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Moneywomen17:
Oba is undisputed Yoruba from Nigeria to Benin to Togo. The word ba in relation to leadership is ever present. Apart from ojo oba, ojude oba. Long term title like otunba has been present in Yoruba for centuries. Yoruba names with oba attaches to them.

Moneywomen17:
tell me the name of the 30 kings in Yoruba land that are of Benin heritage cuz apart from ogoga of ikere who claimed his ancestors are from Benin no king is descendants of Benin. Meanwhile in the first place ur king is descendant of oranmiyan a Yoruba so by extension the king of ikere is also yoruba.
Dumbass emir title is not even African but Arabs and its Amir and it’s beinv used as an Islamic title in ilorin. The ilorin people still call him oba cuz that’s the Yoruba word for king. Even the market is still called oja oba.
If there is no word called oba in Benin and it’s just an appellation what does name like Obaseki and co means. Why is ur king called oba ewuare.

illicit:
you are mixing history up.

Ilorin never had an Oba. it's simply an Oyo military Outpost Headed by the generalissimo Aare Afonja.

Alaafin was the supreme king.

the Fulanis took over the kingdom after Aares mutiny.

Emir is a funani titile.

Ilorin never had obas oonis of its own.

illicit:
thank u. you are bringing out the linguist in me gradually.

Oba is the only word in Yoruba that means he who presides.

Ooni is a title for a king, an Oba, it doesn't mean he who presides, it is a title for one who presides.
same as Kabiyesi which means, the unquestionable one.
Deji is another one, which is short for Owafadeji, the one whom Owa gave a crown etc.

Owa means the seeker or he who came.
I particularly I am Omo Owa by pedigree and am not even a prince.
Owa is the title for the Oba in Ilesha.

Omonoba nedo means the prince in Edo take it from a linguist or leave it.

Moneywomen17:
shut up and stop lying oba is yoruba word. The title otunba a very prominent title in all yoruba land means king right hand man. So tell me how yoruba copy Benin when it’s clear as day it’s the other way around. Every market in Yoruba land there is oja oba. Even the Europeans wrote about it. The truth is Benin adopted the word when oranmiyab from came to rule ur people. Cuz the word oba has no meaning regarding leadership in Benin language while it does in Yoruba.

illicit:
oh boy you don't get it.

what language do u speak.

Oba in Yoruba translates to "he who presides"


omo oba means the Scion of he who presides.

omonoba nedo.... means the prince in edo....

what does oba mean in your language. answer that.

am a linguist you know.


Obadiah or whatever you are quoting from Edom has nothing to do with this.
No linguistic correlation.

How do you even know the right pronunciation for Obadiah....

illicit:
you can ask yourself why the oba of Benin is referred to as omonoba.
Omo oba in yoruba means a prince

Oshi5403:
One Thing You Have To Understand Is That Benin Empire Was Great While The Oyo Empire Was Also Outstanding.
So Talking About Military Strength,both Had It To The Fullest,and The Oyo Empire Had An Advantage Over Benin,which Is The Oyo Empire Calvary.

Mind You,i Am Not In Supportive Of Any Kingdom.I Am Neutral In This Trend.
Am From Enugu State.But Am Just Trying To Get To The Root Of The Issue.

Oshi5403:
You Are Right There
But I Still Dont Believe The Benin Empire Is Mightier Than The Oyo Empire In Terms Of Military Strength.Both Kingdoms Waged War Against Each Other Sometimes Around 1400 And 1500,but The Result Was Draw.It Was A Total No Victor,no Vanquish.

lawani:
I am posting offhand from research I have done much earlier. You don't need more than common sense to understand. Maybe you think edo was Benin lingua franca lol.

lawani:
your language was the vernacular spoken in the Benin countryside. The Benin palace was a city on its own and they spoke Yoruba. The British sacked the Benin city not empire, the empire had declined much earlier.

TAO11:
I'm from all parts of Yoruba as my parents have parents, and their parents also with parents, and so on adinfinitum all iver Yorubaland.

Is their anyway an answer to that question will help you explain why ordinary Ibadan attacked, raided, and decimated your Benin Kingdom??

davidnazee:
the article says Oyo's claim of authority over Benin is absurd.. since u don;t understand what the statement means I will explain; It means nobody or scholars believes Oyo was ever powerful than Benin kingdom.

TAO11:
Hurray!! ... gregyboy finally cites his trusted "scholar" and "authority".




cc: illicit

TAO11:
Nah c'mon. That's a cheap excuse!

But I'm not sure anyone trust what you said about me (even though I may read whatever thread as I please)

I am sure, however, we can take your own self confession.

Oya talk true!

TAO11:
An interesting question:

What were you doing on the so-called transgender thread??

You just admitted it, so make no cheap excuse.

illicit:
Yes. Am here
No carbon dating can prove what he is saying.
Archaeological remains in Ife are older than that of Benin.
As a linguist I know that the yorubas used the word oba and Ogboni first before the benins too....

He wants to rewrite history ni.

TAO11:
(a) Did you catch your deep wide borehole mother in 3some with your best friends again?? 

(b) Did you videotape it as usual?? 

Thank you!

valirex:
irreparable damaged Afonja must really be a transgender

TAO12

AreaFada2:
Yes, action is what they called anger. No time to bark, brag, raise dust and then be doing suwegbe or pick race when action time comes.

I remember one day one Asaba guy (a fellow Bendelite as we were then) saw okpor JuJu belonging to a Yoruba boy inside his trainers in the morning.. It was after a house party and everyone slept off later.

Whenbthe Asaba guy voiced his displeasure over how the okpor got into his shoe. The Yoruba boys there surrounded the Asaba guy to hush him and intimidate him. Oh boy, we Bendel guys got them scampering for safety. 4 of us against 10 or eleven of them.

Chai, I laugh tire that day. I used to consider those guys "brothers" until I saw their tribalism at work. Carrying tribalism all the way to diaspora.

They were later saying these Anini people nor dey joke o.

TAO11:
Is this how you will explain why Ibadan crushed your Benin Kingdom.

valirex:
irreparable damaged Afonja is still unmarried

TAO11:
Is that why ordinary baby Ibadan decimated your Benin Kingdom??

TAO11:
Did you just call your own grandmother a borehole??

Anyways, I'm just here to remid you that you are now on Nairaland.

You just mistakenly pasted your last copied conversation with your mom here.

Is it a Benin thing to bring your mothers' (and grandmothers') Italian businesses to Nairaland??

Just asking!

AreaFada2:
Of course he's a cross dresser posing as a female. I used to think she's an intersex she-male. Even intersex learn good manners.

But by her replies, he is a very frustrated soul. You know those people who feel relevant when they can cause offence.

Feeling offended by their rants gives them satisfaction. Just ignore her.

What has become obvious is that sophisticated people do not have to make a make a song out of it. Manners show it.

You know in Edo culture bragging is not the norm. Saying I will beat, no try me o or such shakara.

Instead before you know it your head is rolling on the ground or if you are lucky slaps will have landed you on the floor.

It's about action. But these people shout, swear and make plenty of noise but very fearful and no action.

We keep complaining about their uncouth manners because it's strange to Edo people. But normal to them.

TAO11:
These are really important questions! Fans can't wait:

(a) Did you catch your borehole mother in 3some with your best friends again?? 

(b) Did you videotape it as usual?? 

Thank you!

TAO11:
Is this how your mother raised you??

To ask for picture of kpekus (or what did you call it) on Nairaland.

You have indeed brought shame to the woman who raised you!

TAO11:
Did you just say Bleep you to him for saying what everyone already knows about you ---- that you're a ret@rded schizophrenic?? Wow

Wait! What have you been thinking?? That people take you seriously?? C'mon! Even ghostwon (an Edo like you) knows you have nothing upstairs.

Cc: Moneywomen17

lawani:
by the mid 19th century Benin had declined they were not receiving tribute from anywhere again. Ibadan was the new kid on the block and they extracted tribute from Benin, Akure, Ijesa, ilorin and etc.

valirex:
Afonja show us proof you aren't damaged and stop preaching

lawani:
when the British arrived in the 19th century, Benin and everyone else were tributary to Ibadan before the civil war.

lawani:
even correspondence between Benin and Britain was in Yoruba.