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SeraphEl:Put your arrogance aside. What spirit of Elijah is pushing you to insult a child of God and call him a fool in direct disobedience to the scriptures? Are you bigger than the Bible? While I would admit that I might be in error to have used the term "Abolish" since the Lord Jesus indeed said He didn't come to abolish the law but to fulfil it, that does not negate other parts of scripture that says the law was done away with (Eph. 2:15, Heb. 7: . I'll personally do a comparative study of the English and Greek Bible to fully understand the messages God is passing across.I simply asked you to create a thread and not derail the current thread, you returned here with arrogance and puffed up boasting. In what way have I insulted you? |
SeraphEl:When I replied you, did I insult you? What are the insults all about? People like you are the ones giving Christianity a bad name. You're a reproach to the Kingdom of God. |
AbuTwins:It is clear you are very ignorant. I have given you kindergarten explanations, yet you're asking childish questions. There's one Holy Spirit, and this one Holy Spirit is the Spirit of both Father and Son. This same Holy Spirit indwells all believers who become born again. There are many scriptures that makes this position clear. I'll give you one. Here below is a scripture that speaks about the prophets of the old testament who prophesied about the coming of the Messiah and His sufferings: 1 Peter 1:10-11 "Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care, trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when he predicted the sufferings of the Messiah and the glories that would follow." Notice that the Spirit of God through whom the prophets prophesied is also called the Spirit of Christ. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and the Son. There are no two Holy Spirits, just let that sink. Whatever the Father knows, the Spirit knows. Whatever the Son knows, the Spirit knows. God gives birth by what process? Through Mary right?That's why it is unnecessary to discuss doctrines with an unbeliever. Jesus came from the Father purposely to die on the cross. Nothing more. We today are the children of Jesus who He has begotten through His Word. Isaiah prophesied thus about Jesus in 53:10: "But it was the LORD’s good plan to crush him and cause him grief. Yet when his life is made an offering for sin, he will have many descendants. He will enjoy a long life, and the LORD’s good plan will prosper in his hand." You know when the Jews were asking Mohammed what the spirit is, neither him nor Allah had an answer. So, I'll excuse you for asking why the Spirit didn't progenate. These are deeply spiritual things that your mind cannot fathom. They're beyond you. You need some basic understanding of God to understand these things. Jesus didn't come to earth to progenate, He came to die for sins. Through His death for sins, He begets spiritual children. We believers are all the children of God in Christ Jesus. "For you are all children of God through faith in Christ Jesus." - Galatians 3:26 This analogy is false and illogical!This is a bland statement. You should debunk the falsehood and state the illogicality. In the Qur'an Jesus is the the created Spirit from Allah! He was created by the Word of Allah "Be" and "he is".Whose Spirit is the said created Spirit? A spirit has a source. Spirits don't get created out of nothing. Spirits are not created out of clay or physical substances, they're transferred or sourced. Whose Word is that word? The Bible says the Word Became Flesh. The same thing you do to the Bible is what you are implying in the Qur'an!I haven't done any exegesis for you. I'm just clarifying your ignorance. The title of the thread is which Bible Verse Proves That The Spirit Is God Omniscient?The question is absolutely a wrong question to ask because God is is Spirit. You should rather ask what Bible verse says that God is omniscient. You're asking about the Spirit of God as though the Spirit of God is not God Himself. So your analogy explaining trinity (with human body, soul and spirit) is illogical!Bland! State what's illogical about it. If you can't comprehend what was said, I'll still break it down further for you. If God became man then he becomes limited!Jesus is a human extension of the Godhead. A God man who came to die for man as a man while also showing man how to relate with God as men. When I say Jesus, while He was physically on earth was God in His Spirit but man in His body, what do.you understand by that? He was the Divine playing a human role in the world to solve man's problems of sin and disconnection from God. That's why He's the Messiah. |
AbuTwins:That's with the understanding that the Father is one with His Spirit. Let me explain better. The Holy Spirit is both the Spirit of the Father and of the Son. They share the same Spirit. You'll begin to understand their oneness from here. But still, the Spirit has His own office and can operate independently of the two. So, if the Father knows, the Spirit knows too. If the Son knows, the Spirit knows too. This is your own eisegesis. Jesus didn't say he didn't know something as a man!First, when a dog gives birth, it gives birth to a dog, isn't it? When a man gives birth, he gives birth to a man, is that not? When God gives birth, He gives birth to God. Clarified? Even in your quran, you can see that only Jesus has these trinitarian attributes: Jesus Christ is the Spirit of Allah. He is the Word of Allah. He is also a Human Messenger of Allah. That tells you that Jesus wasn't a mere man even according to your Quran. You still haven't quote one single verse from your Bible from Jesus?To support what? This example is faulty as body, soul and spirit can not be separated with each functioning as a entity! That's the difference between God and man. Man's body and soul cannot be separated with each functioning as an entity but God is not limited by man's limitations. This is a Creedal believe that is not Biblical!Already explained above. |
AbuTwins:It's not doctrinal. It's a clarification. I've discussed it already except you're unable to understand what I said. Did Jesus say that neither the Holy Spirit knows? Jesus didn't know as a man. But God knows, and God is Spirit. God is Spirit. God and His Spirit are inseparable but they can operate independently. Take for example; Someone in the occult has his spirit. He and his spirit are inseparable but he can do astral projection by going into a far country for a meeting with his spirit while his body remains at home in the bed. May God give you understanding. |
AbuTwins:Lol. God and His Holy Spirit are inseparable. Can anyone separate Abutwins from his spirit? The Father and His Spirit are one. Just as Abutwins and his spirit are one. Whatever the Father knows, the Spirit also knows. |
AbuTwins:No, you didn't bring any evidence. You can't use the Quran to prove that Allah is not Baal. We don't expect the Quran to expose itself like that. Allah is Baal, see attached screenshots again. But a disbeliever in Islam has the right to claim that Islam was renamed as Baal? You have no business in that too if you can't talk about trinity. Is that not foolish bigotry and hypocrisy?These are unrelated scenarios. I've discussed Bible with you extensively and have also quoted scriptures. You can't use my refusal to discuss Trinity with you as an unbalanced conclusion? Why do most Muslims behave like this? We're talking about how Baal workshop came to be known as Islam, you're comparing that to the doctrinal topic of trinity. How are they related? Haven't I discussed other Christian topics with you that are not doctrinal? Or is the history of Baal to Islam transition doctrinal? Check the background i wrote in the threads i tagged you. You don't read that's why you fail exams!I've answered all your questions except doctrinal questions. The divinity of Jesus, the claim of trinity and the Godship of the Holy Spirit are all core doctrines of Christianity!But you only asked me about the Trinity doctrine. Why did you lie that I refused to answer the other 2? Listen, if you don't believe that Jesus is the Son of God, how would you understand the Trinity doctrine? I'll rather discuss the Sonship of Jesus with you than discuss the Trinity which far above your understanding. Someone who does not understand the Sonship of Christ wants to start dabbling into the Trinity of God. Is that not hilarious? So what right do you have to discuss anything about Islam?See, I'm already where I'm supposed to be eternally - in Christ. I'm not on my way to anywhere. I'm in Christ and would Forever be in Christ. You should consider the lies and the deception you are clinging onto. If they didn't brainwash you, you would never have taken such a character as Mohammed for a prophet. The lies in the Quran are so obvious but indoctrination and brainwashing from childhood won't allow you see the lies. Your Islam lied that Jesus didn't die, someone else died in His stead. If that's true, who was that someone who died in His stead? No answer! Someone died in Christ's stead, yet the person has no grave. Maybe you don't know that if Christ didn't die, then the whole plan of God's salvation is defeated. You don't seem to see that Islam was created by Satan to deny you of the benefits of Christ's death and His resurrection. Your mohammed himself, while dying told you he doesn't know his own fate. You are inconsequential. You can never know who's on his way to hell. If Allah can cast people to hell, he'll never order unbelievers to be killed! The true God waits long for unbelievers to come to Him until they die. Afterwards, He'll cast them to hell. He doesn't kill them when they still have long years to live and a lot of opportunities to repent. But Satan, Allah orders unbelievers to be killed because he has no power to cast anyone to hell.
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AbuTwins:You're sounding really incoherent. You couldn't even point to a single lie I told. You have been unable to intelligently debunk any of the Islamic deceits I exposed.Did you research anything from the Qur'an before you bring forth lies that Allah was Ba'al?Yes, I did. That's why I didn't ask you irrelevant questions. Talk about the false trinity you can't!If you want to know my stand about this issue, I have spoken on it extensively on this forum in the past. Go and read my discourse with fellow Christians on that. I have no business discussing Trinity with an unbeliever. Talk about the divinity of Christ you can't!You never even once raised any discussion along this line. Why are you lying? Talk about the how the holy spirit was made equal to the father! You can't!Why are you lying Abutwins? We never touched on any such topic as this! The core Christian doctrines that are unfounded in the Bible and dubiously interpreted twhrough eisegesis and debates in the first 500 years after Jesus!Every doctrine I hold dear in the scriptures are all biblical and scriptural sound. You think I would joke with my life holding on to lies and being loyal to a false prophet at the detriment of my soul as you do? If you don't value your eternity, I value mine. I know the consequences of falsehood and of serving the wrong God. I would never allow any false religion to drag my soul to hell. That's unlike you who would see the obvious lies and deception of your religion and yet hold on to it out of mere loyalty to a dead Mohammed. |
AbuTwins:You see the reason why I can't discuss Bible doctrines with you? The question you're asking has neither head nor tail because you obviously don't understand what Jesus meant when He said He had come to fulfil the law. Should I then start taking you to the fundamentals? Go and research first. The term 'fulfilling the law' is very broad, and your question does not correlate to the matter at hand. |
AbuTwins:No, the preface you added earlier didn't say KJV added the verse dubiously. I still don't understand why you always like to divert and deflect!This isn't a diversion. I need to keep some comparative analogy of both the Bible and the Quran so that you can spot the difference. Why can't you discuss it?I can discuss the Bible but not Bible doctrines with an unbeliever. Discussing Bible doctrines with someone who doesn't know God is fruitless. It leads to endless arguments that bear no fruits. You don't believe what I believe, so why should I drag you into the deeper things of my faith? I can discuss the Quran but not Islamic doctrines. Learn to spot the difference. |
AbuTwins:Jesus came to fulfil the law. The Bible says Love is the fulfillment of the law: "Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law." Romans 13:10. Jesus summarized all the law into the Royal LAW; to love God with all one's heart, and do love one's neighbors as oneself. Those are the two laws Jesus brought, and He said: "On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets." Mathew 22:40. When you walk in love, you can't break any law. That's why Love is the fulfillment of all commandments. By introducing the law of Love, Jesus fulfilled the law. Therefore, we are enjoined as follows: "Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. 8 Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. 9 In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only Son into the world, so that we might live through him." 1 John 4:7-21 |
AbuTwins:The verse I quoted for you is not dubious. It's in the original manuscripts. No verse was dubiously added to KJV. Don't get so agitated. Examine your Quran well. Your eternity depends on this advice. I won't discuss the Trinity topic with an unbeliever. It's irrelevant to you. Let it suffice you to know that we serve only one God and not three Gods. Leave Christian doctrines for Christians okay? Are you agitated because I exposed the fraud in the Quran? Pity your soul and open your eyes to the truth! |
SeraphEl:Please create a thread for this topic and don't derail the thread. I have treated this issue severally on this forum with overwhelming scriptural backing. Please go and study your Bible. The scriptures say the Old Testament was abolished. Who are you to say they're not? Create a thread or go through my discourse on this forum and counter me if you're not convinced by the scriptural references and exegesis. |
AbuTwins:What problems do you have with the texts? Even the King James version has been revised continually to bring it at par with the Greek texts. We Christians understand that Translators are human and are therefore susceptible to errors. So, we study the Bible by comparing different versions of scriptures to get a clear understanding of each portion of scripture we're studying. For instance, when a pastor is studying his Bible or developing Bible study notes, he does so with several versions on his table. As a result, human errors are minimized during studies and we're able to get the full picture of what the portions of scripture are saying. While the publishers are truthful enough to let readers know the flaws in their translations because they want the readers to have the true Word of God, in Islam, the reverse is the case. Each publisher defends lies with more lies. They even deliberately mistranslate Arabic texts to mean something different when it derogates Allah. For instance, Al-makr which all Arabic dictionaries give its meaning as 'deception' is translated 'planner' by many mischievous publishers because they don't want to say exactly what the Quran 3:54 says "...Allah is the best of deceivers." You should commend Bible publishers for their honesty. Christianity is not here to deceive anyone. |
AbuTwins:He is not dealing differently with His sons. I told you Israel is included in God's Father dealings with the world. God deals with everyone now as a Father, including Israel. Don't get confused please. |
AbuTwins:God doesn't change. The Old Testament is God's dealings with Israel as a nation. The New Testament is God's dealings with the whole world. God is the same. But the method He used in governing Israel is different from the method He is using in relating with the world. |
AbuTwins:As the Theocratic King of Israel, those laws were for National Constitution. God relates with the world as a A Father and not as a Theocratic King as He did with Israel. As the Father God that He is, the laws are not applicable to us. Infact God abolished those laws when He shifted His focus from Israel to the whole world. God relates with us as a Father. Embrace Him as a son. Even Israel who was once under God's Theocrstuc rule is included in the current Fatherly relationship of God. |
AbuTwins:Women suffer pains as a result of the curse which God gave as a punishment for disobedience in the garden of Eden. Man's punishment was for his to toil hard before he gets food to eat. The church that took a stance against women taking anaesthesia during childbirth were simply ignorant. All the laws you quoted are the constitutions God gave Israel for use in national administration and governance. It has nothing to do with religion or Christianity. The problem with you guys is that you cannot differentiate between God's theocratic dealings with Israel as a nation from God's dealings with the world as a Father. |
AbuTwins:1. The scripture in Revelation is talking about a future time when Jesus would return to the earth as a Judge. This is corroborated by a verse in your Islamic books: "The Hadith of Abu Hurariah (Sahih Bukhari 4:55:657) says, “… surely (Jesus), the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind…" Don't be deceived, Jesus is coming to judge all unrighteousness. 2. The scripture on "Do not assume that I have come to bring peace..." You should quote the chapter in full to see that Jesus was prophesying about how families and friends who do not know God would persecute those who give their lives to Christ. In John 16:2, Jesus said to us: "In fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God." Look around you, it is already happening today. If you want to test the fulfilment of that prophecy, you can go and tell your Muslim family that you are now a Christian. If they don't behead you, then, you should thank God. You would definitely suffer for becoming a Christian. The peace would leave your family because darkness hates light, and when light shines, darkness is disturbed and must therefore fight back. Take Jesus and His cross out of the world today, Boko haram, ISIS, Al-qaeda, and all the terrorist organizations would disappear. Peace is taken because Satan must attack light. There's a constant war being waged by the kingdom of darkness against the kingdom of light. May God open your eyes. |
HISSCRIBE1995:Absolutely correct. Allah is a liar (The best of l-mākirīna: the best of deceivers). Mohammed was a liar who said camel urine cures all diseases. Why would Muslims not lie? |
AbuTwins:That one is a Charlatan. A fake prophet. |
shoodboi2:If he shouted Alahu akbar while perpetrating the crime, then he would be tagged a Muslim terrorist. Did the man shout halleluyah when commiting the crime to make anyone tag him religiously? |
AbuTwins:Is he not a Muslim cleric? Are you not a Muslim? Is he not one of your Muslim clerics? Why do you want to deny him? Is it because you're ashamed of the moon and star symbol by his image? |
AbuTwins:You're a liar my friend. I said 'one of your alfas' meaning one of the Muslim alfas. You denied him and said he's not your Alfa. I asked you if you have your own special Alfa, your retorted to insults. You're the one who's ignorant and of low IQ. |
AbuTwins:You denied the alfa who was posing with a symbol of the the moon and star. You said he's not your Alfa as though he's not a Muslim. Do you have your own personal Alfa who does not use the moon and star as a symbol? I ask again. You're the one who has been lying. |
Antiislaam:It's a demonic baptism. |
Antiislaam:It's a demonic motivation. The demon would induce an emotion of anger in them which would blind them from the truth you're showing them. You know, when you're angry, you'll hardly see the real picture until your anger is abated. It's a demonic tactic from hell to keep them in perpetual bondage. |
AbuTwins:Lol. So, you have a personal Alfa who doesn't have or use a moon and star symbol? Why are you getting so agitated? |
Antiislaam:I tell you bro. That's their tactic. The moment the start throwing insults, I begin to ignore them. |
AbuTwins:What are your symbols, care to share? We see, moon and star on almost every mosque. What are they doing there? This is even one of your alfas who sent me his pictures of recent.
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AbuTwins:Look here, I have many verses for the Trinity doctrine but the issue of the Trinity is not within your boundary. Stick to your Islamic doctrines and let christians discuss their doctrines amongst themselves. I'll discuss any historical facts related to the Bible with you. If you want to know more about Jesus as a person, then I'll share that with you too. If you want clarifications for historical differences between the Bible and the Quran, I'll be obliged as well. As long as I'll not argue Islamic doctrines with a Muslim, no Muslim should come and be arguing bible doctrines. Your Quran is a dubious book in its entirety yet you cling to it and call a biblical verse dubious because you reject what it says? |
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. I'll personally do a comparative study of the English and Greek Bible to fully understand the messages God is passing across.
If God gives birth to Jesus then Who gave birth to the Spirit? And why is Jesus and the Spirit barren? If God can give birth to Jesus why can't they too give birth like God?