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Moneywomen17:
u don’t get it gregboy. Everybody knows how u can’t comprehend even the most basic of things. U can not interpret what u read.

Bleep you i interpreted what i read perfectly you should stop misquoting me out of dilusion


On the Oduduwa issue of non inexistence i have been saying that since inception i dont even need to read it from an article before i kept saying it
I Posted a screenshot to adress a diff issue instead u took the article left our debate and took the particular info to adress oduduwa existence are you not dump like that you and TAO11

Moneywomen17:
u don’t get it gregboy. Everybody knows how u can’t comprehend even the most basic of things. U can not interpret what u read.

Lol...... Very funny tell me what i misread


You better bring it to the table so everyone here including me will review it,

TerraCotta:
It is not, and the poster you’re referring to is unfortunately one of our under-educated young people. The article he’s citing is specifically about an Ijesa titleholder (it’s by JDY Peel), who was traditionally responsible for maintaining trade relationships with the Benin royal court. The implication of this is actually the opposite of what he’s trying to argue but I doubt that is quite clear to him yet. JDY Peel’s longer book (“Ijeshas and Nigerians”) is an excellent case study with more information.

The word ‘Ogboni’ itself is quite multifaceted. Anecdotally, it is used to mean ‘cousin’ or ‘relative’ in the Idaasha parts of modern-day Benin Republic, who are also sometimes thought to be connected to Ilesha and the complex of ‘Sha’-related ethnonyms in the Yoruba and Borgu-speaking areas.

You're bigger than this, you should have outgrown anyform of tribalism by now


Even if you are to disagree come up with good valid point for disproval

TAO11:
gregyboy it's unfair if you call his mom mad woman.

He is her son. He can call his mom whatever he pleases.

But that is not an excuse for us Nairalanders to call his mom names.

He has his personal reason from sharing his maternal family issues with us fans on Nairaland.

Be guided!

This is what you're good at being mad and how to talk rubbish


Mumu lady ozur get sense Moneywomen17 knows how foolish you are too

TAO11:
Yes, it is worth pitying the poor boy and his family issues.

Mad woman..... Lol

TAO11:
I'm rolling on the floor laughing really hard.

This one had to cry for his brother.

Wat a pity

TAO11:
To think this is coming from a wide-lying-gutter-mouth.

I have vowed to keep exposing you.

You need revaluation valirex did a wonderful job i was just laughing


The only thing you're good at is abusing, i dont think you're married if you're you wouldn't be having so much time on nairaland

Sometimes i think you are mentally unstable



This is the comment you will be getting from me
How i will be reminding you of your miserable life


You will make a comment and you will be so aroused by your owm comment like a lizard who sing praises to himself

You are partially mad if not fully

TAO11:
(1) Yes, he said it just like all your own screenshots have been saying it.

(2) Oduduwa ruled Ife in circa1000AD.

(3) Nobody is ever called Akanbi in the Oduduwa household.

You hardly learn once you grip ignorance.

And the question you intended here is as dvmb as asking: "Why does history record Ewuare2 as having 5 wives when he in fact has 5 wives."

(3) No historian early or late say Oranmiyan is a Nupe.

You are just being yourself --- a smelly wide-mouthed fatuous liar.

Having said that, Ekaladerhan is the mythical personage who is not found in any history book from 1485 to 1930.

cc: Moneywomen17

Your mouth is smelly

You know history is full of myth



Oya. Bring a video showing. Benin speaking yoruba

valirex:
Leave nairaland alone no one is gonna join you to carry your borehole that your mother gave you

Lol, take it easy on her

Moneywomen17:
lol. U are a troll. “Mythical fiquare” source: gregboy.number 1 Benin dumbass on nairaland. Meanwhile same dumbass post source that affirms oduduwa.

Ok you say oduduwa existed


When did oduduwa reign

Why do history refer akanbi as the only son

Why did early historians trace oromiyan history to the nupe people

Moneywomen17:
if u didn’t use this article to debate oduduwa existence why did u post it when we are debating oduduwa existence. U get sense at all. And oduduwa is a god. A god on earth.

Lol... Yoruba man don knack pidgin everywere don burst be that

Oduduwa never existed, he was a mythical fiquare

lawani:
They do not have ogboni in Benin.

Who said

adee17:
In as much I understand the reason Edos may be jealous of their brother Yoruba. Although Edo is great but Yoruba is greater and elder is serving the younger as prophesied. But it is high time mods on this forum find something to do about this guy.@gregyboy is derailing the entire culture section with his wild claims. He is actually disturbing any reasonable discussion on any thread talking about Yoruba or he will create thread just to spite Yorubas and our ancestors. It is enough!

To be sincere we are family friends not brothers

Moneywomen17:
Yoruba owns ogboni. They merely brought it to u Benin. Nothing in what u posted from Benin net shows that for a fact that Benin owns ogbeni group.

This is not benin net wise man

It insort a Yoruba article you need one again

lawani:
to you, even the sultan of sokoto is of Benin heritage lol. I have told you Benin empire was a Yoruba empire where Yoruba was the only lingua franca. Edo was one of the vernacular spoken in the empire.

Yes untill you cite a source before 1914


Or probably johson works will be of good use



Lol......


It will surely end in tears

Moneywomen17:
ogbeni u are one dumb ass. Even what u cited as to prove oduduwa doesn’t exist was still talking about how oduduwa exist. Tell me do u know how to comprehend what u read. Everything u have provided acknowledge oduduwa the only bone of contention is about some king using his name to legitimize their rule. U said any monarch can tour and cook up stories. Was it the Yoruba that convinced the ga-adangbe that doesn’t even speak Yoruba that the came from ife. Ogbeni reason u dumbass. People are not as stupid as u.

Seriously ypu think am fellow yoruba you can fool with your reasoning our oba bought into oduduwa out of political gains even when he doesnt speak yoruba or practice any yoruba culture

So that point you gave there is invalid language is not a barrier of accepting any heritage

Moneywomen17:
ogbeni u are one dumb ass. Even what u cited as to prove oduduwa doesn’t exist was still talking about how oduduwa exist. Tell me do u know how to comprehend what u read. Everything u have provided acknowledge oduduwa the only bone of contention is about some king using his name to legitimize their rule. U said any monarch can tour and cook up stories. Was it the Yoruba that convinced the ga-adangbe that doesn’t even speak Yoruba that the came from ife. Ogbeni reason u dumbass. People are not as stupid as u.

My friend i dont draw my conclusion or my info from one source before i posted any of this articles i have been saying Oduduwa never existed and even the article at one point also prive oduduwa existence as a god


I never used this article to debate oduduwa existence my friend you're the one who have comprehesion issues

Moneywomen17:
my dumb gregboy. The owa obokun throne is a long one and it didn’t start in 1832. Nothing u posted below indicated benin did shit in ijesha. Are u this dumb for goodness sake.

And who said it started 1832, when a strong kingdom dethrone the previous and appoint thier own kings does that mean the mornachy never existed before the arrival of the new king..



Yes the monarchy is old no one disputed that the benin monarch succeeded the old monarchy

Moneywomen17:
my dumb gregboy. The owa obokun throne is a long one and it didn’t start in 1832. Nothing u posted below indicated benin did shit in ijesha. Are u this dumb for goodness sake.

Did you see the scrrenshot you should draw your conclusions



The screenshot shows how benins have been doing some dirty work for illesha people
Gbebaaaje called the help of benin warriors to attack ibokun and after the victory benin appointmented a king there to rule the people that's why you can see the owa ibokun dressing like a benin monarch

Lol please dont interpret them with myth

Moneywomen17:
ode what u posted is just beer parlor gossip about if the ooni was truly oduduwa son not that oduduwa doesn’t exist. Even what u cited still acknowledges oduduwa of ife. Really tired of going back and forth with ur thick skull now. Smh

Go and read the full article and read other different articles i dont draw my point from one source lol......

Moneywomen17:
ode u read that the Iowa obokun gave birth to the deji akure but for ur dumb mind it’s ondo monarch extend to ijesha. Shouldn’t that be the other way around.

Ozur we know you guys talk in myth and lies i was deliberately correcting is myth or probably
Benin first enacted the throne of ijesha then out of ijesha the deji of akure was born

adee17:
In as much I understand the reason Edos may be jealous of their brother Yoruba. Although Edo is great but Yoruba is greater and elder is serving the younger as prophesied. But it is high time mods on this forum find something to do about this guy.@gregyboy is derailing the entire culture section with his wild claims. He is actually disturbing any reasonable discussion on any thread talking about Yoruba or he will create thread just to spite Yorubas and our ancestors. It is enough!

Yoruba were never our brothers we have trashed that myth already.....

The yorubas call it for themselves they are encroaching on our history they should drawback
thier myth of an history will be safe

You yorubas should learn to be humble

Moneywomen17:
according to what u posted. It said Benin was the first kingdom to gain independence from oyo then other followed. Which means Benin was under oyo for sometime before it gain independence. Do u agree with this.

And that statement was also rebuked by the author

Most people will think ogboni and olokun worship originated from the yoruba people but they have thought wrongly the yorubas under the canopy of oduduwa wants to steal our identity
The screenshot below shows the narrative of of the benin chiefs descendants who leaved in igbaraOke oke presently at ondo state stating how olokun worship was foreign to the igbaraOke people

Samuk
Valirex
Ghostwon
AreaFada2
Sarah20A

ojun50:
Let him create the thread I will read and pass

Wicked

[quote author=Moneywomen17 post=89333574]cite ur source first before I respond to u. [/quote


JOURNAL ARTICLE
The Heritage of Oduduwa: Traditional History and Political Propaganda among the Yoruba
R. C. C. Law

lx3as:
You should see that everyone ignored you and your childish posting..

You guys dwell in myth am just trying to bring reality out of all the yoruba myth

lx3as:
That Ọwá Obòkun daughter gave birth to a Deji never made Akure to be Ìjèṣas.

All 'Omo Olofin' are Omo Owa, Omo Ẹkun whether in Ìjèsà, Ekiti or Igbomina. The one in Ìjèsà is Ọwá Obòkun.

Are you saying the ondo mornachy extended to ijesha

This is the only way a yoruba monarch will be dressing in Benin royal attire ansld still yet deniel his benin ancestory

Owa obokun of ijesha is of benin heritage

lawani:
ibadan was the successor of oyo and prior to the civil war, Ijesa,ekiti,akure,benin were paying tribute to Ibadan. Ibadan managed to subdue everywhere. The owa obokun is a son of oduduwas from Ife.

History will never forgive your lies but anyway your statement are mere claims unless proven first all you have to cite an article to backup your claims



After Benin helped ilesha outrun ijesha benin then installed thier king owa obokun as it king

Why would you lie at first young man