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Christianity Etc › Re: Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? by frank317: 6:55am On Jun 02, 2019
budaatum:
Lol my Lord. You might have gone up the wrong mountain like I did many times, and without first visiting the jesustician to get a pair of jesusglasses, a direction to which I include this link, though couched in my own ignorance.

I assure you. In fact, no! Let me not bother to assume to assure you my Lord, since it appears that you already know that when the eye is ready the mud spitter would turn up to spit on mud and rub it in your eye, and you, my Lord, will see.

I cannot, myself, believe that buda prays for and preaches to my Lord!
Pray, do tell him where the right mountain is... Perhaps I might follow.
Christianity Etc › Re: Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? by frank317: 9:21pm On Jun 01, 2019
LordReed:
How does reading prove that the gods you say are dead exist? Your gods have moved to a place that we have no way of investigating and I even allowed for the possibility of their existence so what is closed minded about that?

I have said once and I will say it again, stories are not enough to prove gods, you going to need more substantial proof than that. I don't believe in Big Foot or Loch Ness monster because I have not seen substantial proof that they exist yet I have read a lot about them.
You don't believe in big foot? U are close minded... Read about ithuhhuhhuh?
Christianity Etc › Re: Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? by frank317: 1:59pm On May 30, 2019
budaatum:
But we can practice it, if we but tried harder! And if we see a need to.
Yes, if we see a need to... Right now I see no need to.
Christianity Etc › Re: Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? by frank317: 1:54pm On May 30, 2019
johnydon22:
LOL, we just agreed that you should make Christianity your focal point, whoever asks you such questions as above, we can both agree would be idiotic.
You can imagine how he thinks... He claims he can only talk about the Christian God, yet he is worried that he will be asks which God is he talking about, when could easily answer: the Christian God duh grin

The bottom line is that they just hate questions.
Christianity Etc › Re: Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? by frank317: 1:49pm On May 30, 2019
Shepherd00:
It's not. I wanted a foundation upon which to stand on. I can't go talking abt other religions when all I know abt them is like a man looking through a stained glass. I'd rather talk abt what I know which is Christianity.
Statements like this are the reason why I think religion should go. Christianity is not the only religion that exists. People worship in other modes and somehow we are all affected by someone's foolish irrational decision somewhere.
Last last we must talk about it all, be it ur religion or not.
I hate all these hypocritical statement when we know somewhere somehow u have talked about how boko haram is a menace to the society because of their "messed" up believe.

If you acknowledge Love for Ones neighbor, then you acknowledge that what you see today in our society is not a true reflection of Christianity, hence, shd not be used as model to judge what it is.
In other words true Christianity does not exist anymore, because I have never seen a man who loves his neighbor as himself, not even ur self proclaimed men of God.
Why then the hypocrisy? Why do we waste our time claiming we practicing what we know we cant do.
Let's just abolish it an face reality.
Christianity Etc › Re: Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? by frank317: 8:24pm On May 28, 2019
budaatum:
"Believing" is precisely what should not exist! People can be taught to 'know' instead by diligently checking their beliefs. That is the reason that religion, the teaching of what to believe, has evolved into education, the teaching of how to use one's God given brain to check the validity of one's beliefs.
Actually, u have a point
Christianity Etc › Re: Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? by frank317: 10:21am On May 28, 2019
Shepherd00:
I can't speak for all religions, but in Christianity 'Good deeds' does not take anyone to Heaven. Receiving a new Life and Nature which only Christ gives does.


Christianity was not intended for people to be Good, it is intended for people to Love and treat their neighbors as they wld want themselves be treated.

It's intended for earth to be an extension of heaven's administration and it shall be in future.


The Christian Religion is not hinged primarily on achieving good things. That is a misinformation. Everything is Ours already, so we don't work to archive what we already have.

But, again, After this earth, there's another Life to live, that is what Christianity is abt Primarily. Any Christian who gets distracted from this is misled.

Apst Paul says If all our hope is what we can achieve in this world, then we are of all men most miserable



All of what you mentioned are not Christian traits.

Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ preaches none of it. None.

If those traits are found in any one inside the Church, it's either the person is a baby Christian, or a Tare pretending to be Wheat.

He that is called of God speaks and does the Word of God

Also don't forget that satan is inside the Church with the intent to plant the seeds which you now see and talk abt. We were told these things will happen, but that does not make Christianity as a Faith/religion what you term it.


If one of your brothers turns out an armed robber, jt does not mean your entire clan are armed robbers or that your family has a law that it's offspring must be thieves.
It seem u quoted me just to teach me what Christianity is all about. I don't know what u expect me to do with that.

Is his tread about what Christianity is all about?

Well, I see one loving his neighbours as himself as a good thing... If this is not a good thing to u, I dont know what being good means to u.
Christianity Etc › Re: Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? by frank317: 7:09am On May 28, 2019
johnydon22:
Ok, so basically you are just against certain aspects of religion and not an entire erosion of the entire institution?
Yea... We can't deny that is has its good side or good intentions. We have seen bad people pretend turn good because of religion. Some are just trying hard to be good just because the wanna good to heaven.

While goodness can very well to achieved without religion, we can't deny that certain aspects of religion has helped this cause.

My point on not wanting religion is that all good things achieved by religion can be achieved even without it... But looking at the bad things like its unique extortion, unique hypocrisy, self delusion and denial, pretentious hatred for others (different others), physical and psychological terrorism, fear mongering, and segregation... One can say, it SHOULD GO!!!

But unfortunately it can't because mugus must exist.
Christianity Etc › Re: Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? by frank317: 1:52pm On May 27, 2019
I would have preferred a world where the kind of religion that is practiced around me does not exist.

Believing in anything can always exist. But if religion is all about what I am seeing...

- different beliefs hating on each other and condemning themselves..
- people praying instead of acting and thinking their useless prayers is effective, thereby indulging in self deciet..
- indirectly promoting laziness and living a wish
- Living a hypocritic life and a holier than thou life
- deliberately being a sheeple..


Religion should just go if possible... But mugus must always exist.
Christianity Etc › Re: My Prophecy About The End Of Atheism Still Very Much On Course 3 Months Later by frank317: 1:21pm On May 25, 2019
My people... for the first time in human history, I present to u, the real image of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, God in human form.

All u atheists, u asked for it, now God has finally revealed himself...

Christianity Etc › Re: My Prophecy About The End Of Atheism Still Very Much On Course 3 Months Later by frank317: 6:56am On May 25, 2019
Eyaaa... This is truly sad.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is In Abuja? Let's Discuss Or Debate In Person. by frank317: 11:29pm On May 20, 2019
Awwwwww.. Would have been fun to meet u, but I am no more in abj.

Will hala anytime I visit.
Christianity Etc › Re: Would you spare an atheist robot? by frank317: 6:55am On May 18, 2019
shadeyinka5:
The OP made an allegory, one of your guys say "robots can see humans" therefore the ops analogy is dumb.
Yes, one of "my" guys says robots can see humans, that's going by the allegory "ur" guy made.

If ur guys allegory that robots are capable of determining who their creator is, why wouldn't they be able to see? And if humans are around them like we are, why won't they see us.

Are u arguing for argument sake?

He's to use his imagination, after all the op mentioned "interacting with real world (human World) and it doesn't assume robots can see or not see humans.
It does my brother... If robots are conscious enough to determine if humans are or are not their creator... That means they would be able to see us because we are already here interacting with them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Would you spare an atheist robot? by frank317: 10:52pm On May 17, 2019
shadeyinka5:
Have you seen any robot acquire consciousness?

Until that time keep quiet.

The kind of Questions a car will ask about humans is:
Are humans using fossil fuels or battery powered
Do humans use piston engines or jet technology.
How many horsepower is the human engine using.

If they tell the intelligent car that the answer is no for all, he will assume that the Question is really dumb!
Are u saying the op is senseless?
Christianity Etc › Re: by frank317: 6:49pm On May 17, 2019
And they keep on opening threads that shows they lack the ability to think
Christianity Etc › Re: Would you spare an atheist robot? by frank317: 4:39pm On May 17, 2019
dalaman:
Roberts see and interact wit humans directly. When was the last time you interected with your God? When did you see him and what did he tell you directly?
He he... Humans exists, its easy for even the dumbest robot to know humans are their creator...

But God does not exist or is yet to be proven.

Its an insult for these people to compare existing humans to a nonexistent God, something that lives in the head of its believers.
Christianity Etc › Re: Would you spare an atheist robot? by frank317: 4:36pm On May 17, 2019
Why will the robot I created refuse to believe I am his creator?

Answer: when I leave the responsibility of letting him know I am his creator to his fellow robots.
Romance › Re: How Do I Survive Seeing My Ex-Girlfriend On Campus? by frank317: 5:29pm On May 14, 2019
SIR0:
I just had a breakup and now I am having some pretty nasty heartache. This lady & I stay on the same campus and we see many times. Though I have been trying to overcome the pain, but my heart still strikes whenever we cross paths or I see her. I have about three months to finish and probably leave for NYSC this year, still, I wonder how to survive seeing her within the limited time left. It gives me sleepless nights. And this is the period I need to be more concentrated on my studies and final year project. She's not likely to come back as she seems to be in love with another guy already. I really need some relief.

Would I be able to forget about her soon after leaving because the love I have for her is too much?

N.B: I never put the blame for leaving me on her. She is not to blame at all.

Please advise a brother.
Thanks in anticipation.
Been there bro... U know the good news, u will see this same girl in the next two years and be wondering why on earth u were dying for her.

Had this girl that made me feel exactly like u feel in my 300level days, saw her a year after NYSC and she was married with a kid. What was I even thinking? Yak.

Let her enjoy now cos is her time... There are many fishes in the water even as them go soon chop her own flesh finish.
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun And Other Atheists Pls Come In Here. by frank317: 8:59pm On May 12, 2019
orisa37:
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I am just saying that you must have Drug for Liver problems before you start eating cockroaches.
grin
Celebrities › Re: Iceberg Slim Calls Juliet Ibrahim 'Cheetah'. Juliet Fires Back by frank317: 7:48pm On May 10, 2019
U call him stupid, that makes u stupid x2 for letting a stupid person ride u and press ur nyash all these while.
Christianity Etc › Re: Seun And Other Atheists Pls Come In Here. by frank317: 7:42pm On May 10, 2019
NPComplete:
I repeat again. Most Awo are poverty-stricken bastards. U can take that to the bank. What Bollywood images are u ranting about. I am telling u what I know u are talking nonsense about movies.

So Wole Soyinka won a Nobel prize with the power of Ogun right? Where do u morons crawl out from?

Use ur own Awo to win a Nobel prize. And stop spamming this thread. Use it to win one of the millennium prizes in mathematics. Or use it to crack hard cryptographic problems and earn money.
Or u can even use it to predict the NYSE market and become a billionaire. Stop spouting silly nonsense here. U are just another clown in a long line of clowns we have seen here.

By the way, I am not an atheist. If u weren't able to know that with your esoteric knowledge and mysticism then you are useless and not worth arguing with. Lol
Its really tiring when people vomit trash and feel intelligent while talking nonsense. How do u even start to deal with such a person.

The bad news is that he inflicts his young innocent generation with his stupidity and the circle starts all over again.

Its scary to even become aware that such people are the front runners of the society and wherever they go they inject their illogical beliefs into the logics they see.

My question is... What's the advantage of believing something is supernatural? Does this belief give u an edge over others?

Why must I believe something is supernatural if it does not give me an advantage over others.

If I see a girl acting all possessed and I believe she is possessed by an evil spirit,does my believe help the girl? Does it help me? The answer is NO!!

We have religious folks all over the place believing in all sorts of rubbish like their lives depends on it... Yet, we all have equal chance of survival. We both have to struggle, work hard, think smart and act right to have a comfortable life.

What then is the essence of believing in the supernatural that has not basis? Why do I have to argue with someone who is not different from me to believe in a baseless arguable supernatural stuff if he has nothing to benefit from it. Absolutely nothing.
Christianity Etc › Re: Adeboye To Single Ladies: Don’t Marry Jobless Men by frank317: 8:30pm On May 06, 2019
jay7:
Seriously 40k is something as long as d lady is working too, my brother in Nigeria you just have to cut your clothe according to your size, did you know that some federal government staff on level 8 step 2 salary earn 49k monthlyhuh Example ministry of labour and the worst part is that you can be on that same salary scale for 4 years. Before you term me a liar please do your research or check this for more info. Thanks
https://www.currentschoolnews.com/articles/federal-civil-service-commission-salary-structure/
you are indirectly saying a man who earns 40k's marriage is indirectly dependent on how much his wife to be earns? Yet you say 40k is something?
Oga, weather people are earning 20k per month or not and if you like cut ur cloth anyway u like, 40 is too small for a man to consider marriage with. of course people are doing it. dont sit down and assume they are findin life funny. do we even need to argue about this?

i know there are variations in life, people do different things for different reasons, thats why i think Adeboye telling girls not to marry jobless men is shallow. there is a lot about marriage he should talk about that can guide people decision before marriage, weather the man is jobless or not.
Christianity Etc › Re: Adeboye To Single Ladies: Don’t Marry Jobless Men by frank317: 9:38am On May 06, 2019
Sard:
Listen to yourself, bro. You're contradicting yourself.
Your first opinion made it look as if getting married without a job is okay. But now you said you were earning 80k but couldn't marry because you knew the reality on ground. You knew you won't be able to feed an extra mouth.
So, tell me, if someone who was earning something avoided getting married because it would make things difficult for him, why would someone jobless (and doesn't earn anything) think about marriage? To me, it doesn't make any sense to get married when you're jobless.
By the way, having a job doesn't necessarily mean doing a 9-5 job, it's all about doing something that puts foods on your table. Something you're paid for.
Now u can go back and read my first post, this time not in a hurry.

My main post is that he is preaching the obvious... But I am pointing out that when a lady decides to marry a jobless man, most times she has strong reasons for that.
Nobody like to suffer, but sometimes these decisions are take for specific reasons.

Joblessness should be analyzed. Nigerian economic situation should be talked about, reasons why people marry should be dissected. I mean there is whole lot of topics that can get people thinking in a different direction than telling people not to marry jobless men. Its like coming to the pulpit and preaching that people should eat when they are hungry. Why will somebody not eat when he is hungry is a deeper question here.
Christianity Etc › Re: Adeboye To Single Ladies: Don’t Marry Jobless Men by frank317: 7:38am On May 06, 2019
deltateam:
Its not stale news. If you are living in the society then you would know its contemporary issue.

My mistake was I assumed you were.
U didn't even answer my question,... Why do u think a young girl would marry a lazy man?

Just try to answer and I will tell u what u don't know.
Christianity Etc › Re: Adeboye To Single Ladies: Don’t Marry Jobless Men by frank317: 7:36am On May 06, 2019
justinceejay:
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oga set your priorities right you will see how far 40k can take you.
40k?
What priorities do u want to set right? You people like acting like other people's world is just a theory while urs is real.

A few years ago I was earning 80k... I had aged parents to take care of, siblings who are worst of and need the littlest token from me, my house upkeeps, transport, I needed to look nice... I set my priorities right still I couldn't go into marriage with that because I knew it would be tough.

I worked harder to ensure I earn more than five times above that amount before I got married.

I am sure u don't earn 40k, but u want someone else to set his priorities right and be comfortable with it.

Adeboye should engage his young 'jobless' male congregation and understand what they are going through before asking his ladies to reject them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Adeboye To Single Ladies: Don’t Marry Jobless Men by frank317: 7:29am On May 06, 2019
AntiWailer:
U sound pained ?

Go and get a job first and let that be ur priority.
huh I can't even comprehend why u are so dumb
Christianity Etc › Re: Adeboye To Single Ladies: Don’t Marry Jobless Men by frank317: 10:03pm On May 05, 2019
deltateam:
Yes because it can cause divorce. Its better to call a spade a spade now not a shovel.

Any man that cannot feed his household is worse than an infidel.
Don't think of marrying while jobless. Men should be bread winners and providers at home.

A woman helps out doesn't mean the man should feed off her salary.
Face palm....

And u think this we don't know this? U and Adeboye thinks their members don't know the consequence of marrying a lazy man?

Let me ask u a question... Why do u think some women end up marrying lazy men?

If u answer thoughtfully, then adeboye should also have thought of this before wasting their time with stale news.
Christianity Etc › Re: Adeboye To Single Ladies: Don’t Marry Jobless Men by frank317: 8:48pm On May 05, 2019
deltateam:
Use your brain given by God. Earning #40 000 means you are working if you combine with that of your wife that earns #40000 will make #80000 which can run a home.

He's talking about lazy men that want to marry and feed off their wife.
I know bro, I think telling women not to marry lazy men is stale news. But do u think a man is lazy because he is jobless? Is this really about the job? What about the man? I think this sort of preaching makes women look out for rich men to come marry them... U forget only foolish women will want to marry lazy men... Should thinks be a cause for preaching in the church?

Well, perhaps he already knew majority of his congregation a dumb.
Christianity Etc › Re: Adeboye To Single Ladies: Don’t Marry Jobless Men by frank317: 8:30pm On May 05, 2019
ACE1010:
Thank your stars if you have a job that pays 40k. I know a family that earns far less than that and they very happy.
The problem with some men is that they want hit it big over night. Some of them will even turn down a 100k a month job just because they graduated with 2:1.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a step.
Will u be happy if ur sister brings a man who earns 40k per month home?

There is a reality which we are bound to face and that reality is life and its uncertainties.

There is more to a man than jobless state, and that's what I want Adeboye to reflect in his teaching instead of teaching us what even my 5years old niece would easily know.

Do u know a family might chose a jobless man over a rich working man for some specific reasons?

I think the church is taking us backward... Do they do research, what are they really teaching us? Do they have new information for us?

I hope I am passing my points across sha. I don't want to talk much.
Christianity Etc › Re: Adeboye To Single Ladies: Don’t Marry Jobless Men by frank317: 8:21pm On May 05, 2019
AntiWailer:
So if u are jobless why must u marry right away ?
And why ate u asking me nonsense question. What has my post got to do with this dumb question.
Christianity Etc › Re: Adeboye To Single Ladies: Don’t Marry Jobless Men by frank317: 5:46pm On May 05, 2019
And what has this stale preaching got to benefit anyone?

He sounds as if joblessness is a decision especially in a country like naija. What exactly do we even call joblessness in this country? Do people like being jobless?

Will a man earning 40k a month be regarded as jobless? Can 40k a month take care of the family?

I just think he should step up his preaching and stop giving people advise they already are aware of.

Definition of terms are needed here so that he will not end up sounding like he has ran out of what to preach to some people.
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Lady, Okemzuruoke Drags God On Twitter Over Some Bible Pages by frank317: 6:09pm On May 01, 2019
Darevofpeace:
Few months would definitely tell.
Lol... Carry ur confused Christianity and gerarahia

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