Stevecovey: my point exactly. it belongs to several people. And ewedu is oyo food. Every town has their local delicacy. In my village our major local meal is ekuru and eko (what Southsoutherners call agidi), not ewedu, even though all Yorubas eat it. And when u go to ijeshaland u'll see the pounding of yam from morning to evening everywhere. Same way u see amala everywhere in ibadan and oyo town.
You shouldn't talk factually about things u know nothing about.
Funny fellow trying everything possible to debunk me
To show yam is not even yoruba the yorubas call pounded iyan' which is called yam in benin
In benin yam is called iyan" . Pounded yam is called ema"
The benins took pounded yam and eguisi to yorubas simple
Ngozi123: The guy is saying that his favourite meal is pounded yam and egusi soup, which is an igbo dish and you're saying this.
Just be proud of your people without mentioning Igbos, ok?
You must be high pounded and eguisi is igbo dish you need rehab
You dont even know the hiatory behind the dish and you mention your mouth and say it igbo
That is a pure idol food in benin pounded yam and eguisi cooked with native fowl with no oil and naggi and offered to the gods before the edo commoners stadt eating theirs
If I have the funds and the bitch is very intelligent and she's worth it, nwanne I will CONTINUE to pay for her school fees up to her Master's and even beyond...
2. Don't Commit a crime for her
Of course. She can commit the crime for herself and by herself if she so wishes. I don't give a damn.
3. Don't Compromise your needs for her
I will if it is necessary. Of course, she will do the same for me too...
4. Don't Forget your dreams
I might bring her into my dream/s if she's worth it...
5. Don't Disrespect your family
Of course. Family first...
No one can follow your advice you speak with double mouth
In your exception dont you think they maybe had i know
Atigba: Some benin chiefs share ancestral root with Ife and they are not up to 2% in Edo State.
They migrated to Igodomigodo in 1170AD. That doesn't mean people in Igodomigodo are yoruba.
Igodomigodo has been existing for thousands of years with IDU children before these so called Oduduwa came from Sudan or whatever they migrated from to Ille Ife.
The original occupants in Ife are Obatala which Olugbo of Ugbo is a descendant of.
OgboAto: History shows only the king & few chiefs are of Yoruba origins. Only a part of the political & art history of Edo ties with that of Yoruba. There's no need to appropriate.
OgboAto: Only the Bini monarchy & certain Bini chiefs have Yoruba origin. Before the Yoruba encounter, Edo folks existed & after the encounter, the Edo folks continued to exist. Edo is Edo, they're not Yoruba.
Volchitsa: You're living in France? Get out. If you hate white people, why are you living in a white European country? You have no right to be there.
The French did not colonise South Africa, I believe that was the Dutch. We don't think Nigerians and Ghanaians are all the same, why do you think all Europeans are the same?
The truth is, African immigration into Europe has destroyed European communities, with high crime rates and high unemployment. Most European people do not want African or Muslim immigration. It has been forced upon us by corrupt governments. African people have turned entire European districts into areas where women cannot walk alone for fear of raped by Africans or Muslims. We don't want to mix with you! Europe will be in civil war in the next few years, because of Muslims, many of whom are from Africa. Africans who come to Europe and practice hatred against the native European people are NOT WELCOME. If only you weren't hiding behind the anonymity of the internet, I'd love to send someone over to evict you from the country for breaking its laws and violating its people like an absolute savage.
Blaming white people for Africa's problems is pathetic. Take responsibility for your own actions. How dare you invade a foreign country and spread hatred to its native inhabitants. This is a barbaric, medieval attitude that Europeans have given up in the name of modern enlightenment. Why can't you?
The vast majority of Nigerian people are awesome, but please, we don't want massive amounts of Nigerians in Europe. Everybody is welcome to visit, but not to rape our women, leech off our welfare, sell drugs, commit violent crimes and be extremely racist towards the people who built the civilisation you are now taking advantage of. Perhaps you'd do better to stay in your home country and try to improve things there?
If you have legitimate complaints about white owned business operating in your country, that's fine. But that does not give you the right to move to France and assault its people. People like you will be the first targets when war strikes, and believe me, you'll be a lot safer in Africa.
MandingueMandik: Oh i see, lack of arguments i guess ? (: You are supporting your dear white Master, however explain me this point: Why our official languages come from Europe? (:
1.In order to help West Africa, or 2.In order to have a better monitoring ((((: ?
Moreover, could you explain me the following point:
Why our money is built and created by Europeans ?( For Instance Franc CFA, Sénégal, money which come from France)
1. In order to help the poors africans? 2. In order to help fish? 3. In order to control the influence of our economy? ((((((:
Explain me please, because according to you im blind and confused, oh dear great wisman. (((((:
lawani: I am surprised you don't know the Yoruba we speak is over 50% kemitic Egyptian by vocabulary. What I call kemitic Egyptian is what olu317 calls ancient Hebrew.
Trace your language to edo state.... Not far away egypt
TAO11: Are you saying that S. B. Omoregie; Edun Akenzua; D. U. Edebiri; and Air Iyare are Yorubas??
I am confused because the only made up story around Oduduwa was by the above-named persons in the early 1970s when they came up with their "Ekaladerhan-Oduduwa Myth".
Anyways, you have to save-face sha, so I kind of understand. But I have an interesting question:
Why does Benin kingdom celebrate "Oduduwa" festival since ancient times till date??
According to the "Oduduwa-Ekaladerhan Myth", isn't "Oduduwa" supposed to be a corrupted Yoruba word for the supposed original Edo word "Idoduwa" (according to Air Iyare, 1973, p. 13.); or "Izoduwa" (according to Oba Erediauwa during his 1978-9 coronation); or even "Imadoduwa" (according to D. N. Oronsaye, 1995, p. 49.); etc.??
So, why did this ancient Benin festival retain a foreign "corruption" --- "Oduduwa" --- as its name till date??
The name of the festival must (as a matter of urgency) be "corrected" back to "Idoduwa festival", or "Izoduwa festival", or "Imadoduwa festival", or better still "Ekaladerhan festival".
Oba Ewuare II must hear this!
We Benin's dont celebrate oduduwas festival Ekaladeran was the lost benin Prince name Not untill after the beni choefs meant him a ruler at ife that the benin called him Izoduwa( he walked to success)
The oba in the statment made probability that if oromiyan had ruled he would probably be the first oba ,not that he was the first,because he nevered ruled
TAO11: Firstly: You asked if the Yorubas had the word "Oba" before the arrival of the bRiTiSh.
Although your rhetorical question here portrays you as dumb, ignorant, idiotic and deluded (as I have shut you up with detailed answers to this question countless times), I will nevertheless provide an answer for the sake of others.
Not only have the Yorubas been using the word "Oba" as the generic word (a.k.a. common noun) for their monarchs before the arrival of any European, they have actually been doing so since time immemorial --- even in the pre-Oduduwa era. The reason is simple: "Oba" has always been a Yoruba word.
A case in point: Prior to Oduduwa's prominence in Ife, the nation operated a decentralized structure of about thirteen states --- one of which was called Ideta-Nla, aka Ideta-Ile, and also known simply as Ideta ----- each state having its own king.
A prominent "King of Ideta-Nla" --- articulated in Yoruba language as "Oba Ideta-Nla" or, in its more famous contracted form, "Obatala" --- who later became deified (and passed down by history to posterity) is just one of many instances of the ancient existence of the word "Oba" for "King" in the Yoruba lexicon.
In other words, not only has the word "Oba" been part of the Yoruba lexicon before the coming of any European to the Nigeria region, it has always been a Yoruba word for "king" even in the pre-Oduduwa era.
One can at least be certain that it wasn't the bRiTiSh who introduced the deity Obatala to the Yorubas. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Secondly: You requested any early 20th century historical work which addresses any Yoruba king as "Oba".
Although I am not sure how this will help any point you want to make, I will nevertheless not only post an early 20th century historical work, I will in fact post a prominent world-class historical work from the century before the 20th --- that is from the 19th century, viz. the 1800s.
Now, come with me to The Great Oyo Empire during the reign of a king, whose name is Aole (also spelt as Awole), who ruled Oyo in the 18th century --- from c. 1789 to c. 1796.
In his groundbreaking historical work on Yoruba history, completed in the year 1897 --- i.e. in the 19th century; the Reverend Samuel Johnson described the moral and the religious lax and decadence, as well as the general decline that the Oyo nation experienced from the time of Aole going forward.
Reverend Samuel Johnson particularly noted how "oaths were no more taken in the name of the gods, who were now considered too lenient and indifferent; but rather in the name of the King (Aole himself) who was (now) more dreaded" than any Oyo king before him.
He specifically mentioned in this 1897 work that "the new form of oath" for the late 1700s Oyo people became: "Idà Oba ni yio jemi" ("may the King's sword destroy me" ).
Again, the word "Oba" (as has just been shown from this 1897 historical work about ancient Oyo and Yoruba generally) has always been the Yoruba equivalent of the English word "King".
--- See the attachment below (culled from page 188 of Rev. Samuel Johnson's "The History of the Yorubas" ) for some more context. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thirdly: Regarding your statement that "Oranmiyan didn't rule at all in Benin".
Well, let's see what you have to say in reply to Omo N'Oba N'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo, Oba Ewuare II, regarding his statement --- in the video below --- that "ORANMIYAN from IFE became the FIRST OBA of BENIN".
--- Paraphrased from time-stamp 13:33 to 13:41 of the video below.
Lol, prior to the coming of Oranmiyan from IFE, no Benin monarch was ever addressed by the royal title "Oba". Rather, they were addressed by the royal title "Ogiso".
A smart person would have already seen the implication of this fact alone without having to be spoon fed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To sum it all up:
1. It has been demonstrated that the word "Oba" has always been part of the Yoruba lexicon from time immemorial --- even from the pre-Oduduwa era.
2. It is clear from Oba Ewuare II's own admission that the description "Oba" wasn't used for any Benin monarch prior to Oranmiyan's soujourn from Ife to Benin.
3. It therefore becomes clear who influenced who (of Yoruba and Edo) on the use of "Oba" to describe monarchs.
4. Lastly, I have demonstrated to you, more than once before, that the etymology of the word "Oba" shows it to mean "king" only in Yoruba language and never in any Edoid language.
5. Can you now accept my oft-repeated challenge to you to demonstrate how the etymology of the word "Oba" could show it to mean "king" in any Edoid language?
We all knew the yoruba spoken today is connumeration of various yoruba dialect like half of yoruba state was once under the Benin empire and they took upon edo words into thief vocabulary, at the emerge of the general yoruba dialect they loaned words from areas once under the Benin empire such as words like oba, and so on
The case would have been different if oromiyan had ruled Benin but no he didn't neither did he stay behind to crown is son oba or himself one So saying oromiyan brought the title oba is absolutely wrong
Moreover, given your "Ekaladerhan-Oduduwa Myth"; why then did the kings of Benin kingdom have to PAY HOMAGE to Ile-Ife in ancient times as clearly mentioned in the expert testimony of the British Museum historical documentary shown below?
The "Ekaladerhan-Oduduwa Myth" is clearly what it is --- A Myth, made up for the first time in Benin kingdom in the 1970s, and propagated vigorously today by Bini Nairalanders.
The unreasonable folklore told of oduduwa by the yoruba people at early 70s was a conspiracy to feel supiority over their deficient history
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