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omokab:
My own point on this is that both of them were saying the same a good thing. Amechi is right on the fact that, the fraud level on the project is too high. While allowing the looters to have as saying on a project like this. Kachukwu on the other hands is looking for a soft landing to allowing him continue his job so that the militant will stop blowing the pipeline and allow the economy to grow. This University issue is one the conditions given to federal government to stop blowing pipelines in the Niger delta. I think the best thing to do Is allowing the university project to go on and continue tracing the fraud so that peace will reign. Then, somebody up there said kachukwu as a minister should know the cost of valuing land, it doesn't work like that bcs he's not a valuer. He dosnt know anything about land valuation. Truely, he may know that the cost is outrageous but is not his duty.

well said, both ministers truly meant well.

Op, I understand your points here but I think Kachikwu is trying to be diplomatic here to prevent more pipeline bombings, he is the one on the hot seat more than Amaechi and he is trying to balance out Amaechi's point.

Both Amaechi and Kachikwu means well for the Nation, let's stop allowing the haters of this govt to score cheap political points and make the south south issues more tensed than it is right now. Nigeria must work.

I stand with Nigeria instead of either Amaechi or Kachikwu who are both working for the interests of their beloved nation.

instead of the afenifere guys to be praying they won't go and join ffk where he is, they are spewing rubbish here.

In fact if I am ffk and afenifere does nothing to get me out of where I am, I go just de mention the amount all the afenifere goons collected one by one during the campaigns last year.

awon ole buruku

fleshbone:
I guess Buhari's meeting with so many Clergy lately to christanizing Nigeria is beginning to hold water. Just Saying.

we will not take it, PMB wants to christianise Nigeria, he has an agenda

olutunde12:
You want to die cos of gej? For heaven's sake the man is all over doing well. We have the right to air our views. Go and die if you dont want us to. But pls before then remember to tell buhari that the courts want to see his certificate for perusal.

including lies that no work is going on ba?

IVORY2009:
Lie Mohammed again, this early mor mor




If Mr Buhari wants the people to take his Government seriously, this man Mr Lai Mohammed needs to be substituted, becos he is the image maker of the Government, and when 99.9% of the people don't seems to have confidence in him, due to the numerous lies he has been peddling in the days of campaign, then this govt of Buhari will be taken as a mere joker by the people whenever he comes out to speak and represent the govt of the day!!

Have you verified his claims before coming up with this, that you hate lai mohammed does not mean he should not inform the public of what is currently happening. You guys inability to separate politics from the hard facts is making you and your fellow wailers a laughing stock. Many contractors are back on site but for hatred for the Govt will even make the contractors look invisible to you even if they are in front of you physically.

It looks better if you criticize the quality of the work on those sites going on than coming up with all these tales about lai mohammed

Kacikwu is employing diplomatic tact to prevent more blowing up of the pipelines while amaechi still have his grievances against those who never wanted him to be minister. its all politics, only children will be making noise here on this forum.

Diezani is trying hard to use her previous working experience in shell to justify her looting. I don't blame her though, I blame gullible Nigerians especially those supporting her who feel that those working in shell are rich like Bill gates.

Arrant nonsense.

mensdept:
What identity what culture? Do you know why Nigeria was created by White Folks and given the name Nigg.a Area? Take some time to think about it

you see your problem? am talking about the different ethnic groups we have, is it the whites that founded the yorubas or igbos and gave them names?

Yea Nigeria was created, so what do you want to create, ask south sudan and they will tell you more bruv.

63xtr63r:
A selfish, greedy and wicked people have no good thing to offer...

Read this comment from Yoruba OPC founder:

"That President Goodluck Jonathan allowed the opposition to flourish may be his greatest undoing, but it also succeeded in strengthening and deepening our democracy, making it a model for developing nations." - Fasehun
https://www.nairaland.com/3111640/nigeria-degenerated-since-took-over-fasehun

All the yoruba people you have been quoting are GEJ sympathetizers who most yorubas have lost respect for. You guys are ingrates, you only think of yourself and nobody more, reason it will be difficult for anybody from your region to become President cos you lack respect for other people's identity and culture. Am not surprised with your usual bashing.

Shukuakukobambi:
Honestly having experienced working in some of your communities in the Niger Delta, I feel pity for those of you that are earning good living doing honest work. Like you said, how do you flex while surrounded by guys who can't afford a bottle of beer?

This is the grouse I have with GEJ. Why in earth did he not do something lasting in the ND despite the luck of selling oil for so much and being a son of the soil? Nothing stopped a small power plant of say 40MW being built in each senatorial zone of the ND to spur economic activities.

He had the chance but he blew it big time.

what they want in the niger delta is not development but cool cash which PMB is not ready to dole out like GEJ did.

Amberon11:
This is what we want. who are you to call us liars? you're in no position to do that. the bottom line is that Nigeria must as a matter of necessity adopt a modern system of government (true federalism) instead of the old archaic nonsense that oppresses and neglects the region that lays the golden eggs. Either true federalism or Nigeria ceases to be.

Niger delta boys are not ipobs, they won't give up.

you guys are jokers, you did not want true federalism when GEJ was in power but you suddenly wake up to remember true federalism when PMB assumed power.

As Nigeria was intact under GEJ so Nigeria will also be intact under PMB. Not even boko haram divided Nigeria talk less of NDA.

you can continue to cry until thy kingdom come, PMB will finish his tenure just Like GEJ did.

hope ffk is not going to face Justice Abang, that judge de do people strong thing o!

is this why they are deactivating my data plan before it expires, mtn behave o!

63xtr63r:
Stop your blatant lies, it's stale already. That many Yorubas are wired at birth to not appreciate the good in other people should not be an excuse for you lots to continue in your deceit and wickedness.

"That President Goodluck Jonathan allowed the opposition to flourish may be his greatest undoing, but it also succeeded in strengthening and deepening our democracy, making it a model for developing nations." - Fasehun
https://www.nairaland.com/3111640/nigeria-degenerated-since-took-over-fasehun


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/obasanjo-11-years-needful-failed-nigeria-ameh-ebute/
 
https://www.nairaland.com/792619/thief-obasanjo-he-wrecked-nigeria/4

Without government connections and patronage, Wale Tinubu, Jimoh Ibrahim, Femi Otedola, Mike Adenuga etc. of Yoruba tribe will be nowhere today.

https://www.nairaland.com/3154645/yoruba-elders-accuse-buhari-marginalizing-south-favouring-north

https://www.nairaland.com/3152861/ekiti-drags-buhari-before-us-uk-amnesty-intl


In a post on his Facebook wall on Sunday, April 24, 2016, Mr. Okupe, who served Mr. Jonathan as a senior special assistant on public affairs, stated:
"Fielding Jonathan was a monumental mistake".
That the singular mistake made by the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) was the nomination of his boss for second term, despite the ample hint that that the north wanted power back at all cost.

This was the same Yoruba man that said if APC survives a year, he should be called a bastard.
The same person said over his dead body will Buhari rule Nigeria. 
 
This a person GEJ trusted.
https://www.nairaland.com/3067550/no-politician-alive-stand-buharis

Yorubas see backst*bbing and treachery as ways of life that despite the campaign of calumny and hatred championed by Yorubas against president GEJ, a supposed Ijaw man, was very liberal. GEJ guaranteed Yorubas freedom of speech and freedom after speech. GEJ did not go about assassinating perceived political opponents as was obtained in the previous regime of Obj, a Yoruba man (1999 - 2007).

GEJ performed far better than Obj, Yorubas do-or-die proponent whose despotic reign was marred with mass corruption, election rigging, financial recklessness and numerous failed projects brought the country into ruins.

Yorubas and their cohorts called GEJ
clueless, drunkard, Jonathan, Jonadunce etc.

GEJ allowed Yoruba opposition party to flourish and win elections across the country - a democratic dividend that their own Obj could not offer. Yorubas term themselves as being respectful yet they called GEJ unprintable names. They fabricated and concocted evils and sold them as news to the public just like the bigot so quoted is trying to do.

GEJ was peace-loving and liberal and never sent or forced any Yoruba person on compulsory exile despite all their arrogance and insults against his person.

GEJ was so liberal that in spite of the fact that his State and SS region produce the crude oil wealth for the sustenance of SW region and other parasitic States he allowed the parasitic ingrates to have their way.

https://www.nairaland.com/2795501/jonathan-constructed-more-roads-than

https://www.nairaland.com/2900791/jonathan-relegates-obasanjo-local-league

https://www.nairaland.com/2974748/jonathan-wins-african-leadership-magazine
https://www.nairaland.com/2976977/jonathan-beats-tinubu-koffi-anan

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/obasanjo-11-years-needful-failed-nigeria-ameh-ebute/
 
https://www.nairaland.com/792619/thief-obasanjo-he-wrecked-nigeria/4

you are just doing a failed image laundering for Jonathan, the yorubas were at the fore front of GEJ becoming the acting president of Nigeria after Yar adua died when the ss and se politicians were dining with turai when she held sway, no ss or se fellow including the coward militants apart from the late dora akinyuli were ready to stick out their neck or slug it out with the turai cabal who held the country hostage. It took elders like soyinka, falana, bakare and co to mount pressure for GEJ to emerge as acting President. It was after all these events, we started hearing about the likes of edwin clark and co who misled Jonathan. In 2011 elections, tinubu and the yorubas were not seen as betrayals cos of the support they gave GEJ then.

Am sorry, you GEJ sympathizers are ingrates who continue to bash the yorubas and keep ignoring GEJ's faults which led to his loss at the polls. if you fellows refuse to move on, please stop blaming us for your failures. it was the tribal bigotry that GEJ was playing that made obj gave on him after empowering militants to become billionaires to the detriment of the Niger delta region development

Amberon11:
Younare letting sentiments becloud your reasoning. I'm not talking about Tompolo and the likes. I'm talking about what the ND is agitating for. If you've read what they are campaigning for and still think its irrelevant and meaningless, then I'm sorry I cannot help you.

Resource control and true federalism is what we want. We cannot continue feeding the parasitic north whose only mission is to overpopulate the earth.

stop the lies please, this is just a cover up to continue their criminal acts. Why did they not agitate for the resource control and true federalism during GEJ's tenure? This is why the present agitations with violence will not work this time around cos its all politics of vengeance which is embedded in their name; the avengers.

Amberon11:
This is the rubbish you guys use in consoling yourselves. What was boko haram fighting for? weren't they fighting for the islamisation of Nigeria and killing Christians? Are the NDA killing Muslims? are they not fighting a just course? No one is supporting the blowing of pipelines but justice must be served. We cannot continue feeding people who will in turn kill our people in the north. We cannot continue feeding people whose only mission in life is to overpopulate the earth.

stop the lies, NDA is not fighting any just cause anywhere, this is the same thing the likes of tompolo, asari and co were saying then and are now billionaires with no meaningful development in the region. The bayelsa governor has given us the answer weeks back for the reason we have all this atrocities.

SuperS1Panther:
Sanity reigns when you do not have corrupt leaders at the helms of affairs.

MTN felt it was business as usual and they could easily buy their way through, the same way they have been doing in the past.

This is victory for sanity and anti-corruption.

of course, this is the reason why all the bombings are happening cos no free money to steal in Nigeria any longer.

You must work very hard now to earn your pay and also pay consequences if wuruwuru is your lifestyle

mesoprogress:
GEJ government was inclusive, which blinded people's eyes to the reality on ground. Buhari is a sectional. It's better late than never.

Lies, GEJ marginalized the yorubas in his administration, He pleaded with the yoruba obas that he will correct this if he is re-elected. You guys should stop this propaganda that Gej ran an inclusive govt, he favoured the ss and se fellows to the detriment of others,this is why the igbos are ready to die for GEJ as they were highly favoured to the detriment of others. This is the politics that is tearing us apart now as some fellows thought that the Christmas rice they were enjoying under GEJ must continue hence all these bombings with the issue of true federalism as a cover up to justify their criminal activities.

Not all of us are fools, we know all these is happening as a pay back to PMB hence the name the avengers. GEJ was a sectional leader who said the igbos were the backbone of his govt and called the sw rascals. have you forgotten the 'born throwaway children' appellation. Spread your lies elsewhere. GEJ was the most tribal bigot we had as President.

Built2last:
why exactly are you taking it personal. the intellectual debate on the subject is purely opinionated with varying perspectives...here you are exacting your usual aggression.

when you are ready to use your intellect, wake me. who is happy that those boys are causing all of pain.

thanks for the insult, I appreciate

mesoprogress:
I was recently banned on this forum for mocking federal government's military crackdown in niger delta with war ships, gun boats, jet fighters and foot soldiers.

I recognize that Nairaland is a privately owned website, have a right to ban anybody at anytime but setting a bad precedent is not good for both the website operators, Nigeria government and people.

Our criticism and mocking of government is geared to put them on their toes. Government officials, politicians, DSS, etc all come to nairaland to gather opinion from common Nigerians and for intelligence gathering as well. They hear our voices, mockings, insults daily from Facebook, Twitter, online forums (eg nairaland) and try to amend their ways. Trying to shut up dissenting voices only embolden us the more.

On issue of Niger Delta Avengers, IPOB, it's only Nigerian government that designates these groups as criminal groups . While fulani herdsmen designated as fourth most dangerous terrorist group globally, it is treated with kids gloves by ruling government. Niger Delta Avengers may not be employing the nicest method to achieve their aim but they are constrained on other options. I will explain this further.

People have opined that they could have made their requests known peacefully instead of blowing their lands away. MASSOB, IPOB, etc have over the years peacefully asked for secession. What did they get? Military crackdown, extra judicial killing, unlawful detention. It's obvious you cannot get anything peacefully in Nigeria. If they have listened to previous agitators, at least these new guys would show face and not resort to pipeline bombing.

Others were of opinion that they should have used our senators, reps, governors. This is not possible. Reason being that by constitution, Nigeria is indivisible and elected officials have sworn to unity of the country. It is a tresonable offense. They will immediately be arrested by DSS if they mention anything about division of the country. It is now left for ordinary people to use international laws to achieve self determination.

After military invasion, what did they achieve? Nothing! Pipelines are still going up in flames even after unilateral declaration of ceasefire by Nigerian government.

The only solution that will avert total disintegration of Nigeria is amendment of 1999 constitution. Communities and regions need to control their lands and resources and pay tax to the center. This will bring unprecedented development to all regions and end oil dependency once and for all. We could operate as mini nations and leverage on our population. If Ogoni wants a Kingdom of their own , let them have it!

I have more details and road map to a successful Nigeria. Where the government refuses to listen to the people, count me out on a united Nigeria. Mods you can ban again till 2020 or delete my account completely. I stand by my opinions. I will continue to criticize and mock government whenever they fail.

Cheers

why did all these not come up during GEJ's rule? These are all political rhetoric, how come we suddenly realized that the 1999 constitution need to be amended when PMB assumed power.

Built2last:
I have spoken to a few Niger Deltans with a view to pacifying few class mates I knew were mad those days.

they are resolved to continue.

the side of this crisis you are not looking at is that, youi need money to engage in any war and win. you need to buy arms either in cash or in exchange for crude oil.

these boys are grounding that. never forget it will take years to rebuild whatever they are destroying now.

Bokoharam war is totally different from this because there was money to fund the military, although Dasuki and co had a swell time.

the source of the money or crude is the Delta. Our chief enemy now is Iran. that nation doesn't forgive. If those boys ground the economy and get military hardware and support from Iran and other Shi'ite nations, It will be a long fight.


South Sudan (which had the oil) fought for their resource control for 17 years and UN had no option than carve them out for peace to reign.

and south sudan is very peaceful now abi? Sir, I repeat the NDA can never win this war, Nigeria is not sudan or Central african republic. This country is bigger than what we think. Problem of some of you is that you think all the money Nigeria has is from oil, Nigeria is capable and even the International community knows that this country can prosecute the operations in the niger delta region without going broke like other african nations, it is the advise from the international community that is holding the govt back, but if the NDA operations begin to assume the dimension of boko haram where they start holding and claiming territories like boko haram, guy you will be first to beg the FG to allow peace to reign. The NDA threat level has not hit the roof yet whether Iran is involved or not,

Akpabio, you can also send mercenaries to other parts of Nigeria from your region if what you are saying makes sense.

Its obvious leaders from the ss region lack the political will and diplomacy to deal with issues. They prefer to be cry babies and play the victim all the time, what a pity

ahaika23:
Are you having a hard time understanding? We are bombing pipelines and not ourselves my dear. WHen we are done, there will be no drop of oil to sell, at that point Buhari will have no choice than to agree to a system where the Niger Delta will not be cheated anymore. Shikinah!

Are you an NDA member?

The way PDP governors de fall wailers' hand these days is mind boggling from Dickson, Fayose, Mimiko, chai and to think that the same Dickson call his people lazy bunch, na wa o.

Its only a matter of time before we will see an implosion within the Niger delta region as they will start avenging against themselves.

Built2last:
You are not being sincere with your analysis.

the government ceasefire is not any tactics, they are totally clueless on how to engage them. We have not understood their modus operandi. its a terrain the military will have to study more to understand the wirings of the pipeline.

they withdrew because human casualties will be recorded if they persist and the NDA has not killed any civilian. If the military kills civillians in this cause, they will totally loose the support of the west and media.

currently the armed forces are clueless on how to tackle the issue.

the armed forces were also clueless in tackling boko haram initially but who is having the last laugh? truth is no one can never win any govt in a war no matter the amount of weapons and tactics they deploy. The NDA will be demystified in the long run as the govt is rather waiting since lots of folks are still emotional in their support for the NDA which will not last as the continue destruction will start irritating all and sundry very soon.

perryy:
They will succeed in jesus name. Insha Allahu, victory is guaranteed.

No bruv, you can never pick up arms against your govt and win no matter the amount of weapons, boko tried it and failed, the govt is only giving these guys time to finally present themselves as terrorists and they are not intelligent enough to avoid it.

Jarus:
Another Tinubu boy. You can accuse Tinubu of anything, but not poor talent sourcing.

Exactly no one beats tinubu on that one, not even obj

Its only a matter of time these guys will be declared as terrorists and then will start getting lawyers to claim their fundamental human rights. This is how Kanu got himself in. The cease fire approach by the govt is a trap these guys are not trying to avoid.

No matter the amount of weapons they possess they cannot overcome the govt in the long run, those supporting their evil actions and urging them on are their greatest enemies. we are watching.

isiegbe:
I know the emirs and the the northern elders where very much aware when the Boko boys where making the country ungovernable some months back. Their response was that the attack on boko is the attack north. None ever said the killing of innocent citizens is bad. Now you know we are one Nigeria and the attack is not good on the economy. Am not on side of violence. But he comes to equity must come with a clean hand. I rest my case.

The boko boys that you said the emirs and northern elders were supporting, where are they today? same fate awaits the NDA in the long run bruv, they may be winning today just like boko was doing those days but their reign will also come to an end like boko.

Abagworo:
My take on this issie is that Buhari came in to change the old ways but the old ways want his Government frustrated in order to deceive the people into believing nobody can rule Nigeria well. If indeed their reason for detonating bombs planted randomly on pipelines is because of the sins of past Governments why not allow Buhari apply his change agenda before destroying everything?

What I witnessed recently in a gathering of presumably responsible mid aged men in Port Harcourt sent chills down my spine. They all unanimously want Buhari to fail so as to justify Jonathan's failure and that of our past leaders. Nigeria especially Niger Delta is ripe for a war and it is left for these elders to make or marr the volatile peace we're enjoying at the moment.

This is actually the purpose of all the bombings, it is political and not about the issues of federalism or what have you, reason they called themselves the avengers, they actually avenging the loss and failure of their son GEJ. Anybody who is thinking they are actually serious about their demands on paper is just ignorant. This is a political war to pay PMB back and we know it but how far they will succeed is only a matter of time.

Bad belle people go soon full this thread o, their disease can never be cured, where dem de? oya make una de show one by one!