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freemanbubble:
All these university shuttle na die

Our own here for uniben worse
Most of the buses dey catch fire in thier way to new Benin or ring road

Even you want check whether Nigerian students get patience
Then watch them how dey can queue up just to wait for school shuttle because it is cheap. Especially on raining day

Uniben stud to full nairaland jare .but guy me never enter shuttle for inside school make shuttle catch fire for road

Guestlander:
Basically you have no evidence other than your ego to tell us the heads of dead Oba of Benin were not buried in Ife. I even told you the location in Ife. Perhaps you can go there and dig.

I still wonder why is only the benin oba heads that are buried there even the rest Yoruba kings are absconded from the burial something is fishy here....dont you think only on nairaland in the full goggle you can find the writeup of orun oba ado

I smell lies

The benin museum should be built like this

PureMind2:
Put ban on snipper fg

For what we need it here in uniben hostel .we Uniben student go protest if fg bann sniper

Oyo na scam see a yoruba many like sand come they follow bini people when just they one city for state they drag history.come they lie join untop our head.... They said our obas go to bury thier heads at ife but The rest yoruba monarchs dont ....and i asked y

rhektor:
Ogiso bloodline that pays rent to Ogiso how does that sound to you? Do you even think before writing this? I remember that you and davidnazee were doing this same thing on the ọba of Benin visit ooni of Ìfẹ́ thread but you were trashed by olu317 BabaRamota1980, Obalufon etc you ran away when the heat was much more than you can take

Another useless mention from the Yoruba's ....baseless point given not even pertaining to the topic based on no evidence. a typical Yoruba arguer...nothing much expected from a million tribe, that over time couldnt document thier history .and just a group of people who are not beyond thousand could document thier history

johnnyjustcome:
your comment is needless

Say that to your self

So our oba heads will be cut of to ile ife ..hmm skul minners at thier lies again can somebody show me the place they bury the head otundo historian

Xaos:
I can't propose to my woman in front of an audience.

What if she says no?
How then do I savage myself?!

I can only propose to my woman on the moon.
If she says no — she should find her way back to earth.

Savage

If na me as soon as i recover na to kill the boy or jail am for life no matter what is your father i just imagine if it had been a stranger that beat is mom ....at 21 is already a killer at young age like that

PhenomenalMorgan:
Hmm
Not a surprise...
Benue people aren't foolish enough to vote and reinforce a party that condones senseless shedding of blood!!!

Youre just a partisan you're not for the interest pf the people .a state governor that allows the everyday massacre of is people by the Fulani herdsmen and promise to compensate any Fulani
Who's cook was angrily attacked ....you're disgrace to Nigeria you shouldn't have been born

goalernestman:
Benin was even more popular and large they where more larger than oyo by a distance and more populated too,

The oba of Benin can control 200,000 army in a day and x's of it in a week.

It only empire that can do this I bet oyo don't even have up to 20,000 solders to fight a war at this time.

Benin walls was at that time hardest man mad work in the world it consume more equipment and more man power than Egypt piramy according to European who came to Benin then and was recorded in 16th 17th century genes book of record.

So do you think that was done by a few peps.?

What are you saying Benin was all southern Nigeria both south igbo warri nd south yoruba including Niger deleta was Benin then.

Southern nigeria it doesn't mean south south Nigeria it means all you just said

geosegun:
That was probably during the civil war, hence brother rise against brother even Ife and Modakeke still fought recently...so save me that, that why its called a civil war.

"The war started partly as a result of the struggle between various Yoruba districts as well as the attack on Ife towns by Olowu Amororo, an action considered as sacrilegious because of the sacredness of Ile -Ife in Yoruba land the supposed spiritual birthplace of the Yorubas.

The result of his action became a disaster for the Owu people in their origina abode and threw the whole of Yoruba land into civil war.

The Owu were thoroughly defeated by the combined forces of Ibadan and Ijebu, and the Oni of Ife, the spiritual head of the Yorubas, ordered with his constitutional authority, that the Owu capital, Orile-Owu must be destroyed with no human existence."

If Benin tried such- I can bet you the Benin Kingdom would have been history too (FACT) - just like the Owu - You don't bite the finger that fed you.


" There were two major attacks on Abeokuta by the Dahomiens. The first in 1851, under king Gezo, who used female warriors, the ‘AMAZONS’ during which Dahomey was not only defeated by the great Egba, but it lost more than three thousands soldiers.

Gezo’s son and successor, Gelele, swore to avenge his father’s humiliation and defeat, made the second attempt with more soldiers in 1863, but lost about five thousand soldiers. It was a big lesson for them in their attempt to get hold of the rich areas of Yoruba hinterland. These victories were due to the collective efforts of Egba, including Owu."

That is just a snapshot of some of the expeditions against Dahomey.

I wonder why you will compare the strength minute Benin (named by the founder of the OYO empire) to the more popular and effective Oyo Empire. When the Oyo Empire was growing in strength and fighting and winning wars with the neighbors in the northern part close to river Niger. Benin was still under a baby ruler named EWEKA I, so what are guys talking about

You just made me laugh and cry at thesame time
Yoruba history that i know ...the oyo empire you praised was nothing to withstand the benins not even if they were all giving guns....the Nupes who defeated oyo was also defeated by the benins...the jihad which was spreaded to edo was overcame by the benin .i repeat the whole of yoruba nation would have not been able to defeat the tiny benin at thay time not even with calvary and guns...
The British stop benin from entering the whole southern nigeria that was the luck.before the advent of British the oyo had no guns it was during the late 18c before guns where giving to the yorubas for slave so how would it be possible for the whole yorubas defeat tiny benin.its always by population my yoruba brothers

slawomir:
That is why i love one for Seven men

They don't fight over a girl
They look for stupid birds and clip their wings

Dodorima to my brothers

Africa map is the logo and black is the colour

I sure say u join people when terrorized student for ekosodin

geosegun:
This is where you mixed it up. I said Yoruba as a whole? A war could be differentiated from “pockets of battles” that happened in isolations.
Now, Hausa/Fulani was able to sack Oyo via ambush not in a battle one on one. They were only able to even do this because they betrayed Afonja a bonifide son of Oyo. Note that Oyo finally and completely won the subsequent battles at Ajese ipo. Nupe/ Tapa - that was in uprising during tax / Isakole and remember Sango’s Mother was a Nupe woman. Hence the battle was taken with gloff’s hand. The same thing happened with Benin - how can the Father/Progenitor (Yoruba) fight the son (Benin)? What an abomination!!! Yoruba have values and adores bloodlines. If you look at those Benin issues closely you will realise that the ancestors were possibly the trouble makers (could be very stubborn and proud?) and are mostly ignored most times. I think there was an occasion that a Yoruba - An Ijesha/Ekiti warrior decided to treat their fu)K-up. You know the rest of the history. Even - Oyo was warned never to attack Iwerre Ile (Warri) no matter what happen - because one of the Oyo Kings mothers was from Iwerre Ile (now known as Warri). Go and read Dahomey history again, they were largely ignored because of the on going civil way within the Oyo empire at that time. Etc etc... how many wars have Benin Fought with other Kingdom? Just nae 2?

For you to even mention all these list shows how relevant the Oyo empire was and recognised. I wonder why you like to say otherwise in most of your comments. That shows pure envy, man. So young man go and learn history. I repeat no one can undo Yoruba general achievements even up to the current and future generations. We are still and will continue to be the trail blazers and pace setters. The Benin Kingdom would have been the last surviving African Kingdom but for stubbornness and pride as I have explained earlier.

Please note that I am not talking down on what Benin Kingdom or her achievements, never will I. They’ve done well. But you don’t try to down trods on other people’s achievements just because you want to rise and be relevant? It is not done this way. We will continue to show maturity and appreciates our Benin sons and brothers - blood they say is thicker than water.

Even the most Revered lle ife was attacked by egba they even fought in the iljaye war so what was so special not fighting benin and abomination in it. if you want me to read you Yoruba history i would but am a benin man

What is the need of the census...npc just they find way to siphon money

geosegun:
You and greyboy are just bitter against Yoruba successful expeditions and global acceptance for nothing and I still wonder why you are always bitter about Yoruba successes and achievements. Always trying to discredit everything concerning Yoruba with your lies and propaganda. No human fore bearer of any human or alien ancestor extinct or alive can undone what the Yoruba have achieved from time immemorial.

We didnt loose our crown to a guy from Mecca or a demon from heaven we lost it to our bloodline d ogiso bloodline if he wasnt a booldline of the ogiso as you claim he would have died before even coming to benin

The Dahomey took advantage of the on going rancour and internal disputes as the power of Alaafin was waning due to internal agitation and displeasure and hence subsequent weakening of the central and arrear defense. Many Yoruba Town and villages were formed during this period due to exodus of people form Oyo and it environs. There have never been any defeat to the entire Yoruba by war. Dahomey only secede with minimal restrictions. Normally Alaafin would have pronounce a decree for the head of their King but had to look away because his empire was already on fire due to internal civil war.

Let me tell you a secrete today. Do you know why the Yoruba never lost a war? It is because they normally consult IFA to know if they will win the war or not, just like Kings of Israelite, If they know they will loose a war? they will tactically retract and go for an accord instead. This is one of the main reasons why the Yoruba never fought the British when they came to our shore. IFA did let them know, it was a war, they can never win because of the advance technology of the British. It also told them its a blessing in disguise and hence the full embrace of the British when they came. They did fore-warn their distant cousin, the ruling house of Benin, but they never listened. as you know, they could be very stubborn sometimes and hence the sore defeat of 1898 during the "Punitive Expedition"

Go and learn history properly, old man, no human/alien civilization has ever won the Yoruba in a war. Even most of the Yoruba people that were sold into slavery were done so, by their own Kinsmen (during civil war) and not by outsider. Yoruba are the main culprits of selling their conquered to the Europeans as slaves. So you see, you need to get your fact right before discrediting fact.

The same Reasons why your Benin ancestors lost the Kingdom shamefully is what you and the likes of greyboy are doing to discredit the finger that fed them. Such an ungrateful and stubborn personalities cum irredeemable inferiority complex. The river that forget it source shall surely dry.

I bet the Benin crown will never do this...

We didnt loose our crown to a guy from Mecca or a demon from heaven we lost it to our bloodline d ogiso bloodline if he wasnt a booldline of the ogiso as you claim he would have died before even coming to benin

Our nigeria soldier think is all about strength or muscle. the useless civilian we all start to hail them because majority are illiterate... I still cant connote the reason why our soldiers will devslope only the body and not develope thier brains to be equipped or maybe they are developing the body to oppress the bloody civilians...

Olu317:
The Igodomigodo are a funny people and are revisionists. They virtually copied, everything civilization from Yoruba but refuse to be thankful. Even their language and names infiltrated with Yoruba.

The route of olokun worship into Bini could be through your view but there is no iota of doubt that the olokun custodian in Bini came from IFE either directly or through migration to these places you mentioned before it got to Bini.The reason for this assertion is that,custodian and devotees introduce his/her

ancestral worship to new environment if there is a perceive problems that's related to such orisha(gods).

Bini need be thankful to yoruba, because they became civilized through the introduction of Oba , Ìdà-Àdà (sword), cloth making,iron cast,sculpture work etc,which their palace used as a form of strength for oppression of the Efa, Ijaw, Bantu,Nupe-Nok groups.

See a tribe talking about civilization... Hmm a tribe that was defeated countlessly in war ...lemme even believe your history of a man coming to introduce yoruba worship to us ..but they where many tribe before the advent of the whitemen that Yoruba's concentrated yet they dont practice olokun worship. compare to benin that the only yoruba migrant are from the northern part of edo ...it was a war when the British brought Christianity to be accepted by the Benin's they turned it down because it wasnt indegenous then why would a yoruba god be different and not turned down too?....no matter how you try to bend it .it fact that a minority tribe gave you all your indeginous worship just the way illorin was giving Islam... When orimiyan left benin he took the benin worship to yoruba nation

No one can still explain what benin culture is doing in the home land of olokun they say is indigenous

Oshi5403:
Neither Will I Believe The Ekadarhan Myth Or The Izoduwa Myth.

Something tell me you're partially biased or your half yoruba even if you're igbo....even if you denial it i fucking dont care.... If i was to be from another i will pick that of the benin in all sense of reasoning it correlate ....i shouldn't just doubt you like that
Now Tell me why dont you believe the benin version of reality of Oduduwa when it affirm all manner of reality

Oshi5403:
Every Tribe Is Trying Hard To Protect There Dignity And Respect With Cooked Up History.
Thanks.

You're are smart you could deduce yourself ....but don't believe that mecca shit or the sky diving demon

Opiletool:
You this ugly boy, you're too dumb for my liking. How many people are dressed in benin attire in that picture compared to those dressed in yoruba attire?
Besides, if a bini man is there, does it mean that bini owns the god?
Do you know how many countries in which olokun is being worshipped?
So if a man from Trinidad or Cuba who also worships olokun is present in that picture, it also means that Cuba owns olokun?

You're such a disappointment to those who wasted funds on your education. We are saying you got the worship from a source, you are saying a bini man is in the picture. Are u this cretinous? Lol. So laughable.

Se ehn, people like you can never acquire knowledge, because you argue not to learn but to massage ur fragile ego. Shows you're still a kid. Bye.

Stop ranting the beaded hair dress worn by the ladies signify edo culture ....and yes if a Benin man dressed in his native attire and not that of the tribe the you says own the true worship then a message is indirectly passed there....a yoruba man will be in mist of where olokun is worshipped in Benin i just imagine how possible it will be ...in the olds before tribalism if an edo man was to seat in mist of other tribe he will be giving kola to break as we where seen superior traditionally.....

Modified the true religion of the yorubas is islam edo gave the yorubas the other gods

Olu317:
All the times,I have seen you and many of your likes peddling lies online because of inferiority complex. I can't just imagine the reason you and chunks of Edos who are interested in ‘culture section' want to match Yoruba glory by deceptive means.

Interestingly, the etymon of ‘Olo' is derived from Olu(Lord- god-master) of ‘Okun' and ‘Okun' is( large body of water-sea). Does ‘Olu- Olo' have this same meaning in Edo lexicon? Perhaps,you know wjat we dont know. I known it as a fact that Osanobua is what is known in Edo as lord-God, which is also borrowed from Yoruba's Oosá- Orísá. So ,kindly note, it is not of Edo origin but Yoruba's.

Furthermore, the world headquarter of Olu-okun-Olokun is in Yoruba land,which nullify your POOR opinion. Infact, Yoruba man created Bini, with his own opinion when he saw anger in Igodomigodp in which you ignorantly boast over in today's world . Isn't it even a shame for you to boast over such name given to you by a conqueror? Even Oba is also has Yoruba etymon and the most revered king in Edo is also a descendant of a Yoruba man.

This picture just doubted everyfact you just stated untill you prove the picture wrong.
it only shows here in other for the yorubas to fully get the presence of olokun n' urhonigbe they must dress in the benin regalia and a benin man must be in there in thier mist this can never happen in the oba palace.... I love when the Yoruba's defend thier selves in emptiness

mikaelangelov:
Guy talk true

Yea na

All this delta will just come and be spoiling edo state for we the edos ...he must be an igbo

Modified: it seem this people wont stop unless we start attacking the source which is the native doctors

Oshi5403:
Well,i Appreciate Ur Contributions.Am Just On A Thorough And Extensive Study Of The Three Kingdoms.I Will Be In Benin Palace Very Soon To Interview The Oba Of Benin And His Prime Minister.
Thanks Again.
Am From Enugu State.

You need no visit to benin before you could tell who was superior if you tell me youre going to oba palace for tourism i will hear not for an argument you know the answer already to ...you should be comparing the benin empire with sokoto not oyo an alien can already tell who was superior with the comment

Oshi5403:
You Are Making Your Auguement To Be Tribalistically Based.
Thanks.

Not me tge yorubas are distorting history because we are small

Oshi5403:
The Claim Of Unification Of The Whole Of Yoruba Land By The Oyo Empire Under One Rule Is A Kind Of Confederational System Of Government.The Ife,ilesha Etc Kingdom Were Unified With The Oyo Empire,but The Greatest Power Reside With Component States And Not The Central.

Other Parts Of Yoruba Land That Were Conquestly Subjugated Under The Oyo Empire Were Full Proof Subjects Of The Oyo Empire,under The Unitary System Of Government Of The Oyo Empire.

Confederation And Unitarisation Are Different System Of Govts
Thanks.

Now you're talking the empire was never use to war in an attempt by the oyo to strength is power within the confedral state that's when the kiriji war broke out....

Oyo empire in anyway shouldn't be used to compare the benin empire it just sad the benins is just a city against the yoruba 5 state it is a pity our voice cant go louder even when we try to tell the real story

Izuogu1:
I need one of this Abeg..How can I place order?

Seriously do people like you use head to think or buttocks i dont get what interest you in someone's agony

I still prefer edo aircraft anyday federal govt should inveest in it

Olu317:
All the times,I have seen you and many of your likes peddling lies online because of inferiority complex. I can't just imagine the reason you and chunks of Edos who are interested in ‘culture section' want to match Yoruba glory by deceptive means.

Interestingly, the etymon of ‘Olo' is derived from Olu(Lord- god-master) of ‘Okun' and ‘Okun' is( large body of water-sea). Does ‘Olu- Olo' have this same meaning in Edo lexicon? Perhaps,you know wjat we dont know. I known it as a fact that Osanobua is what is known in Edo as lord-God, which is also borrowed from Yoruba's Oosá- Orísá. So ,kindly note, it is not of Edo origin but Yoruba's.

Furthermore, the world headquarter of Olu-okun-Olokun is in Yoruba land,which nullify your POOR opinion. Infact, Yoruba man created Bini, with his own opinion when he saw anger in Igodomigodp in which you ignorantly boast over in today's world . Isn't it even a shame for you to boast over such name given to you by a conqueror? Even Oba is also has Yoruba etymon and the most revered king in Edo is also a descendant of a Yoruba man.

Lol...your make me laff lets assume oba belongs to the yorubas it was never used to represent kingship untill recently the yorubas under the edi territory took upin the name oba to respresent kings this alone will tell you oba doesn't belong to yorubas but the word oba got there through conquest ....

Olo kun its not “olu kun" dont forge meaning to it my friend again if olu is lord in yoruba why not use olu instead of oba in adressing kings it just shows the yoruba took the name oba from edo through conquest the same way we call our monarchs “kings" through british conquest and the same way illorin call thier monarchs emir and not the original yoruba title .for the record omo n' ba means a child that shine it was a form of praise giving to him

It is “osanobua" not orisha" benin have no word like orisha that it will even think to derive the word from it ...

I want to ask you a question it is well known benin conqured and rule over ekiti,ondo,Lagos and the fulani over kwarra and illorin now tell me who will pass thier culture to each other. is it the conquered or conquerer? Because i am not understanding you, orimiyan came to benin he didnt even enter the palace because he was too fearful to fight and he left. so i still wonder how you think that man brought all this gods to benin it is only reasonable to say this small benin people spread the gods to the yorubas through war it is well noted in the picture above ....

My friend if you cant tell me how this gods entered benin and what are edo worshippers doing in those pictures then shut up it becoming annoying arguing emptinessely with you. i could easily do better than what youre doing now by bring tales and cunning words to have meaning to suit my purpose but there is no need to a tribe that cant even tell where oduduwa came from want to claim ownership to history don't make me laff please

Oyo empire military was weak internally and externally it was more of a large kingdom all the wars fought by oyo they lost