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Gerrard59:
I don't want to derail my guy's thread as I have outlined and posted every piece of evidence to support his choice of Chile, considering his final aim - the United States.

The visa that demon screams about is the L1 visa which anybody anywhere can get, provided s/he work for a company which has branches and offices in the US. Even in Nigeria, people get that visa direct through a transfer to the US branch. However, it targets only senior employees, not entry level staff. Two, fewer companies are operating in Nigeria, multinational or indigenous, with branches/offices in the US compared to Chile. So, the chances of someone getting into such a company in Chile are higher than in Nigeria, and the chances increase when the population is factored.

However, an L1 visa is ranked low compared to H1B1 because literally any Chilean and Singaporean with a bachelor's degree can apply to jobs in the US and does not need to follow the standard H1B route most foreigners use to be sponsored to work in the US. Thus, through the H1B1 visa, Chileans and Singaporeans have an unrestricted route to work in the US. That makes the Chilean passport very powerful, as I explained here:

When I say OP is my Immigration Oga at the top, people think it's bants. Here is why the H1B1 is superior to the H1B visa. As you can see, even British citizens don't enjoy unfettered access to the US labour market as peddled by that 23 year old vagabond of a demon.

tensazangetsu20:
When I was in ladipo I met a whole lot of Nigerian businessmen who had japanese passports. Japan isnt like singapore that uses racial quota to determine who gets PR and citizenship. Theres something the parents arent saying. No be they tell me. I don see am plenty here for naija. Igbo men with japanese pali. The parents have probably refused to renounce their Nigerian nationality as Japan does not recognise dual citizenship. The approval rate for requests is almost 99 percent.

That is what most refuse to divulge - they refuse to let go of the Nigerian passport. It cannot be hidden forever. If Sudanese and Somalians can become naturalised citizens WITHOUT marrying Japanese women, then I don't see why it is impossible for a Nigerian. The Nigerians I have met who are interested in it don't want to relinquish their Nigerian. Their choice, but that does not negate what the law says. The process is straightforward and free.

Anyway, with time, I will demystify that belief.

optimusprime2:
Brother,

Except in some very rare occasions where a foreigner marries a Japanese citizen, It is easier for a Camel, to pass through the eye of a needle than for a foreigner to get a Japanese passport after residence of 5 years.

I currently know Nigerian children who were born in Japan and have lived there for 11 and 9years respectively, however they are yet to obtain Japanese citizenship. Despite their fluency in Japanese language, they are still regarded as "aliens", because they are dark complexioned.
It doesn't work like that in many Asian countries.

Every non-East Asian is seen as an "alien". However, it does not mean citizenship is not possible. The goal is the passport, not whether they like me or not. If I want to be seen as a non-alien, I know where my parents house dey.

optimusprime2:
If you notice, I mentioned in some instances where the foreigner is married to a Japanese citizen.
Check those guys you noted, they are married to Japanese women.

In the absence of marriage,
I am reassuring you that even the Japanese PR takes 10 years to obtain, not to talk of the passport.

A simple check on the length of time it takes to obtain Japanese PR will show you it takes 10 years of living in Japan.

Bros,
Asides the length of time, there is that difficult Japanese language requirement that must be fulfilled, so it's not an easy task to even obtain Japanese PR.

That is the standard route if the person decides to take it. But the law has been liberalised so interested persons can apply to become PRs within three years and, in exceptional cases, within a year. These days, there are many ways to obtain PRs. Also, and most importantly, citizenship can be obtained within five years of continuous residence. Japan is the only developed country where foreigners can naturalise without becoming permanent residents.

That is the law, and it is applicable to everyone except, say North Koreans.

https://japan-dev.com/blog/how-to-get-permanent-residence-in-japan
https://www.moj.go.jp/EN/MINJI/minji78.html#:~:text=The%20person%20must%20have%20been,the%20prescribed%20period%20of%20time.&text=The%20person%20must%20be%2020,of%20his%2Fher%20home%20country.

P.S. This is excluding marriage. One does not have to be married to a Japanese woman to become a naturalised citizen. Anyone who leaves Nigeria to a non-English country should be prepared to learn the native language or book the next flight back to Africa.

Not long ago, China surpassed Japan to be the world's biggest exporter of vehicles. The rise has been spectacular and lightening. Particularly in electric vehicles (EVs), the Chinese have perfected it and now produce and export more EVs than any other country. Also, as a single nation, she is the biggest market for EVs. The likes of Telsa, Ford, Mercedes etc., cannot let go of that market.

In return, this has been a bottleneck for Western countries as the policy to outlaw combustion vehicles before 2050 (in the EU, it is before 2035) has seen them at the back of the foot regarding sourcing for raw materials (lithium, copper, bauxite etc) and actual production. They, especially the Europeans, are confused about the way forward as sanctioning China also puts them at risk of their companies being sanctioned. Unlike decades ago, where there was no tit-for-tat, the Chinese do it very well. Hit me, and I'll hit you back.

The Chinese have secured mines in the DRC (they gave a red carpet ceremony to the leader in Beijing a few weeks ago), Indonesia, Chile, Mongolia, Guinea Conakry, Brazil, Zambia, Namibia etc. They follow the rules as stated by the host country. When Joko of Indonesia said no more exports of raw lithium and other materials, the Chinese were the first to set up factories to process them. The South Koreans copied immediately. Joko extended the ban to bauxite. Namibians, Zambians, and even Chileans followed and enacted similar rules. What did the EU do? They sued Indonesia to the WTO, and won the first round. Indonesia has appealed the case. If you are an ordinary Indonesian, who would you prefer?

If there is one thing I like about the Chinese is their knack for pragmatism and non-interference in local issues. You scratch my back, and I scratch yours. The thing is, they will scratch yours very well. It is left for you to scratch theirs as much as they did to your back. Your country won't be invaded, or your government toppled. However, they will steer away investments from you since you became belligerent towards their business interests. This was seen in Phillippines when the ex-president was close to China and benefitted a lot via banana exports. The present president aligns with the US. What does he get in return? Military bases. What did the Chinese do? Signed a trade deal with Ecuador to get bananas. Ordinary Filipinos lose, but hey, they got a military base.

Check around Africa; the factories springing up are owned by the Chinese, Indians or Lebanese. Fine, the working conditions are not favourable, but the same applied to China during the '80s and '90s. Factories, not TikTok videos, are what African youths need as they offer stable employment and life-long technical skills.

Ajibade123:
Like write ielts in French or what's that??

Before he writes the French equivalent of IELTS, is he supposed to know French as a language, yes or no?

descarado:
Chinese marry Africans than south Koreans.
China is rooted in most African countries.
South Koreans marry AF because they are obsessed with anything American. Please don't argue with me. I know these countries diverse culture more than I know my tribe in Nigeria.

Where am I arguing with you? I replied to Panosphi.st comment about Chinese males marrying non-Chinese women since there is a dearth of women in China. I did not compare it to Koreans marrying Africans or blacks.

Now, to the first two statements: The Chinese marrying Africans more than South Koreans is a percentage game, but in actual numbers and preference, Chinese men are not interested in African women. That is the truth. Chinese men marrying African women have to do with the men being more in Africa than their South Korean counterparts.

Yes, South Koreans are obsessed with anything American because the US rebuilt the country by funnelling investments and favourable trade deals with the Koreans. So, it is appropriate. The way you constructed your earlier post made it seem Koreans hate blacks, whereas they have a preference for anything American.

Botragelad:
1) First of all, China might have more trading partners than the US, but that's just one aspect of their economic relationship. The US still has a larger and more diverse economy, and it's more innovative and competitive than China. The US also has a stronger currency, the dollar, which is used as the world's reserve currency. That means that many countries use the dollar to trade with each other, and they hold dollars in their foreign exchange reserves. This gives the US a lot of influence and power in the global financial system.

Some of it is due to trust in the US' financial system. The rest is by bullying. The US bullies everyone, including her allies. The US bullied rising Japan into signing the Plaza Accord, which decimated the economy in Japan, resulting in the "Lost Decades". The same Japan America literally babied after bombing her cities and had military bases in Okinawa and Tokyo. Now, they are doing the same with China through a series of sanctions and building military bases around China. In contrast, China has not built one, even in Mexico or Cuba.

But you can't just look at the economy when you compare China and the US. You also have to consider their political, diplomatic, military, and technological aspects. And in these areas, the US has many advantages over China. The US is a democracy with a free press, a vibrant civil society, and a strong rule of law. China is an authoritarian regime that suppresses human rights, censors information, and cracks down on dissent.

First, China has surpassed the US in citations, some of which emanate from relatively unknown universities in China. Westerners say it is copying, but looking it at deeply, the Chinese are innovative. Solar, wind and EVs are examples of how they are innovative driven.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01705-7
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Science/China-tops-U.S.-in-quantity-and-quality-of-scientific-papers
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3223810/nature-index-rates-chinese-universities-ahead-oxbridge-caltech-quality-research-output

The BS about free speech. Do you mean the free speech where people are being cancelled because they say "two genders exist"? That free speech? The free speech that promotes "do as I say, not as I do"? JK Rowling has been criticised because she has continuously stated that a man is someone with a natural pen!s and that so-called trans men should not be allowed to participate in women's sports. Is that the free speech you applaud?

Yes, the Chinese might be authoritarian but are not hypocritical. BTW, the crackdown on dissent is something that happens across major nations. The US has cracked down on dissenters. Also, the US is the last country to talk about human rights. It was not China that transported millions of blacks across the Atlantic to work on plantations. Neither was it China that sided with France to ruin Haiti.

2)The US has many allies and partners around the world who share its values and interests. China has few friends and many rivals who distrust its intentions and actions. The US has a powerful and professional military that can project force globally and defend its interests and allies. China has a large but outdated military that is mainly focused on its own region and faces many challenges in modernizing and operating abroad. The US is a leader in science and technology, especially in fields like biotechnology, artificial intelligence, aerospace, and cyber security. China is trying to catch up, but it still lags behind in many areas and relies on stealing or copying from others.

Hitherto, I thought the same, but after reading articles, I refuse to believe the US has its allies' interests at heart. She forced the Japanese government to mandate her chipmaker chemical manufacturers to restrict exports to China. The same applies to ASML of The Netherlands. Chipmakers in Japan and ASML generate over a third of their revenues from China alone. If you have your allies' interests at heart, why arm-twist them not to sell to their biggest single customer?

Then comes the CHIPS ACT. After ensuring these countries restrict exports to China, the US uses public funds to lure manufacturers into establishing factories in the US while placing subtle sanctions on the firms if they source their raw materials elsewhere. Even Belgian politicians complained: https://www.ft.com/content/16816444-1694-4530-84bb-ac289d6776dd
Is Belgium not an ally of the US?

As I write, Europe's biggest manufacturers are establishing factories in the US WHILE cutting/reducing/shutting down investments and factories in Europe. https://www.ft.com/content/06acbc5f-7a57-48b5-b486-1fd63dd306fd

So don't be fooled by the propaganda talk about the US using countries as puppets. Partners are partners/allies, not puppets. The US is not forcing anyone to be its ally. It's offering them cooperation and assistance based on mutual respect and benefit. That's how alliances work.

The above shows it is false. Funny how the US is not forcing allies but demands India should not buy Russian oil. YET supports India's arch-rival Pakistan with funds and military training.

3). And think that the strength of the US is only based on the dollar. The US can still survive if the dollar crashes, although it would be very painful and difficult. The US has a resilient and adaptable economy that can recover from shocks and crises. It also has a diverse and creative society that can overcome challenges and find solutions. The fact that the dollar has been the world's reserve currency for so long shows how strong the US is, not how weak it is.

Agreed.

4) Again, you lie about there being no alternative currency to the dollar. There are other currencies that can be used for international trade and finance, such as the euro, the yen, or even the renminbi (the Chinese currency). But most countries won't dare to trade in those currencies because they are either too unstable, too controlled, or too risky. They prefer to use the dollar because it is more reliable, more liquid, and more accepted.

Agreed.

5) Who said the US debt is not a problem?. It is a problem, but not an insurmountable one. The US debt is mainly owed to its own citizens or institutions, not to foreign creditors like China. The US also has a strong credit rating and a low borrowing cost, which means that it can service its debt without much difficulty. And the US economy has always proven to take care of stuff like that by growing faster than its debt. Dude!

Agreed.

The bold was lost recently. Even Janet Yellen complained: https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/yellen-says-fitch-downgrade-entirely-unwarranted-amid-us-economic-strength-2023-08-02/

6) Don't worry about inflation being felt by the countries holding dollars or whatever BS you are talking about. Inflation is mainly a domestic phenomenon that affects the purchasing power of consumers within a country. It does not affect the exchange rate of currencies between countries, unless there is hyperinflation or currency crisis. Countries holding dollars can still use them to buy goods or services from other countries at market prices.

That is not true. Inflation has risen in South Korea and Japan because these countries purchase gallons of crude which is priced in dollars. The Russian-Ukraine crisis has seen the price skyrocket. In return, countries which buy a lot of oil have had their inflation, especially related, shot up. Also, unlike what you stated, this has seen the value of the Yen devalue against the dollar. Earlier this year, it almost hit 170Y to the dollar. Furthermore, the rise of interest rates in the US affects countries' exchange value. Japan is a notable victim of this. I recall a comment on Reddit where the commentator stated that the US would have to reduce its interest rate so that the Yen regains its value as a devalued yen puts Japan at risk. That the US needs an economically strong Japan to deter China.

7) Hegemony means that one country dominates or controls other countries through its superior power or influence. Multipolarism means that there are several countries or regions that have comparable power or influence in world affairs. The US is is a leader among equals.

That is true, but as China rises, ditto India, that influence declines. A wealthy and populated country with different values/system would sway away others' interests.

According to you, the reason the US has thrived for decades is because other countries were beaten down in World War II. That's a very simplistic and inaccurate view of history. The US has thrived for decades because of its own hard work, innovation, entrepreneurship, and leadership. It has also helped other countries to recover and prosper after the war, through initiatives like the Marshall Plan, the Bretton Woods system, and the NATO alliance. The US has been a force for good in the world, not a force for evil.

But that is true. Had Japan and Germany not lost, the US would have faced serious competition, especially in Europe and Asia. Unsurprisingly, those are the countries she has huge military bases.

Second bold, go and tell that to folks in the Middle East, parts of Africa, Central America and South America where the CIA has conspired to topple governments and removed democratically elected presidents to protect her interests.

9)Never you underestimate the US in terms of infrastructure, technology, diplomacy, military and allies. The US is better than China in all these areas, and that's what makes it a superpower. The US has a vast and modern infrastructure that connects its cities and regions, and supports its economy and society. China has a lot of infrastructure too, but much of it is low-quality, wasteful, or environmentally damaging

That is bullying, not diplomacy.

China actually has improved its infrastructure with modern trains/bridges connecting cities and regions. The quality is very high, and she has the latest Maglev train system, which is the world's fastest: https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/china-fastest-maglev-train-intl-hnk/index.html

The tale about China's infrastructure being environmentally damaging is a mendacious one. The Chinese have invested more in climate-friendly technologies than most Western countries. China exports more solar panels and wind blades than every other nation. Were it to be 15 years ago, yes, China did not care about the environment. But not today. They are pragmatic, as the word connotes.

The US has a cutting-edge technology sector that produces world-class innovations and products that shape the future. China has a lot of technology too, but much of it is copied, stolen, or controlled by the state.

The Americans copied from the British and Germans. The British copied from the Arabs and Persians. The Japanese copied from the Americans. The Koreans copied from the Japanese. Everyone copied. The question is, how well did you copy to benefit your people? How well did you copy to make yours?

The US controls research via funnelling into desired sectors. The Chinese do the same, ditto the Japanese. Nothing different. Talmbout six and half a dozen.

The US has a sophisticated diplomacy that engages with other countries and multilateral institutions on a range of issues and challenges. China has a lot of diplomacy too, but much of it is aggressive, coercive, or self-serving. The US has a formidable military that can defend its interests and allies anywhere in the world.

That is an unfair accusation of the Chinese. Very unfair. How is China aggressive when she does not have 800+ bases scattered across the world? Fine, countries should defend their interests, but the Chinese do this on the table rather than placing bases left, right and centre. The Chinese signed trade deals with the Solomon Islands, and the Americans quickly went to Papua New Guinea to cite a military base.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/china-solomon-islands-agree-strategic-partnership-2023-07-10/

The US signed an agreement to station more troops in the Phillippines, but through Geely Motors, China invested $10BN into Malaysia. How is China aggressive when the Chinese don't interfere in the internal politics of countries? When the Chadian leader died and his son took over. France gave her blessings. But when the same happened in Niger, the US pushes Nigeria to invade her neighbour. What have the Chinese done? Nothing. Who is then more aggressive? Mind you, the US, not China, has a military base in Agadez.

China has a lot of military too, but much of it is outdated, untested, or limited by geography. The US has a network of allies and partners that share its values and vision for a free and open world. China has few allies and partners, unlike the US and most of them are authoritarian or unreliable.

Actually, the Chinese are rapidly improving their military assets, much to the chagrin of American military chiefs. https://www.rand.org/blog/2023/03/why-is-china-strengthening-its-military-its-not-all.html
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Comment/US-fears-of-China-s-AI-armed-military-are-well-founded

Two, why should it be tested when China is not a warmonger? Is it China that has gone round the world fighting every available country?

China's view of allyship is based on business interests. I sell to you, and you buy from me. Everyone goes home happy. China has invested in Namibia but has never stated Namibia should adopt Chinese values. It is not the Chinese that want Qatar to accept gay rights even though she purchases a lot of Qatari gas.

10) China may have grown more economically than the whole G7 combined annually, but that's mainly because it started from a very low base and used unfair practices to boost its growth,well most countries do that.

Define unfair practices? Good enough, you admitted everyone does it. So, why is China different?

China may have lifted millions of people out of poverty, but that's mainly because it kept them in poverty for so long under its communist system.

After, they were kept from trading with the rest of the world via sanctions placed by the US and had internal divisions orchestrated by the Brits and Japanese. Olden days China was communist, agreed. Not today's China which is the biggest buyer of Mercedes and LVMH goods.

China may have the largest standing army in the world, but that doesn't mean it has the best or the winning army. The size of an army doesn't matter as much as its quality, training, equipment, doctrine, morale, and leadership. And the US army is way better than China's in all these aspects, because of its experience and tactical warfare skills. Just look at what happened in Ukraine: Russia has a larger army than Ukraine, but it still can't defeat it or take over its territory completely.

Agreed. But I don't see how an army that admits transgenders will have a bigger morale and leadership than a homogenous one full of masculine men.

So don't worry about a shift in the world order. There is a huge probability that the US will still continue to dominate the world for a long time to come, because of its strengths and advantages in all domains. The US is not perfect; it has its problems and challenges too. But it also has the ability and the will to overcome them and to improve itself. The US is not a declining power; it is a resilient and dynamic power that can adapt to changing circumstances and opportunities.

A shift is inevitable. Nothing lasts forever. The probability is low as India and other emerging powers grow economically. Yes, the US is not perfect, but considering her ills over the years, she has been very hypocritical and a bully even to so-called allies. Yes, I admire the breadth of capitalism as an unrepentant capitalist. Still, I desire a system with more than one superpower, and countries have the right to choose who they want without being bombed or sanctioned.

descarado:
I actually blocked them on youtube cos I guess they make living off their kids.
The man can only marry black American cos she is American. Koreans hate Africans and proud about it.

You called it hate; I call it economics. How come they hate black Africans but like African Americans? Are both persons not black?

As I have stated here countless times, marrying a black African has no economic benefit. Even black people bred in Europe stay off such, let alone people from other races.

pansophist:
China is suffering from an excessive surplus of millions of men who will never find a wife in China, due to the one-child policy. Marrying foreigners seems to be the cure.

But at what cost?

Marry Mongolians, Vietnamese, Koreans, Filipinos etc. Most Chinese men in East Asia won't marry a black African woman. If it must be a black woman, an African American.

Generally, humans marry their type.

Enugupikin:
All you mentioned has exactly no bearing with beauty, this is the fact

I believe it does. Someone with a higher standard of living who eats a balanced diet and is less exposed to the hazardous and stressful ways of life would look ravishing compared to a counterpart who faces the opposite.

Enugupikin:
The sense of beauty esp amongst the white men is different from we the blacks so you can't say the whites aren't fine. The comparison os between the blacks in Nigeria and the blacks in UK. Don't deviate from the topic.

For one what beauty means for the white folks is a very slim damsel and they don't care about your useless nyash lol. This is just the fact. Probably why them no rate their fat white females or regular blacks with big tummy and buttocks

I wanted to type the same. The concept of beauty by a Black man differs from the White or Asian man. The only set of women who can give Black women a run would be their South American counterparts.

However, I am still unconvinced that UK girls are less beautiful than their Nigerian counterparts. Inhaling generator fumes, continuously washing clothes with their hands, using firewood for cooking, ferrying water over long distances on their head, sitting in traffic on totally unmotorable roads, entering potu-potu to walk to their jobs or schools, being apprehensive because there has no been electricity or NEPA just brought light after three days blackout, general insecurity, a propensity to fall ill easily etc. These things contribute to living standards. A better comparison would be a girl bred in the UK and her counterpart from a highbrow area in Nigeria.

Gerrard59:
I met a Brazilian and a Venezuelan and asked them about Chile when OP was processing his visa.

They both said Chileans rarely emigrate because they are rich. The Venezuelan girl accused Chileans of being too proud. The Brazilian lad said Chileans rarely associate with other South Americans because they are rich, and even when they emigrate to nearby countries, they move to Argentina and Uruguay. And once they finish what they do, they move back to Chile. He rarely sees Chileans whereas he sees Venezuelans daily. These are fellow South Americans who know better than anyone else on this thread, share the same cultural and racial ties.

Chile is wealthier than Nigeria, even omitting GDP per capita. Nigeria, not Chile, has the highest number of poor people in the world. If you claim it is because of population, Brazil does not have the highest number of poor people in South America.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1287649/poverty-rate-latin-america/

The dude and I went out for lunch earlier today. I got to ask him a series of questions about South America.

- Chile is wealthier and has the highest living standards in the region. But he believes Brazil has more economic opportunities due to the size of the economy. Let's not forget that someone commented on another thread saying "Botswana has more economic opportunities than Brazil. Thus, Botswana is better for a migrant from West Africa than Brazil".
- Chile is way safer. No questions about it.
- Chileans rarely mix up with other South Americans except Argentines and Uruguyanas. If a Chilean is to emigrate for work purposes, s/he is off to the US, Europe, Japan or Australia. The same applies to middle-class Brazilians.
- Chile does not receive much illegal migration due to the Andes mountain range and harsh desert climatic conditions. However, due to the deterioration of the Venezuelan economy, many moved to Chile. But Chilean authorities have stopped the movement and changed her visa policies for Venezuelans.
- Education is expensive in Chile, free in Argentina and Brazil. But Brazil has a national exam every applicant must take to be admitted.
- Uruguay is also prosperous since the population is smaller, ditto land mass. Uruguay has less influence in the region. They export a lot of agricultural products to Europe and China.
- Due to colonialism which made South American societies to be unequal in wealth distribution. Many politicians promote socialism and leftist economic policies as ways to solve the problem. However, in the long run, things tend to be worse. He believes the inequality in the region can only be solved through a "China-style" government where one party holds power for at least 50 years and solves the problems head-on using different ways.
- Argentina's economic problems are beyond his thought process. However, Argentines rarely emigrate illegally.
- Peru, Ecuador and Colombia have gang problems due to drug trafficking.
- Paraguay is not actually bad as I thought, but Bolivia is terrible.

Due to ancestry relations, he got naturalised as an Italian and even voted in the national election. But if he ever moves to Europe, he won't go to Italy since it is much poorer. Either Switzerland or Germany. On the other hand, no educated Brazilian or Chilean goes to Spain and Portugal because the employment opportunities are extremely lower. Rather, Spaniards and Portuguese move to Brazil and Chile for employment opportunities.

pansophist:
Please observe the following realities on the ground.

1.
They have arrived, and they will take their place, and the global south will align behind them. It is only a matter of time.

ng but a guard dog to the Chinese and the host state interest, or otherwise, it will expose its true aim as an occupying force for what it is.
my on earth and is not interested in fighting wars outside its vicinity. In the event of a war, can the US actually defeat China in its territory?

Do not overestimate the US, and underestimate the new sheriff in town. The world is undergoing a huge paradigm shift, and it is not in favor of the US hegemony.

The map is staggering!!!!

Long live the CCP.

Sometimes, when I see posts like this and others, I smile. It can never be me. Not just possible. I hate being accused wrongly, and worst of it, apologise for what I did not do.

But for imagination's sake; I will ask, if I don't apologise, what will you do?

Botragelad:
Again,I already gave you reasons why I think these new kids on the block can get no close to US present position of world dominance.
You just be a clown if you think the US cares only about LGBTQ rights in the Arab countries and the continent I mentioned! You're having a laugh.The US has and share many other interests in those regions, such as oil, trade, security, and democracy. It's a superpower that wants to

And please don't twist my words, I didn't say Africans have no say in geopolitics. I was just responding to your claim that Europe is about to become a failed and poorest continent. I gave you some reasons why that's unlikely to happen, and how Africa is still way behind Europe in most aspects. That's not an insult, that's a fact . So I was kind of telling you to self reflect.

Show me where I stated that Europe is going to be a failed and poor continent?

If this is where you got it from:

So Europe, like Japan and Korea, would face severe demographic problems. However, Europe's own would be worse because the migrants have distinctive cultures, and Europe is abut to the world's poorest continent.

Please check the meaning of "abut" before accusing me wrongly. We are on the same Internet.

oluyemi123:
An Adult made a decision to go to Chile,Some Adults in other countries want to crucify him or just to show that they are Resident in better country and some other Adult still stuck in Nigeria are still crucifying him when some are not even sure they will step outside Nigeria the way the exchange rate keeps soaring up. For the Adults in other better country as they believe why don't you bring the OP to where you are living when he was still struggling in Nigeria? Let allow the man to rest and share his experience peace please,if you have suggestion to make Chile pleasant for him tell him and not all this unnecessary bashing.

To be fair, they have the right to oppose his choice of Chile. However, they should not lie about it. That has been my stance. It is unrealistic to expect everyone to support or like a decision you made. However, they should bring superior reasons for opposing it rather than lying.

Botragelad:
Haha. Emotional much, eh!
China and Indonesia might pose a threat to US world power and dominance like you claim, but at the same time they might not stop the US dominance.

I did not say the dominance of the US will stop, but rather decline as there are new kids on the block.

This is because it(The US) still has many advantages and allies. World's largest and most advanced economy, with a strong innovation and entrepreneurship culture. World's most powerful and influential military, with a global network of bases and alliances.

Agreed. I already stated it.

Many allies and partners in Europe, Asia, Africa, and Latin America, who share its values and interests.

What values does the US share with the Middle East, India and African countries? How a man should fvck another man? How to enable children as young as three choose their genders? Those values? How to bully a country simply because she declined to promote marriage between two men?

The US can leverage its strengths and alliances to counter the challenges posed by China or Indonesia, as well as to cooperate with them on common issues. Easy!

The US is not interested in cooperation. That is the problem. The mantra is "compete, but when you are winning, I want you to recede. Don't out-compete me". That is not cooperation but acts of bullying.

Well, europe's birth decline rate does not really affect the US, because it does not necessarily mean that Europe is becoming weaker or less relevant. Europe's birth rate has been falling for decades, due to various factors such as urbanization, education, contraception,and changing lifestyles. Yeah,it poses a risk, however, the continent is still a major economic and political force in the world, with a high standard of living, yeah, strong rule of law, and a leading role in global institutions.

It does affect as the EU as the US strongest ally. The EU market becomes more stratified and less dynamic. She becomes less attractive for investments compared to India or Indonesia. Low birth rates affect almost developed countries except Israel, and they come with negative effects. Yes, the EU is a major force to be reckoned. But with a declining population vis-a-vis a decline in global GDP, Indonesia might ask why she is still interested in heading the IMF?

Europe is also a close ally and partner of the US on many issues such as trade, security, democracy, human rights, climate change, and development. It can cope with its demographic challenges by implementing reforms to boost its productivity. Not much of a problem!

The US is actually more productive than the EU especially it accepts more skilled migrants. Productivity does not consume goods and services. It is like automation and robotics, yes, they promote higher productivity. But robots don't pay taxes or contribute to the social pension scheme.

Germany needs them(immigrants) to sustain its economy and society. The country has one of the lowest birth rates in Europe which means that its population is shrinking and ageing,just like you said. At the same time it's one of the country with the largest economy in Europe which means that it needs workers to fill its labour market gaps and maintain its growth.

Agreed.

The decline in birth rate or the importation of immigrants does not make, neither will it Europe the poorest continent because these factors do not determine the wealth or poverty of a region. Wealth or poverty depends on many other factors such as natural resources,human capital,technology, Infrastructure, institutions,governance, trade,
and innovation.

Please check the comment above about the pension scheme. A declining population does not necessarily equate to poverty but a gradual decline in living standards, less taxes, less consumption and more social spending since there is a huge proportion of the elderly. Also, unlike the US immigration or Japan, the immigrants in the EU, especially as she abuts the Middle East are culturally, linguistically, religiously and even racially distinct from the natives. These are worries Europeans lament about on the Telegraph and Financial Times. They write about the rising crime rates and decaying social trust in society. Formerly liberal regarding immigration, Denmark has tightened its policies. Funny enough, this was done by a liberal party which espouses an open-door immigration. Others are apeing her because of the social problems accompanied by the policy.

An article by American academics about Africa's population rise and how it affects Europe: https://www.hoover.org/research/africa-2050-demographic-truth-and-consequences

Europe has many advantages in these areas. I think Africa is what you should focus your energy on because most countries in the continent are lacking way behind! LMAO!

We may as well shut down the thread since you believe Africans should have no say on anything geopolitics. You are actually the one who is emotional, not me.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
China is still playing the long game. once they are ready,, they will invade Taiwan & annex Hong Kong..

while Russia is moving boldly 2 recover her USSR territories & @ the same time hitting US/EU in Africa thanks 2 US/EU trying 2 isolate moscow.

China already owns Hong Kong. Westerners wailed when their attempt to foment trouble in HK did not succeed as planned. The UK signed a deal with China in 1997 to let HK practice the "One country, two systems" till 2047. Then all of a sudden, trouble started in the name of "democracy" in HK. Articles were penned several times about how Hong Kong would fail and people would leave (people did leave, though). But the city is booming again as many Mainland Chinese youths are taking over the places left by over-pampered Westerners and ignorant Chinese who migrated to the UK. I will never forget the comments on the SCMP where a Singaporean Chinese wrote that almost half of the HKs who opted for the BNO offer by Boris Johnson then moved back to HK due to the high cost of living, different food and culture and crime rates they experienced in the UK. Some Westerners moved to Singapore, which is as pragmatic and Chinese as HK. The cost of living choked, and most have relocated back to Hong Kong. So Hong Kong is China, and any deviation plunges her into poverty.

As for Taiwan, it is a different ball game. But if the Chinese can hold forth and play the long game, they should get it back before 2040. Heck, the Taiwanese have fewer options as their birth rate is lower than China and the economy is tied to China. Stablise the economy, ensure newer chips are produced, and secure food and oil supplies. Then strike. Kpata Kpata, disgruntled Taiwanese would be told to relocate to Japan.

Botragelad:
All countries fight for their dominance one way or the other, but some are more successful than others. Arab countries still price their oil in dollars because of a historical agreement they made with the United States in the 1970s. In return for US military and political protection and purchases of its oil, Saudi Arabia agreed to price oil in dollars and hold reserves partly in Treasury bonds. Other oil exporters followed suit. The Saudis also kept their currency exchange rate linked to the dollar. So!

They can't easily switch to other currencies because the dollar is still the world's reserve currency, which means that many countries use it for trade and savings. This gives the US an advantage. It makes the dollar more stable and liquid than other currencies, which reduces the risk and cost of oil transactions. If Arab countries tried to price their oil in other currencies, they would face resistance from their customers and competitors, as well as possible retaliation from the US.

The US doesn't sanction countries because the dollar is the world's reserve currency, but because it wants to influence their behavior and policies. The US sanctions countries that violate human rights, sponsor terrorism, threaten its interests. etc. Though, sometime we don't agree with their sanctions.

Any country that chooses to stop using the dollar or ditch the dollar is at its own loss, because it would lose access to the largest and most powerful market in the world. It would also face difficulties in finding alternative sources of finance, trade, and investment, risk being isolated from the international community and facing more sanctions from the US and its allies. It would also have to deal with the volatility and uncertainty of other currencies, which could harm its economy and stability. Why would any country want to go through all of that?

That is why China, India and the rest have to grow so there be options for countries not interested in the so-called liberal order to thrive. If Russia could be ostracised, how much more South Africa or India?

The so-called International Community is not "international", as the name connotes. USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel and the EU cannot be categorised as International Community when over 4BN people live outside that appellation. As I write, Japan is buying crude from Russia, but India was lampooned for doing the same because she is going against the "international community's" sanctions against Russia. Even Ukraine is still being paid money by Russia for gas which passes through. The UAE is now home to Russian capital, but Africans are criticised for accepting Russian grains

Here are two articles I read on the Financial Times:

"The new commodity superpowers": https://archive.md/EcJcB
"How China cornered the market for clean tech": https://archive.md/qvRuy

In summary, the Europeans are aghast that China has the foresight to be prosperous and think long-term. You need to read the comments - they are afraid, disappointed and disgusted that the Chinese took advantage of a policy they enacted. China has secured almost every material used in EV production, from battery to chassis. China dominates the supply chain from start to finish. To show European arrogance, they sued Indonesia to the WTO because she demanded miners process the raw materials in the country before export. On the other hand, Chinese miners - the majority in the country - opened factories to process the mines. No complaints. Tell me, as an ordinary Indonesian, who would you prefer? The boldness of the Indonesians emboldened Namibia and Zambia to do the same thing. This is why I want China to succeed - let there be options for smaller countries to align with and prosper in the end. Unlike decades ago, the West cannot barge into a country and topple their leaders, just like Mohammad Mosaddegh was in Iran.

Furthermore, unlike the US, Europe cannot cut off China economically. It would result in the decline of profits by European companies - Volkswagen, BASF, Bayer, LVMH, Mercedes, AstraZeneca etc - and overall destruction of the EU economy. The French and Germans know this, but the Anglo-Saxons are adamant that ties should be broken. Where LVMH wan generate billions in revenue other than China? Africa? Literally, all the major European companies generate a third of their total revenues from the Chinese market. European countries that reject Chinese capital tend to perform poorly - the UK and Italy are notable examples.

These folks are angry that the Chinese aren't subservient as the Japanese were during the Plaza Accord.

Botragelad:
Nice thread......
I think it is possible that the United States will still be the world power in the next 100 years. Large and diverse economy, which accounts for about a quarter of the global GDP, strong military presence, with hundreds of overseas bases and alliances with many countries, vibrant culture, which influences many aspects of global entertainment, media, education, and innovation, resilient political system, which allows for peaceful transitions of power and checks and balances among different branches of government.

They also have a history of adapting to new international realities, such as the rise of China, the challenges of climate change, and the threats of terrorism.
In reality, the United States faces many challenges and uncertainties in this 21st century, and it cannot take its global leadership for granted. It will have to compete with other emerging powers, such as China, India, Brazil, and maybe Nigeria which will have larger populations and economies by 2050.

Still, I see no one taking that position they hold!

While I agree that the US economy is doing very fine compared to her peers, I don't see her dominating the world for the next century as she has for the past century. One is the rise of China and other emerging powers like India and Indonesia. While both I countries are not like China economically, their population and growth of economies mean they would grow clout and demand a greater share in global affairs. Every country outside the West witnesses how China is bullied unjustly and falsely simply because she decides to prosper. The same fate awaits India and Indonesia; I wager they are preparing for it. The US and her allies would have to share global prominence. A unipolar world cannot continue to exist.

Europe's population (America's greatest ally) and, in fact, all of America's allies have rapidly declining birth rates which affect GDP growth, consumption and investment. They use immigration to offset this problem, but in reality, immigration does not solve the birth decline. It only solves population crises. For instance, in the '90s, Germany imported Turks to work in factories and bolster the workforce. Today, the same Germany is inviting immigrants, mostly from Arabian countries, to replace ageing workers. Additionally, Europe's immigration problems are social in nature. Even though I am an immigrant where I am, I don't believe in an open-door immigration system as the Europeans do, especially from cultures which are in stark difference from the native ones. So Europe, like Japan and Korea, would face severe demographic problems. However, Europe's own would be worse because the migrants have distinctive cultures, and Europe is abut to the world's poorest continent.

In some ways, I see it as karma after all the Europeans divided Africa for their spoils. So, they should benefit from the current invasion just as they did to Africa. Also, since they have blatantly refused to appropriately aid Africa's industrialisation just as they did with East Asia and now with South East Asia, anything they see, they should take it like that.

Botragelad:
The US national debt is the amount of money that the US government owes to its creditors, such as other countries, investors, and the Federal Reserve. The debt is mainly caused by spending more than it collects in taxes, especially during wars, recessions, and pandemics. Now, the debt ceiling is actually the legal limit on how much the US government can borrow to pay its bills. If the debt ceiling is not raised or suspended, the US government would/might run out of money and default on its obligations, which could cause a global financial crisis.

The debt ceiling was suspended until 2025 by Congress in June 2023, after a long political standoff. This means that the US government can borrow as much as it needs to pay its existing debts and obligations for two more years, without worrying about hitting the limit. After the suspension ends, the debt ceiling will automatically be raised to reflect how much was borrowed during the suspension period. This was done to avoid a potential default and to give more time for lawmakers to agree on a long-term fiscal plan.

The national debt you speak about does not [b]really pose a threat to its status as a world power, because it still has a strong and diverse economy. One, the US dollar is also the world's reserve currency, which means that many countries use it for trade and savings. This gives the US an advantage in borrowing and paying its debt. The US does not have to sell its assets as its national debt rises, because it can always print more money or issue more bonds to finance its debt. However, this could also lead to inflation. But still, that doesn't pose much of a threat,not enough to take them off their feet[/b]!
Understood?

That is the major reason she is defending the dollar dominance. I don't see Arab countries pricing oil in dollars, but should countries continue to be bullied and sanctioned because the dollar is the world's reserve, options would be searched. There is a limit to bullying other countries.

The debt crisis is not a problem as people say. Even Japan, which has a much bigger debt-to-GDP ratio, is not serious as some opine since the majority is owed to the Japanese rather than foreign creditors.

VeeVeeMyLuv:
According to them, because he is a hard real man, not like Goodluck that is humane, sof.

Now see these iron benders have been bending Nigerians destiny since 2015

You mean the same people who voted Buhari in 2015, and supported his policies till 2023 suddenly thought it wise to vote for another strong man?

Anyway, I can never pity an Agbadorian, passive or active. I rather die than do so.

pansophist:
Since the beginning of time, lions have slaughtered generations upon generations of antelope, still, antelope still cant hold lions responsible.

If you don't get it, forget about it

I was thinking what if I create a thread on China's economic dominance and characteristics where we share articles periodically, screenshots of comments and share our thoughts on it?

For instance: https://archive.md/qvRuy It shows how China has dominated the clean energy industry from raw materials to refining.

Or maybe continue from one of your threads?

chatinent:
No all branches.

Standard graduate trainee recruitment pays that amount. It is not a branch affair.

I am really glad my people are holding grudges and reminding people of the posts they made. If he had supported Tinubu with a clear mind, no issues. But when you mock other ethnic groups, lampoon Peter Obi unjustly (who is way richer than him), anything you see, take it like that. Just as the monkeys who cursed Jonathan and faced economic repercussions when Buhari dealt with them. I am sure those donkeys would have praised Buhari to high heavens if he had not won the election. Talmbout, "Buhari is the best president Nigeria never had".

Going forward, people should learn from the 2023 elections. Hold grudges, don't forgive or forget. Hold those grudges till you die! Don't pity Nigerians who voted for Emi Lokan whatsoever. When people play stoopid games, they should be allowed to win stoopid prizes. That is the fairest thing to do.

chatinent:
One would wonder the millions Access Bank pay!

The only entry level job that pays millions exists in the oil and gas industry. Access Bank pays entry staff very well by Nigerian standards. Before Covid, it was 250K per month. It should be over 300K now.

tensazangetsu20:
You are an agbadorian too . I guess you dont live in Nigeria. Like I have said since 2020, I give you guys till November . Reforms my ass

And if he does, he has an American passport. See why I called them demons?! It is glaring for all to see. These people are demonic, no ifs or buts, period!

The Agbadorian mentioned reforms, the same reforms his cocaine lord kicked against when Jonathan introduced them in 2012 and supported a feudal terrorist to be Nigeria's president three years later.

These people are deluded!

Englishisamust:
Even though, I voted for him. lets come to reality. i dont understand again!!!!

I am genuinely curious, why did you vote for Bola Ahmed Tinubu?

P.S. I am not trying to mock you, I am just curious. It is your right to vote for whoever you like/want, but the curiosity in me wants to know why.

Shapiru:
baba show me no dey drop quote

That kind of hallway can be found in top-tier private universities in Nigeria - Covenant, Atiku's university in Yola, ABUAD, Baze etc. However, the Nigerian passport does not confer unrestricted access on her holders to the US labour market. That is the difference.

Most people are just hating on him because he found an easy, STRAIGHTFORWARD and affordable means to get to the US. The demon above me is envious his touts in Brazil don't have the same opportunity rather than going through the Darien Gap. Let those buffons get the same opportunity as Tensa20 and watch him smile demonically.

I don't know of other companies sha, but I seriously doubt McKinsey Nigeria would employ a business analyst from a state university. If such happens, then such a candidate must be extremely STELLAR. CGPA 5.0, 10 awards from God knows where, 5 solid extra-mural activities with global prominence etc.

chatinent:
It's after the school they'll understand that the epileptic system in Nigeria doesn't really give a flying f about the school you attended.

That is not true. Some schools are favoured over others. Access Bank, I don't know about now, WOULD never allow graduates from most state universities to write her aptitude test. I think only Gombe State University and LASU graduates were allowed then. It is why for some courses, especially Law, if it is not from a federal university or state university like LASU/RSU or private uni like ABUAD, the person better re-write JAMB again.

All universities are not equal. Some are more equal than others.

tensazangetsu20:
Na only the downtrodden you dey meet everytime

The same way, he met illegal migrants from Nigeria who tried to emigrate to the US from Brazil via the Darien gap. If those Nigerians had a BSc, and know a bit of Portuguese, nothing would stop them from getting a job in Brazil, save money and move to the US via a structured and legal process.

tensazangetsu20:
You are derailing this thread. Can you create a new thread and put this all there?

To be fair, he has the right to comment since it is a free-to-comment thread. The best you do is ignore the demon else your thread go be like that of DanielHouston. Update as usual, but never forget to be petty, I beg of you.