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wiegraf: Your logic and reason leaves room for the supernatural, yes?

Here we go with strawmanning. How many time am I going to tell you that everything in nature is super enough?

That is, you accept that there are supernatural phenomena which cannot be explained/examined by science, yes?

nothing like cannot or impossiblities in revealing answer to scientific questions. I agree with if you say they are not yet answered. Moreover, I didn't say it supernatural. It a natural phenomena.

Your problem with xtian god isn't the supernatural bits, it's the ridiculousness of statements like all the omnixx, yes?

Here we go....you asked about how I will gauge my evidence. I gave you two logical slots and back it with reason showing the contradiction and incoherency in what christians says. You want me to post whole world here?

PAGAN 9JA:
which religion?

abrahamism.

All religion. It has eaten up and infected spirituality.

PAGAN 9JA:
Worship also involves prayer, ritual, and sacrifice . That is our way of worship. And YOrubas do "worship" the Orisha.

Ifa does not need to say. IT is understood.



Ifa ORisha is Religion my friend.

Olodumare is the Creator Force/Creator God. Ask any Babalawo and they will tell you that.

Oldumare is the Energy that is involved in anything pertaining to Creation.




I told you, we do not go by set principles. IT is understood. .

No need arguing since you cant show me faith in Ifa or where it stated in the corpus of Ifa that believe and worship so so and so.

I promise to open a thread for discussing spirituality and religion. Cheers man

Logicboy03: Folykaze is right in a sense.


Some atheists praise buddhism or sometumes hinduism like some intellectual philosophy.

Take muskeeto aka amanfrommars who talks about hinduism like it is some kind of sensible philosophy.

While buddhism and hinduism are atheistic and more humanistic than the abrahamic religionsn they still contain pockets of ignorance.

There are many schools of thoughts within these Asian religions. Some of them wise, some foolish.


I amb very consistent in saying that religions, no matter how sensible they are, are a waste of time. Man can bé good with or without them



Atheist boss

How are you going to deal with this?

logicboy:
64% of Japanese are atheist many of them do not know who Dawkins is.

https://www.nairaland.com/951853/atheism-not-religion-hardcore-debate#10971382

Viewing this topic: jahboy, Logicboy03(m), FOLYKAZE(m)

lol

MamiWata: Let me make it 100% clear that your trying to twist and turn Ifa to suit your atheist needs is moronic and juvenile. I have nothing to learn from you about ATR's so I won't be reading the drivel you've posted to learn about Eshu. Anyone who equates Eshu with Satan is a disrespectful fool.

thanks for not stressing much energy on ya. You dont want to read so stick to ya opinion.

Where did I equate satan with Eshu or you are reading meaning to my post? Pls take this your pathetic lies elsewhere. Where did you see Eshu talking? Common stop equating force with Anthropomorphic being. Maybe you can read through macof thread where I argue concerning satan and Eshu. I have never heard Eshu talking once, you said it so stop reading meaning to my post.

What is it you calling me? Because I didn't submit to your decision so Im a fool. Ya so what next?

Im here to learn....i share mind and reason with others. If you are too big to share knowledge with others and only what your opinion to rule, then you better be ignore.

What is spirit in your own definition? Answer that and stop insulting me.

wiegraf: The god doesn't matter, those specifics are unimportant. I simply want to know how your vetting process works. So, xtian god for instance will do.

How do you go about assessing the evidence for the existence of xtian god?

I now see you are specific. Right, I dont believe in any Abrahamic God. So if anybody come to my doorstep and tell me he is God, logic and reason will be employed here.

The bible and christians claimed he is omnipresent and omnipotent, let check through their claim.

Omnipresency theory shred him immediately when he appears in my room. He is supposed to be everywhere at once and which mean doesn't have the ability if he possess this omnipresency to move from one place to another....therefore he is not omnipotent.

If he deny any of these, then he is not God

Two shot.....

MamiWata: Exactly. He just let me know he's been "taught" by people who know nothing of Eshu.

Nobody taught me anything. I read through his oriki and put on my thinking cap.

Since you want to blab, I promise to write about eshu and intuition here. I dont know why it hard for you to read through the link I gave you. Chai.

Mind answering the questions I asked on previous post or lets agree you read but dont know what you reading?

barack_o_handso: Believe me, you're so not the only one.
And I'm suprised that folykaze now asserts that buddhism is a religion, after claiming otherwise in your previous thread.

You can lie ehn.

I said it more philosophical than religion.

Even when I asked you to explain it religious side, you were just babbling. Chai

okeyxyz: You say buddhism does not recognize spiritual beings, but on the other hand this same buddhism recognizes spiritual activities in that we are all spirits and that this present life is not all there is, that our actions in this life will determine what life we will have in the next life. It is either buddhism is a lazy philosphy or you are just delibrately filtering the aspects you are comfortable with and ignoring the more embarassing/unasnwered parts. Why does buddhism not ask what the origin of all these cycles of birth and rebirth is? It doesn't make sense to simply assert that we are born and reborn, and reborn until infinity if we don't rectify our lives, yet it claims to be without spirituality, yet it doesn't ask: who or what determined this moral basis that we must conduct ourselves with in order to escape this infinite birth cycles. At least other major philosophies(science, christianity, islam, etc) are honest in their claims(whether stupid of not) by asserting that there is an origin, a first cause or creator. But buddhism seems not to have an opinion about cause/origin/creator of this nature system that it recommends it's morals for people to follow. It seems to say that nature system just is!! a nature without cause/begining/creator, yet we the micro-organisms within this uncaused nature need to live by cause and effects. And don't tell me that buddhism agrees with evolution because it certainly does not, evolution has nothing to do with birth and rebirth, has nothing to do with cyclic existences or life after death, or that we exist today as humans, then tomorrow as mosquitoes and the next as sharks, etc. I am not an expert on buddhism, but if what you claim above about buddhism is true and is the sum of it's philosophy, then I can safely conclude that buddhism is a deliberately evasive, unquestful and dishonest philosophy.

I am more suprised that @folykaze is praising this your summary of buddhism.

One more thing, it is virtually impossible to separate religion from buddhism and also impossible to separate religion from spirituality(@floyKaze) This is for the people (atheist, ...) who want to identify differently from christians, moslems and other religionists. Every religion is based on spiritualities/philosophies. The issue is not who has it right and who has it wrong but whether their behaviours(worships) is in respect with their belief systems which includes concepts/entities beyond physically/scientifically evident truths. You can flog christians/moslems/etc as much as you want but the truth is you are basically doing exactly the same things that you deride them for. You believe in conforming to a set of moralities by which you expect to be judged in the life after after death. This is true of buddhism, true of ifa, true of christianity and islam, etc. Yet you claim to be atheist and buddhist/ifa. Am I the only one who's detecting the confusion here(or is it dishonesty)?

so many lots shot at me.

I was praising him for raising the philosophical and spiritual sides of buddhism and Ifa. My next post expose Gods in Ifa and buddhism. Chai

macof: I have seen people with such claims. Eshu has nothing to do with satanism. Don't be like those Christians that call Eshu satan

I knew satan is not Eshu. Was just pulling mamiwata legs.

He said he was communicating with Eshu.....wondering which Eshu. Lol

Ubenedictus: the gods in ifa, you seem to be frantically trying to deny the the orishas are gods not just energy.

I didn't deny the orisa in Ifa. I just see them as symbolic and metaphoric.

What is Orisa to start with?

macof: You make a lot of sense here.
Our ancestors might have actually locked into some sort of cosmic knowledge of nature and the universe, but interpreted it to a case of living sprits running the universe.

Like in the case of Yemoja; she is associated with child birth, it is said that she sends her fishes to the womb(which belongs to her).

It has been scientifically proven that, when we are in our mothers womb, we appear fish-like, but evolve gradually.

And also, I think the womb is some sort of incubator, filled with Liquid substance, and until we grow to size, we just swim around like fishes.

How the Yoruba story rhymes with some latest scientific theories

Thats what im trying to picture. It more than what we see in the surface. Good job dear

donroxy: Read Mr. Troll's post above ..... That is what I'M expecting U to put up in the Op not some kinda jinxed nonsense u wrote Up there !!!

When U believed in something then stand for it infact convince others to embrace it if your are convinced yourself !!!


U don't belief in GOD, what is ur morafuc.ker doing in the church,coward ?

Confused Mumuist !!!

Going to church doesn't mean anything. Especially if he is financially dependant. I do follow friends when im invited to church. Back then, dad drag me to church but I have free myself by building points for myself with bible.... Bible didn't say we should worship in specific building....bible said parents should respect and treat child very well or else na hell even with condition worse than sinner. Thats the trick I used. But that doesn't stop me if they invite me.

My chick self for down live me tail tail..... To show some respect for her belief, it to follow her jonz in church but dont belief in those crap preached there. I took an oppourtunity to bash her choir mistress and also the heading pastor, I could remember the pastor was shaking as I bash him with bible. Lol.... I showed the best and create reason to stop myself. The worst thang those pastor still asking of me. I give them audience when necessary and turn down there invitation without hurting them. Everything is game and fun

The worst moment was when I told my parents im converting to Islam. It was like fire melting iron down. I learnt different lesson to change from iron to water. Following year, I trashed Islam after reading quran for myself and reasoning it out for myself.

Atheism on my path makes smooth thang. I dont have problem with anybody. I learnt to express myself without hurting other. I still join bible reading in family but deep down dont believe in those crap. When I want to bash house, I make it funny so my point dont hurt others.

It been fun all through. I love being myself and exploring things with my mind.

Mr Troll: Make im close from mass first. Me sef de wait.

Bishop travell abeg. And him don carry church key go.

plaetton: Following.

Hey chief. Pls contribute here. Have always been respecting your views with objectivity. Thanks ahead

MamiWata: Spirit is what we are without the physical wrapping. Limiting spirit to intuition is absurd. Spirits possess intuition, remorse, foresight, knowledge, judgement, beliefs, the ability to feel and cause pain, the ability to experience and provoke fear, the ability to communicate with other spirits, etc.

Why is it hard for you to define spirit? And where did I limit Intuition to spirit? Quit right, I know you saying something but the quest is do you understand that thing you are saying?

What is your definition for spirit?

Briefly explain it.

MamiWata: Eshu/Legba is an incredibly powerful spirit that I've communicated with firsthand so I know he is not intuition.

You communicated with Eshu? Do you heard his voice? What are you saying? Lol are you a satanist? Pls read the link I posted. It explain things better. I dont want flood here with off-topic thang. Read it then ask question.

MamiWata: You as an atheist are perhaps trying to shape something that you are attracted to into something that suits your spiritless worldview. However you need to own your atheism instead of trying to pull apart other people's spiritualities in an attempt to create something that suits you. ATR's are not to be done partially as your whims dictate. You should either respect them and yield to spirit or you choose to honor your chosen title as an atheist.

Im not reshaping anything dear. Just calm and get me understood instead of accusing me around. Let me just know if you understand anything you saying.

Orisa is translated to deity.
What is Orisa?

If you know what orisa is, I think you will understand it not an Anthropomorphic being like Abrahamic Gods. Also, you looking at the surface of each of this Orisa stories, they are coded and symbolic. If you had know this, you wont accuse of anything.

MamiWata: In the African tradition spirituality is not about any one individual. Spirituality is about being joined to and serving spirits that our ancestors have connected us with. The group identity that you seek is shallow and meaningless because you are trying to compartmentalize something that is not designed to be broken into parts. If you want to try to pull bits and pieces of other people's spiritualities apart to fill a base emptiness I'd prefer you do it to buddhism.

You are mistaken religion with spirituality dear. Do you even know the difference? I agree that religion has corrupted African spirituality and philosophy but wont deny that African spirituality distinct from religion.

Has any Ifa practitional preached Ifa to you that you convert?

Religion wants to convert everyone, not the spirituality.

Religion is just pretend spirituality for people who aren't spiritual. It's a completely fake manufactured and branded product that robs people of any real spiritual connections by claiming dominion and copyright over it and misrepresenting what spirituality is.
The difference between being religious and being spiritual is similar to the difference between chewing gum and eating food. What you get out of chewing gum is an illusion of eating but it isn't eating. It misses out pretty much everything that's actually important and nourishing.

aManFromMars: I give up. I doubt Folykaze understands any point I made. Ok, u be Ifa atheist. Enjoy.

lol man. It not about much word. It about knowing the fact.

Im African and Yoruba....wont deny that for any thing or anybody.

If my dad house is old, I wont curse it but rebuild it. The bush that grows around it will the cut and the animal to insect polluting it will be forced out......here is another house in the name of my father. The honour goes back to my ancestors not me. Cheers man

wiegraf: Why?

Because it a joke. Could be self-esteem.....or drama. Lol


Can you answer my question. What is God? What concept of God are you refering to?

MamiWata: Vodun is a Fon word that literally means spirit. Eshu/Legba is one of the many spirits recognized. Eshu is not the concept of intuition.

What is spirit?

Do yourself a favor by reading about Eshu here. Also, stroll down for it continuation.

MamiWata: No I never said atheists have no morals. I said they have no moral blueprint. To me they are those brave enough to march off saying "I'll create my own." If some atheists are trying to cling to philosophies founded from other people's spiritualities (such as Ifa or Buddhism) then essentially they are not the brave I thought they were. They are just like most humans....comforted by group think and ideas made for mass consumption.

Have you heard about buddhist atheist? The last time I check, spirituality is not about people but your own self. No blueprint here too huh?

Ubenedictus: folykage it seem the gods scare you and you are trying to run away from them.

which god?

aManFromMars: I have some free time, so I might as well attend to this thread. As usual, I speak for myself.

Thanks for sparing your time.

aManFromMars: Okay, but just to give a little bit more insight.

Link: http://www.buddhanet.net/nutshell03.htm
I personally believe Buddhism is a religion, just one not centered around a divine, conscious Being.

What you post up there is pure and fancy lies. Let me get you to understand that buddhism evolved from Hinduism. And like I said in my OP, I dont know if it evolve to religion on philosophical thought grounded on Hinduism. Buddha was silent on the issue of God.

A common view among some Buddhist is that Buddha said there was no such thing as God. Well, he also said there is no such thing as self also. Does that mean you don't exist just as God doesn't exist? Who or what is reading this if you don't exist? Those people painting this lies are mistaking Buddha's belief that God is beyond our concepts of understanding for non belief in that God. Just as they ere when saying showing reverence for the Buddha is idol worship and supposes him as a god which he always denied vigorously.

Yama the God of Death, Mara the tempter deity....Deva in sanskrit means a god/demigod (Like an angel or something). Brahmā, Asura, Śakra, Yaksha, Sariputta, Tara, Kwan Yin and many other Gods are found in Buddhism. Check more on Deities in buddhism here http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Buddhist_deities,_bodhisattvas,_and_demons.

aManFromMars: Could you list any superstitions you might know of that exist in Buddhism.. note that Buddhism is quite different from Hinduism.

Yeah, the myth surrounding buddha's birth. How a tree bent down to help his mum, how he walked seven step immediately after birth and how a just born baby talk. Go read it up or maybe thats reality to ya.

aManFromMars: You really want to strip Ifa of its gods?

Gods in Ifa are metaphoric. I dont need to strip, I need to study and know it and all it entails.

aManFromMars: Last I checked, no one's stopping you. Just don't expect us to entertain the nonsense that you're an atheist.

As if atheism is codified with justice. Im atheist unless definition of atheism changes.

aManFromMars: Now this is plain silly. Atheism, like most other enquiries, is as a result of doubt and a search for evidence. Can you prove to me that 'doubt' and 'evidence' are only native to the Westerner?

Evading my question to attack me. Good.

Spirituality is about doubt, questioning and searching. Now answer my quest.

aManFromMars: This is plain silly. What do you mean by be 'ourselves'?

This is really pathetic. Why cant you answer simple question without insulting others?

Atheist on this forum are embracing buddhism philosophy and spirituality.....dont we have African philosophy and spirituality? Why are you ignoring whats yours for what belong to another person? Pls answer my questions.

aManFromMars: Another silly statement. I'm atheist and hardly know this people. LB and Cyrexx told me some months back that I remind them of Sam Harris. I'm yet to check him out.

Common man you sounding unintelligent. I didn't ask you to insult me. Answer my question.

Buddhism is religion is Asia but those practising it in Europe are mostly atheist..... Even prominent atheist like Harris embraced it by separating it from religion. Since it religion, why you guys not taking it for that but following the western picture of it? Pls answer my questions.

aManFromMars: Also, atheism isn't a religion.


You're confused.

who ask you this? Did I said it religion or why making it appear like religion? Mtchewwww

aManFromMars: What is colonization and mental slavery is returning to what our ancestors did, rituals/beliefs/initiations that didn't protect them from the slave owners. That's the height of stupidity.

Did I ask you to return to African spirituality? I said why cursing the dark instead of lighting it? Dont you know the difference among regressing, continuing and progressing? Stop dodging my question, face it directly as a man.

Your ancestors weren't buddhist.....embracing buddhism which stamping on African spirituality is self-inferiority, self-oppression and self-devaluation. To enslave and colonize a world, it take a mental slam of telling the other to trash their history, heritage and culture and embrace that of others. Kindly answer my question....why cant you light the candle in your own room? Isn't that self banding and selling self into mental slavery?


Kindly address my question, the whole rant is not what I need. And pls do away with insult. Thanks

wiegraf: Any god. When someone shows up at your door claiming allah, thor or pikkiwokki, how do you assess their claims?

I see that as joke. Lol.

Again what is God?

Give me the definition and concept of God you are asking claim of, by then you have a straight answer.


If you have go through the link I gave you, you would have understand me better. Read through the link and ask your question with clarity.

ninja4life: I believe atheist are not christians or muslims dat wen their religious leaders tell them to do something they do dat thing without questioning as long as d pastor or imam says its from god.if u want atheists to believe in african philosophy and spirituality its up to u to give reasons and evidence to back up ur claims.u said spirituality is knowing ur true self then according to dat spirituality should be personal and therefore no need in worrying about budhism or ifa spirituality since d philosophy and spirituality are to be developed by u and u alone.

Lol.

You got most of things wrong. Im not asking anybody to believe in African philosophy or spirituality. What im asking them is to do know it.

Most of African spiritual concept are lost and corrupted. Eledumare translating to Yahweh, Eshu translating to Lucifer, other Orisa turning to demons and devil agents. That is what most people know. This is the infected spiritual concept by western religion. Atheist on this forum are bent to thinking spirituality is the same as religion.

Dont curse the dark, light the candle. Buddhism is not philosophical and also religion though the westerner has forcefully separate religion from it and painting it atheistic. So African atheist are embracing buddhism because westerner rebrand it. Why cant we light the candle in our room instead of another person room? Why cursing your dark room why it you who didn't light it up?

Thats my shot.

PAGAN 9JA:
No Pagan religion will tell you to do anything. we do not have books.

To begin with, define worship.

In Paganism, worship is by appeasing the SPiritual Forces. This is done through prayer and ritual.

In Ifa Orisha, there are elaborate sets of ritual, sacrifice , prayer, etc to appease and connect to the Orisha. All of this counts as worship.

Again, there is belief. There is belief in the Creator Force, etc., and other Orishas.

Faith is present in the Spiritual World.

Ifa and the order of Priesthood is organized in Yorubaland.

I stick to my case. True Religion is Spirituality.

I do not refer to abstract Spirituality. I refer to SPirituality with regards to the practices prevalent in Yoruba Religion.

Worship is an act of religious devotion usually directed towards a deity. It can also mean respect and love.

You are attributing worship as prayer.... Im asking worshipping of what? Do Ifa says worship anything? Pls answer.

Creator or creation is religion coming in. In Yoruba spirituality, you know much more that most of their term is symbolic and personifing energies is what brought confusion today. Eledumare is infinite consciousness. The creation legend is more like today science and went far back to big bang. Though it short but deep.

Erm... Spirituality or religion is another topic. But sorry, you couldn't show me faith or where Ifa taught that worship this and not this.

PAGAN 9JA:
SO how are Pagan religions any different from what you said?

In the past in almost all tribes (even now), the Oracle/Priest's role was treated as an office, next to the Chiefs.

The only reason why some religions are disorganized today is because they are dying out.


And as for Ifa Orisha, it is one of the most organized religions in all of West Africa and Africa.

Note: I dont know much about African pagan belief. The only thing im concerned about is Ifa and Yoruba spirituality.

Chief show me where you find worshipping in Ifa. Ifa didn't say you should worship anything.

Ifa is more about spirituality and not believing. Nobody is asking you to believe anything in Yoruba.

Ifa or Orisha practise is not about worshipping any deity/god. Orisha practise is recognizing the energies your consciousness can grap.

Ifa doesn't require faith.

I wont deny the fact that there are 'awo' which mean secret. They are group so if thats what you call organise then you are right..... Ifa and Yoruba spirituality is not organise anywhere. Maybe you think it santeria or lukumi.

Sorry spirituality evidently different from religion

PAGAN 9JA:
True Religion is SPirituality.

Your views of Religion have been distorted and damaged by christianity and islam, thereby enforcing you to believe that the ways of these 2 "new irreligions" is what defines religion.

The religions before christianity never evangelized. Religion is not supposed to be about evangelizing. Because True religion is about ones personal SPirituality.



We can do a test. dont go and read up on google or a dictionary.

According to you, what is the definition of religion?

Religion is an organised body of faith, spirituality, which involve ritual activities, system of belief in and worshipping of God

wiegraf: ^^^^

how do you gauge the evidence for/against gods?

Erm....what is God? Fela is my God....he existed. Wrong?

This will only stop if you take your time to read through that link I gave you....by then, I will know where to drive at

PAGAN 9JA:
I understand your concerns.

Atheists must be careful not to atheistize Pagan religions, including Ifa Orisha.

If they truly want to embrace and defend the traditions of their forefathers, they must back the Spiritual beliefs as a religion and push for its National Recognition.

one cannot be two.

I differ with you here. Spirituality is not and never religion.

In Ifa, ori eni ni orisa eni. My consciousness is my deity. Does that mean I need to evangelize my consciousness and worship it? Nope....so go and figure out about difference in spirituality and religion

ninja4life: i will like u to define spirituality cos most time i come across it d first thing dat comes to mind is d belief in spirits which is spiritualism.i'm sure there are others like dat.spirituality hav different definition and its definition usually changes over time.so i think it will be better if u define ur own idea of spirituality or better start using another term which best describe ur ideas.my opinion.just like pantheist uses god when making a discusion one might think dey believe in a supernatural god like d abrahamic religions cos god is usually used to denote a supernatural being therefore causing some sort of misunderstanding i stand to be corrected though.

Thanks man

This is exactly what spirituality is.

The idea of a process or journey of self-discovery and of learning not only who you are, but who you want to be.

The challenge of reaching beyond your current limits. This can include keeping an open mind, questioning current beliefs, or trying to better understand others' beliefs.

A connectedness to yourself and to others. Spirituality is personal, but it is also rooted in being connected with others and with the world around you. This connection can facilitate you finding "your place in the world."

Meaning, purpose, and direction. Spirituality, while it doesn't necessarily solve or reach conclusions, often embraces the concept of searching and moving forward in the direction of meaning, purpose, and direction for your life.

http://swc.osu.edu/about-us/spirituality/

And yes, I found out that the term God is really problematic. It can mean different thing to different people. I created a thread for this issue, read it here

@ okeyxyz

I agree with you that Buddhism is a religion. From what I read about it, it evolved from Hinduism and like I stated before, I dont know if buddha wanted to form another religion or want to build philosophical thought on Hinduism. Anyway, prior to Buddhism which we see today, Gautama Buddha was a philosopher and freethinker. What he was advocating is all about philosophy of existence, essence of life as suffering and enlightenment. Buddha means Awakened or enlightened from illusion
"Buddhi" means Intellect. . Buddha was silent when asked about the belief in God and he venerate spiritually at natural world. So it is more philosophical but unfortunately, religion took over it. I dont agree with you on the stand that buddha teach other to follow his teachings. I remember where he said “Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.” So I dont see where he is urging or teaching people to follow is teaching. Anyway, the westerners have forcefully separated buddhism from religion. Atheist from Africa seem to embrace 'godless buddhism' as atheistic. However, African philosophical thought and spirituality has been infected with religion so atheist from Africa stamped and throw it out of window why they took twin-spirituality from another land because it rebranded by westerners. So the question is why lighting a candle in another person room while your room is dark and you cursing the dark? Why cant we light same light in our room?


We also need to understand that religion is different from spirituality. The essence of spirituality is the search to know our real self, to discover the true nature of consciousness. You also wrong saying spirituality; not scientific proven....“Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality- Carl Sagan. So in as much you atheist, you can be spiritual but religion is completely out of it.


One can be an atheist or any form of spirituality be it buddhism or Ifa. What defines atheist is disbelief in the existence of God/god. And finally, in Yoruba spirituality or Ifa, there are lot of orisa. English vocabulary most of time don't contain the core meaning of another language. A very good example is 'eku ile' in yoruba, it is translate to 'welcome' in english. However, they the word 'welcome' do not cover the whole picture of 'eku ile'.

So if by saying Deity you mean to say Orisa, then I will agree lot of Orisa are in Ifa. But what is Orisa? Orisa = Ori (consciousness) + sa (selected) means it is selected consciousness among the infinite consciousness. Therefore, Orisa doesn't relate with any anthropomorphical God but selected consciousness.