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EmmyBiggy:
Is God partial ? Why are some too intelligent and some dullard and the bible made us to know that God created everybody equal ?

I don't think all were created equal. Some are born with golden spoons while others nor even see spoon as there born dem, that's proof that all were not born equal. Even bible sef say: He gave some 5 talents, some 2, and some only 1.

This life nor balance.

sonmvayina:
Experience, I tried it when I was younger and deep inside me I knew I had done something wrong.my conscience kept judging me..so I desist from doing it again ...I am talking about fornication . as for adultery, I no fit do that kind thing..another man wife, wey e don pay bride price and them don pour drink from ground..my custom and tradition forbids it....it leads to death or madness.
Then idolatry means worshipping anything other than the creator or going through any God to get to him..and the only way to worship our creator is to obey his natural and spiritual laws..

So what of those who tried it and their conscience never judged them?
Why is your custom and tradition a standard for other people to follow?

sonmvayina:
God NEVER approved or ORDERED IT...That is my point..it is not needed, it is Not GODS idea from the Jewish Tanakh, the same way you dismiss Mohammed as a fraud, is the same way jesus is a fraud..it was created by the romans/Greeks. They added it at the end of the Jewish to deceive ..just as you claim Mohammed is a deceiver...

Which God are you talking about here? and how do you know what he approved or what he didn't?
Moses never existed according to you( and probably Abraham too), so who made this God known to the jews and to you?
Why should we take this Jewish God seriously? Besides this Jewish Yahweh you are talking about behaves like a human. He is a character the ancient jews could relate to as a God. In other words, the ancient jews were indirectly worshipping a Humanlike Emperor Warlord.
You yourself agreed the book is a fairy tale, if the book is a fairy tale, isn't Yahweh a fairy tale? and if Yahweh is a fairy tale, why should we listen to him on who or whom not to worship?

sonmvayina:
" How is Do not commit adultery a fairy tale?..I said, I read them and learn from them..it is like a lamp for my journey..Not worship the characters in them..like you are doing.the creator does not need a son, he is omnipresent and all knowing and all powerful...

Do you understand now?

If you have the freedom to do what you want with the so called fairy tales of the Jewish Bible, then why can't others do what they want with the so called fairy tales of the Christian Bible? Perhaps they worship fairy tale jesus (so called) rather than fairy tale Yahweh ( so called). Perhaps the character of jesus is given to them as a benchmark for the character of God.
Have you seen God before? I'm sure not. If you haven't seen God before and cannot see or understand God, then you have to start from somewhere. You start from what you can relate to, the jews had a humanlike Yahweh with human characters in their fairy tale, perhaps the Christian chose the jesus character to represent God instead and not the Yahweh character.

sonmvayina:
Only difference, yours is a fairy tale...mine is practicable..yours give false hope..

See wahala, but you just admitted the old testament is a fairy tale too nah. Is it a practicable fairy tale?

adsan:
I hope you mean You only need one language to write U.i and logic code and not actually write U.i and Logic code in one file . Hahahahah
Flutter and Google Cloud is a match made in heaven for Web and mobile dev.
Not a lot of jobs in Nigeria at the moment for Flutter, but seeing how Flutter is growing in the
on developed countries,( there are a lot of flutter mid level Dev jobs over there), I will expect developing countries outsourcing engineers to change their tech stack soon. It happened with React and Kotlin, I strongly bet it will happen with Flutter.

What I mean is, the U.I and backend code can be written side by side all in same language. Yeah not necessarily in one file.

sonmvayina:
But Isaiah already told you that Gods servant is Israel, are you trying to disprove God ? Serveral times God ,God called Israel his servant...

Except you are saying God lied, then we will debate on that...is it?

Why do you keep saying thesame thing over and over again. We've been through this before, and when I present the facts to you, you run away only to sprout thesame falsehood over and over again.

There are different servants in Isaiah, not just Israel. The servant in Isaiah 49v3-6 for instance cannot logically be Isreal but a human being. Also you have failed to show how the particular servant in chapter 53 is Isreal and not a human being. Go ask your Rabbis to clarify these things for you, then come back.

I love flutter because I can combine both the front end and backend logic in one file using only Dart. No need to link my code to XML or Html and Css for websites.

sonmvayina:
For one it reduces trust among couples...I know how I felt when I heard somebody slept with my girl friend those days..people lost their lives because they toasted the girl friends of cult members in uniben when I was still a student there...so you can imagine the grief their family will face...so from experience it does not go well in the society..

But in the Spartan Society, it wasn't a problem.

sonmvayina:
You don't understand it do you ? It says nobody will teach anybody..not jesus not Paul , he will write it in your heart..so it comes to you naturally..nobody will teach you not to sleep with another mans wife, you will know it is wrong and avoid it,no matter how enticing it is...

Got it now, neither jesus nor Paul is needed...

1 John 4 says:
You need not that any man teach you, for the anointing teaches you all things.
That is the new testament.

sonmvayina:
It was written down for people like you(no offence) who can't tell right from wrong. For those of us who are fully conscious it comes to us naturally .it is part of our nature...see what Jeremiah wrote in chapter 31:

Jer 31:31-37 in Christian versions
Jer 31:30 "Behold, the days come, saith YHWH, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah;
31 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; forasmuch as they broke My covenant, although I was a master over them, saith YHWH.
32 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith YHWH, I will put My Torah in their inward parts, and in their heart will I write it; and I will be their Elohim, and they shall be My people;
33 and they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying: 'Know YHWH'; for they shall all know Me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith YHWH; for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin will I remember no more.
34 Thus saith YHWH, Who giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, who stirreth up the sea, that the waves thereof roar, YHWH of hosts is His name:
35 If these ordinances depart from before Me, saith YHWH, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before Me for ever.
36 Thus saith YHWH: If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, then will I also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith YHWH.

No One Will Teach Another to Know the Most High, everyone will know Him.

This is exactly what the new testament teaches, so I don't think Christians have a problem with this arguement. It is you who keep speaking about God giving laws and stuff like that.
That passage of Jeremiah was quoted by Jesus in John 6, and also by paul in the epistles.
That is what is meant by new covenant ( new testament). It was derived from that passage.

sonmvayina:
It is in born..and experience too. I don't need to read it in a book, before I know I have to honour and respect my parents and elders..Before the white man came with their bible that says "honour your father and mother " we used to kneel down to greet our parents every morning and always go any erand for them and don't talk when they are talking...the Yoruba's used to postrate...so it is part of our OS that God installed in us when he created us.

You are contradicting yourself. If it is inborn, then why did your Jewish God give the laws then? In New testament christianity, Paul also says it is inborn. So you agree with paul here, but in another breath you say that God had to give laws that must be obeyed.

sonmvayina:
Who asked you to follow Jesus?

God only gave you laws to follow to have a meaning ful life. End of the day we are all spiritual beings having a human experience, when we die we go back being spirits.. Default settings.. And become part of God..

How do you know this? @ the bolded.

When hunger mama you ehn?

Kobojunkie:
A gift poured out on ALL MEN? Since the Spirit of God is the seal of the New Covenant that is Jesus Christ, are you suggesting that ALL men are then born of the Spirit and into the New Covenant?

Also, ascribing His works to Beelzebub? Denying Him or speaking against Him?

To be honest, I don't understand this post.
But then if you have a counter point, why not clearly state it like I have stated mine, so I know what your standpoint is on the issue.
Only then can the discussion become clear to me.

Kobojunkie:
Wrong! Learn to listen to what Jesus Christ said and not make up your own truths. Jesus Christ said nothing about the sin being against or about power. Why not take Him, Jesus Christ, at His word?

And what do you think makes this sin unforgivable, when God said that so long as you ask for forgiveness, HE, God, IS WILLING AND ABLE TO FORGIVE YOU ALL YOUR SINS?

The Spirit of God is the promise of the father, the gift poured out on all men. Denying him or speaking against him by ascribing his works to Belzeebub is going against the very power of God within ( the spirit of grace and truth). This is usually a sin committed by those who know the spirit of truth already but backside willfully or deny the truth by ascribing his works to Belzeebub.

The Holyspirit is the power of God within you. Wilfully denying this power within, which is God's best gift to the world since the coming of christ is the unforgivable sin. Because how then can God help you?

AkinwaleJJ:
God commanded the Israelites to undergo more stringent initiation!
What do you think when Moses was raining curses and all the people were saying "Amen"? Deuteronomy 27:12-26

That fella doesn't even know what he believes. He uses the fallacy of special pleading for the old testament, always defending the passages of the old testament and would want to interpret everything there in different ways, but is not consistent when it comes to the new testament.
He cannot answer your question, don't expect a reasonable answer to that particular question from him.

Kobojunkie:
You are right! I have no real kinship with anyone, except Jesus Christ. My one and only business in all of this is Jesus Christ and what He commands of me. Everything else, including the opinions of ordinary men, opinions not verified by the word of God Himself, is meaningless!

What do you call the word of God? are they just the gospels, or do they include the Torah as well? Note that I am not disagreeing with you, I'm just curious.

sonmvayina:
Post it let everybody see it..

The guy above has quoted it and you can interprete it as you wish, but let me ask you this:
Is John 18 ( manuscript of John's gospel) dated 125 A.D, also from Serapis? I am not saying you should be a Christian, but bring in reasonable criticism with facts.

sonmvayina:
They wrote about the worshipers of serapis Christus ...they are also called chrestians....

Not any Jewish teacher, or son of god mumbo jumbo...

My man stop disgracing yourself on a public forum. I would share the quote of Tacticus and allow people to judge for themselves.
Also the manuscripts of John's Gospel in the new testament( dated 125 AD) are they also from Serapis?

sonmvayina:
Lol...how come nobody knew him ,before the romans and greek created him in 325AD?..so much for blue print..

Stop saying what you don't know. Roman Historian Tacticus wrote in 110 A.D about Christians revering a certain jesus. What about the manuscripts of the new testament bible found before 325? and all the church fathers before 325? If you are gonna present something on a public forum, at least get your facts straight.

sonmvayina:
Most of the so called Christians here are just comfortable being ignorance. The others are just trying to put up a fight because for them it is difficult to accept the fact that they have wasted their whole life and resources over a lie..so they still hold on to the illusion..

Sooner or later,you all will wake up from the white mans brain washing..till them ,continue to be a sheep and mugu...how else will a guy man chop.

God needed a son because he loved the world so much and was in search of a man.

You are my son, today I have begotten you ( Psalms)

sonmvayina:
Did God not send Jonah to Nineveh? When they repented ,did he not forgive them ? Yes or No?

When did he say he needed somebody to die for another person sins? Is that even right in your eyes..since you where born,have you ever seen somebody sent to prison for another persons crime , so if it does not work with humans, why did you think it will work with God ?

So are you saying it's not possible for a king to give his life, so that his nation can continue to exist?

donnie:
He is not a man, but he made us men in His image (to look like Him). He is the Creator, the almighty ...YAHUAH is His name.

By that you mean God has the form of a black man. So he made black people in his image to be black like him, and the white people are they also in his image?

donnie:
There's a difference between invincible and invisible. Look up both words then REPENT and believe the truth.

Do you know that Moses saw his backside? (Exodus 33:22).

Thanks for the correction, but come on, like wow your God is a man? interesting.

donnie:
Spirit doesn't mean formless, imaginary or abstract. Take note.

The Most High is described here as a black man with wooly/nappy hair.

Daniel 7:9
I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

My man, your bible says God is invisible, how come he has a hair as white as wool, and has a black skin?

donnie:
When you catch them in their white Jesus lies, they start quoting scriptures. How come they didn't remember the scriptures before changing his image from black to white?

And The Most High has a physical appearance as that of a man, if you must know. We were made in his image (to look like him).

isn't it thesame jesus that said God is a spirit? So are you saying God is a man?

Jesus is a spiritual son of God not a physical son. It seems you don't understand the things of the spirit. Is Isreal not God's son?

Jones4190:
that means God is black because Jesus said him and the father are one

God is not a man, he and the father are one by the spirit.

If u feel you guys can keep all the commandments yourself without Jesus, then fine! But as for me o, I'm completely leaning on Jesus for guidance and for everything. Ordinary to cross road which I find it difficult to do, I ask the Holy Spirit or my angel to help me, and I just find it easy to do. There was a time an elderly woman held my hands to cross

Thattallgirl, this is very good and we are to be led by the spirit in all we do, but the start point is in wanting to practice what christ have taught in the gospels and then to ask the spirit for help.
I am not saying you shouldn't depend on the spirit to keep the commandments, but I am saying rather that it is your conscious willingness to keep the commandments of jesus by the help of the spirit, that sets you apart and makes you live by faith. When I say commandments of jesus, I am not necessarily speaking about do's and don't s like you find in the old covenant, but rather the commandments of jesus are active commandments, they are the commandments to be focussed on, and the spirit is also there for us to call on for help in that regards.

Hope you got my point? Have a nice day and continue living in christ, cheers.

Thattallgirl:
Kobojunkie and GeneralDae, and any other person that may oppose what I posted, I'm just going to say these and leave u be, except those who want to understand more of all I've posted and want to ask more questions and not oppose.

You guys have said all u "know" to be right, some of which has no Bible backing but only based on your understanding of what is right or wrong.

First I'd love for u to read Hebrews 8:8-12, also read where Jesus Himself said with His mouth that He has fulfilled the law. It's always easy actually for Christians to follow routines which end up wearing them out and putting them in bondage.

As for me, whether u agree or not, I AM THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD IN CHRIST JESUS (2 Corinthians 5:21) and I have been made righteous forever, not because of my works or cos I'm trying to keep the commandments which I know I can't keep, but I am righteous simply because Christ Himself has made me righteous by the shedding of His blood! Through Jesus and Jesus alone, I can approach God with all confidence and happiness no matter the situation I'm in.

I remember a time I wore a short gown out. Christians would condemn me and say if I wear it I'll go to hell. But I remembered that I prayed to God as my Father, He is my Dad and I'm His child, His beloved! I told Him I wanted to wear it and I went ahead to wear it. Before I got halfway to my destination, I felt uncomfortable and didn't like what I wore. From inside out, I was naturally renewed and since then, I never wore that short gown out again. Another true story of a girl who got born again and told her pastor she still wanted to be a dancer. What would the average pastor say? He'd say if she dances she'll go to hell and burn. The pastor told her to go ahead but continue having a relationship with God. I think few days later, she came back to the pastor and said she doesn't feel like dancing anymore. That's what I'm saying! That's what the Bible says in Hebrews 8:8-10.

Since I've had this revelation of who I am in Christ and that whenever I make a mistake, I believe that I'm still righteous in God's eyes only because of the blood of Jesus, since then, I've been extremely free in Christ. My relationship with God has been way better. I've even recently received the gift of the Spirit which I was unable to receive before. Naturally, the urge to sin isn't there, naturally I'm loving my neighbor as I love myself, naturally, I'm loving God with all my heart, soul, and mind. Naturally, I don't feel the urge to fornicate cos I know God loves me so much that He doesn't want me to get hurt or get a disease or be yoked together with someone who isn't God's choice for me.

If u feel you guys can keep all the commandments yourself without Jesus, then fine! But as for me o, I'm completely leaning on Jesus for guidance and for everything. Ordinary to cross road which I find it difficult to do, I ask the Holy Spirit or my angel to help me, and I just find it easy to do. There was a time an elderly woman held my hands to cross

That's the freedom in Christ I'm referring to. It is written in Psalm 23 that He will prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies...lol that means He will cook and set the table for me, while I sit and enjoy all that God planned for me...that is RESTING in Christ and not doing your best to make Christ do it for u. We're to rest in Him while He works for our good.

I've been completely free and in peace since I had this revelation and it is not based on man's words, every scripture I quoted are in the Bible for u all to see. Enjoy your own self efforts o...lol...I'll be enjoying in God's Unmerited Favor that I do not deserve but yet receive cos of Jesus' precious blood.

Lastly, I won't reply any more mentions if it's to oppose anything I've posted, except you need me to explain more or ask questions about what I've posted. Have a lovely week!

I understand you perfectly, and I agree with you. Keeping commandments of touch not, taste not, wear not, is not what I call righteousness either. Rather keeping commandments in the new covenant is a different ball game altogether, these are active commandments that when kept, demonstrate your faith e.g

1) Do unto others what you would have them do unto you. These are the law and the prophets.
2) A new commandment I give unto you, love one another as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than these, than that he should give his life for his friends.
3) If you love only those who love you, what reward have you for even the heathen ( who don't know God) do thesame, but love as your heavenly father who allows his sun to shine on both the good and evil.

Etc Etc.

My point is that the teachings of jesus in the gospels are given to Christians to be consciously followed and kept and they are not burdensome. The teachings of jesus doesn't tell us about wearing short skirt or not wearing short skirts

Apostle paul and the book of Hebrews spoke mostly about not being justified by the old testament laws and mundane religous laws of touch not, wear not, taste not, which do not demonstrate faith but were rather laws given to seperate the children of Isreal, they are laws given to us as children. But now that we are grown up, we must keep the laws of christ ( which are the laws of faith) and that becomes righteousness.

Read the four gospels first in order to understand the epistles better and the context in which paul wrote most of his letters, evaluate the epistles by the gospels and not the other way round, this is why you fail to get where I am coming from.