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ijawkid: bro goshen pauls words at 1 corinthians 13:8-13 gave no chance for partial cessation of the gift of tongues......it simply says it will cease.....also remember that not until the apostles laid hands on persons did they possess that wonderful gift of speaking in tongues........with the death of all the apostles and with the church firmly established that gift did fADE OFF.............

You're still pointing to the fact that you don't see anything other than the gift of tongues the Apostles received to spread the Gospel. Besides, when the Apostle said, "it WILL cease...". It's not a past tense but a future tense. If it had ceased, we can't tell but let agree it had ceased. I need to see that there's also a "PRAYING" tongues. You no dey read all the things I dey type since ni? There're many other scriptures that points to praying tongues.

ijawkid: meanwhile next time wey you dey pray in tongues abeg record am for tape and then send am to my phone make i heAR SO THAT i go interprete am... .........

I know say you be yeye boy tay tay. You also need baptism to pray in tongues also. I'm here to help.

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Amen to your prayers my brother. Yes, John MacArthur's church is over 10,000 members and they do NOT teach tithing for Christians. I own a John MacArthur Study Bible and I understand the truth about tithing. Listen to the words of John MacArthur himself below,

A Word of Caution to Fire Starters ... holds. One being my disagreement with women pastors, the other being my stance on tithing, which the church heavily endorses. I ...

http://www.gracechurch.org/search/?q=tithing

@ Tgirl4real and Frosbel,

No mind Goshen360 o, I was only trying to follow my Apostle via Romans 1:11

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Gbagaun! E don happen o

Tgirl4real: See easy way out from getting me a gift.
Lol. It's been a while o. Not a recent mail.

I have just one gift for you my sweerie right now - The gift of Holy Spirit that I may impact unto you Spiritual gifts especially the gift of praying in tongues. Are you ready to receive the gift right now

Okay, I'll check the email again and reply accordingly sweerie.

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I understand you my brother. I'm convinced from scriptures (Hebrews 7) that tithe is abolished and ended for Christians. Off course, I'm not gonna throw the water away with the baby but the issue of tithing for Christians is clearly cancelled in scripture if we must be sincere. Do you mind if I show you from scripture (Hebrews 7) where tithing was abolished?

Besides, John MacArthur that you posted his video also does NOT teach tithe/tithing for Christians and yet one of the largest churches in United States.

Tgirl4real: BTW, why calling me sweerrie when u refused to reply my mail?

Val is around d corner mind u.

Oh, I have to check the mail I didn't reply o. I'm sorry if I didn't reply. It's not intentional. Maybe I thought I already replied. Oh, Val around the corner but how I no dey celebrate Val because love is already my lifestyle, not for one special Val day.

The video below shows abuse of the PRAYING tongues in the worship places and the type of exactly what Apostle Paul was trying to correct in 1 Cor. 14. - Tongues without interpretation or when no one understands what you're saying. This is an example madness and abuse of the PRAYING tongues in churches.

Happy viewing. There're many videos on Youtube even for Nigerian churches but I think this will do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGVPZyPkyas?version=3&hl=en

ijawkid: The bolded is correct.......are tongue speakers of today actually using that gift to spread the gospel as was intended??...........the early apostles could simultaneously spread the goodnews to persons of different nations and tribes .....what have acclaimed tongue speakers today accomplished with the gift if at all they have it.??...............I can boldly say NOTHING

I'm trying to show you and Frosbel that there're two kinds of tongues - SIGN and PRAYING tongues. What the Apostles had was SIGN tongues. That's what was needed to spread the Gospel in Acts. What we have in the church or personal today is "PRAYING" tongues.

"For if I [size=20pt]pray[/size] in tongues, my spirit is praying, but I don’t understand what I am saying"

ijawkid: Frosbel gave a cool exegesis on those verses........if I am speaking in an unknown tongue unknown to men then I should do it in my room(where I would be with myself) or I must have an interpreter if it happens in the church so that I can upbuild the next fellow......

That is what I see many not do today........

Exactly what I've been saying or are you guys not reading me clearly? What people do in churches today is NON-SENSE when they themselves can't interpret or no one to interpret. It's an abuse of the "PRAYING" tongues. That's what this my thread aimed to correct: https://www.nairaland.com/1171845/carnality-corinthians-churches-abuse-speaking How come you missed it?

ijawkid: remember we once had discussed this issue and I used the scriptures to show that these gifts are no longer available today as it was in the 1st century... ....the reason why it was poured on the apostles and early christians has seen its fulfillment...........we don't need the gift of speaking in tongues today....the goodnews has gone past Jerusalem.......everyone has heard the message in his or her language.....the bible has been translated into all existing languages(tongues).................what more do we need??.....LOVE is all we need...the remaining identifying mark of true christianity which exactly is lacking in todays christianity..............

1 corinthians 13:8-13
8 Love never fails. But where there are
prophecies, they will cease; where there are
tongues, they will be stilled; where there is
knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in
part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when
completeness comes, what is in part
disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like
a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a
child. When I became a man, I put the ways of
childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a
reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see
face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall
know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and
love. But the greatest of these is love.

What I see many do today fully shows that gift indeed has ceased....we don't need it.....


Let the persons who don't abuse it replicate what the apostles did to prove they still got the real power of the holy spirit in them by spreading the kingdom goodnews with tongues..........

If you can understand there're two kinds of tongues, then you'll understand what has ceased. The tongues spoken in Acts by the Apostles WERE WELL KNOWN TONGUES TO OTHER PEOPLE AND UNDERSTOOD. I believe that is what has ceased without argument. There's a tongue called "PRAYING" tongues which NO ONE UNDERSTANDS AND NOT SPOKEN TO MEN, UNLIKE THE ONE OF ACTS BUT SPOKEN TO GOD BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD. It's a tongue for praying in the spirit.

frosbel: 23 So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and some who do not understand or some unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind?


1. Paul was not against speaking in other languages to glorify God
2. He was mainly concerned about those who could not understand these languages
3. This included both believers and unbelievers
4. Paul would rather we had interpreters who understood these languages so that the rest of the congregation would be edified and blessed by these utterances enabled by the Spirit of GOD.
5. To do otherwise will be creating confusion and God is not the author of confusion.

You're very correct here.

frosbel: 26. When you come together, everyone has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. All of these must be done for the strengthening of the church. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. 28 If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and God.

In v26. Paul emphasizes that it is better to have someone who can interpret a foreign language when the believers assemble for fellowship, if no one can understand this language , [size=20pt]they should keep quiet.[/size]

Exactly the point I'm making. What we have in churches is pure non-sense and abuse of the PRAYING tongues IF NO ONE CAN INTERPRET OR THE SPEAKER himself INTERPRETS. Hence, speaking in tongues or praying in tongues WHICH NO ONE UNDERSTANDS (vs 2, 14) MUST BE DONE PRIVATELY, NOT IN CHURCHES, according to 1 Cor. 14:28 or the speaker keep quiet. Those who speak (or pray) in tongues in churches without interpretation are out of scriptural context and abuses the PRAYING tongues.

frosbel: I really cannot see any support throughout scripture for the speaking in , of strange mysterious languages which 99.9% of the time , no one can understand.

I am sorry, we have to disagree with this one bro.

I am still studying as we speak.

There's scriptural verses for speaking or praying in tongues BUT NOT IN WORSHIP PLACES IF NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND OR INTERPRET. vs 2 and 14, I want it to sink into you. That's scripture for speaking or praying in tongues WHICH NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND - Again, not in churches when no one can understand or interpret. Shut up in churches when no one can understand or interpret but RATHER SPEAK OR PRAY PRIVATELY.

It's not whether we disagree or not, I love the way we're reasoning scriptures together. You need to understand there's a praying tongues which the Spirit gives as utterance and no one can understand even the person that speaks or prays by such tongues. vs 14.

Study more - I dey here with you. I will show you a video of abuse of tongues I'm talking about soon. Trying to get one from youtube soon.

frosbel: I have been studying, and so far disagree.

"....as the Spirit gave them utterance" is the key phrase.

Let us hear what Paul had to say about this later in the chapter.

22 Tongues, then, are [size=20pt]a sign,[/size] not for believers but for unbelievers;

Tongues are a sign for unbelievers Paul said. In fact , in the book of Acts 2 , when Jews of every nation under the heavens heard these supposedly unlearned men speak in their own dialect, praising and glorifying GOD , they were simply amazed.

This confirms the truth I'm saying and parallel to the book of Acts that I called "SIGN" tongues. How do you explain if you, Frosbel being say an Igbo man just start speaking CHINESE language, in order to communicate the Gospel? That is SIGN and wonders, if you wish.

frosbel: False prophets and teachers are multiplying at an alarming rate , but one thing is for sure, their damnation does not slumber.

I predict prophecy that very soon , God is going to raise fearless and holy men to rebuke these false prophets in Nigeria to their face.

By the Apostolic Grace upon my life, I'm one of those that will chase these men out of business in due season and at the time of life. But in the mean time, we will do it online, offline and in our personal day-to-day life.

christemmbassey: what about you bro? As for me? Am ready and i need ppl like you + Goshen, you may not be here, but we can do something, the war against stomach-inspired - gospel is on, forward christian soldier, contend for our precious faith. We must counter them, online/offline and victory is sure. Peace and love to all.

The seed of God is already incubated in the womb of the fearless men that will turn the table of the money changers in the churches. The Apostles are custodians of truth and preservation of faith. We're already at it. With time, men shall be delivered from the grip of falsehood! I'm with you my dear brother.

Tgirl4real: Lol

While would u speak in "a language of the spirit" during personal worship? Is it that God can't understand your human language during that time?

Yes, you can speak or pray in the spirit as the Spirit of God gives you utterance because of the following reasons:

New International Version (©1984)
In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express. - Romans 8:26

When you're led in the spirit to pray an intercession prayer and you do not know what to pray for, it is the Spirit that gives you utterance THAT WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS. You might be led to pray for someone and you don't know what is happening to such person. In such case, it is the Spirit that gives you utterance which WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS.

Then flip quickly to verse 14 of 1 Cor. 14, it says,

"For if I pray in tongues, my spirit is praying, but I don’t understand what I am saying"

Parallel this verse with the Romans 8:26. What do you notice therein?

Tgirl4real: I couldn't have agreed more. The only interpretation for the word "tongues" in d entire bible is language. How it can mean something else beats me.

My position is with Frosbel

Tgirl4real sweerie, You also need the gift of praying in tongues. If you take side with Frosbel, you and Frosbel still can't tell us what verse 2 and 14 of I Corinthians 14 means. You guys should not despise the gift of the Spirit because it's being bastardized in Nigeria churches today. I'll be glad to lead you in ministration to receive the gift of praying in tongues.....if you don't mind.

frosbel: Hmmm, I am not sure about No.2

I and my family always pray in English, we can understand it and the children are edified because they can understand it as well and learn from it.

If I started praying in unknown tongues the people I am praying with will not understand and will not be edified in any way.

One key thing though, this tongues we are talking about is not the made up gibberish most people speak today, it is the tongues spoken when the Holy Spirit gives utterance to those praying in the spirit , and it has to come the same way that it did on Pentecost.

I am very skeptical about the tongues of angels but like I said to Goshen, further research needs to be done to be on the safe side ,though speaking in a language one can understand is far better.

Many years ago an occultist went to a church in South Africa and heard them speaking in tongues, he was shocked because the tongues were not of GOD but from the realm of the occult.

Test the spirits all the time.

Will be back

This is exactly what I'm saying. Now, aside of English which is the general language you and your family pray with; I'm sure you still have your native language, maybe Igbo. Now, when someone like me visits your family and we start to pray or worship and you (Frosbel) start speaking or praying in Igbo language - I'm don't understand Igbo unless you interpret. Your Igbo speaking doesn't make any meaning to me but to you alone. The same analogy was used to draw conclusion by Apostle Paul. When you're speaking (or praying) in tongues in worship places and you can't interpret, that is NON-SENSE.

There's praying in spirit as the Spirit gives you utterances. You people call it gibberish and all sort of things. I do not argue that people these days aren't abusing things but doesn't mean there's no praying in the spirit when speaking to God. I will expand further on this thread maybe you, FROSBEL will receive the gift of praying in tongues via Online.

ijawkid: My bro I've got one question for you.......

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Why was the gift of speaking in tongues given to the early christians??......we know before pentecost 33 c.e that gift was not available to servants of God.............why was it pertinent that that gift be given to the 1st century christians??....if we can get to the root of the reason for speaking in tongues in the first place then we can further find out if that gift is still needed today or wether persons who claim to speak in tongues today actually are filled with the holy spirit..........

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Because all I see today is gibberish upon gibberish.....sorry to say that my bro............

The reason for speaking in (SIGN) tongues, given by the Holy Spirit to the early church was to spread the Gospel. That was a SIGN tongues. How can I speak "Ijaw" language to you assuming you've not heard the Gospel before if NOT for a sign (and wonders) by the Holy Spirit This is a language I would speak instantaneously in order to communicate the gospel. That is a SIGN tongues and you that I'm speaking to WILL UNDERSTAND IT CLEARLY BECAUSE IT WILL BE A KNOWN LANGUAGE.

2. The question you'll need to ask yourself is that, if that language is known and understood clearly; is it the same language when Paul said in verse 2 and 14 of 1 Corinthians 14 that the tongues spoken is NOT KNOWN NOR UNDERSTOOD BY MEN. If you can answer this simple question, maybe you will see or understand the difference.

3. Let's leave what non-sense is done in the churches today. That's simply an abuse of tongues not that PRAYING tongues is un-scriptural.

The best version is still KJV but sometimes confusing with its English. I love KJV and is still my first and best priority for use. However, the translation I've come to love recently is The Expanded Bible - The same translators and publishers of KJV are the same for the Expanded Bible. Expanded Bible retains the original truth of KJV while it expanded with modern English for clarity purpose. It defines meanings of word like the Amplified Version within the text. However, I like to use 5-10 different translations online for more clarity purpose. Kindly find the Expanded Bible here: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%2011:17-18&version=EXB

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I have always told those who say they "fall under the anointing or slain in the spirit" that they should take away the "catchers" at the back and let's see if they will still keep falling under same anointing. The ONLY people that falls in the scriptures are those possessed of DEMONS.

They can't show us where BELIEVERS OR CHRISTIANS in the early church were falling under the anointing or catchers were to catch people if they are to fall - A pure imitation and counterfeit of Spritual gifts. Besides, one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is self-CONTROL. Any spirit that knocks a Christian down (I'm not talking of demon possessed person o) is NOT the Spirit of God!

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Better bro. Iron sharpens iron. I'm here to reason the scriptures with you.

frosbel: Brother , this is the same thing as praying in the spirit with the utterance granted by the Holy Spirit, it does not mean praying in some strange unknown tongue.

If you're saying this. Then look at verse 14,

14 For if I pray in tongues, my spirit is praying, but I don’t understand what I am saying.

So me as a Yoruba man. When I come to worship places and I give a sermon or message in English. In between, how can I PRAY IN YORUBA and yet I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? Does that make sense? Since I understand Yoruba and not everyone in the worship place do understand my Yoruba language, why would Paul say I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT ME MYSELF IS SAYING and yet I'm a Yoruba man.

frosbel: I humbly disagree here.

In my opinion, and this is just my own opinion based on understanding of these passages , there is only one model for speaking in tongues and that is the model of Pentecost. It has not changed and is the same speaking in tongues promised by Jesus in Mark 16:17.

This is where you're missing it brother. If there's ONLY ONE model of tongues/languages which is promised by Christ, why would Paul say in verse 2 and 14 that NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND IT and yet what was spoken on Pentecost was CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD BY MEN and a KNOWN LANGUAGE? This is the main question you need to answer.

BTW, how did you miss this recent thread by Goshen360: https://www.nairaland.com/1171845/carnality-corinthians-churches-abuse-speaking

frosbel: We agree on almost all points.

The bone of contention is the nature of these tongues, are these tongues normal human languages or are they some sort of angelic mutterings.

My opinion which is subject to debate, is that the tongues that were promised to follow the believers after the baptism of the Holy Spirit were languages, really , using the same model of Pentecost, no different. Reference : Mark 16:17

For orderliness in a church setting and especially when outsiders were visiting, it was always better to have an interpreter for the specific tongue being spoken or, not to speak at all to avoid confusion.

Read my follow up comment after quoting the whole passage of 1 Corinthians 14. The highlight is exactly what Apostle Paul was trying to correct. Stop speaking in tongues in worship places when no one can interpret and keep quiet or speak to God in private if you must do so.

What I'm correcting you on the that you're saying there's not gift of praying tongues which is used in speaking or praying to God which no one understands. Except I mis-understand you. There's a gift of tongues used in praying to God which no one understand but ONLY to God and praying in the spirit by the one who prays.

frosbel: He is speaking a foreign language which no one in the congregation at that particular time and place can understand.

Therefore, for the sake of order, it is better he speaks with this foreign tongue when there is an interpreter, otherwise he will be praising God in a language which no one can understand except God.

Read also verses 10 - 13

Brother Frosbel, Like someone said recently, (not sure the person now) - "being able to understand Apostle Paul is one thing on it's own when the Pauline Epistles are being read".

Now, the verse 10 - 13 you talked about is just a 'analogy' being used to make a comparison. Look at it from here:

10 There are many different languages in the world, and every language has meaning. 11 But if I don’t understand a language, I will be a foreigner to someone who speaks it, and the one who speaks it will be a foreigner to me. 12 And the same is true for you. Since you are so eager to have the special abilities the Spirit gives, seek those that will strengthen the whole church. 13 So anyone who speaks in tongues should pray also for the ability to interpret what has been said.

You see with the phrase, "And the same is true for you", an analogy is drawn from what is said in verse 10 and 11 to tell them why speak in a language that someone else can't understand or that you can't interpret if you don't have the gift of interpretation.

The very immediate verse 14 says, "For if I pray in tongues, my spirit is praying, but I don’t understand what I am saying".

Wait a minute, how can I pray in tongues languages that I myself don't understand according to verse 14 and YET, MY SPIRIT IS PRAYING . The answer is in verse 2 where it says I do NOT SPEAK to nobody but unto GOD ONLY since I'm speaking by the power of the Holy Spirit that gives the gift.

According to verse 2, the ONLY way to TALK to God is IN PRAYERS which is understood in verse 14 and verses 27-28,

27 No more than two or three should speak in tongues. They must speak one at a time, and someone must interpret what they say. 28 But if no one is present who can interpret, they [size=20pt]must[/size] be silent in your church meeting and [size=15pt]speak in tongues to God privately.[/size]

You need to notice the use of "SPEAK" and "PRAY"....in tongues or languages in verses selected or in the whole context. My whole essence is this, there're two different kinds of tongues languages spoken or taught in scriptures and by Apostle Paul.

1. A well known and understandable tongues languages which we read in Acts - It's called the "SIGN" tongues languages. How can someone speak a language he or she never learnt instantaneously IF SUCH LANGUAGE IS A SIGN, to empower the Apostles to spread the gospel at that time. This kind is ONLY spoken to MEN and understood by MEN as in the case of Acts of Apostles

2. There's a "PRAYING" tongues languages which NO MAN UNDERSTANDS (including the one who speaks or pray in such languages) BUT GOD according to verse 2 and 14. This kind of SUPPOSED to be ONLY used when NOT in worship places except there's one with the gift of interpretation or the one who speaks can interpret BUT when the one who SPEAKS OR PRAYS to God should do so PRIVATELY, NOT in public worship place(s) according to verse 28.

Lemme stop here for now. What we have in our churches or worship places according to Ijawkid while church people prays or speaks in tongues languages mercilessly via their loud speakers is pure ABUSE OF "PRAYING" TONGUES LANGUAGES. It's unscriptural and MUST not be encouraged. Apostle Paul says, if there's not to interpret in worship places, the speakers MUST keep quiet and do that praying or speaking to God PRIVATELY. In other words, praying or speaking in tongues is IRRELEVANT in worship places when NO ONE UNDERSTAND but PROPHECY DOES because prophecy is speaking in languages understood by ALL, the WHOLE CHURCH and the WHOLE CHURCH is edified; unlike tongues that edifies ONLY THE SPEAKER.

Frosbel and Ijawkid,

What Apostle Paul taught wasn't NOT TO SPEAK IN TONGUES OR LANGUAGE HERE BUT ABUSE OF TONGUES and THE ADVANTAGES OF PROPHECY OVER TONGUES IN WORSHIP PLACES by the Corinthians Church. First, take a look from this translations,

New Living Translation (NLT)

Tongues and Prophecy

1 Let love be your highest goal! But you should also desire the special abilities the Spirit gives—especially the ability to prophesy.

2 For if you have the ability to speak in tongues, you will be talking only to God, since people won’t be able to understand you. You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious.

3 But one who prophesies strengthens others, encourages them, and comforts them.

4 A person who speaks in tongues is strengthened personally, but one who speaks a word of prophecy strengthens the entire church.

5 I wish you could all speak in tongues, but even more I wish you could all prophesy. For prophecy is greater than speaking in tongues, unless someone interprets what you are saying so that the whole church will be strengthened.

6 Dear brothers and sisters, if I should come to you speaking in an unknown language, how would that help you? But if I bring you a revelation or some special knowledge or prophecy or teaching, that will be helpful.

7 Even lifeless instruments like the flute or the harp must play the notes clearly, or no one will recognize the melody.

8 And if the bugler doesn’t sound a clear call, how will the soldiers know they are being called to battle?

9 It’s the same for you. If you speak to people in words they don’t understand, how will they know what you are saying? You might as well be talking into empty space.

10 There are many different languages in the world, and every language has meaning.

11 But if I don’t understand a language, I will be a foreigner to someone who speaks it, and the one who speaks it will be a foreigner to me.

12 And the same is true for you. Since you are so eager to have the special abilities the Spirit gives, seek those that will strengthen the whole church.

13 So anyone who speaks in tongues should pray also for the ability to interpret what has been said.

14 For if I pray in tongues, my spirit is praying, but I don’t understand what I am saying.

15 Well then, what shall I do? I will pray in the spirit, and I will also pray in words I understand. I will sing in the spirit, and I will also sing in words I understand.

16 For if you praise God only in the spirit, how can those who don’t understand you praise God along with you? How can they join you in giving thanks when they don’t understand what you are saying?

17 You will be giving thanks very well, but it won’t strengthen the people who hear you.

18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than any of you.

19 But in a church meeting I would rather speak five understandable words to help others than ten thousand words in an unknown language.

20 Dear brothers and sisters, don’t be childish in your understanding of these things. Be innocent as babies when it comes to evil, but be mature in understanding matters of this kind.

21 It is written in the Scriptures:

“I will speak to my own people through strange languages and through the lips of foreigners. But even then, they will not listen to me,” says the Lord.

22 So you see that speaking in tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers. Prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers.

23 Even so, if unbelievers or people who don’t understand these things come into your church meeting and hear everyone speaking in an unknown language, they will think you are crazy.

24 But if all of you are prophesying, and unbelievers or people who don’t understand these things come into your meeting, they will be convicted of sin and judged by what you say.

25 As they listen, their secret thoughts will be exposed, and they will fall to their knees and worship God, declaring, “God is truly here among you.”

A Call to Orderly Worship

26 Well, my brothers and sisters, let’s summarize. When you meet together, one will sing, another will teach, another will tell some special revelation God has given, one will speak in tongues, and another will interpret what is said. But everything that is done must strengthen all of you.

27 No more than two or three should speak in tongues. They must speak one at a time, and someone must interpret what they say.

28 But if no one is present who can interpret, they must be silent in your church meeting and speak in tongues to God privately.

29 Let two or three people prophesy, and let the others evaluate what is said.

30 But if someone is prophesying and another person receives a revelation from the Lord, the one who is speaking must stop.

31 In this way, all who prophesy will have a turn to speak, one after the other, so that everyone will learn and be encouraged.

32 Remember that people who prophesy are in control of their spirit and can take turns.

33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace, as in all the meetings of God’s holy people.

34 Women should be silent during the church meetings. It is not proper for them to speak. They should be submissive, just as the law says.

35 If they have any questions, they should ask their husbands at home, for it is improper for women to speak in church meetings.

36 Or do you think God’s word originated with you Corinthians? Are you the only ones to whom it was given?

37 If you claim to be a prophet or think you are spiritual, you should recognize that what I am saying is a command from the Lord himself.

38 But if you do not recognize this, you yourself will not be recognized.

39 So, my dear brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and don’t forbid speaking in tongues.

40 But be sure that everything is done properly and in order.

1 Corinthians 14



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[quote author=Bélla3] ok. Make i shurrup.[/quote]Good sister. Na so e suppose be o,

[quote author=Bélla3]'say the truth and the truth shall set you free'[/quote]Ah, another more 'exposing'. You know say you be my close sister naw. Abeg, no sell my honey buns to these 'boys' naw. Haba.....

[quote author=Bélla3]*embarassed*
So any body wey never reach 30 na boy?[/quote]No...especially when the 'person' in context is acting like one..... You suppose dey feel the gist naw. Why you dey fall my hand naw?

[quote author=Bélla3]Na style you dey use toast ishilove ne? Eh pastor?[/quote]Ah, so na own people dey open my 'business' for outside people shey? Chei, wetin I do for you naw? At least if I offend you, you for call me inside and discipline me rather than to come open my 'business' for outside. Chai, e no good o