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Christianity EtcRe: If You Tithe, You Are Obligated To Keep The Whole Law! by Goshen360(m): 11:05pm On Dec 09, 2013
trustman: Remember your exact words - All the teachings and sayings of Jesus is applicable to both the pharisees and his disciples who were constantly with him. He came to save the Jewish nation and by extension the whole world,so your case that he was referring to the pharisees alone has no moral standing.All scripture including MAT 23:23 IS WRITTEN FOR OUR LEARNING AND INSTRUCTION.

Why are you now implying that in this DISPENSATION instead of going to offer the gift Moses commanded we should give TESTIMONY. TESTIMONY AND GIFT are certainly different things, are they not?
SHOULD WE NOT FOLLOW JESUS WORDS TO THE LETTER?
Secondly, which is THIS DISPENSATION, and what characterizes THIS DISPENSATION?
Why are you implying a change for THIS DISPENSATION?
Forget it, we know and understand the game, no be today we don dey see that kind game - it's called change the goal post when it doesn't suit you. cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 10:49pm On Dec 09, 2013
^ That's one of the Colossian heresies Paul, the Apostles dealt with in his epistles to the Colossians - some people claiming higher and superior knowledge of God, as they are closer to God while others are not so that those who feel inferior can actually see those who claim higher knowledge as mouthpiece of God.

Breeze don blow and we don know the truth mehn. cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Where Does Your Tithe Go To by Goshen360(m): 10:43pm On Dec 09, 2013
christemmbassey: is God's tithe ppl's wages/salaries/profits n other sources of income u covet? BIDAM, GO N WORK! U av hands n even go school, don't b a waste n burden to hard working ppl of God. U re nt a levite frow Israel but lazy n coveteous naija scammer who peddle for financial gain. Go n work o! I dey tae u o, b4 it is too late, bc christians are being set free from this ur fraud called tithe. God bless as u repent.
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Christianity EtcRe: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by Goshen360(m): 10:38pm On Dec 09, 2013
Both sides, of the discussion (for and against tithe) - You are doing good job. I'm just sitting back and enjoying the show. When the time come, I will request specially to contribute.

Thanks y'all.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 10:31pm On Dec 09, 2013
rudedough: Now if "THE DESCENDANTS OF JACOB" meant the entire "ISRAELITES" and there are 12 tribes of Israel, of which only 1 tribe (THE LEVITES) is entitled to receive tithes;
Or better still, which tribe give tithe to which tribe if the "descendants of Jacob" means the "entire Israelites"? Abeg help me ask him o cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: A Theological Discuss On Tithing By Rhymeyjohn, Image123, Mark Miwerds & Candour by Goshen360(m): 11:52am On Dec 09, 2013
@ moderators,

Are comments allowed now or you let us know when it's open for comments from participants?
Christianity EtcRe: Where Does Your Tithe Go To by Goshen360(m): 7:47pm On Dec 08, 2013
Noneroone: If you belong to Christ then you are the descendant of Abraham and will recieve what God has promised"(Gal. 3:29)
What was it that was promised that we are to receive?

2. To receive what was promised, does it have to come by tithe or tithing?
Christianity EtcRe: Where Does Your Tithe Go To by Goshen360(m): 7:41pm On Dec 08, 2013
Bidam: Nicodemus was a pharisee, i hope you know that if you are like nicodemus then Mathew 23:23 automatically applies to you. .Did Jesus tells you to tithe? Yes or no. Jesus is not here physically to tell you goshen, you must be born again.So how did become born again? Is it by Faith? or did you enter your mother's womb? cheesy
I have always said you need English class as you study scripture and this has always been your problem. If I say I asked question "like" someone, does it make me that exact person?

You said we should tithe by Faith and I'm asking how and what it means ...plus bible reference of those who tithe by faith.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Does Your Tithe Go To by Goshen360(m): 7:17pm On Dec 08, 2013
Bidam: Did you enter your mother's womb the second time to be "born again" huh OR is it by Faith grin
I'm asking question like nichodemus, neither did Christ told me to tithe BY FAITH, you the one telling me so. Then like Christ explained to Nichodemus, you explain to me what it means to tithe BY FAITH.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 7:03pm On Dec 08, 2013
I knew this is gonna be historic. I see my brother garyanold present. This is another authority on tithe subject. Welcome bro.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 6:50pm On Dec 08, 2013
rudedough: Goshen360 shift a little let me sit down. grin
Shift ke? You know say our Lord sidon with Atheists, so sidon near me joor. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 6:37pm On Dec 08, 2013
Front seat taken.

After presentation from each side. I want to start throwing some dangerous passes, IN THE FORM OF QUESTIONS...to the pro tithe teachers. This historic event promises to be classic. I have invited friends to follow discussion who aren't registered members, who might be viewing as Guests.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Does Your Tithe Go To by Goshen360(m):
Gombs: Here we go again. grin
You know say I like to learn new stuffs, I don't know what it means to tithe BY FAITH, neither do I understand what it is or mean, so I asked. Do you have an answer please?
Christianity EtcRe: I Have Very Strong Reasons To Believe We Are Not In The Year 2013 AD by Goshen360(m): 5:44pm On Dec 08, 2013
Literally SHAKING MY HEAD...OmG!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 5:39pm On Dec 08, 2013
Mark Miwerds: thank you, Brother!
You're welcome my brother.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Does Your Tithe Go To by Goshen360(m): 5:34pm On Dec 08, 2013
Bidam: You also need to sit back too.The issue is about tithes. I know your fixation on the Law is about Christians tithing by faith nothing more.As for the Law it was only the levitical sacrifices(shadow) and the priesthood(type) that was done away with nothing more. Tithing stand gidigba. grin
What does it mean to TITHE BY FAITH
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 5:27pm On Dec 08, 2013
Mark Miwerds: Goshen, I am in Mississippi
You are 10:23 right now. Your login time will be 12 noon on the central standard time, 12noon with you will be 7pm Nigeria time on the GMT.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 4:57pm On Dec 08, 2013
Mark Miwerds: For DrummaBoy,

The Discussion is supposed to start at 7 tonight. 7 in what time zone? I am in Central US, so need to synchronize with your time.
Mark,

What state in the USA you live? I can tell you the time if I know the state you reside. I also reside in the States.
Christianity EtcRe: The First COVENANT Wholly OBSOLETE. by Goshen360(m): 3:52pm On Dec 08, 2013
You are a blessing to me and many at all times. Grace be multiplied to you!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 3:48pm On Dec 08, 2013
Looking forward to the 7pm thing. Something is about to happen.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 12:42am On Dec 08, 2013
DrummaBoy: You remain our first choice now. But I had to factor in your busy schedule and that is why I suggested Candour to Mark. No wahala, time still dey for you to hammer!
You're right as per my busy schedule but if I know I have issues at hand, I will attend. What we can do is to go on with Candour and Mark so I can be on the sideline, throwing some dangerous pass. I will really want to kill these tithe doctrine for once in my lifetime on this your thread because the Spirit had revealed more as we grow in fellowship with the Spirit. I will always be here but allow Candour and Mark do the job for now and me being a contributor or the third man behind Team Candour\Mark, so we make three. How about that sir?
Christianity EtcRe: Where Does Your Tithe Go To by Goshen360(m): 12:33am On Dec 08, 2013
Bidam: You are still wrong. National Israel was a prototype of what God intends to do globally so it was likened to a church at the time. Moses was a type of messiah. Jesus also spoke to Israel as a messiah.His death ushered in the full purposes of God. It's all about types and shadows.The reality is Christ. Christ is actually coming for a church not churches.Still go and study more. cheesy
If you know the reality is in Christ, why are you still hanging and\or chasing shadows and types? You need take a step back sometimes and re-read your comments and see if you really growing in faith. Just an advice bro.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m):
@ D'boy,

I can't understand why you people can't match me with Image123. Abi how una dey do this kind ojoro thing sef? I don dey sideline since dey warm up o. Anyway, make I continue dey warm up, by the time I enter field, na to dey do some dangerous pass wey go beat defenders... grin
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 5:15pm On Dec 07, 2013
Joagbaje: I would advise every spiritual minded person not to engage in this debate or whatever.
Why not? Because you know breeze go blow and we go see fowl yansh and many will be set free from monthly tithe bondage. Abeg chill make truth prevail joor...lolz.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Does Your Tithe Go To by Goshen360(m): 3:41pm On Dec 07, 2013
Weldone, @ OP.
Christianity EtcRe: Grace Is The New Wine Part 4 by Goshen360(m): 1:16pm On Dec 07, 2013
The Grace message is spreading across the globe. Glory be to God. Thank you !
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 1:01pm On Dec 07, 2013
^ The pro-tithers are suppose to answer your questions sir. Maybe you wait for them.
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 12:28pm On Dec 07, 2013
MAYOWAAK: Evander Holyfield paid $23 million to Creflo Dollar in tithe!!! But he's now on the threshold of abject nothingness!! So where is Dollar to bail Holyfield out of his miseryhuh Holyfield has been dupe by Dollar, but I guess duping a man is okay as long as it's a ''Holy Dupe!'' No matter how 'learned' a man is, how much respect I have for them - I lose my respect for such a person the moment I'm told they believe in the book of talking snakes!
Tithers are yet to wake up from their religious slumber. They have been indoctrinated that paying tithe is insurance to disaster and security for anything negative that might come along life. You see many tithe paying folks still in debt, I mean heavy debt, living below $2 per day, they also loose jobs, some don't have jobs, many struggle to pay children school fees in the universities they paid tithe to build, even they tell students to pay tithe to secure good memory from God after their parent already paid tithe - double tithing system, cheesy

There's wickedness in the land and God is raising a new breed without greed but full of Grace and boldness to clean up the system. Tithing is not a guarantee that the tithe will not loose his\her job, cannot get injured, or mosquito will not bite him\her or all will be well, even some tither are tenant, some landlords, some owe rent on monthly basis, some no cars, some with cars, even some ride bicycle and some on LEGedes benz etc where then is the promise of Malachi 3? I keep asking, hope I get an answer some day because the God I know that spoke in Malachi is not a liar!
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 12:04pm On Dec 07, 2013
God is not going to curse any Christian because of non-tithing. He's not going to withhold His blessings because of non-tithing. Why? He had cursed Christ on the tree and in place of curse, we now are extremely blessed in Christ and through Christ.

Malachi's devourer is nothing but ants, rodents, insect eating pest and storehouse is not the church but a food storing place, Christians are the church. God's perfect love cast out fear...of being cursed or under a curse and devourer. God cannot bless you through Christ and at the same time curse you, just like you can't be under a shower and still be dry at the same time.

Listen, I know God more than my name. God is not the thunder striking God presented when it comes to collecting people's money in the name of tithe that these preachers present on pulpit. He will not withhold good things from them that love him. Even when you were still sinner, He sent Christ to die, do you now think He will curse you and send you devourer for non-tithing that He even did not tell you to do under the new agreement?

Our God is an awesome God!
Christianity EtcRe: Inviting Tithers To A Theological Discuss with Miwerds and Candour On Tithing by Goshen360(m): 11:28am On Dec 07, 2013
frosbel: Any doctrine that uses fear to coerce its members into obedience is of DEMONS.

God requires obedience out of LOVE.

Telling people that they are under a curse for not giving you money when Jesus died on the cross to abolish the curse is the height of EVIL and BADNESS.

Taking money from those for whom that old testament tithe was meant is WICKEDNESS.
On top of that, they make it look as if God cannot bless a man who is diligent, prays and spend wise without him paying tithe. We are no more under a conditional covenant, everything we get under this new agreement is all because of what Christ did and God faithfulness.

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