₦airaland Forum

Onix01:
This is surprising to have such a defeating message from the group that boasted of crippling the crude oil production to zero. It's too early to leave this fun-thrilled party. Like I said sometimes, the Government might have the last laugh. I pray the leaders of NDA wise-up on time so as not to loose on both side. God Bless Nigeria and the Niger Delta region.

Their ranks will soon be infiltrated cos of greed, they claim to be fighting for the niger deltans but alas their true motives is beginning to unfold.

You can't take up arms against your country and begin to call the international community to your rescue, its a contradiction.

NavierStokes:
At the bolded part of my statement, I am sure you saw the word "relative", like I said boko haram had relatively little effect on the economy, every one was going about their activities and crying for the loss of lives, right now bro the effects of these guys is yet to be felt, cos the reduced production when not available for export in the coming months will see our forex reserves dropping much further, deficits biting deeper, military spending increased etc. Allow fiscal federalism and see each unit becime more efficient, in the areas they possess comparative and absolute advantages. Each state can focus on what she does best and overall efficiency increases with more returns to the centre.
I am not surprised that the opposite is the case because MEDIOCRITY ALWAYS FEARS COMPETITION.

why did we not hear all this calls during the last administration? is it only when a northern President is in power, we suddenly remember true federalism? The truth is the present violence in the niger delta is not about true federalism but cries from those who no longer have access to our treasury like before.

let's stop supporting criminality by using the call for true federalism as a cover up for these bunch of criminals. The continuity of this violence will only push us off oil and begin to generate revenue from other sources, mind you the FG is not too affected, it is the states that are feeling the heat as their allocations continue to reduce.

NavierStokes:
Boko haram was strategic? What is my learned friend drinking , and may I have a little of that pls?
Boko haram has waged a war for several years with relatively no effect on the economy, these boys are striking at the very core of the economy. We all wish it never came to this, I mean destruction of assets. But I put it to you that you are already aware that no form of deliberations in this national assembly will bring about the desired outcome. How many south south legislators are there, even with their minority numbers INEC has seen to most of them being indefinitely out of the chamber by refusing to recognize or reconduct their elections. Machiavelli says the end justifies the means so the government can chose to do the right thing which everyone agrees is best of they can chose to make every one suffer like they didwith the currency since lAst year only to change their mind later. No one defeats an idea whose time has come and you can never defeat an idea with force, but with a superior idea.
The way I see it these boys have time like the government and have carefully prepared for this in the years of peace, while government was expanding her armoury on boko haram.

you say boko haram had no effect on the economy? oh boy you fall my hand, do you know how much of our earnings as a nation has been expended in the last few years to fight boko haram without any returns on investment? do you how much that means to the economy, is it because oil prices were good in GEJ's time that you think boko haram had no effect on our economy. This is the problem we have, we think everything is oil. Do you know many farmlands and produce have been lost to bokoharam insurgency? You think those in IDP camps never had a source of livelihood? Please think again, if boko haram was not affecting our economy, GEJ will not not spend so much fighting boko haram, reason PMB is trying to avoid force on the NDA especially with the financial situation of the country despite all the provocations.

The NDA are criminals and with time, they will be decimated just like boko haram, break up within their ranks as a result of greed will be the starting point bruv.

This just shows how confused the Niger delta region is, gosh! fighting those believed to be on their side. I see an implosion within the region soon.

NavierStokes:
That is not true, there are various groups in the struggle at the moment, Avengers are not in talks with anybody and they have said it " if the government is negotiating with anyone, they are on their own".
That corruption statement is highly laughable, if it did happen I see it as some politicians who view this as a golden opportunity to do some bargaining.

My colleagues and friends from the onset have said these boys want to be settled but the way this appears it's bigger than we all can see, cos of they were after some pounds or dollars they will not cause damages to this extent.

I strongly believe that if government dangles fiscal federalism before them, they can come down from the high ground of "sovereignty".

If you will be honest with yourself, these boys are nothing like we have ever seen almost the world over. All their hits have been strategic, imagine one hit taking out all of agips swamp area production, one hit taking out eroton, aiteo, newcross and energia's productions.

The government can keep living a lie but I think at this point even tompolo and mend both understand and agree that there is a new kid on the block.

Am amazed with the way you guys are defending these criminals, boko haram were also strategic in their operations too in their hey days. The true federalism talk is just being used to blackmail this govt and its all political as this is what majority of those who dined with GEJ but dislike PMB are saying. if the Niger delta truly wants true federalism, what are their lawmakers in both the senate and HOR doing to push that agenda?

You guys can keep hailing the NDA but not many of us are buying their lies that would soon expire

blackmatter007:
Really, if i may ask, is NDA the group that threatened Nigeria with missiles on selected buildings? Is NDA the group that the federal government is currently dialoguing with? Why did bombs go off after the governors made their stupid demands? Why did yhe bombs go off after the FG called for a cease fire and dialogue?

If truly all that you have said is correct, the bombings would have stopped , they would have tabled the issue long before the governors made it known to the government. Don't be deceived, they (the governors) are after their interest and not the common niger delta man meanwhile NDA is after the common man's interest amd they have stuck to their demands since the beginning of their bombing campaign.

FYI, NDA is an independent group unanswerable to any governor or government, they have made their demands and if not met, they will continue bombings.

So many militant groups are sprouting from here and there, it doesn't mean they represent NDA, everyone of them is on their own! Don't mix them up, they are different groups representing same or different interests.

stop patronizing me, all that you have said shows that the Niger delta region is confused and don't know what they really want but its obvious that the bombings escalated with the increase in the arrests of persons by the EFCC. Please stop the lies, NDA is not after any common man's interest, let's stop glorifying the activities of criminals that are hell bent in destroying our nation because of their greed. The FG knows their true demands and is just allowing them time before they will be finally exposed and dealt with. You can't take up arms against your country all in the name of fighting for the common man. Boko haram had their day and has been decimated and will continued to be so.

blackmatter007:
SMH you are indeed a lost soul, a.k.a zombie.

Don't quote me again pls

you are indeed the one lost cos not many are buying your lies

blackmatter007:
There is no need for dialogue, they have listed their demands, how many have been attended to? The marine university, what about it? Has nnamdi kanu been released? The oil blocks, how many licences have been repealed?, What about true federalism? Instead buhari rubbed the sheit on their faces and told the world that he had trashed the confab report!

Tell me what more dialogue they need? Attend to the most important and reasonable demands of theirs and you will see the bombings go away.

You are too blind a follower, wisen up!!!

stop the lies, what they want is for the charges against tompolo and co to be dropped in order to avoid the implication of GEJ. The Niger delta folks are not interested in any development in whatever form, all those marine university stories are for the gods, do you think they care with all the loots they have gotten during GEJ's reign? They are not ready to part with any loot at all, hence the blackmail. They just added the Nnamdi kanu part to patronize the se for their support which they are getting but what is up-most in their mind is for all corruption charges against all Niger delta persons to be dropped, chikena. Some of us are not fooled with their useless demands on paper.

jaz:
Last time I checked nigerians are gullible and only after their meal ticket even if it means garri and sugar. Won't be surprised if by 2018 I start hearing chants that Atiku is the man to take us to paradise and beyond.

you are right, Nigerians are not just gullible but easily panders to any 'ghana must go bag' politicians, we are our own greatest undoing, suddenly atiku campaign has started. God help us in this country that is almost getting irredeemable.

blackmatter007:
You are entitled to your opinion man.

But if you think Jonathan didnt want to implement true federalism, why call for a conference in the first place?

Have you thought about that before you begin ranting about how they purchased this and that.

Man your argument is bland, old and boring but like i said, you are entitled to your opinion!

stop the blackmail please, the NDA ish is about the FG dropping all charges of corruption against all persons from the Niger delta region. It has nothing to do with federalism or ownership of oil blocks. Reason they are not interested in dialogue, even the FG knows this.

Keshi, till today we are still battling to replace you as coach of super eagles, this is a testimony to your uncommon character as coach. Rest in peace big boss though my heart is broken.

My heart is broken. Oh no keshi you remain my number one Nigerian soccer hero.

Tears, sob sob

erico2k2:
Your arguments was making sense until your last paragraph. Economic downturn has always existed. It takes a brilliant mind for the people not to feel the full effect.

have we ever had this kind of economic downturn in recent times? Like I said earlier, Let's keep politics out if we want to be truly objective

erico2k2:
Ok I challenge you Name anybody in the past present or future that you think was better than them ova to you. Don't just shout lies put your money where ur mouth is
Name them.

since 1999, every successive govt have been having brilliant minds in its cabinet, obj had the likes of soludo, oby ezekeweli, el rufai, segun agagu and others. Yar adua had Dora Akinyuli, Godwin Abbe, Rilwanu Lukman and co.

The problem with some of you guys is that it was in the Jonathan administration that some of you were old enough to assess how brilliant the ministers are, Nigeria have been having very brilliant ministers from time, the likes of olukoye ransome kuti comes to mind and joe garba.

This present cabinet have lots of brilliant guys, just the economic downturn is making them look bad, if the Jonathan ministers were the ones in now, they will not look better. Let's stop playing politics and be more objective.

erico2k2:
I did read it well.I am saying we might not have better persons than the stated obvious. Who can you name?
Definitely we can check the CV of the past guys. We need people who can deliver not trial error.

Lies as if Nigeria has not been running before the previous guys, oh we just go our independence when those former ones got on board abi?

This is our problem, the inability to move on from the past.

sparrowkid:
Because of N5 difference? Na so we poor reach for this our country?

we are indeed a poor nation bruv, never mind the jeeps you see on nigerian roads, that N5 difference means a lot for many people including the jeep owners

erico2k2:
I think you have the wrong arguments
The right argument should be are these guys we have there the right ones for the JOB
These positions requires more than text book applications it now requires knowledge derived from expirence. We as a Nation have progressed from 1980s

you did not read my post well, I said if the present ones are failing, they can give way to other Nigerians and not these former ones, are they the only ones with experience?

Are you saying we can never have better ones than the adeshinas and others? This is where I disagree, reason we keep recycling public officials and we keep complaining

All these calls for GEJ goons to come back to power just after one year shows that some fellows can't just let go after all. If the present ones are not delivering, definitely they can give way for other Nigerians out there but to bring back same folks in a country of over a 100 million means we are just interested in making strong men instead of strong institutions. This is why we keep having strong cabals holding us to ransom always.

Secondly I can see those folks are not jobless in the first place, they have since moved on to other accomplishments so why can't we move on here too.

@the op, GEJ supporters can never answer your questions without insults either for you or PMB so its a waste of time engaging them in an intellectual discourse like this, we were all here when our economy started dwindling towards the end of GEJ tenure when NOI told us that FG were finding it difficult to pay salaries and things may not improve. The symptoms were already showing then, right now politics is what is being played now by the opposition and GEJ sympathizers by taking advantage of the economic downturn to see how they can incite Nigerians against PMB and the avengers are doing just that to push their luck further. Majority of Nigerians including the opposition know the truth about our economy but politics of bitterness will never allow for any objectivity.

NNPC, omole, N140 chai come and see queue on saturday evening, no be small thing o

Fayose has abandoned Governance for politics, very soon his own people will soon start kicking against him as all his antics trying to incite his ekiti and nigerians against PMB will soon expire. Its only a matter of time.

Oloshi, these are the guys NDA should be bombing. A whole former minister of Niger delta ministry with nothing to show for the development of the region.

Orubebe you are partial, 'we will not take it'

Even if 1 trillion was recovered, wailers will still wail nothing ever will satisfy them. Sore losers

Ruke1989:
its a pity in the whole of Nigeria, only a Yoruba man stick to this irrational way of reasoning. not strange to me because this line of argument makes sense only to an ethnic bigot

You guys are the ethnic bigots and ungrateful lots, if not for obj, there will be no Jonathan but you guys berate the man all the time as the source of your problems. The Yorubas have done a lot for you guys especially with the way Jonathan ascended as a acting President but what do we get, insults, abuses and all sorts.

No one can never be sympathetic to your cause again. You are on your own, ungrateful bunch

All these stories we have been hearing over the years even before GEJ became President. These stories were the ones that made the likes of tompolo and asari billionaires.

Am sorry for the ijaws especially since they have produced an head of state, all these stories can't make many Nigerians be sympathetic to their plight like before. Those years of pampering are gone especially since all entreaties for them to drop violence are falling on deaf ears. Sorry these kind of stories can't move some of us any longer. They had their chances.

Has the odemwinge wannabe been finally allowed to greet the President? someone should please inform me when he has finally greeted the President.

Am a guy and I just wanna make common sense!

Propaganda gone bad, I feel so sorry for the priest, see how he has been forced to release a press statement on his mission to that area.

My se brothers need to calm down before they start turning against themselves and their communities.

HammerEvery:
Stop shouting 'emotional' everywhere like a fuckeroid, you are cowardly and cowardice is engineered by emotions! You afraid of going hungry in an oil-less oduduwa, that emotion too!

So buzz off into eternal fuckery!

There is no fear here mhen, we can't just afford the amount of refugees from your end when reality dawns, the south east and south south are not that united. The itsekiri/urhobo war years back is a testimony to that, imagine if these tribes are now in a new country. The caste system in the east is a platform for dis unity in a new country. let's stop deceiving ourselves, most ethnic groups in Nigeria are not too united to form a country, reason south sudan is in a mess.

asorocker:
if soviet Union broke up without much fanfare , then what is Nigeria that the country can not easily be divided for prosterity sake, i think some people still have reason to think we are still in 1960 where countries are bound to remain one as long as the colonial powers want , but all thas changed so much that even the colonial powers them selves are breaking up into smaller countries , Soviet union has broken up , United kindom will follow suit

The countries that broke out of soviet union, can you tell me how well they are faring today? The thing sweet to talk for mouth but when reality dawns, its a bucket full of regrets. The south sudan I mentioned earlier is the most recent in history and not in the 1960s you are talking about, mhen, its a sorry tale for south sudan a fellow african country.

HammerEvery:
You are morally bankrupt, stay in your own country without leeching to other region or your long throat will kill you stupidly. It's very simple! Maybe the north have finally put on their thinking cap. Unions can not be forced.
If you get your own oduduwa and want to turn it into south sudan. It's your cup of Agbo jedi.

Nigeria will never divide cos even you cannot afford the consequences, we are all just emotional not objective, I understand and feel your pain but we are not telling ourselves the real truth.

prinsam30:
OP what exactly do you want me to comment on this pishures now

just waka pass

Nigeria can never divide in peace, we keep deceiving ourselves in this country. How can you suddenly wake up suddenly in a place you have been living and working all your life and then you will be asked to procure work or residential permit. Most of us saying nigeria will divide are just emotional and not objective. I advise all to read on south sudan who became a country in 2011 and have been fighting civil war since 2013 till today with millions of displaced people in a so called new independent country.

Our main problem is to have a moral code with which to conduct our affairs as a country, if you like create regions, its still the same politicians that will be in charge of the regions and they still will continue to steal all our money whether 13%, 50% or 100% derivation or what have of you.

We are morally bankrupt as a nation and until we fixed that, we are joking.