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lx3as:
This is simply confusion!

Ekiti never fought Egba, they don't even share boundary. Ekiti never really fought Oyo but Ibadan. However, there are wars between Ekiti kingdoms and Bini. Oyo only intervened in Otun Ekiti kingdom and Bini war.

You people should also know that Oyo Empire started earlier and spread wider, as far as Ashanti kingdom of present day Ghana/Ivory's coast. Oyo made use of ports in Badagry, Ajase, Cotonou and Togo rather than the Ijebu/Awori dominated ones in Lagos. Oyo empire was already diminishing when Bini Kingdom was growing. Oyo Empire knew about Ife prince kingdom of Bini and the two never really waged war against each other.

The Ashanti kingdom and togo u speak about was it by conquest if its not i would say benin influence spread beyond sothern part of nigeria including the oyo empire inclusive and beyond africa to europe in portugal

lx3as:
Start with the consideration of the two groups' population. Then consider these:

One thing is that Bini never loved Oranmiyan; if he was a son of ozodua as they claimed, they would have loved him and he wouldn't have called the land 'ile ibinu'. Also his generations will not continue to pay ceremonial land royalty to one particular Ogiso house till today.

The greatest Bini historian never mentioned this ekhaladeren/ozodua tale. There are lots of revisionists of Benin story today. Not too long ago, the palace of Bini brought this ozpdua's story so as to remain relevant in the midst of Igodomigodo people. Yoruba language of the palace was also downplayed.

Ooni of Ife is the senior among the three. Ile Ife remains the source of every Yoruba and the people' spirituality.
Alaafin never ruled over Ekiti, Ijebu, Ondo, Ilaje, Ikale, Owo, Akoko, Ijesa, etc. so these people don't revere him in anyway but respect his exploits. However they all recognise and revere the Ooni.

Though some historians claim, Oba of Bini was the first through Eweko, a woman of Igodomigodo origin; Alaafin was second child through a Nupe (Tapa) woman and Arole Oodua Ooni through a Yoruba woman. In those days, Yorubas kings, sons of Oodua valued the purity of the royal blood, Oodua, by marrying themselves. All these gives credit to Ooni leadership and spiritual dominance.
There was also story of Ooni being direct child of Oodua other than Oranmiyan who later returned to Ife after founding Oyo, became king or not, died and buried in Ife with his staff present till today.

Alaafin later became political leader through the spread of Oyo empire and Oranmiyan generation also created great Bini Kingdom.

In all these, respect to Oranmiyan, son of Okanbi, grandson of and Arole Oodua.

Listen to yourself who would forfeit a whole language because he wants to rewrite an history if they even attempted to do such they could have been much similarities between the new adopted language and that of the one forgone just in a space of how many years a language was forgone in an entire city you should be ashmed you never took philosophy to help you reason before you talk.... And again because the oba launched a book years ago meaning what he wrote in the book was never true put yourself as a benin man and tell me which history would please your ears

Creativebae:
No.its an edo name..

No it's a yoruba name for god sake

Even if it ended been edo they are still thesame people yorubas chaii una like killing to much

Oshi5403:
But Going By Your Word,why Was There No War Between The Benin Empire And The Oyo Empire?

If Benin had meant oyo benin would have ended it because the empire was never strong internally and the remains of the war would have made significant impact in the heart of yorubas

goalernestman:
I found gregyboy as Edo boy and still said this never happened. I Gus you most be Yoruba.

Like what I said only Yoruba are the ones saying this that never happened

Saying benin had a war encounter with oyo how

Oshi5403:
I Will Like You To Go To Benin And Ask,you Will Be Well Informed About That.

I am from Benin and nothing like that...and you guys shouldn't go and write any article on it in net to bring it alive it is pure lies let it end

YourNemesis:
Oyo and Benin empires didn't wage war on one another. How could they when one saw the other as a brother.
Although Benin waged war on some Yoruba Kingdoms like Akure, Owo and Ado that was only because Oyo didn't care. Both empires had previously agreed on where to demarcate their boundary, Somewhere between Ekiti and Ilesha. I forgot the name of that village.

Benin never saw oyo as an empire or brothers i believe it only had to take time before the benins would have enterd the whole of yoruba state untill the britsh came to stop them in 1897. oyo.was an empire that never fought any renowed war the inky war they fought they lost and the ines win they struggled to win. The empire was merely based on social agrrement . we still don't even know how the oyo empire emerged to became an empire what we know was when the intended to expand the empire to all yoruba state. that when the yoruba civil war started....again regardless of the population of oyo benin would have taken the empire down with guns and cannon oyo empire was more of confedrate empire

goalernestman:
Just tell me more about the Oyo and Benin war please
Ida Benin war was more of not won by the both but Ida and Benin have it in their history but this one you are speaking of I found it that only Yoruba people have it.

Lol...they make lies alot you bother yourselves to question them ....

The only war benin would have had with the oyo empire was the war benin aided ekiti as a tributary under itself to wage war against the egba people which the ekiti won

Benin empire was greater than oyo empire....

The benin empire influence stretches beyond the southern part of nigeria covering the oyo empire itself.....the benin empire had indirect influence in the whole of southern Nigeria the south west,south south,se they where wars recored abouth the benins and the akure and ekiti where benin came victorious .on the other hand oyo was an empire not bounded by millitary strength but rather social contract it was more of a Confederate empire it was really not a true empire compare to benin thats why it declined early before the benin empire this are also reasons why oyo lost wars to the Fulani's and even the Dahomey female warrior's but benin never lost any war because of the vast knowledge on military in the empire... Tracing it to the origin benin still becomes greater as oduduwa known in ife was actually a benin prince known as izoduwa before is banishment....

This what made old Rodger stood up and gave a man a knock plucking the mango tree...

Why do they have to put red sand on the road after construction i have never seen such in developed nations from the image above the roads looks untied and very unpleasant and if they have to use sand let them use sharp sand

RedboneSmith:
For the same of this argument, let us even accept that you are correct and Benin incorporated and regularly administered all the areas you mentioned. It still doesn't cover the entirety of Southern Nigeria. The bulk of the Southeast + Cross River and Akwa Ibom had neither direct nor indirect contact with your Benin, and they are still southern Nigeria.

It is plain dumb to speak of a "capital of Southern Nigeria" at a time when Nigeria or Southern Nigeria wasn't even a geographical expression let alone a political reality.

PS: Early maps about the African hinterland were notoriously inaccurate. That is an old argument; no need to rehash.

The maps where by territorial influence the war between the British and benin was as a result oba of benin stoping the trading of any vsssal state with the british the british went ahead to trade with people at abia he warned against it tho the state wasnt a vassal ...the news got the British people it provoked the britsh that they soon saw a need to bring down benin before they could fully penetrate southern part of nigeria effectively ...this is to show you that benin had indirect control of the whole southern part of nigeria as at then indirectly especially on the issue of trade the Portuguese drew the maps based on influence they saw in benin to the southern part of nigeria ...are you aware that different ethnic group from the southern part of nigeria made direct influence to benin powers ...get the love to read history before you talk on history the itsekeris where the fishermen of the empire they are some edo migrant who can be found in ondo,ekiti,rivers,..it would be correct to say edo indirect influence to the southern oart of nigeria lack of good administration made them not to have direct influence

RedboneSmith:
LOL.

You and the OP, how do you people manage to type stuff like this with a straight face?

There was no such thing as a "capital of Nigeria" or "capital of southern Nigeria" pre-British conquest. Benin was only the capital of the part of the present-day South-South (by no means all of the south-south) which it regularly administered. Nothing more.

Decieve yourself to feel better the Maps are there for you to see the benin extended to the south west and south east and even north central kogi
It extended to the south west to osun ,ekiti,ondo,eko to the south east to onistha ,to the central kogi this influence where indirect influnce with a little direct influence on the vassal because of lack admistrative skills ....if you need prove go in research your self

DerideGull:
Any habitat not meant for human is a jungle. It could be savannah, grassland, Sahel or tropical rain forest. Even some humanly habited places such as Nigeria could be added as jungle.

Lol africa is a jungle.... Buhari is the tiger atiku is the lion ....

DerideGull:
How did you determine this statement? The type of game they hunt will tell you much about their strength.

There will be need to create a thread for it ...this discussion may derail tge thread...but personal i have done my research you could go look fir further comment on quora with peoples you would get a clearer picture

Was this not this lady that was showing of her boyfriend months ago and the guy squeezs the succulent butt of hers money really confuss ladies if she get another maga now she go delete this post

masseratti:
totally wrong, both cats av had duels nd none won completely, lions do stay in variety of habitat, jungle(forest) , grasslands and mountains. Lion to Africa while tiger to Asia.

Tigers are stronger than lions get your fact right

Uglymugg:
Wow. Is this true?

Yea it is true everyone is just lazy to research and change the fallacy

That lions are the king of the jungle.. Meanwhile lions never stay in a jugle but a grassland and tiger is more stronger than a lion

[quote author=EVILFOREST post=76360340]Taught us that the BLACKS are better than the WHITES.
How, please...?
They kept telling us that it’s because of the OPPORTUNITIES the whites were exposed to..
PLEASE who created these opportunities for the Whites in their lands...
Was it God...or themselves...??

Lazy Continent
Even Copy and Paste we no sabi

Youre the first person to make a sensible comment this year

Arent she a nigga if he decides to call you black it is also an issue Black's in the u.s got to keep shut better still return to africa you wont experience any form of rascim but heavy tribalism

Why wont he die of stroke when he worked on bobby risky and jubril from sudan

danny56:
Oh okay, but make we still give bubu... The man na evil to West Africa. True!

Haha...u be idiot u just make me dey laff

I feel this is not love annie is showing tuface it is saving the marriage and herself but tuface wouldn't really change with the way she is taking it...no matter how much she thinks she can over look it a day would come she will be fed up tuface is simply a male LovePeddler

Thats a west african queen precisely benin all hail the oba

Rivers of blood.... The state where they empower thuggery the north who are the apirant didnt kill themselves this way like port Harcourt did to themselves

Weedfree:
If it was delta state they probably would have met the itsekiri first but if it was Lagos they would first arrive in aworis land that Benin kingdom conquered.

Who siad they didnt meet the itsekiri they did but Benin ruled over them and occupied thier land to the coast so when the Portuguese came they were directed to the palace it was later after many century before Benin ventured into eko

Weedfree:
IF u had read my previous post u would know that I supported u by saying they possibly arrived through Lagos probably the part that belongs to Benin kingdom.
AND the bight of Benin was probably called that because Benin kingdom was probably the most favoured by the Portuguese.

Probably not lagos delta state

KingsleySmart:
And why is this not on front page

All this animals in uniform
Better vote for atiku

You are mad for saying this just the way youre helpless same as the rest nigerians voting atiku are too when atiku would be busy stealing money for is generation from your own generation he won't remeber anything is going on in the country vote sowore and be conscience free

IkpuMmadu:
They must understand that this is 21st century not some 16th century what rules the world today is capacity building and enterprenuership but these two things are lacking in Benin

Lived in ogida ...upper Siluko Rd! To be honest the average Benin dude is not ready to face the 21st century! They are content with their 16th century fetish lifestyle with King worship

The world ain't waiting ...people are moving forward

I totally disagree on the worship culture i am a benin man most benin elderly men still hold still to their original culture everyone in benin hold still to the oba of Benin even the state govenor but most youth are atheist in nature tho they go to church but they will defend thier original religion first over the white men own if thier religion was been looked down upon by a different tribe apart from Thiers that doesn't mean they give a Bleep about it or worship it literally they give a Bleep on no religion but dont insult Thiers that is the rule..the myth that benin fly are those days you hardly see a benin youth in nigeria this days that would have time to fly as a witch around when the rest are making money in ghana...benin from creation till early 2000 has changed religiously don't be fooled by people opinion the problem in benin now is over migrarion of the youth outside the country leading to its underdevelopment not the witches

IkpuMmadu:
Benin People always dwelling in some falsified past to make them feel relevant...none take you guys serious again

Yea you are right tho as a Benin man you're actually correct this generation of Benin take glory in the works of thier forefathers some which even died protecting thier empire the great men made it possible any benin man wasnt sold as slaves but the new generations now already selling themselves as slaves to the white men of italy in a bid to get a better life most indigenous benin youth aint in thier town not even in nigeria but most will come online to boast on the works of thier forefathers ...time as changed it is the time of the yorubas to be great if it falls on the children of benin again good but for now grestnesss is faraway from them once great now falling

labani06:
hmm do you think the people of HAUSA LAND would believe you with this story of yours do u think the great KANEM EMPIRE of BORNO one of the oldest empire in the world do you do will all believe you don't forget KANEM even rule some part of Arab land in Africa .or do u think the black Jews of Africa A. K. A NDI IGBO will believe you

It will be correct if he says benin was formal capital of southern part of nigeria which include the sw,ss,se tho thier influnce didnt spread to all but they made considerable effect indirectly to southern part of nigeria