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MatrixReloaded:
Easier said and read online articles. Leave theory and focus on the practical aspect of life. You gain entry in our country and you are working, well done... have u ever wonder why u can't leave a nation more than 1 year without returning back? Well there are certain restrictions that comes with having been neutralised in another nation. Lol 😆
That been said if he ain't married, he most likely end up with PR and I.D which he can use to make his U.S wonderland trip.

Basic information online is not the actual service you get physically. All eyes on🙄 2028**

Readers should believe a random a MatrixReloaded, not the Chilean government? But the same Matrix wants us to believe that studying in famine ridden Ethiopia is the best thing since sliced bread. Thank goodness you never said I lied, which is what you did.

Tensa20, see why you have to be petty? If you cannot be petty by then, please let me know, I would gladly do it on your behalf. Don't forgive or forget, hold the grudge and hold it tight.

MatrixReloaded:
Read what I wrote too... yen yen yen, is he a Chilean by birth or was born in Chile soil. Have u ever imagine what immigration laws can turn out in few months or year. Like I said least he can ever get it PR and I.D card. But that pp wey u dey talk of he no marry there as he said he would if him get there pp make I know say I no sabi migration palava.

Again, that is a lie. This is the problem I have with you people - you lie brazenly and unintelligently.

https://residencies.io/residency/chile/temporary-residency/cl1#:~:text=After%205%20years%20of%20residency,%2C%20traditions%2C%20values%20and%20history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilean_nationality_law

The first two are in English, the one below is in Spanish.

https://www.chileatiende.gob.cl/fichas/3811-solicitud-de-carta-de-nacionalizacion

Please stop lying in a public forum. Do it in your house.

MatrixReloaded:
Expatriate is mentioned in dictionary for a purpose. As an exchange student you can migrate from one of the University in Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam to U.S labour market depends if your course or skills is needed.

It is not a skill issue. The sponsorship is based on a lottery and I have explained the process countless times on this thread. Please read up on the H1B and H1B1. Vietnamese or Malaysians cannot access the US labour market, unlike Singaporeans without restrictions. Chileans can do so.

That been said, as a foreign national seeking for neutralisation in Chile after living for 5 years just maybe the system doesn't theighten there immigration laws then we can talk about been a legalised as a Permanent Resident permit cos u see that passport if him no marry there woman least he can get is a Permanent resident permit after 5 years.

That is an unintelligent lie.

Citizenship is attainable in five years. If you must lie, please do it in your house.

https://nomadcapitalist.com/global-citizen/second-passport/why-chilean-citizenship-is-the-swiss-army-knife-passport/

MatrixReloaded:
After highlighting South Africa u still quote Ethiopia. Shit hole or not that's the cheapest route to migrate from Africa and not Nigeria.
BTW I never said I had 3 kids. The pp u saw was mine. Wife, pikin ...family of 3. Read before u make ur comment.

MatrixReloaded:
Na u sabi my Gee. I been dey reason chile but e too far and expensive. I rather settle for ethiopia get there PR and file for U.S which is more easier to get appointment in any of the Western countries. Btw Chile , Kuala Lumpur and Jakarta where I have lived is far beautiful than this Ikoyi burdillion roads u posted. Shior

Your first choice was Ethiopia. It is a sh!thole and the passport is weak compared to Chile. Do Ethiopian passport holders enjoy unrestricted access to the US labour market? Do famine-ridden Ethiopians enjoy visa free access to the US and EU? BTW, if you have so many properties in Nigeria and visit Dubai as if it is your backyard, why are you interested in still moving to Western countries?

You see this una demonic hypocrisy?!

tensazangetsu20:
That's great for you. Enjoy your Australia.

Let's assume he worked in the HoR - he exemplifies the typical Nigerian politician's cruel behaviour and the demons we fight here every day. As you can see, they have second citizenship in developed countries, which is Chile is one of (a member of the OECD).

All my points have been proven ab initio. There is a straight line from someone against young Nigerians emigrating legally to reputable countries and their cruelty. Nothing surprises me anymore.

Gerrard59:
I feel I should try to elucidate some things with my little knowledge on migration:

- Stay away from Woke people! They might share the same skin colour but their experiences differ from yours. When listening/reading tales from people in the abroad who warn you from relocating, ask questions. Try to know their migration route and citizenship/economic status. Someone who left via tourist visa and another who went for MBA at Haas School of Business would have different experiences, learn the mistakes the former made and strategies the latter did. Anyone who discourages you from relocating when s/he has not relocated to Nigeria is hypocritically wicked and does not wish you well (and if you check those who relocated, they are already citizens of developed countries). Flee from such people.

Best wishes!

Minsk24:
Economy and standard of living can differ...
Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam will definitely have bigger economy than Chile, but with more population...Chile with small population, the can take care of their people more with their economy, this analogy is similar to some small European countries, they have a high standard of living compared to countries with big population and big economy

Malaysia has a high standard of living compared to Vietnam and Indonesia, but with how our people don spoil the name there, it makes no sense for a Nigerian migrant to move there with just the Nigerian passport. The Malaysian passport is pretty strong, considering the country's demographic profile and history. However, Malaysia does not offer a route to the US labour market, unlike Chile. That is the bone of contention these donkeys fail to grasp.

At least, we have moved away from whether Chile is safe, has a good economy and the passport offers unrestricted access to the US labour market. This is the result when you fight demons head-on.

MatrixReloaded:
Bro if you like sound as if you are more educated than seun whom out of bliss around 2005 created this platform to archives notes from different faceless individuals seeking for answers from others. I'm not here for your lecture as I have my own opinion just like the young chap that created this thread. First I'm not disputing the fact anyone can get married or not is a choice, even the westerners at a certain point get kick out by there guardians once they hit 18yrs. If I may ask your great grand parents were subject to slave trade within this route South America. Have you ever imagine going to school in South Africa, not just Ethiopia. Like I said my opinion and if he land the job as he's searching let him cruise the 5years while I get my masters in South Africa less 1 year, with a PR statues, which means lesser funds, higher education and active PR for migration to west either Europe or U.S

So at the end of the day, you are targeting the same regions he is aiming at while in your 40s with three children after amassing three passports. On the other hand, OP is less than 30 and is a tech bro. The end justifies the means. Those who went through South America obviously are not university educated, possess no skills, weren't willing to learn the language and most importantly did not follow legal routes. OP has no business going through the Darien Gap like those you know.

P.S. Ethiopia is a sh!thole. There is nothing fascinating in boasting about studying in sh!tholes.

RaptorX:
Keep googling away, but I have been traveling to the US probably before you were born or still a toddler.

Coming from the clown who lied that Chileans are jumping the fence via Mexico to enter the US?

RaptorX:
The same Latin America from where they are all jumping the US border illegally by the millions including Chileans and Brazilians to come and be cleaning toilets, picking crops under hot sun, working in Macdonald's, doing back breaking construction jobs while no speky English. All the low wage menial crap jobs that even Africans will not touch. Never saw an African clean toilets in the US, because 99% of toilet cleaners are Latinos wonder why they didn't all go to the paradise in Chile and Brazil so keep deceiving the gullibles like yourself on NL.

You think this is 2003 where any donkey can spew gibberish from his anus and every Tom, Dick and Harry would swallow such a lie without questioning it? So sane people should believe mendacious monkeys who lied through their filthy fingers that Chileans who have visa-free access to the US are jumping fences to enter the same US?

You can't even call me liar to my face I bet you.

IF I ever get to meet you in public, I will call you a liar, no ifs or buts. I don't care who the fvck you are!

RaptorX:
Very predictable to avoid the question, you gonna be alright.

Again, you this liar. There is a reason immigrants from around the world target the US while those in the EU target Switzerland. If the immigrant's aim is to make lots of money, live a frugal life and save, those places are the best to earn salaries as a professional worker. Google it, for I won't do it for you, the US is where the salaries are incredibly high for white-collar professionals. Singapore also comes close and is a major destination for Asians.

Kipaji:
Gerrard, could you expatiate on the emboldened point please?

For black Africa to be rich or at least middle class, we need to receive investments and have our goods access wealthier markets. That is what the US did with Japan after the nuclear bombing, South Korea after the disintegration, Singapore, Malaysia and Taiwan. Those countries got massive investments from Western companies and technical know-how. In return, they rose from the poverty stage to wealth. The same applied to China during the late '80s. A nation cannot be rich by selling goods to poorer countries. A hotel in Ikeja GRA will generate more revenues than another in Ojo simply because visitors/guests within the GRA axis have more money than those in Ojo. Also, countries like Brazil, South Korea, Japan and many African countries got richer as China grew. Western countries benefitted from low inflation because there was a China that manufactured anything at the lowest prices. Western companies also benefitted from a huge market where they sold goods and services. Everyone benefitted.

Now, the Chinese are ascending to higher levels and the West feels threatened and is clamping down on her growth. OK, their interest. So, where next are the world's manufacturing hubs they are targeting? South Asia (India) and South East Asia. But these places are a distance away from Europe and the United States. The most logical would be to do the same in black Africa to serve the same purpose as China. The other day, I read German businesses went to Indonesia, Malaysia and Vietnam to seek partners to produce goods for the EU market. For crying out loud, is Malaysia closer to Germany than Senegal? Kenya? Tanzania?

Investing in certain countries to make them rich is good for the investor because when those people invested in become rich, they purchase the goods and patronise the services of the investor. That is how it happened with the Chinese and the West. The West invested, and today Chinese purchase lots of Mercedes-Benz, LVMH, Tesla, BASF chemicals, Airbus etc. The same applies to Thailand, Malaysia and South Korea, where the Japanese invested, and those countries are major trading partners of Japan today by buying Japanese goods and patronising Japanese' companies' services. The same thing is what the Chinese tried replicating in Africa - invest there and ensure they become rich. In return, they will purchase goods from China when they become wealthy.

The question now is, why didn't the West think of the same, considering we have a 500+ year history compared to the Chinese?

MatrixReloaded:
I no say u get 3 pp and u been to 15 world countries but with whom? It thrills me how a full grown ass man will be subjected to only building his life without supporting others, no wife, kids, like how do u guys over 30 or mid 40s consider life journey alone.. Wasting all this funds to migrate, I rather have my wife give birth in this countries with 10m for my unborn kids in other to gain jus-soil.

There is something you need understand about living in the 21st century as my instincts tells me you are almost hitting 40 (no harm intended).

There is more to life than just having children. I and OP, on separate occasions, have called Marie Stopes Nigeria to ask, "how much una dey charge for vasectomy?". Speaking for myself, I have never fancied having plenty of children. I believe there is more to life than just having kids. I am very neutral about being married. Just as my contemporaries have fewer children as opposed to the older ones who had many children. I see the upcoming Gen-Zs having just one child or being child-free. OP has spent time on reddit/antinatalist, while I have researched on being child-free.

As I dey like this, I have a certain standard of living I must not go below, and IF I must go below it due to circumstances beyond my control, let it be only me. I dread bringing another being to suffer. Life is meant to be enjoyed and explored. When I was in Nigeria, I used to wonder why young people in developed countries forgo having children, but after being in a developed country, I now understand why they do so.

I know it is a culture shock, but such is life for most people. It was a culture shock to me when I went to NYSC camp in the north and saw few women out in the streets. I had to ask a fellow corp member, "Where are the women?"

MatrixReloaded:
We are here for people like you to learn how to build a community filled with intellectual whom have at the back of their mind to relinquish an outstanding track records home and abroad. Those whom won't get cut up in others delimma and trial risk filled adventure. They may not even have option B... rather they would marry a woman older than there mother, sleeping comfortably with such women and refuting there motivated reason for migrating away from young black African women.

Any educated Nigerian who enters Chile legally does not need to marry a Chilean woman before attaining naturalisation status. In fact, that is one of the reasons this thread was created - to inform young Nigerians of other reputable and less popular destinations with a high ROI than dem Malaysia, Turkey or Jakarta. The person just needs to get a job and siddon put for five years and get the passport. Also, Tensa20 has nothing against marrying a black woman even though there is no economic benefit in marrying a black African (male or female).

C'mon! Isn't that better than Turkey or Indonesia, which are not even high salary destinations? As I have preached here, it is better to go to Singapore and Switzerland because they offer high salaries though an almost impossible means to become a naturalised citizen (for Singapore) than wasting time in Malaysia or Vietnam. People need to think long term and play delayed gratification. The five years many of our people waste in those places, if spent in Chile or even Peru, they become nationals and move to Western countries with ease. His strategy is being played by Indians who are now applying to Canadian universities, get citizenship and move to the US to work through the TN visa.

MatrixReloaded:
More reason I quoted avoid there women. You can marry Brazilian because they are bit TAN and mixed. Chile , Argentina you need to thread with caution. You are my brother no doubt but I will be honest enough to tell you this part you thread hundreds of Nigerian have gone through Panama tunnel and out but don't over hype a nation Nigeria is far relaxed than.... you can marry from East Africa, Southern Africa, Northern Africa... don't give excuse of Nigeria women not enough for a young lad as u

Well, you don't know Tensa20 better than I do. He is not interested in marriage at the moment as being in Chile will enable him to achieve his dream - get to the United States and access its labour market. You need to understand that not every young Nigerian man is desperate to marry or have sex. It might sound odd to you, but that is the reality. Again, for the umpteenth time, a legal resident in Chile does not have to use whatever tunnel to migrate to the United States. Again, Chilean passport holders CAN travel to the US visa-free and are among the five countries with unrestricted access to the US labour market - Tensa20's main target.

He is not in Chile to marry the women as a major point, but to enter the US without issues and not on a Nigerian passport. The same Western countries you want to enter via a sh!thole Ethiopia's PR is what Tensa20 will access but with a Chilean passport and gain access to the only country's labour market with the highest salaries for black professionals in the world.

Let's understand the young man's focal point.

Hisimperialmaje:
With the US visa being the toughest visa to get, why not try other countries than throwing away your money

They have to be strategic at it. People keep mentioning Germany as a good option for study but forget that obtaining a German student visa from Nigeria takes at least a year from the date of application to the interview date. Interview, not visa issuance, as an interview does not guarantee a visa.

budaatum:
You "extreme" is prejudiced biased, and an attempt to demonise.

Feminism increases the worker pool, and gives employers more choice. Already, feminism has ensured more girls than boys get educated, and women are more desirable employees than boys.

If you boys don't evolve you'll be left far behind.

It is not a thread on feminism, so I won't go further. Just to state that, I was once very pro-feminist during my early days on Nairaland. Also, I said in poor countries. Extreme feminism has generated low birth rates in a traditional society such as South Korea, but that is a wealthy country. Does feminism has its benefits? Yes.

I really don't want to delve into it as it will derail this thread.

[quote author=pansophist post=125302035]That's something I also do not understand about US politics. The idea that they believe they are operating from a position of strength, but are the one asking for open communication, spreading propaganda, doing visitations, and engaging in bloc confrontation.

China did none of these, they are just existing but the US won't let them be. This is a case where you have to look at actions not words. The US is in a position of weakness, and their actions speaks louder than words will ever say.

Now listen to this clown Vivek Ramaswamy. Let me not say anything, listen to this man who is a US presidential candidate and imagine how stupid the kinds of idiots that are qualified to be US President.

My plan to achieve peace in Ukraine and stop the China-Russia military alliance is the mirror-image of President Nixon’s diplomatic maneuver that distanced China from Russia in 1972, except this time Putin is the new Mao. pic.twitter.com/z2PtiHkVDT

— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) August 20, 2023

watched the video. In a way, Vivek is correct. You have written the same here. The US aligned economically with China in hopes that she would become an allied Japan through which the US could further bring down Russia. In a nutshell, to get at Russia, the US opened up to China. However, he can't win anyway. Tim Scott has brighter chances than he does. Trump is the likeliest GOP candidate should he trump his court issues. If an Indian-American is to be a formidable front-runner, Ro Khanna of the Democratic Party has brighter chances. Additionally, I don't think or see White Americans voting for a non-White to become the president amidst confrontation with China.

In my opinion, the US is a beacon for the White race regarding global economic, military and soft power strength. No other White-dominated country comes close. China is rising economically, which will diminish that clout. Thus, a white man is needed at the White House to "contain" China's growth.

I recall posting a video where a senior Chinese official stated one of the grievances the US has towards China is because the Chinese invested in Africa to enable Africans to get richer.

So Gina Raimondo, the US Commerce Secretary, is visiting China later this month for God-knows-what agenda she wants to discuss. At the same time, the US is placing restrictions on its companies investing in China, wants to, as usual, bully her allies vassals

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into doing the same, reduce trade with China, place military bases around China, coaxing South Korea and Japan into an alliance to fight China even when both countries have China as their largest trade partners.

The arrogance is befuddling, and the cognitive dissonance is mind-blowing. BTW, Panso, I am curious, why is it US officials visiting China and not the other way round, considering the US is provoking her through her policies and actions?

UnfairLife7:
The man deserves more than that. He has been without job for 2 years and all he could do was to drink, smoke, destroy his wife stuff and even went as far as hitting her.

I am a man and i will keep saying it, we men can't take half of what we dish out to women.

These same men cannot try all these nonesense in developed countries. Naija na shithole truly. Too many things wrong about the country

Thank you!

Being without a job for two years is one thing. Indulging in drinking and smoking (I wonder where he gets the money from) is another thing. As it is, having him in that house is dangerous for her. The best option now is divorce.

As a young man growing up, I know that a man's value is tied to his pockets. I have seen countless examples of men who had money but currently don't have, and how they got treated. That is fine. However, smoking and drinking worsens the case. If he was doing nothing, that is a different case. If he was being a sit-at-home dad and being unemployed, different thing. But not contributing to the household YET smoking and drinking WHILE unemployed is a very stoopid thing to do.

Lots of irresponsible men these days. If OP na my sister, I will push her to file a divorce and fund the entire process.

I hate irresponsible people!

Like I said:

Gerrard59:
This is where I am interested. How does he accomplish his aims in a city dominated by Northern interests? I want to see where his powers will extend and the accompanying opposition.

He will probably be reminded that Abuja is not Port-harcourt.

I want to see him succeed, but if I am bet, I bet he would lose. Abuja is Northern's elites playground/city, and they won't allow an Igbo man to dictate how it should be run. If it was a fellow Northerner, feasible. In fact, it is now that there would be cows parading the city to dare him.

Akaegwu:
Mr Wike becomes the first southern Nigerian to occupy that position since 1979. The only other Southerner to have occupied the position, Ajose Adeogun, did so between 1976 and 1979 when the new capital city was still a project on paper. Mr Adeogun supervised the project from Lagos, the former federal capital.

Seen. You are correct. The editor could have added the person during the '80s or say since 1999.

ednut1:
those items are expensive and cant be stored easily. Sausage needs fridge, fish too will spoil without refrigeration, Catfish can still last but i guess patronage has dropped. Na beer and ponmo most people dey buy 😆😆

Within Ajah axis?

That is terrible, man. Wow!

Spiff20:
To each his own. I've not seen successful people doing well in Nigeria think or talk about Japa. It's most those struggling. The goal is to be successful. When you're successful in whatever you do, Japa will be like strolling to your backyard. This Japa mentality is truly a lowdown. Strive to be the best of who you are and you can travel to any country you want. And who told you everyone is suffering in Naija. 200 million people and you conclude. Give me that 6m and I'll first invest, go through the struggle of watching the business rise and succeed, then travel the hell I want as a king not to wait tables for the colonial masters that enslaved my forbears. I'm sure they'll be groaning in their graves each time we return to be enslaved by their masters.

Actually, the people who are relocating and who did not obtain loans are successful judging by Nigerian standards. It costs a lot to japa.

ednut1:
go to the ones around your area to check crowd and patronage. Will you be able to offer better services and environment. Know that the people your are competing with are yahoo boys and politicians. Who build joint together with hotel. I was in Nigeria end of last year and many joints i used to go around badore road no even get bbq fish . I enter one them say no sausage for shawarma. 🤣🤣

No patronage, so they decided not to have those in stock? High prices of those items? Mismanagement of the business?

Sometimes, Nigeria defies basic economic principles.

Akaegwu:
Wike is not the first southerner to occupy the post

In the post, it was stated that Wike is the first Southerner to occupy the post since democracy was ushered in 1999.

BoldBrainz:
Lol. Millions is an exaggeration. But I do agree that there has to be a crackdown on the high cost of rents in the city and owners of empty estate homes have to be compelled to either give them out or lose their rights of ownership.

How do you intend to crackdown on rents especially on privately owned buildings?
Which part of the constitution says private home owners should lose the right to their properties because they refuse to lease them out?

Pedyson:
I think you need to create a thread with this comment, there’s a lot of sense in it

There is no sense in it. See my comment above. No city in the world has rent controls because it leads to higher rents. Landlords will decide not to build houses for rent since it is controlled. In return, the supply is limited, while demand is constant and increasing. At the end, the rents keep increasing.

Basic demand and supply.

naijaboy756:
Wike should stop the movement of cows within the city else other people can start their own movement with pigs and dogs

Wike should enforce a drop in the house rents in Abuja

Lastly, Wike should tell all owners of the thousands of empty houses especially in estates to rent them out or be taken over by government. Looters hide their funds here

You people are too communist in your views and thoughts. One of the reasons Nigeria is a poor country - everyone wants the government to control everything. Now to the bold, there is no place where rent controls exist, and there were no corresponding rent increments. Rent control leads to higher rents, not lower. You cannot dictate how much landlords should let their houses for.

There are ways to effect a reduction in rents:
- Build more public housing. Through this, you get people who would have gone to the private sector to live in public housing.
- Improve the public transport system so that dwellers will see no reason to live in the city when public transit exists that is reliable, efficient, punctual, clean and affordable. Someone who pays almost a million to live Wuse will see reasons to move to the hinterlands if the public transport has those qualities I listed.
- Quicken the building approval process and reduce the associated fees. Since Wike has no control over cement prices, that is another to ensure buildings are quickly approved (according to standards) with low fees.

Honestly, providing basic amenities is not difficult as they seem. If I were Wike, I would appoint Singaporeans, Chinese and Japanese and give them unlimited power and funds to do whatever they like.

jesmond3945:
not true. Then i better keep my money to myself

Or you invest it in the stock market wherever you live. However, a stock market is not a business enterprise compared to a factory. Alternatively, you start a business wherever you live. But if starting businesses in foreign lands is something Nigerian diasporans are good at, they should be rubbing shoulders with Indian and Pakistani billionaires in the UK. After all, there are almost a quarter of a million Nigerians residing in the UK.

In my opinion, the brain of a first-generation Nigerian migrant, especially the one who migrated as an adult, is not suited for entrepreneurship in developed countries.

if the reason for investing in nigeria is to earn dollars. Afterall I am earning dollars so why put it in Nigeria in order to earn the same dollars with all the uncertainties of export market.

Your money goes further, and you own an enterprise. Alternatively, do the aforementioned.

This is why our currency is dying. We need need to promote our currency, thats the only way for it to achieve value

But that is exactly the opposite you are advocating for. The only way for the naira to be strong (which is not good anyway) is for Nigeria as a country to export more goods, valued added, to the global market. Merely promoting the naira does not add value to it, exporting goods to other countries, getting paid in dollars and converting and spending it in Nigeria makes the naira to be strong.

Again, Nigeria does not need a strong naira. We are not Switzerland nor Singapore.

Saintinoo:
Ode, wink. I wrote about myself up there, things I find difficult doing to impress a woman, I never said guys should not spend or take a woman on a date.

Good morning.

But you stated that you find it disgusting and absurd. If you find something disgusting and absurd, it means you don't like it and won't recommend it to others.

I see almost everyday how men go about asking ladies for a date, burning date and airtime, trying to impress ladies which I find so disgusting.
I don't know if it is a problem with me, but, I find it absurd, time and resource wasting to go days asking a lady out, buy things to impress her, call her every morning and send gifts just to have a woman around me.