₦airaland Forum

Draslo:
You know Jackshit!

What is alien to us ke? Are you aware that the Yoruba Muslim is as a result of Fulani nomadic conquests?

Who told you that? There had been a Muslim population in Yorubaland long before Fula ever surfaced. This was through trade with Mali during the Mali empire. Yoruba call Islam Esin Emale. Meaning Mali's religion. Stop saying what you don't know.

Besides, there were never Fulanis conquest in Yorubaland. Ilorin then was just a war camp to stop invaders from Oyo Empire and it was not taken by conquest.

manduwem:
A team lead by one mechanic looted chairs while some other touts broke as many window glasses as they could.
The public address system was looted.
Those are the aspects missing when we visited in December.
Still awaiting government committee on assets recovery to state all that was stolen

Why? So bad.

You want them to defend Buhari when he already betrayed them.

If dem hear phem for Tinubu mouth peren, his political career is over in the SW not to talk of South.

Besides, they are the same waiting for these to misyan in other to rope them.

CODEIN:
All the facts list you posted, you omitted one ultimate point. Fulanis are not africans, fulanis are subset of arabs which is why they do everything to conply with arab culture abs islam. It is a fact. The real fulanis are pale skin like oyibo arabs. They brought islam to west africa and mirdered millions of natives after been decieved and manipulated to fight each other has they do to nigerian native now. They know they dont belong here they know they dont have any native land here, they are not indigenous to Africa which is why they kill and terrorisw wveryone to fear them and collect their land by force using government power and manipulation of the foolish among the natives. They are the ones in boko haram, herdsmen killers terrorising and kindapoing and raping and ambushing natives all over nigeria, they believe they conquered the hausa people but one day soon the hausa shall take back their native lands from these petty thieves. Do more research work and you will see. Check their hair and nose...it is of arab type. Add that to your list to make it 41. Good work.

Fulani didn't bring Islam to West Africa.

Razzness:
Just ask urself this simple question. Why have the hausa and fulani never ever had a clash, conflict, war or bloodshed despite living together for over a thousand years? Hausa and fulani are always in agreement regarding socio-political or religous affairs there has never been a clash of intrest regarding leadership or land ownership, why is it so? Just make comparism with tiv-idoma, igala-ibira, ijaw-itshekiri and so on who are always at each others neck.

1808 and 1836 Fulani Hausa wars were over one thousand years in your own estimation, right?

This government na illiterate. What is the essence of the judiciary if not to interpret the law/constitution?

Very ignorant people.

staetic:
Top 10 most spoken native languages in Africa.

1. Arabic—150 million speakers
2. Swahili—140 million speakers
3. Hausa—130 million speakers
4. Fulani—80 million speakers
5. Yoruba—50 million speakers
6. Igbo—40 million speakers
7. Berber—32 million speakers
8. Zulu—28 million speakers
9. Amharic—26 million speakers
10. Oromo—25 million speakers

© Africa Facts

Where is your source? Fula is not among the top 10.

New chief

The governor try I no go lie. Better than that kerosene distributor.

They just lied to live in peace to buy time else what are they going to do in Ibarapa without cows if not for reprisal?

It seems there will be another protest.

Is this real or fake news?

Na wa ooooo.

Kwashiman:
Bro forget all this attempts to salvage your badly fractured ego by face-saving... fact is that the Fulani boy despite been outnumbered by the farmers stood his ground and the farmer and his crew backed off, the cows were still sighted in the distance eating from the farm and they couldn't do shit to our boys.

Do you mean 3>3?

Is that what you call outnumbered in your village?

Kwashiman:
Quote wrong scriptures that don't exist, abeg go siddon jare

Deu 32:8
"When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when he divided all mankind, he set up boundaries for the peoples....."

Now that you know, can you stop speaking out of ignorance.

Kwashiman:
Story for the gods, so why did he back off then? He should have stayed there to see out his dare since the Fula boys will end up grazing on his farm anyway

Why did the Fula boys backoff?

He was saying he is coming back to fight with plenty Fulas. Why didn't he and about 3 Fulas with him graze on the farm?

Kwashiman:
Where on the land was his name written? God created land for man to explore and those Fulani boys are exercising their divine rights to graze there.

The same God said he divided the lands according to nations and set their boundaries.

Why can't the Fula boys respect the will of God?

Kwashiman:
The yeriba farmer backed away with his brothers even against two Fulani boys, despite been outnumbered those warriors stood tall like Iroko Trees, God bless the proud Fula tribe

Did you hear their conversation?

The farmers dared them to graze on their farm in their presence but the Fula man couldn't.

Kwashiman:
Shut up you Nyamurrri pig, what offence did the Fulani boy commit, so because he refused to cower to intimidation for exercising his God-given rights to graze then we Fulanis caused havoc in Nigeria? wasn't it your brothers that first caused a coup that ruined the peaceful democracy of this nation?

Did God gave him the right to graze on somebody's farm?

"Emura emura emura oooooooo....."

Farmer: "Ema pa gbogbo Yoruba no?"

Herdsmen; "Patapata....e lo ra Ibon nla nla...Fulani n bo"

"Where will you create a colony in Nigeria? Is it in my own part of the country that you will now make a colony? Who will give you land to create a colony .....". Buhari, over to you.

He has just exonerated Igboho from the crisis in Ibarapa.

aumeehn:
lol thesame Obj that won without the backing of the SW I thought you said Yorubas are the kingmakers, then why choose the position of the VP since you are the ones that call the shots as far as national politics is concerned. Continue ranting on SM it wont change anything. Whether you like it or not the Fulbes are your superiors as far as leadership is concerned. And Yes we live in the bush, but we will continue lording over you people.

I am on my way to Bush sef to check how my Cows are fairing.

Yoruba has never being the kingmaker until Buhari because they were opposition.

aumeehn:
you still sound emotional lol. You keep on shouting Buhari Buhari but i told you that he is not the only Elected Fulani president In Nigeria. Why are you dodging? I am not boasting or swearing up and down, I am giving you facts, if you cannot counter me with facts then this will be the last time i will honour you with a reply. Yar'adua a Fulani man won without the backing of the Yoruba and won, so stop shouting Buhari this Buhari that, besides how can you call yourself a Kingmaker and still be a subordinate to who you installed?

Yar'adua was not a Fula man. He was Tuaregs.

aumeehn:
you sound emotional young man! Last time i checked Buhari is not the only democratically elected Fulani President in Nigeria. So stop ranting about how Buhari won because of the Yorubas. The Yorubas rallied around him to spite the SS And SE, Buhari got morethan 1million vote in a single state in the North and you are here shouting about you helping Buhari win Election. If truly the Yorubas are the kingmakers in Nigeria then they should not worry about Apc or Pdp zoning they should form a new party and win. Nonsense and ingredients, you will be put back permanently to where you belong that is the opposition, better geat ready man, the night is usually dark before dawn.

Apart from Shehu and Buhari no other fula ruled Nigeria.

aumeehn:
is Yaradua a Yoruba man??

Yaradua was not a Fula. He was a Tuaregs.

Only Shehu and Buhari were the two fula that ruled Nigeria.

aumeehn:
Hahahaha Fulanis fear on a lowkey There is nothing like fear on a low, fear is fear, cowardice is cowardice! It's all about 2023 we all know that. We can't be pushed around because we are unpredictable, we have clear goals OGa! And the goal is to win 2023 Elections

Posting live and direct from my RUGA! Everybody is calm, The time to deal with you folks is after 2023 Elections but for now, nothing will distract us.

How far? Did you see how the seriki fled? What's your take on that?

You are only fooling yourself comes 2023.

If you force your way in then you know the implication.

TAO11:
But it is several decades too late. There are earlier accounts (several decades earlier) which states that Ahsipa is a Yoruba man from Isheri.

Moreover, Ashipa has no meaning in Bini language, only in Yoruba language does it have a meaning without any twist and turn.

If you desperately twist and turn the word “Ashipa” to make it sound like a Bini word, then you will end up with a word that can NEVER be the name of any human or even animal. Try it.

Neither is Ashipa a Bini as demonstrated above, nor does the presence of combatant within the confines of a fence in 1603, show that.

Moreover, it has been demonstrated that while Ulsheimer’s notes say nothing about how the Binis’s predecessors first migrated to Lagos in the 1500s; the later presence of armed persons in one of the towns in 1603-4 is seen in the same notes to be in response to a relatively fresh situation that called for a military intervention.
I have already expounded on the background to this while citing relevant pages from Ulsheimer’s notes.

Cry harder, Egharevba is too late in comparison to all the earlier accounts that identified Ashipa as a Yoruba native from Isheri.

Because Bini ladies are easy lays. Oranmiyan proved, Ashipa confirmed it, and Italy stamped it.

No eyewitness account contradicts any aspect of the Lagos account as I have repeatedly demonstrated.

This has been debunked in the first comment of this present series.

Then yo’ve not read the refernces I have been citing. Lagos island (and the other adjacent islands as well as many towns on the mainland) was under the ownership and control of the ruler based at Iddo –whose title was Olofin and later Oloto.

~ A. C. Burns, 1929, p.42-44.

Ulsheimer also ruled “Lago”?? Wonderful – He must have been the great-grandson of the then Oba of Benin. LMAO!

Anyway, what Ulsheimer described is one town (which he visited) wherein lived the Binis their boundary.

In this town did Ulsheimer observe them settling disputes amongst themselves within the confines of that fence they lived and sending messages back home – just as a man would settle disputes within his household.

A town is a settlement – And nowhere does Ulsheimer used the comparative adjective “larger”, nor did he use the superlative adjective “largest”.


This has already been debunked where I stated that:

“Ulsheimer is a voyage surgeon who visited this one town (not the other towns on the island) and was writing about the internal activities there. And he stayed in Lago only for a limited period – a few weeks at most.

Your childish statement is like arguing that there is no CDA Chairmen in your uncle’s neighborhood, because on your visit to his house – he was the only one controlling his household throughout your short-lived stay”

FALSE!

First of all, the “town Lago” of Ulsheimer’s notes is NOT equivalent to today’s “Lagos”.

Also, the town “Lago” of Ulsheimer’s notes is NOT equivalent to today’s “Lagos Island”.

Instead, the “town Lago” of Ulsheimer’s not is one of the different towns on Lagos island as at the year 1603-4 of Ulsheimer’s visit.

And Ulsheimer’s note (from oral information) that this specific town is owned by the Benin king corresponds ONLY to ownership from conferment by the native owners.

This is the only ownership-type confirmed by evidence. Not from conquest from the 1500s (which he says nothing about – refer to my earlier comments), nor from aboriginal right.

I would have though you agreed that Lagos island as a whole was owned by the Aworis – the closes of whom lived on the neighboring island of Iddo.

You agreed with my fOlkTaLeS. What has suddenly changed.

I would love to see where it was debunked.

Neither Wikipedia nor popularity is the definition of what is factual. I would have expected that you should know that.

The Lagos account is several decades earlier than Egharevba’s later day redaction.

You have to make up your mind.

In any case, whatever you come up with of these two has already being debunked above.

This has been repeatedly debunked above.

The said Eti-Osa wars here are said to have commenced in the 1700s.

If so, this has nothing to do with the immigration of the Binis into Lagos in the 1500s. Neither does this have anything to do with Ulsheimer’s visit of 1603-4.

Moreover, Osadolo’s opinion here of “expansion” is an opinion from the year 2001 – that is; several decades later than even Egharevba’s account itself, and more than a century later than the Lagos accounts.

Provide your evidence for where I stated that “after Ashipa, no one paid any longer”.

My position instead is that it was a case of use and dump, because the Yoruba monarchy was asserted as an independent one (with your Oba’s backing), and the tribute eventually stopped (after 10, 000 years if you like) despite the continued existence of the monarch and its continued generation of revenue.

First of all, the only source on this are the Lagos sources.

Secondly, the account never said the Oba of Benin “ordered” Idewu-Ojulari to vacate the throne. Neither were the Lagos people and chiefs comfortable with Idewu-Ojulari’s tyranny.

Being against his chiefs’ will and the people’s will – his Chiefcommunicated with the Oba of Benin to help in his removal.

Yet, the Oba didn’t merely order him to leave – he gave him choice of warfare of leaving in which case he took the later and committed suicide.

At the background to all this – the same Lagso account also states that the monarch is a Yoruba monarchy and that the Benin king was instrumental to its foundation when he backed the Yoruba man Ashipa in its foundation.


This has been debunked severally. The letter says absolutely nothing about a paternal link between Ashipa (the Yoruba progenitor of the dynasty) and the then Benin king.

Neither does the letter say a thing about any conquest of Lagos by any Benin king. The letter makes no such statement.

The most said by the letter is the existence of a strong tie between the Lagos monarch and the Benin monarchy; and this is clarified by the Lagos account which identifies the basis of this srong-tie with the fact that a Benin king was the patron and backer of the Yoruba man Ashipa who founded the Lagos monarchy.

Provide your evidence for this.

Evidence ??

Lack of informtion you say ?? Ignorant falsehood galore.

Egharevba had access to some European’s writings actually.

And the earliest available writings say Ashipa is a Yoruba man.

This name agrees with the Yoruba language. And this name disagrees with the Bini language – even if you twist it. Lol.

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gregyboy:
Lol, you're just pained beyond control

I will do more damage to the yorubas you better start gathering your hate on time

The British did everything to hide the real fact on the war due to the unjust reason they ambushed benin,

Benin fell in 3 months, guerilla warefare lasted 2 years more

The British would say benin fell in a day, 7days, a month
Their figures is not static, because they wrote to hide the truth about the war, they wrote after the war to label Benin racially weaker than them to impress the white the superior race they are


Truth be told, if benins didnt fall, they wouldn't have been a southern protectorate and you yoruba lots wouldn't have been colonize and you would have still have you African pride intact

But instead you decide to insult the african kingdom, that stood for all southerners including your Yoruba people

After Benin was conquered the southern protectorate was formed aren't you aware

No wonder the stupid awolowo was afraid about the fact that if the benins leave western region they will go back to Form the benin empire, who would rule over them and her neighbour's

Kkkkkkkkk. This guy just dey deceive himself.

AlhajiImam:
Cattle ranching is alien to our culture

Open grazing is also allien to the host culture.