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Culture › Re: Prove Benin - Ife Connection With Archeological Findings And Get 10k by gregyboy(op): 9:09am On May 05, 2020
The yorubas says the oba of benin worships the various yoruba gods in the palace to show is identity to yoruba heritage


They are ignorant to the fact that the oba of benin is a god on is own and he cant worship a lesser gods and he cant also be possessed by any of this gods, as it is regarded as a taboo. be it ogun, avanuko, asagidi and the others
as a matter of fact the only gods worship in the palace. is the benin god almighty osanubua and the spirit of his deceased ancestors

During the 16c the Portuguese had recorded the various civil war that had took place in benin and as a result benin was reduced to a village
One of the cause of the civil was the fact that the oba who had died wasnt having an heir and a distance relative of the oba was choosen to be oba, and he was later found posed of oromila a goddess of the sea of particular town in benin
This made the chiefs warranted the oba to impeached because it is believed the oba himself is divine a greater god here on earth and shouldn't be possed by small gods and the oba stood his ground not to step down and the civil war happened


The fact here is no trace of even a shared gods between the benin people and the yoruba people are found in the palace worships this shared gods are usually found outside the palace worshiped by a distinct clan in benin and not necessarily by the entire benin populace it is also seen that the oba of benin dont even pay any form of homage or give any annual festival right to this shared gods
unlike the ooni of ife that usually have annual festival of this various gods shared between benin and yoruba

If truly this shared gods had been introduced by oromiyan as the myth claims why no trace of its worship can be found in the palace of the oba benin, and even if it was disgarded from the palace for some reasons why is that no annual accordance was given to it by the palace , even when it's a known fact in the benin - ife myth it was an ancestoral gods introduced to benins by oromiyan



A RECONSIDERATION OF BENIN-IFE MYTHOLOGY
Culture › Prove Benin - Ife Connection With Archeological Findings And Get 10k by gregyboy(op):
We are still on the benin-ife connection if truly it did happened and am here to find the truth..... If it requires giving out my small money

We just want go seperate the truth from the myth thats all. like me, I believe the ife-benin stuff was just a political stunt, played in the then western region by the various western kings, some people on nairaland think otherwise and have even attacked me for insulting the oba of benin of playing such politics.....


Looking at the royal culture of the benin and ife people they look completely different although they are some similarities shared between benin and yorubas and not necessarily ife persay

So i want to give everyone a doubt i was wrong
Am offering 10, 000 naira for any archeological evidence possible to draw the conclusion benin and ife existed......

Any achaeological evidence presented must not give room for any doubt and even if doubt is to be given it must be given reasonable convincing explanation


We will be needing free minded judges reevaluating answers given
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 8:30pm On May 04, 2020
Juliusmalema:
Ask me about Ifeanyi at Once so that I will reply all through.



Also ask about the meaning of EKWUEME title attached to his name
Lol, oya answer all if it suite you
Culture › Re: Benin/ife History $1000 Challenge Question by gregyboy(m): 8:29pm On May 04, 2020
Samuk I can't imagine everyone is backings out on 1000k dollars
Seriously,

I guess the question is too tough for them since only the benin history was documented it will be unfair to the undocumented folks too



Be leaned with them by asking for the bones found in orun oba ado site, or any achaeological evidence between ife and benin
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 8:17pm On May 04, 2020
Juliusmalema:
LMAO

also ask me what Ifeanyi means in Igbo?...Lol


Desperate lots.
I just asked for okowa
Culture › Re: Benin/ife History $1000 Challenge Question by gregyboy(m): 12:25pm On May 04, 2020
samuk:
Sorry no price for that.
Ok
Culture › Re: Benin/ife History $1000 Challenge Question by gregyboy(m): 12:00pm On May 04, 2020
Jeez


I want to disproved the fact that there was no Benin-ife connections that it was all made up for political gains........


What do i get
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 11:57am On May 04, 2020
The thing i have to say is ife and benin never came in contact
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 11:52am On May 04, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
grin grin he has nothing to post
Lol..... Ok anything that suite you benins never fought anywar
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 11:51am On May 04, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
Stop intentionally mixing things up bro. Is it too hard to comprehend? You make slowpoke look sharp with this Shit you wrote.

Oramiyan was a decendant of oduduwa. Man you stoooopid
Lol you have failed......


Next time read your history better gone are those days we argue based on few articles today the world has given us a library on our phone
So we will redress our myth and bring truth fron them
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 11:45am On May 04, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
Silly antics. I can see through you. Post it here.
Put your money........



For both claims made

5000naira
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 11:23am On May 04, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
Nope he was not the originator of Yoruba race. He was an ife Prince.
Ooh, ok


Its unlikely because why Oduduwa was popular was not because he was a conqueror or a king
But because yorubas believed he was thier originator but here you are saying otherwise

They are so many history of Oduduwa if i am to go by yours i will be blind and talk on assumptions.....


The most valid Oduduwa story that he was the progenitor of the yoruba race
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 11:19am On May 04, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
Stop making stupid assumptions. Better keep quiet of shit you know nothing about.

Another evidence
Oyo correct my assumption with fact
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 11:18am On May 04, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
If you have it post it here grin don't beat around the bush. I've not come across any wars fought by the Benin sef
Lets leave like that benins never fought wars........


I thought you were bold enough to bet for the truth
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 11:16am On May 04, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
around 13 century
Was he the originator of Yoruba race


Or was he born in ife or probably migrted to ife
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 10:58am On May 04, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
I don't care if Benin ever used horses, It is matters not to me. Benin never had calvary but got horses trades not as booties

That is the reason they call it documentation. You can see as the article is screening out assumptions and furthering on with the facts.
My article or your article


Lol, are you going to set your money benin didnt get horses from war booty.....
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 10:56am On May 04, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
See painment grin
What year did oromiyan and oduduwa reign
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 10:46am On May 04, 2020
Moneywomen17:
u didn’t even need to reply him. Even archibald dalzel who was in Dahomey wrote how oyo Calvary rode into Dahomey and defeated them forcing them to pay tributaries. When Hugh clapperton visited oyo-ile he said he noticed shortage of horse despite oyo being known for their Calvary cuz the Calvary was stationed in Ilorin. The key word here is “shortage” which means there were still horses just not a lot.
Can we see the links to all this claims of yours


You know horses are not a rainforest animal
Anyhow youre going to say it horses were alien to oyo
The hausas had brought them around the 1800
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 10:40am On May 04, 2020
Moneywomen17:
u didn’t even need to reply him. Even archibald dalzel who was in Dahomey wrote how oyo Calvary rode into Dahomey and defeated them forcing them to pay tributaries. When Hugh clapperton visited oyo-ile he said he noticed shortage of horse despite oyo being known for their Calvary cuz the Calvary was stationed in Ilorin. The key word here is “shortage” which means there were still horses just not a lot.
The truth is oyo empire sprang up in 16 and ended 18 century the parakpo war of the yorubas never mentioned oyo using horses.....

Horses were introduced to oyo by early 1800 by the hausas and fulani during thier migration to oyo the hausas were the riders and not the oyos
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 10:35am On May 04, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
See the opening yansh by the same article u quote grin
Lol, oromiyan never existed funny enough.....


Oduduwa was a myth too

So forget it
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 10:33am On May 04, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
The Hausa slaves Brought horses to Oyo? angry

You understand nothing about Nigeria history. You know nothing man. Stop making stupid assumptions. It make you stupid.

I won't reply you again. You're too slow, boring and full of shit.
You dont bring your emotions while debating,
If you do it will have the best of you dishing out dishonesty and tantrums against ur opponent

Again if you agree i dont know a thing in africa history please teach me i will go and do my own research
The article was not written by me or even a nigerian so why are you pouring the anger on me


Like i have said history is not meant to fabricated
Any little distortion will change a well documented history upside down


Anyway benin never had calvary they fought with people that did collected the horses as war booty
The oba got to ride on them but with time the horses all died...... Because the habitat is not suitable for them
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 9:24am On May 04, 2020
Juliusmalema:
The young man is a small boy. If Okowa can declare his Igboness even his king of Owa. Who are the others..

Mixture indeed with Igbo names and cultures throughout. Sometimes people should look at how they sound with some argument on a serious note.
What is okowa in igbo
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 8:40am On May 04, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
First of all I provided a Cambridge printout with reference suggesting the use or horses by the Yoruba armies and you call it hearsay. The British met horses in 18 century in Yoruba land (I love reading past events so there is nothing you can use to trick me)

I know you were angry when I said Benins had never seen a horse before oramiyan came to them. Don't get it twisted. You were not around to say it weren't so and you have no facts or proof to counter it. So you result to wild chase. Very pathetic of you sir.

Fulani invaded oyo in the early 1800. Read about how all horses were stationed at ilorin when the attack happened. What weakened the oyo was palace coup, and limitating power of the army.

Again you said fulani write their own history, so that one is not hearsay but a documented article with references written in a year when you were not born is hearsay. I would not bother to answer you again. angry

This another evidence with reference. Don't bother me again.

The Slave Ship Manuelita and the Story of a Yoruba Community, 1833-1834


Search at the bolded and deny it.
Ok i guss you knew when the war happened
Around the 1800

Am going to be leaned since you quoted a 1921 article


the fact remains that, the hausas slaves were the ones who had brought them to oyo...... And they were the ones who were the calvary men all this occured in the early 1800

Pls dont push your luck proposing ife used horses please don't rather end it as a myth....


If you do i will send you on a research you would probably not come out from

Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 10:48pm On May 03, 2020
[quote author=MinorityOpinion post=89147049][/quote]This author is simply doing an oral account writeup simply what he heard from local oyo account which can be false because people this days are twisting thier history to make it good looking and we cant leave that unchecked

Every myth left unattended to would not only distort the history of that people but anybody the distorted history come in contact with
Example, is the claim you made that if oyo happens to have calvary then ife must have had too and if that be so, then that sculpture is representing an ife person"
on the otherhand an history told correctly go a longway revealing truth to other people history


So i take it upon myself to find the truth


Letme make your search easier for you

Fulani invaded oyo in the early 1800 did they write about oyo calvary....
On a matter of fact the Fulani wrote thier history down and documented them so you can get that information from them.....
Instead of coming here to make mockery of yourself because you want to defend yorubas.......


We are in the modern world, we dont just take every written history and accept them we revaluated them before acceptance


Apart from oral record or written record how do we believe oyo really had calvary
When oyo fought the kparokpo war the British were already in nigeria and they didn't recird any calvary from oyo
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 9:37pm On May 03, 2020
IDENNAA:
He said he is Igbo. He speaks Igbo , married Igbo wife had Igbo children and dine with us. I will describe your character accordingly; if you behave ffoolishly then you are ffoolish.

Show me traditions that point to Bini roots of Onicha people. I am waiting
Which onicha d one in anambra or delta state
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 7:50pm On May 03, 2020
IDENNAA:
Your brain is very dense , bikonu ! The same ignorant traditional ruler from Isele Ukwu who went to Oba of Bini to embarrass himself and thereby reducing the worth of his throne and his people was also at Obi of Onicha palace during Ofala festival. He believed the lie that his people migrated from Bini and were relatives to Onicha Mmili. However , same Onicha Mmili led by Agbogidi Nnanyelugo Achebe told BBC blatantly that Onicha were Igbos on reverse migration. However, the king w/o self respect is in his twenty while Ogbu Onye Mbosi Ndu na Agunaria is a well educated and traveled man with abundant riches, so who do we believe based on traditional realities.

Ralph Uwechue was the past president of Ohaneze Ndigbo , he is Anioma , Utomi is Anioma , my inlaws are Anioma and you claimed you never saw any Anioma person claim Igbo ? You are sad !

If he was fascinated with Edo culture let them practice Edo culture...stop practicing Igbo culture
Utomi is a typical edo name


I have not seen Anioma claiming igbo neither have they claim edo they are anioma mixture of both.....
Your ego may sink you soon if you always debunk the truth.......


Yes he is fascinated because that was is ancestoral root,


The fact is anioma is mixture of both edo and igbos


Sames the eastern igbo are mixture of igbo and igala


You can quote me without insult dont bring your emotions along while quoting me next time
I wont be replying you any further i will just press the report button
Let's be civil pls
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 5:46pm On May 03, 2020
Juliusmalema:
They knows who they are. Nobody is claiming Edo anything. You can only be Edo if you have such names.

Nduka an Edo man ...very funny
I know the monarch in this picture we attended the same secondary

While in sec school he and is younger brother hid thier kingship identity......
His younger brother was my coursemate his name was emeke we tried calling him emeka he frowned at it we even called him igbo he. Also frowned at it too, we were confused at then we couldn't explain his reluctantcy towards igbo, but one thing i could remeber he was fascinated by edo history but we couldn't still understand the mystery untill this is elder brother was crowned after years after we left secondary sechool everything began occurring to me

Again Show me any anioma who claim igbo.....


Because they have igbo name does that change the fact they aint mixed

Hausas have islamic names does that make them fulanis..... Think

Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 5:37pm On May 03, 2020
Juliusmalema:
They knows who they are. Nobody is claiming Edo anything. You can only be Edo if you have such names.

Nduka an Edo man ...very funny
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 5:33pm On May 03, 2020
Juliusmalema:
Abeg that guys argument is funny.His emotions are playing fast one on him not me.

He is not stable.

Wetin concern Igbos with Bini issue Abeg.

Una done see us for Edo state dragging una land?
You also followed up using emotions
Even if you have to attach emotions in your comments it should be directed to the pure truth


I dont know what he said tho......

Benin and igbo culture meant in the anioma areas the anioma people have both benin and igbo bloodline.....
But you igbos deny that fact that aniomas have any benin bloodline at all in them, but only accept the cultural influence because it is pronounce and not easily deniable
And that should stop


You igbos should stop being tribalistic because even the delta igbos wont claim full igbos neither will dey claim full edo
Culture › Re: History : The Kingdom Of Benin (BBC) by gregyboy(m): 5:14pm On May 03, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
This one is well documented. Oyo had horses. Which made them formidable in their conquest.

If oyo have horses, what would make ife not to have when they are almost the same yoruba.

Your comment is nothing but a silly assumption.
Ok now lets go log head
I need a written document from 1800-1897 documenting the fact oyo used calvary or even if its not written atleast archeological findings....
Showing oyo used calvary

This days we talk with fact and not stories


If you cant provide it just forget the argument and accept oyo didnt use calvary
Culture › Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 3:43pm On May 03, 2020
Juliusmalema:
Not only Benin empire but Benin cage.
Lol,

Dont allow your emotions have the best of you

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