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Darevofpeace:
We shall definitely see the event unfolds someday.

If I get 1kobo for every time I have heard this nonsensical lone, I would sure have been a millionaire by now.

Don't u guys get tired? The world have been existing for thousands of years before u were born. People have come and gone, and u thing God is waiting for when u are born to to unfold himself.

Wake up and smell the coffee, life will only continue to have it's ups and down until u eventually die one day. Nothing will unfold that we have never seen.

Darevofpeace:
To reply you takes all maturity.
I did gave you a matured response, no ass calling and no form of abuse.I could see you are myopic,senseless and so young.
You would soon experience a life threatening predicament and that would determine who God is ?
#BIG FOOL

lol

you are too little for me to talk with... na your god be my mate, bring him let me finish him

you guys only think its only predicaments and suffering the can prove your psychotic God. that tells how foolish you guys can be. I have seen way more predicaments that u can think of.. still ur God remains a piece of shiiiit to me

Darevofpeace:
Do you know who God is ?
how many creator do we got here? So a mortal man that could die with just lack of oxygen now has the audacity to question God.

God does not exist. And if he does I have the audacity to question his foolishness. Isn't that why u should fear and respect me? I give the middle finger and call the God u so much fear a bluff... I think u should worship me for having such boldness.

This is not Bishop Oyedepo nor Pastor Adeboye,this is God of the heaven and the whole earth.

Na only mouth una get. Ur God is not even as useful as my toilet paper. A God that only exists in ur brain and on the pages of a book, is that one God?

She is running low on her destiny battery and extremely bored.
Out of the economic issues and her own personal problem,calling God to questioning is her main predicament at this time of the day.

U wish... Someone is asking the right questions and u are defending a being that does not exist.

Man that is like a flower whose malfunction organ could lead to his death within min.now got the right to ask God questions about the Bible.

Even if man is like flower with malfunctioning organs, he is way better then ur God who can only survive in mans brain. Ur Gos only depends on u to speak for him... U even insult man when u compare him to ur God.

Who among us can sit God Almighty down?
Where was she when the foundation of the earth was been founded?
An ordinary human who can sleep and not be awake in the next day.
She is on her own.

U are God's mouth piece. Ur God lives in ur mouth and head... He created no foundation. Something in ur brain cannot create any foundation of the earth... Ur God needs u to exist and not the other way round. U creates him and thats why his nonexistent ass should be grateful to u.

alBHAGDADI:
When God said you should love your neighbor as you love yourself, how many of those dirty leprous beggars on the streets have you welcomed to live inside your home? There are tonnes of Agberos sleeping under the bridge in Lagos, how many have you given a room under your roof to sleep in? Don't you know that there's a way one has to behave in God's house?

Again, this is not about me. I am not the one claiming to be love itself.
God is discriminating against disabled and u are here asking me useless questions.

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Do you think even the priest in God's temple in those days behaved anyhow in God's house? Go and read Leviticus and Exodus to see the strict rules God gave those priest concerning operating in his house.

Whats ur point? U are just ranting.

Here you are trying to claim God doesn't love those cripples and beggars. Have you forgotten that he designated a portion of tithe to feed them? Have you forgotten how his Son Jesus Christ came and healed them? But simply because he wants things done in a certain way in his house, he has all of sudden become discriminatory.

Isn't this exactly what we are saying? He says I love them and asked that they should be fed, and goes behind and discriminate against them... No wonder Christians are confused.

You better watch your mouth.

U better use ur brain

alBHAGDADI:
Simple as ABC, Hod has the right to state who should come into his house way more than she has the right to prevent leprous people from entering her own house.

Didn't you see where I stated that God remains the same?

It's not about her its about God.

In order words u are saying its okay for God to discriminate against the disabled?

God cannot be saying live ur neighbour as urself and asking humans to give to the helpless and on the other hand is discriminating again thing.

The issue is not about what God has the right to do, its about what God is actually doing. And this we find wrong.

Mchewww, and you couldn't give the number of people that have died skating. U just want to stop them for what exactly... Do u know how many road accidents we get on daily basis? Why have u not advocated that the use of cars should be stopped.
In a country where survival is hard and everyone is frying their best to make something out of nothing.. U are just beefing for no reason exactly.
Some of these youths use this to share flyers, run errands from which they make a living... U are calling it a menace because u don't like it.
Guy go rest.

How did u know? Where u there when the creator was creating the world? What if the creator has a family?

What exactly is the moral of this useless story?

Are trying to prove that Yahweh is a psycho?

MuttleyLaff:
I dont see any brain analogy you made in your post the last two pages past

frank317, I said you brought up first, the issue about brain now, and that I only advanced on you introducing it first, like me noticing that animals dont even have half capabilities of human brain yet they dont entertain, harbour and/or foster the hate for God, like you have. Or do you want to say, you love God, huh?

Frank: how can God give humans brains and not expect them to use it to question perceived inconsistencies from God?

Muttely: even animals have brains

Frank: how can u compare animal brains with humans brains, perhaps u don't understand my point

Muttley: u mentioned brain first , I am only trying to tell u that animals have brains that is not half the capability of human brain yet they don't question inconsistencies

Frank:

Those who dance like me, are considered insane by those like you, who can't hear the music nor understand the beat

That's why we are here... To prove who is actually mad.

frank317, at the end of the day, when everything is taken into consideration, God has the glory, without diminishing any human effort. God is not in competition with any human being frank317.

God is not in competition with humans but he is busy taking glory in a world where man is in charge of his destiny... Ur God should get a job.

frank317, there is only one true and pure religion, that has no fault and that God approves of. God has a great deal to do with our lives

I guess u mean ur religion... Other peoples religion is not pure...lol.

I am glad to see you know that we determine our destiny. Life, frank317, is a journey, not a destination yet, because you determine your destiny by the direction, freewill choices and action you take

We determined our destiny but God takes the glory when we make the right choice... Listen to urself.

I like how you said "almost certain", and leaving the door slightly ajar unclosed. Clever guy.

Yesoooo... I am giving him the chance to prove he exists... That door may soon likely close though.

Do you believe God and/or money are real?

I know money is real.. There is no prove that God is real.

Why would you, how could you say?:
"i havent seen any God to ask any question. I cannot be talking to myself in the name of asking question" sic

Are you really waiting to physically see God, huh?

frank317, have you ever heard the "Let Go of the Branch" story, hmm?

Well, its about a man named Jack, and the story goes that, he was taking an evening stroll, was walking along a steep cliff one day when he accidentally got too close to the edge of the cliff and fell.

On the way stumbling down, he managed to grab a tree branch, which temporarily stopped his fall. He knew to his horror that the canyon fell straight down for more than a thousand feet, so held on tightly to the tree branch. He soon realised that he couldn't hang onto the tree branch forever, and there was no way for him to climb up the steep wall of the cliff. So Jack began yelling for help, hoping that someone above passing by, would hear him and lower a rope or something.

HELP! HELP! Is anyone up there? "HELP!" Jack shouted

He yelled for a long time, but no one heard him. His voice has become hoarse and he was about to give up when he heard a voice, saying, "Jack, Jack. Can you hear me?"

"Yes, yes! I can hear you. I'm down here!" Jack ecstatically answered overpowered by a sudden feeling of relief and emotion

"I can see you, Jack. Are you all right?" the voice asked

"Yes, but who are you, and where are you? Jack answered back

"I am the Lord, Jack. I'm everywhere." the voice said

"The Lord? You mean, GOD?" Jack asked surprisingly

"Yeah, that's Me Jack." the voice confirmed to be God's.

"God, please help me! I promise, if you'll get me down from here, I'll believe you exist, I will stop sinning. I'll be a really good person. I'll serve You for the rest of my life."

"Easy on the promises, Jack. Let's get you off from there first, then we can talk."

"Now, here's what I want you to do Jack. Listen carefully."

"I'll do anything, God. Just tell me what to do."

"Okay Jack. Let go of the branch."

"What?"

"I said, let go of the branch Jack. Just trust Me Jack. Let go Jack"

There was a long silence.

Finally Jack, in the pitch black below freezing point cold dead in the night temperature yelled, "HELP! HELP! IS ANYONE ELSE UP THERE?"

At crack of dawn at the first break of light, the search party came about Jack's dead frozen body found still clutching for dear life to the tree branch. The tragedy and body blow was that when the search party team found Jack's body, his feet were dangling 3 inches from the ground.

I know this story but as a joke... Eventually God allowed him to die? What's with God and this silly faith thingy... His laws seem to be more powerful than him. Despite knowing the man was sure that leaving the branch will kill him, why was it important to him that the man does something that he knows will kill him to save him... I also remember him asking Abraham to kill his son... The God in ur head is insane.

MuttleyLaff:
You brought up first, the issue about brain now, I only advanced on you introducing it, like noticing that animals have brains, but they dont entertain, harbour and/or foster the hate for God you have. Or do you love God, huh?

Brought what first? U obviously missed the point of my brain analogy that's why u are bringing animal brain into it. How can u even compare animal brain with humans just because I said God gave humans brain and not expect them to point out inconsistencies in his dealings?
Does animal brain even have half capabilities of human brain? U guys are just ridiculous.

Your problem is you have all the ready made answers to everything under the sun concerning God but dont understand diddly squat and so you keep on doing the paralogism, in addition to being truculent just for the sake and sound of it.

Lol... Unfortunately u don't even sound like someone who understand the God u created.

frank317, no one is taking the glory when man gets things right after many trial and error, have you forgotten Genesis 3:19, to the effect saying "man will have to work hard and sweat to make things happen", huh?

This is why I say u guys are double mouthed. We have Christians thanking God and giving testimonies after recovering from illness even after being treated in the hospital by man.
Even all the human efforts in Nigeria, during the Ebola epidemic, to reduce the effect got a lot of u all thanking God and giving him the glory.
How is he not taking the glory again?

Life is like a bucket of pearls mixed in with a lot of worthless pebbles. So the onus rests on you to sift through a lot of stuff, pick things up, look at what you've picked up and when you stumble on pearls, then to dust them down, wipe and brush them up, until they bring out the shine, the luster, the sparkle and the light in them to illuminate you and what's around you

Glad u know this...keep it up man. Don't allow religion spoil this mindset. God has not thing to with our life and this quote says it all. We determine our destiny. Thanks.

frank317, please never believe in the existence of God because you have to. The only reason you should believe in God, is because you freewill want to and most importantly, because it is the right and wise thing to do. OK?

Lol...the only reason I should believe in the existence of God is when I can say beyond reasonable doubt that God exists... For I am almost certain he does not exist.

Odiegwu!. Fair dos but you really are biased and not being fair in your observation though

How?

MuttleyLaff:
You are usually the objective one out of the others, why the sudden departure from being objective frank317?

God created humans with brains, same way He created animals with brains and this is what He gets from humans. Ingratitude and unappreciativeness from someone like you and the others. In all your life, I doubt you've ever had a good word to put in for God and now you on top want to tag God has been arrogant.

I havent been trying to explain nothing away, I merely have been following on to comments about "man doing trial and error" done by another poster. I didnt introduce the phrase "man doing trial and error" to the thread.

Thomas Edison famously said: "genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration" and that "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." Stop being disrepectful, saying God is talking trash and making silly promises. Dont you remember what Genesis 1:28 says, huh? Who is meant to be in charge of earth in that verse, huh? Who was given the responsibility to take charge and look after earth in that verse, huh? Who was advised to subdue the earth in that verse, hmm? The ball is in man's court to kick about for 7000 years, after which, every man will give account of the talent(s) handed him/her. Will give account, explain or justify every careless word spoken, thought, deed and action.

are you comparing animal brain with human? hmmm

you guys should take a side already. if man is in charge of this earth, God should leave man run his things and not come out to take the glory when man gets things right after so many trial and error.
Its not even as if this God has been proven to exist... the only God we have been discussing is the one in ur mind.

Dont quote me out of context man.
1/ Have you asked God questions and never got answers?
2/ What questions have you asked God that you got no answers back from?

i havent seen any God to ask any question. I cannot be talking to myself in the name of asking question

MuttleyLaff:
Joe is stupid for not doing a Berean test. God expectantly welcomes testing or checking everything and so, doesnt mind it

The same God who owes man no explanation? How will man check and get the right thing if God answers not questions?

MuttleyLaff:
It's about time both you guys begin to learn that it is God's prerogative to do thinks the way and manner He decides to. He doesn't answer to either of youse. He doesn't own either of youse an explanation for how He lets things happen or not happen on earth. It is why God is God and you and Martinez39 are the prideful, mouthy earthling quick to give the lips

This sounds more like how u think than how any God thinks.

Is this what God told you? You make God sound like an arrogant man. He can't create humans with brains and say he Owes them any explanation even when his actions are so contradictory and unreasonable.

Look you trying to explain away (and doing it badly by the way) how God prefers to watch man do trial and error for thousands of years. Who bears the cost of man's mistakes? Yet he takes the glory for mans success, telllin man he can do nothing without him.

Then when u run out if explanation, u suddenly remember God owes no one any explanation.
Why then is God all over the place in the bible talking trash,making silly promises he can't keep!

jesusjnr:
Wow! Then what a christian you are wanting advocate666 who has already admitted here thanks to my spiritual prowess that he's a fake satanist.

Loooool... Ur spiritual powers? Why don't u join the xmen.

Useless spiritual that u cannot do anything. Na only mouth una get.

shadeyinka:
You guys would always amaze me
First, it's all acting by the man of God who hired his clients
Then I presented Jim Iyke:
It wasn't acting again but the next thing is: find an atheist or a Jew who is demonized
Then I gave you John Sarfran: who is both a Jew and an atheist

Now, you want me to find you another Atheist!

YOU, go to SCOAN and document your experience!

you really amaze me too... the Jim's case u presented is like a mockery to ur case.

JIM's life after delivery shows the delivery was a waste of time... get me an atheist deliverance that shows a significant after and before deliverance life.

Sarfran has been shown to be a joke.

i am sorry both examples are just a mockery to your whole deliverance thingy... that u fail to see this is what amazes me.

sorry, are u sure u are okay?

shadeyinka:
I can see that you are sincere. I can't see any evidence of a new life from Jim Iyke either. But it's not an unusual occurrence.

Why is it not unusual. I think it is unusual. A treatment of common cough shows a difference in behavior, how much more deliverance from spiritual wife who is a great spiritual serpent, and who is a demon... Common.

I used Iyke as an example out of several hundreds I could have used because it solves a major problem of Atheists. If you didn't know the example then you'll say he was a paid actor or a weak willed man. Etc

Using Jim messed up ur case in my opinion. The guys statements afterwards showed TB and his crew wasted his time. There was a show with on reasonable effect.

The will of man is stronger than anything. When a prisoner who doesn't want to be set free is freed anyway, what does he do?
He gets himself into the next available crime and make sure he is caught and sent back to prison.

Any prisoner that does not want to be set free has mental problem. Does Jim have a mental problem? Have u seen anyone with malaria that does not want to be healed?
Its only when it comes to spiritual things that u guys make nonsense out of nonsense.

Does Jim Iyke want to be free from any demon? I doubt it (he is rich, famous and healthy) why should he want to remain free.

Lol...u are funny. So rich and famous people like spiritual demons in them.
Well, u also have a point... Who will follow Jesus and remain poor when he can have a spiritual demon and be rich and famous.
So TB wanted Jim to be poor and unknown?

If I showed you videos of Deliverances leading to a permanent lasting change, would it make a difference?

I can promise you any number you want (on YouTube)

Show me an atheist deliverance that led to a lasting difference in behavior.
It might not change a thing, but after I poke holes and see none, I will admit.

shadeyinka:
The issue is that "that thing" should not be called demon!
We should look for a scientific name!

But that's not my problem. We can call that thing anything...I don't care. The issue is, what is this Thing?

Since you don't have any ready answer, let's hear what the church people say:

Question:
Who are you in this body?
Answer:
I am the spirit wife!
I am the great giant!
I am a snake spirit!
etc etc

We call those things speaking in first person tense: Demon, Evil Spirit, Familier Spirit, Unclean Spirit


You Atheists: Give us the correct scientific explanation of this things you see.

It's amazing that with all our knowledge of psychotherapy, psychology etc this common thing has not been described scientifically. Could it be that our knowledge of science is deliberately selective?

I dont know what it is and can't tell you because I have not done any personal research to find out.

I have given u reason why I ruled out demons yet u keep calling it demons.

If spiritual wife, that is a great giant and a great snake (only am) left Jim's body how come nothing significant changed about him? How come he hasn't told us anything about how it felt like having a spiritual snake leave his body?


I call all that meaningless mumbling. Why are u taking them seriously?

If someone gets cured of malaria, we see the difference instantly... But here we are a whole spiritual with,a spiritual snake, a spiritual giant, a demon, left jim's body and the young man has not gone to appreciate Joshua for a job well done, rather he is trying to forgive the man for embarrassing him, for making him talk nonsense.

Its really difficult thinking u are alright.

shadeyinka:
Let's agree that you prefer to live in stubborn denial.

If Jim wasn't given something to drink nor given something to smoke, he shouldn't behave like that.

It's obvious Something not physical was done to Jim Iyke. This is where the gross limitations of your rule of "physical evidence" break down

Explain what was done to Jim Iyke to cause this if you can!

Something was done to him.. That, we dont know.

we cant keep labeling thing we dont know with stupid names as demons. Yet when sensitive questions as regards to demons are asked u start going round and round

shadeyinka:
@bolded
Please read my post again

Does it look like Jim Iyke have a mental problem?

see question... i have told you i think he is under influence of something, what has this got to do with mental question? mcheww

What demon? I don't know! I wasn't the one who conducted the Deliverance. I don't even know if the demon mentioned its name. You can watch the video again if the demon introduced itself.

oga how did you know Jim was possesed with demons?
is it everyone that behave in a particular was under and influence that we begin to blame it on demons?
good a thing u can answer 'i dont know' when asked a question... just learn to stop giving baseless answers when u dont know

Did I say Jim Iykes demons came back?
I am in no position to say that: I only give you two likelihood
1. Immoral acts, Alcohol drinking and fornication etc are not all demon induced. Any human being can choose to do as he wills
2. Demons can return if the delivered is empty!

what then are u saying?
i am telling you that nothin changed about the young man after the deliverance, and u said demons come back.

i am implying the man was never possessed because there was not change in behaviour after the demons deliverance
you are implying it was demons and he didnt probably change because the demons came back

why exactly do you think he was possessed with demons?

But, you still want to avoid the real issue:
What is the scientific name/explanation for what happened to Jim Iyke!

i dont know... however i can confidently rule out demons because nothing changed about him.

shadeyinka:
Are you insinuating that Jim Iyke is on hard drugs?

And yes, it is possible! But are all those people manifesting their demons during prayers also on drugs?

For your information, at least 50 per service and it cuts across age, gender, nationalities, etc

what sort of question is this? I have told you that I dont really know what TB did to him but have ruled out deliverance or demonic manifestation because nothing changed about him.

you are the one insisting its demons with no basis

what am i supposed to do with the information @bolded

shadeyinka:
How did they know it was a demon?

It's not the first time they have interacted with demons. It's just like asking a medical doctor why a headache isn't migraine.

The demon spoke through him.

Since a demon isn't a physical entity what else do you need? For all the light bulbs to explode and doors burst open at the same time?

People say a lot of things when they are under the influence of something.. Could be call it demons talking?

shadeyinka:
Is it demons that make people drink alcohol, commit fornication etc. Not really at least not all the time!

Which demon abeg People drink alcohol either because they want to get high or are addicted or to escape from immediate problem or just for fun... No one has ever seen any demon making anyone drink... Pls stop embarrassing urself.

The fact that a man is delivered from a particular demon does not mean he cannot live as he wills. It's a choice. Let me explain it to you:

So which demon was Jim delivered from on that day? What's was the effect of this deliverance?

If I went to the hospital to treat my diarrhea but I return home to eat my leftover food from unhygienic pots, plates l, water and kitchen. What would be my state?

Why will anyone do that if they don't have mental issues? What demon was Jim delivered from?

That is why Jesus said: when you chase an unclean spirit out of a person, the spirit will go and come back more strongly if it discovers that the man is empty of God.

Lol... So u therefore assumed Jim's demons came back? What exactly was the harmful effects of this demon on him before the deliverance? Why did TB think he needed it but failed to heal his sick mum?

But the issue isn't this:
The issue is about what is the correct scientific designation for what befell Jim Iyke is! [quote]I don't know, I am sure a proper investigation will reveal.. However for now, I can say his time was wasted.

[quote]Then we can till out the issue of spirits!

I think this is a fair deal.

Why can't we say it was cause by black unicorns?

shadeyinka:
I'm glad we agree on a number of issues such as
1. His consent wasn't sought

His consent does not need to be sought, if he actually had demons in him (assuming demons exist) and the man of God sees it, then its Hus duty to deliver him from the demons. However the man if God ended up wasting his time for nothing... Which makes me wonder what he was actually doing with the mind of the poor actor who needed his sick mum to be healed.

2. He was under an influence (of something you are not sure)

Yes.

Now, while you deny that it is a demon, everyone in scoan thinks it is. Now, for you to over-rule the fact that it's a demon, you have to proceed your own.

What's this? How did they conclude of was demon? Did they see it? Was Jim iyke behaving in a particular was that changed after he was delivered? If someone drinks alcohol and act like a drunk for a while and later becomes sober, can we conclude he has be delivered from demons? How does Jim's actions that day translate to demonic? Since u accept we are not sure what TB did to him, how then did u conclude it was demons... I need u to be a bit smarter here.

If you can't ,then it's a demon!

I think it's just logical.

This makes no sense, can't waste my time resounding meaningless conclusions.

shadeyinka:
No problem! And I agree:
SCOAN needed to be sued for taking advantage of a celebrity without his consent!

They need to be sued for wasting his time.

But, that's not the issue. The issue is
1. What was done to Jim Iyke?

Don't know, what I know is that he was not delivered of anything. Whatever was done to him is not really important since it made no difference in his life.

2. Did Jim Iyke say all those things by force?

No he didn't say those things by force... He was under an influence, something i am not sure of. All I know is that it was capable of making him rant but not capable of making a difference. Total waste of time I think.

3. How come Jim Iyke didn't realize that he was speaking gibberish.? Couldn't he have shut his mouth?

Does it matter? Only TB and his crew knows what they did to him, whatever it was was capable of making him rant but not healing his mother or changing him.

Look for more excuse: you and I know that Jim Iyke was under an influence!

Yes he was, isn't that TB's speciality? Why is this news?

MuttleyLaff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f293WbXD8o
Watch from 4.17- 7.50

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I watched it and it still proves my point..what was the deliverance for? U reliever someone and instead of him giving testimony of how he was delivered, he is talking about how the whole thing made him angry and how he had to let go... Yet his mum died? I really think TB should be sued.

IAmSabrina:
Oh, well. Now isn't that a shock!

Jim was delivered but they couldn't save his poor mom.

SMDH

The bad news is that since after the deliverance Jim has been walking about like his old self. There has been no change in him whatsoever which makes me wonder what the essence of the deliverance was.

They left the poor dying woman and went to deliver Jim who at the end of the day was not delivered... What a huge sick joke

What really is the essence of this thread? To show deliverance is a waste of time?

nepapole:
He looks like leonardo di caprio..... Too much resemblance. Nawa ooo!

Lol...pls Leonardo do caprio is not a kanoyo o kanoyo's junior brotherooo... Pls look up Google and learn who Leonardo is because from this ur statement u dont even know who he is.

Pls people this is 2019... This writeup is so 1999

Martinez39:
What he is trying to do is this:
>STEP 1 : tell you that you believe in something, say X, without evidence but mere belief.
>STEP 2 : tell you that since you believe in X without evidence then it's okay to believe in his god without evidence.
>STEP 3 : therefore his god exists.

Lol... He definitely thinks everyone is stupid

Martinez39:
If something is spiritual and cannot be seen or felt, on what basis would one believe in that thing if not by assumption? I could say there is a spiritual unicorn with a rainbow coloured skin and twelve legs, would you believe that or expect anyone to just because the unicorn is spiritual and can't be tested?

What if what created the universe are simply physical substances that are eternal; have no beginning/origin and they have a property such that certain physical conditions would cause them to explode and yield the big bang? What if such substances are rare and haven’t been discovered and are far away in space beyond our reach? What if these substance had no duplicate elsewhere and can no longer be found since they've been used up in creating our universe? If you think god can exist without begin created then why can't these particles exist without being created?

My point is that a god is not the only possible way our reality could have come to be. Not only that, your god is an illogical and stupid explanation of the origin of things. If it turns out that there is an intelligent mind behind our origin, what makes you think that such intelligent mind would turn out to be the god of the bible?

No one knows how it all began and there is no logical connection between any religious god and the origin of the universe. It's only with assumptions, faith, stupidity, arrogance and ignorance that one would insist one knows how it all came to be; that a god is behind it; that god is the god of one's holy book and one knows his will. If not a must to have all the answers. If you don't know something, admit you don't know. The fact that atheists and scientists don't know how it all began doesn't mean that the bible is correct.

You have to wake up from this nonsense. You are not getting any younger. Is this how you want to live your life believing and devoting so much to something that isn't real and is very stupid? What sound evidences do you have for your god? None. Mtewwwww. Can you show us SOMETHING that doesn't obey natural laws? You can't.

Loooool... Calm down bro. But I really feel u.

@u ain't getting younger, got me cracking

It was not seun that banned u, it was demons from the pit of hell, the ones u are always fighting with remember? They are after u, u need to do 40 days dry fasting and pay ur tithes to lordreed. That's the only way u can be free.

God told you to open ur own church for him and after the long conversation with God u didn't ask him how to go about it but u chose to come to nairaland and ask.

You and God must be joking.