skull4eva:

I am just trusting God for that though sponsor had 65k cads (15k cad personal acct, 50k cad business acct with CAC and all)
My salary account of 3.1m closing balance inflow and out flow of 10m.
How do i go about getting funding from GPD.

You should mail the GPD and your supervisor too. Just a simple mail requesting for financial assistance in the form of funding or assistantships. GPDs know how to get such funds to students, even if it's just a little. In some departments, even Masters students get some funding too.

Be polite in your email and don't appear as if you're begging. Hope you have the contact of the GPD of your department? You never mentioned the department. I'd like to know so that I can also research and explore possibilities for you, if any.

Anon123:


Calm down on the bolded before people start believing this. All students of all schools get their permits as long as their documents are good not just McGill cos I know 5students going there yet to get an AIP. VOs consider schools but dont have preferences.

I don't think I said students from other schools don't get their SPs. I only said McGill students don't usually get their SP applications refused (especially for reasons like purpose of study or intent) and there are specific reasons for this that have nothing to do with the VOs' preferences at all. This statement is based on available statistics but, of course, getting a SP is ultimately a gamble. Just make sure the odds are in your favour.

Slawormir:
Damnnnnn niggarrr
You are not alone son

It happens to every niggarrr

Na post-coital dysphoria

But the degree of that sadness after sex with the woman depends on your closeness, relationship and intension towards her

Doesn't happen to every guy.

skull4eva:

PhD no funding and am using an external co sponsor.

I see. Which department is that? Most departments offer full funding (tuition and living expenses). Did you request for funding from the GPD? The general advice is that one shouldn't do a PhD without some form of funding.

In any case, hope you made your proof of finance tight? That may be the only issue you may have but I would like to think you got that covered.

skull4eva:

Wow thats good Mcgill university?
How many months did it take for you to get AIP?
I applied last month

Approximately 2 months. What programme are you going for at McGill?

McGill students usually get their permits as long as they submit the right documents.

BlegendE:
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yes. Resuming Sepember 3rd online

It seems many Nigerians are not fans of the online lectures. You're an exception to that. I sometimes wonder how many people with AIPs will actually start their studies online.

teminhi:


Thanks

What program and school did you apply to?

GreaterFuture1:
Has anyone here read Myth, Literature and the African World

By Soyinka. I have read it. What about it?

Halifaxguy:
It seems that for MAY applicants there have not been any updates about their applications. I submitted my younger bro application on May 30, but no sort of updates from cic till now. Does it mean that the visa officers handling May applications are on vacation? Can May applicants update us here about the status of their applications?

Not true. Many May applicants have gotten AIP.

NairaLuck:
Good morning guys,
Why do we always choose IOM over Q-LIFE for Medical screening?

They attend to you well and update your medicals faster.

Pee2Jay9:
Processing time is 34 weeks today

This changes at any time. As from next two weeks, once biometrics capturing has fully started, the weeks will reduce.

chichi93:
Hi guys! So I applied for gcms notes on the 5th Via applygcms and it was quite insightful though I can’t explain the meaning of most terms and codes. Received it yesterday.
Timeline:
Reapplied: June 10th
Eligibility passed on gcms: 30th June
Medicals review assigned but not started: 30th June (I submitted upfront and I noticed it has been under review since July 1st. I don’t know why)
Criminality: Passed
Information sharing: Complete, ready to be reviewed.
Original passport request assigned but not started: 30th June
AIP sent: 5th August but I received on 6th
Officers notes: previous refusal noted, rebuttal in SOP noted. Documentation adequately supports proposed study(in my own words). Eligibility passed. Final decision pending biometrics and medical result (even though the application is complete.)

So fingers crossed.

This quickly corroborates the idea that the AIPs issued are actually indicators that the applicants will get their study permits. Those with AIPs who have ordered their GCMS notes so far have passed their eligibility and are only awaiting biometrics and maybe medicals before they get their approvals. I believe that September will come with a lot of PPRs.

Ucy12:
Greetings to y'all Nairalanders! I've been a silent follower of this thread even before joining. You guys are doing a great job here, I must confess.
I need advice from these great experts here, please.

* Second timer for Study Permit (had a rejection last year2019 June ending on 3 grounds of the 216(1) of the IRPR: Purpose of visit, current employment situation, personal assets and financial status). Biometrics was done last year.

* I won two scholarships: one exempts me from paying as an international student: so my fee is 2k+CAD like Canadian citizens; the other is a 5k CAD faculty welcome scholarship I won, to be paid cash upon resumption and registration in Québec.

* My programme is a PhD in Université Laval QUÉBEC. I did my BA in UI Ibadan (2,1) and my Masters in France (2.1 equivalent).

* My sponsor is my brother-in-law ( sitting Registrar of a Federal University here in Nigeria) who gave me a SOA of about 7m Naira balance, and myself (2.6 m Naira balance salary account). I indicated my wife's support (a lecturer) in my SOP but didn't present her as sponsor.

* Repackaged and reapplied online with a strong SOP on July 8th (Eligibility and background checks from the next day July 9) and no updates till now. No AIP, no medical request. My Resumption is August 31st and I'm a bit worried because of time but much hopeful.

Abeg Nairalanders, make una put mouth for this matter. What are my hopes of having the SP this time and what do I do because of the time factor? Already chosen and registered my courses but yet to receive my bills to pay. Just two weeks to go ooo!

NB: I had only the exemption scholarship last year and it was retained after I deferred to this year. I got the additional 5k CAD scholarship this year.
Thank so much for your inputs, Nairalanders. May God bless us all!

I'll advise that you order your GCMS notes immediately to know your current standing.

PhD students seldom have study permit refusals due to purpose of study. In your case, it seems you were unable to show proof of Quebec living expenses of 11,000 CAD per year. Note that at the PhD level, VOs prefer self-sponsorship or scholarship than third party sponsorship. Your brother-in-law is not a strong sponsor. Maybe your wife may be better. Another factor that complicates your application is whether you'll go with your family. If so, you'll need more proof of funds. If not, you have to convince the VO that they'll be catered for. It may help if you list some landed assets that you own or that is owned by your family, immediate or extended.


Until we have your complete profile, we can only guess. You should raise a webform and order your GCMS notes ASAP.

NPDC should have been located in Warri to begin with.

JustMellow:


Hello Fratermathy,

IF "A" or "ANY" decision has been made prior before a final decision, a request for withdrawal won't be acknowledged.

One love

Alright. That's noted then.

JustMellow:


An application a decision has already been made by IRCC can't be withdrew.

A decision hasn't been made in reality. An AIP is not a final decision.

Tonyodg:
I really can’t wait to see how this two stages of approval unfolds... I hope it favours us and we get our study permits

It was approved before he withrew his application. I can imagine how unfortunate the applicant must feel.

ayoadefantastic:
Interesting!
Would you say people with upfront medicals and has been updated to Medical passed, can still be denied?

Upfront medicals being updated to passed doesn't really mean much. Just keep your fingers crossed.

Osemigho:
I just confirmed that not everyone is receiving AIP, through an associate. Some with scholarship in Canada are even rejected. For this reason, I believe AIP candidates are steps ahead. Congrats to y’all!!!

They don't seem to be informing those with rejections about their status. That is why we have a unbalanced view of the situation.

Frankrobbn1:



We all might be speculative in our insights about the trending AIP letter. It's only a GCMS note of an applicant with receipt of an AIP can determine the factual information on whether or not ELIGIBILITY review has been passed by the senior immigration officer at the High Commission of Canada.



As always, it will end in praise.

Some Indians on another platform ordered their GCMS notes and found that they've since scaled through the eligibility hurdle even before AIPs were issued. Others without AIPs ordered their notes and saw that they were rejected as well (although no formal communication has come).

Maybe Nigerians with AIPs can also do the same and order their GCMS notes before they pay tuition. In any case, many universities have extended the refund deadline to late September or even October. This should ease worries on whether tuition would be refunded in the worst case scenario.

martineverest:
okonede is an Edo name.....Esan to be precise

She is actually an Urhobo woman.

milkytins:


This is my first application, so i haven't been denied b4. No health issues and proof of fund will still be intact. The only clause is that I added my family to my application (Wife and 5 yr old daughter). Leaving them behind is not an option.

My supervisor gave me a supporting and convincing letter for VO, stating reasons why I must come and importance of the project to their community. And sincerely, the letter was massive. I did zoom interview, showed him my work by sharing my screen.

Well, I have B.Sc. (FUNAAB), M.Sc. and Ph.D (OAU) in Computer Science. Currently going for Master program in Data Science.

Can I still go ahead and gamble with $12,000?

I personally don't see why you can't go for it. You have some funding (which should normally be enough to take care of tuition). You have an AIP and your profile is very strong! It's a risk that will pay off if you ask me. Howevver, the choice is ultimately yours. No one knows your situation better than yourself.

fehinebony:


Attached is IRCCs latest tweet, it was tweeted a couple of hours ago.

Further information below:

We’ll process complete applications first.

What to do if you can’t provide required documents
Upload a letter of explanation explaining the reasons why you can’t submit the requested documents (such as the letter of acceptance or proof of enrolment).

Your application will not be rejected if you cannot submit the requested documents.

When we start processing your application, we’ll ask for the missing documents and give you an extension to provide the documents, if needed.

How we process applications without all required documents
If you can’t submit a complete application, we’ll process your application in 2 stages.

Stage 1: We check your eligibility
In this stage, an officer reviews your application for

a letter of acceptance from a designated learning institution
a Certificat d'acceptation du Québec (if you’ll be studying in Quebec)
proof that you have enough money for
tuition fees
living expenses for yourself and any family members who come with you to Canada and
return transportation for yourself and any family members who come with you to Canada
any family ties you may have to Canada
evidence that you’ll leave Canada when you no longer have legal status
If your application passes this first stage, we’ll let you know in your online account. This doesn’t guarantee that we’ll approve your application and issue you a study permit.

Our aim is to pass most applications through stage 1 before the fall semester starts.

Stage 2: We check your application for admissibility and any changes to your eligibility
In this stage, an officer reviews your application for

a medical exam, if needed
police certificates, if needed
your biometrics
any information that changed after we reviewed your application for eligibility
If your application passes this second stage, we’ll approve it.

At this point, when current travel restrictions change, you’ll be

ready to travel to Canada and begin your studies, or
able to continue your studies in Canada, if you’ve already started studying online
This 2-stage process will only apply to study permit applications

submitted by September 15, 2020, and
for programs that start, or have started, in spring, summer or fall 2020.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/coronavirus-covid19/students.html#documents

Muslimity:
Thanks a lot for your kind response. Although his admission lettter stated that his program begins Sept 2021, is it advised to take advantage of the current atmosphere of AIP and apply for his study permit right away before IRCC Sept 15 deadline of this new processing method?

AIP is for Fall 2020 applicants alone. He can apply now but they won't prioritise the application.

Frankrobbn1:



I think you're misinterpreting the whole story. No one is stopping anyone from celebrating the receipt of an AIP letter. I'm practically telling you what will likely be expected from IRCC and the uncertainty involved in payment of tuition fees and starting program from home country when you've not been finally approved. Let's not sugarcoat things for people that they end up not seeing the truthfulness of the situation.

I end my comment on this matter. I wish everyone success!



It will end in praise.

Many countries are not asking international students to do their programs online and pay tuition. Those countries won't become 100% broke because of that. The US, for instance, won't suffer for years to come because international students won't be able to commence studies this fall.

Canada had a choice between keeping the international student population and maintaining the safety and health of her citizens and she did both in one fell swoop. The AIP, while not a study permit in itself and not its equivalent, gives the student some assurance of final approval. In fact, after getting the AIP, the student can still decide to defer!

Like TimAke earlier said, we shouldn't rationalise what should be pretty straightforward. Every student knows the risk involved in this and should be willing to take it or not. The decision is ultimately the student's. In any case, the AIP gives you an advantage and as the situation changes in Canada and the rest of the world, those with AIPs will be the first to get their study permits and travel visas!

I believe all the points that should be made on this matter has been made. Those with AIPs can decide what's best for them at this juncture. Good luck to all TRV hopefuls!

Frankrobbn1:


Bear in mind that it's not everyone that can afford to fight through the judicial review route. It's a very cumbersome and time consuming process, which can last upto 7 months or more. The fees involved in hiring a lawyer is very crazy too (5,500CAD to 8,000CAD) and should be enough for the applicant to reapply and make appropriate amendments in the subsequent application. We have all expressed our opinions on the subject matter and it's very informative to have analyzed the entire situation in our possible ways. In the meantime, let's wait for IRCC final decision on the applications.



As always, It will end in praise.

Funny enough, Nigerians won't have to get lawyers to fight the battle. Those from within Canada or the US or the UK will fight the battle should it come to that. There is more to fear from a potentially successful lawsuit than the lawsuit itself. I strongly believe that the IRCC is well informed and prepared to handle this situation.


In any case, we must disagree to agree and the truth of this matter is that IRCC has truly shown good sportsmanship by permitting students to start their programs online from their home countries. The AIPs will douse the anxiety and uncertainty that come with schooling remotely, especially in this pandemic period. I do not see a situation where those with AIPs will regret enrolling for classes whatsoever. Rather, I see a situation where things will be pretty straightforward. There is just too much at stake in this matter.

Let us allow those with AIPs to celebrate their success and start their programs in peace. Those with AIPs are one step ahead of those with nothing. Those with nothing should have something to hope or aspire towards. We shouldn't take that away from people now. Their study permits are near final approval and indeed, they will get approved! The odds will be in their favour!

Frankrobbn1:



IRCC never forced you to pay or register for any online classes. From the AIP letter they mentioned "while you wait for the final decision to be made on your application you may commence your studies online". You failed to read between the lines and the tricks employed by IRCC. They never at one point impose it as a rule on the applicant that they must pay for their fees and begin classes from their home country. Again, payment of tuition fees is also not a requirement in the eligibility review of IRCC Act. So don't think you can sue them for rejecting any application in the second phase of the process. IRCC are smart and intelligent beings and are well-resourced for cases like this that might arise as a result of this update. Trust me, they know what they are doing and will eventually win the case in the long run, i.e if you're suing them on the basis of tuition payment.

Come to think of it, haven't you noticed lately that it's majorly the first time applicants that have been receiving the first stage approval in principle letter? What is the fate of those whose visa was rejected and now reapplied the subsequent time? From my personal standpoint, getting a notification on the AIP letter doesn't guarantee that everyone will receive an approval in the later stage of the Visa process. As a matter of fact, proof of funds and genuineness of LOA doesn't in no way complete the overall eligibility requirements for study permit approval. I'll be here to see how things unfolds in no distant time.



It will end in praise.

IRCC didn't force anyone to pay fees but do not think that those who get AIPs and end up getting rejected without inadmissibility clauses won't resort to immigration lawyers. Whether or not they win the case, they have a right to resort to legal battles. Prior to this time, rejected applications have been upended by immigration lawyers. This situation is a fertile ground for immigration lawyers to thrive should things go south. Don't forget that even Americans, Britons, and foreigners who are visitors or workers in Canada are getting AIPs, not just Nigerians!


Secondly, old applicants are still getting AIPs! Like I said, not all applicants are on Nairaland. I have seen quite a number of complete and second or third time applications getting AIPs. You are basing your opinion on anecdotal data. You have to see the bigger picture and you will, soon enough. There is no way Covid-19 won't affect what we understand about immigration. This argument just proves that there are interesting days ahead...

Again, may the odds forever be in our favour!

Also for Indian applicants but may be relevant to Nigerians too:


*Source:- IRCC Delhi*
7th August webinar by IRCC

1. Getting a stage 2 refusal is very low to none
2. no issues in deferment even after getting AIP
3. You can start the online classes without having AIP and that time will be counted for PGWP.
4. You cant enter canada even if you have a POE stating your presence is needed with a visa issued after 18th march.
5. If you have submitted your file in SDS category without upfront medicals then it will be shifted to non SDS
6. all of the semesters divided by half is your 50%.
7. even if you have complete application with biometrics you will still be issued AIP.
8. you can said the new Loa Via ircc web form.
9. even the evacuated staff are working towards the issuance of AIP's no ETA.
10. even if you give biometrics outside of India it still falls under the 2stage process..
11. you can submit your passport if the vac's outside of india is functioning (if you have given the bio metrics there) for getting a physical visa.
12. if stage 1 approval is denied you can reapply using the same LOA provided its for the future sem or the current one.
13.despite any internet connectivity issues and a stong poe with a visa issued after march 18th you still cant go. but if you have got before 18th march it depends on the border officer.
14. SDS, non SDS all timelines are same but the priority is given to the students who have differed to the current sem(fall intake).
15. for the financial you have to show how you are gonna pay for the 1st year and also how you are going to pay for the 2nd year. if you have a loan you can show that and show how you got the funds applies for SDS as well. you need to show how youbare going to support yourself for 2 years (excluding part time).
16. IRCC wont give you authorization letter to board. All you need is to board a plane is..
• your passport
• your visa before 18th
• why your presence is needed (documentation)
17. you can work full time while attending online classes (remote) provided you devote yourself to education.
18. you can apply for winter ASAP. ( for jan students)
19. if travel restrictions are lifted and if you have a visa you can travel to Canada even if its online.
20. IRCC doesn't accept any online english tests. it will accept only IELTS, TOFEL and PTE.
21. in medicals the IRCC mainly looks for TB and if they suspect you will be called for further testing and be prescribed meds and will be checked again after 18 weeks.
22. SOP's are not mandatory but they are beneficial to you it makes or breaks your approval.
23. dependent visa are also being processed along with student visa provided the cine through as a family group
24. given the situation they may accept IELTS general test if they need more they will send you mail asking for more.
25. if you have your medicals expired then they will review it and if they need more they will send you a mail if you have to redo it.

Frankrobbn1:



You've made a good point bro, we have a right to express our opinion and also the responsibility to believe whatever we think is right. I have shared my perspective based on my working knowledge about IRCC latest update and what people may potentially see in front. The twists and turns of IRCC updates which kept on changing is for the betterment of their economy's recovery amidst the novel Corona virus pandemic. IRCC may not dish out approvals in massive numbers in the later stage as it is observed in the first stage. I can tell you for sure that no applicant's overall ELIGIBILITY has been passed until the completeness of the application has been received. Above all else, a GCMS note will confirm the provenance of this information. To this end, I may not go back and forth on the subject matter but will watch and see the next step of action that will be taken by IRCC afterwards.





It will end in praise.

Just as a caveat:

Complete applications still get the AIP because VACs are closed. There are quite a number of persons with complete applications that received the AIP. If your opinion about overall eligibility is to be contextualised here, then it will fail woefully in accounting for why otherwise fully eligible applicants are getting AIPs! The reason is simple: VACs are not open for biometrics and visa stamping. The AIPs for "incomplete" applications and for the complete ones are on the same pedestal but one is simply ahead of the other.

In any case, we are not VOs or IRCC staff so whatever we say here are simply opinions. May the odds forever be in our favour.

TimAke:
I believe all we can do for now is keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best as usual. Few weeks ago we were all in the dark as to what was happening due to the long silence but now there seem to be some hope with this new process and we’ve began another round of rationalising.

Passing through stage 1 which includes a successfully verified POF and home ties isn’t an easy feat, applications have been rejected in the past based on issues from these.

To all those awaiting feedback, we also hope and pray for a positive news soon too. All the best.

Don't forget the medical requests too. The conventional procedure is to get a medical request if you've scaled through the eligibility hurdle. Almost everyone who has gotten the AIP has either gotten or will get the medical request. A medical request is not needed if your application is bound for rejection.