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The yorubas says the oba of benin worships the various yoruba gods in the palace to show is identity to yoruba heritage They are ignorant to the fact that the oba of benin is a god on is own and he cant worship a lesser gods and he cant also be possessed by any of this gods, as it is regarded as a taboo. be it ogun, avanuko, asagidi and the others as a matter of fact the only gods worship in the palace. is the benin god almighty osanubua and the spirit of his deceased ancestors During the 16c the Portuguese had recorded the various civil war that had took place in benin and as a result benin was reduced to a village One of the cause of the civil was the fact that the oba who had died wasnt having an heir and a distance relative of the oba was choosen to be oba, and he was later found posed of oromila a goddess of the sea of particular town in benin This made the chiefs warranted the oba to impeached because it is believed the oba himself is divine a greater god here on earth and shouldn't be possed by small gods and the oba stood his ground not to step down and the civil war happened The fact here is no trace of even a shared gods between the benin people and the yoruba people are found in the palace worships this shared gods are usually found outside the palace worshiped by a distinct clan in benin and not necessarily by the entire benin populace it is also seen that the oba of benin dont even pay any form of homage or give any annual festival right to this shared gods unlike the ooni of ife that usually have annual festival of this various gods shared between benin and yoruba If truly this shared gods had been introduced by oromiyan as the myth claims why no trace of its worship can be found in the palace of the oba benin, and even if it was disgarded from the palace for some reasons why is that no annual accordance was given to it by the palace , even when it's a known fact in the benin - ife myth it was an ancestoral gods introduced to benins by oromiyan A RECONSIDERATION OF BENIN-IFE MYTHOLOGY |
We are still on the benin-ife connection if truly it did happened and am here to find the truth..... If it requires giving out my small money We just want go seperate the truth from the myth thats all. like me, I believe the ife-benin stuff was just a political stunt, played in the then western region by the various western kings, some people on nairaland think otherwise and have even attacked me for insulting the oba of benin of playing such politics..... Looking at the royal culture of the benin and ife people they look completely different although they are some similarities shared between benin and yorubas and not necessarily ife persay So i want to give everyone a doubt i was wrong Am offering 10, 000 naira for any archeological evidence possible to draw the conclusion benin and ife existed...... Any achaeological evidence presented must not give room for any doubt and even if doubt is to be given it must be given reasonable convincing explanation We will be needing free minded judges reevaluating answers given |
Juliusmalema:Lol, oya answer all if it suite you |
Samuk I can't imagine everyone is backings out on 1000k dollars Seriously, I guess the question is too tough for them since only the benin history was documented it will be unfair to the undocumented folks too Be leaned with them by asking for the bones found in orun oba ado site, or any achaeological evidence between ife and benin |
Juliusmalema:I just asked for okowa |
samuk:Ok |
Jeez I want to disproved the fact that there was no Benin-ife connections that it was all made up for political gains........ What do i get |
The thing i have to say is ife and benin never came in contact |
MinorityOpinion:Lol..... Ok anything that suite you benins never fought anywar |
MinorityOpinion:Lol you have failed...... Next time read your history better gone are those days we argue based on few articles today the world has given us a library on our phone So we will redress our myth and bring truth fron them |
MinorityOpinion:Put your money........ For both claims made 5000naira |
MinorityOpinion:Ooh, ok Its unlikely because why Oduduwa was popular was not because he was a conqueror or a king But because yorubas believed he was thier originator but here you are saying otherwise They are so many history of Oduduwa if i am to go by yours i will be blind and talk on assumptions..... The most valid Oduduwa story that he was the progenitor of the yoruba race |
MinorityOpinion:Oyo correct my assumption with fact |
MinorityOpinion:Lets leave like that benins never fought wars........ I thought you were bold enough to bet for the truth |
MinorityOpinion:Was he the originator of Yoruba race Or was he born in ife or probably migrted to ife |
MinorityOpinion:My article or your article Lol, are you going to set your money benin didnt get horses from war booty..... |
MinorityOpinion:What year did oromiyan and oduduwa reign |
Moneywomen17:Can we see the links to all this claims of yours You know horses are not a rainforest animal Anyhow youre going to say it horses were alien to oyo The hausas had brought them around the 1800 |
Moneywomen17:The truth is oyo empire sprang up in 16 and ended 18 century the parakpo war of the yorubas never mentioned oyo using horses..... Horses were introduced to oyo by early 1800 by the hausas and fulani during thier migration to oyo the hausas were the riders and not the oyos |
MinorityOpinion:Lol, oromiyan never existed funny enough..... Oduduwa was a myth too So forget it |
MinorityOpinion:You dont bring your emotions while debating, If you do it will have the best of you dishing out dishonesty and tantrums against ur opponent Again if you agree i dont know a thing in africa history please teach me i will go and do my own research The article was not written by me or even a nigerian so why are you pouring the anger on me Like i have said history is not meant to fabricated Any little distortion will change a well documented history upside down Anyway benin never had calvary they fought with people that did collected the horses as war booty The oba got to ride on them but with time the horses all died...... Because the habitat is not suitable for them |
Juliusmalema:What is okowa in igbo |
MinorityOpinion:Ok i guss you knew when the war happened Around the 1800 Am going to be leaned since you quoted a 1921 article the fact remains that, the hausas slaves were the ones who had brought them to oyo...... And they were the ones who were the calvary men all this occured in the early 1800 Pls dont push your luck proposing ife used horses please don't rather end it as a myth.... If you do i will send you on a research you would probably not come out from
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[quote author=MinorityOpinion post=89147049][/quote]This author is simply doing an oral account writeup simply what he heard from local oyo account which can be false because people this days are twisting thier history to make it good looking and we cant leave that unchecked Every myth left unattended to would not only distort the history of that people but anybody the distorted history come in contact with Example, is the claim you made that if oyo happens to have calvary then ife must have had too and if that be so, then that sculpture is representing an ife person" on the otherhand an history told correctly go a longway revealing truth to other people history So i take it upon myself to find the truth Letme make your search easier for you Fulani invaded oyo in the early 1800 did they write about oyo calvary.... On a matter of fact the Fulani wrote thier history down and documented them so you can get that information from them..... Instead of coming here to make mockery of yourself because you want to defend yorubas....... We are in the modern world, we dont just take every written history and accept them we revaluated them before acceptance Apart from oral record or written record how do we believe oyo really had calvary When oyo fought the kparokpo war the British were already in nigeria and they didn't recird any calvary from oyo |
IDENNAA:Which onicha d one in anambra or delta state |
IDENNAA:Utomi is a typical edo name I have not seen Anioma claiming igbo neither have they claim edo they are anioma mixture of both..... Your ego may sink you soon if you always debunk the truth....... Yes he is fascinated because that was is ancestoral root, The fact is anioma is mixture of both edo and igbos Sames the eastern igbo are mixture of igbo and igala You can quote me without insult dont bring your emotions along while quoting me next time I wont be replying you any further i will just press the report button Let's be civil pls |
Juliusmalema:I know the monarch in this picture we attended the same secondary While in sec school he and is younger brother hid thier kingship identity...... His younger brother was my coursemate his name was emeke we tried calling him emeka he frowned at it we even called him igbo he. Also frowned at it too, we were confused at then we couldn't explain his reluctantcy towards igbo, but one thing i could remeber he was fascinated by edo history but we couldn't still understand the mystery untill this is elder brother was crowned after years after we left secondary sechool everything began occurring to me Again Show me any anioma who claim igbo..... Because they have igbo name does that change the fact they aint mixed Hausas have islamic names does that make them fulanis..... Think
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Juliusmalema:You also followed up using emotions Even if you have to attach emotions in your comments it should be directed to the pure truth I dont know what he said tho...... Benin and igbo culture meant in the anioma areas the anioma people have both benin and igbo bloodline..... But you igbos deny that fact that aniomas have any benin bloodline at all in them, but only accept the cultural influence because it is pronounce and not easily deniable And that should stop You igbos should stop being tribalistic because even the delta igbos wont claim full igbos neither will dey claim full edo |
MinorityOpinion:Ok now lets go log head I need a written document from 1800-1897 documenting the fact oyo used calvary or even if its not written atleast archeological findings.... Showing oyo used calvary This days we talk with fact and not stories If you cant provide it just forget the argument and accept oyo didnt use calvary |
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