumb up man.

What exactly is it im scared of in consciousness? Still wondering

okeyxyz: Interesting. Some author(I don't remember who now) once said: There's a degree of knowledge/science you can achieve by your own efforts, but to go beyond that, you'd have to be invited to partake. In other words: Invited to join an occult group.

I dont know if we have same view on spirituality. Spirituality doesn't refer to spirits in the sense that you're referring to. It's the ability to wonder, to marvel, at actual facts and reality as revealed by modern science. I define my spirituality as the exploration and appreciation of the fundamental underlying nature of reality and the way in which we are all connected in the part of existence that goes beyond our normal perception. Ergo:
The feeling you get when you look up to a clear sky at night and realise that those points of light you're looking at are how they appeared many years ago.
The astonishment you get when you consider the immense variety of life on this planet, that you are demonstrably connected to every other form of life, and that 99% of the species that ever lived are now extinct.
The humility of knowing that you (and all homo sapiens) are very, very recent arrivals on the geological clock, and that an unbroken line of successful reproduction going back billions of years has emerged with you as the end product (so far).
I could go on all night... there are literally thousands of thoughts like these. And the fact that they're all based in reality is nice.
So my answer is that by learning about the universe, the Earth and the pursuit of knowledge, requiring no appeal to anything supernatural, you hit upon a 'spirituality' (search 'Spinoza's God') more pervasive and wonderful than anything you'll find in the world of religion.

Spiritualism is nothing more than communicating with your subconscious.....thats what it is to me. Cheers

InesQor: @OP

I think you've conflated pantheists, panentheists, polytheists etc with atheists in your simplified redefinition. In short it seems like you bundled all non-monotheists into the same pile.

For instance Ifa worshippers are not atheists though an Ifa worshipper can have atheistic leanings. Same goes for Buddhism, the Buddha had strong atheist leanings but buddhism is not necessarily an atheist worldview.

ifa worshipper? Nairaland sha. Lol

Write a letter to a church and hold a formal debate on a tv or radio.

Thats my job anytime I go to church. Though some dont give me audience but I love JW, they can argue for 24 hours now stop.....we share drinks and food and argue.

Bashing pastors in front of his followers is really cool

barack_o_handso: As in, very interesting ehn! Sounds so cool.

In lil wayne voice "B¡tch swallow words, taste my thoughts
And if its too nasty, spit it back at me"

mind helping your friend defining Orisa? Ya you heard me right, if it not good with ya, split it back....meaning prove me wrong