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oba is alien word to yoruba until the 1800 they saw the power of the name and adopted it through british influence regardless of them having thier respective title for kings

TAO11:
Ogiso is sky King.

Ogie is King in Edo

Oba for King is Yoruba and alien to Edo.

Hmm...ha oba king in yorubs ha i lafff tell that to the igbos

Ooni is king
Allafin is king
Nothing more every king have it own title which represent king
That's why benins gave thier subject different names to conote kingship in thier domain the oba could have given all is vassal state enogie of thier town if enogie really coonate kings as you emphasize it only tells you that enogie means royalty to the bloodline of the ogiso while the rest kings bore different titles because they not related to the ogiso dynasty ....oba is king in benin and not yoruba word
if you wanna comtinue this argument tell me how come eweka who grew up in benin new a word far away in osun and why is ooni using teo titles to rep king

TAO11:
Ogiso = Sky King (from Ogie and Iso)

Ogie = King.

You whispered oba in eweka hear when he was choosing the title ....

You are ready to teach me my language

We are not like the cunning tribe of yours if we go by that ooni means king and not oba it is a tutorlogy to use two title representing kings to adress ooni already ooni stand for king this shows that oba was adopted into the context by the influence of britsh on whst they saw in Benin

Bitch go suck some dick and let men argue

TAO11:
OGISO means SKY-KING a.k.a "KING from the SKY"

Go argue with your fellow Edos on this or perhaps with the Oba of Benin.

They see themselves as gods doesn't really mean I agree that they are really gods.

But at least that's what they and the ancient people see them as.

And "Ogiso" means "Sky-King"! Don't let your fellow Binis catch you arguing against this fact.

Ogie royalty

Enogie: royalty at viillage level

Oba king

Osa( God)

Ogiso royalties from sky children of osa the god king

Oba means king that why no one bears apart from the oba but everyone bears ogie.... If really the word oba comes from yoruba how did eweka get to know about it be that he never meant is dad one on one abd he nevee went to ife so how did yorubas actually influenced the word oba on eweka

TAO11:
Lies!

"OGIE" means "KING" and

"OGISO" (from: OGIE and ISO) means "SKY-KING"

It doesn't even sound any close (by any stretch of the imagination) to the Yoruba word for "KING" i.e. "OBA"

The word "OBA" for "KING" is alien to Edo lexicon.

An entirely different EDO word which is also spelt as O-B-A but IS PRONOUNCED ENTIRELY DIFFERENTLY doesn't not mean "KING".

Not only does it sound differently and pronounced differently; it also have a different meaning from "king".

It means "to shine" as used for the sun or something bright. The word is not even a noun.

And contrary to your twisting and spinning it has been part of Edo lexicon since time immemorial and it has always been used to convey the idea of "shining".

It wasn't coined by any Izoduwa. It has always been used by the Edos to describe the concept of brightness it shinning. It has always been part of the Edo lexicon Otherwise what was the Edo word for "shining" or "to shine", etc. prior to your imaginary coinange? Lol!



The word "OBA" meaning "KING" on the other hand is:

1. Is pronounced differently

2. Sounds differently

3. Have a different meaning

4. Was alien to Edo lexicon prior to Oranmiyan.


You need to stop lying to yourself!

nothing like sky kings gal....
we have only one sky king osanobua....(the sky king)

run along girl go do some makeup let the men argue

TAO11:
Just like I may ask you:

What are the NAMES of the parents of OGISO IGODO (who was the 1st Ogiso of Igodomigodo)?

Where there people in Igodomigodo land before he ruled as king?

How did he rise to power?

Did he fall from the sky?

Did he grow out from the soil like a plant?

If you don't know the NAMES of his parents (among other questions here), DO we then conclude that IGODO is a migrant to Igodomigodo from CHINA?

Your particular questions here in the context of our exchange here is an indication of a quite poor logic!

However, this is not to say there are no answers to your question. I am only pointing out how the questions in no way helps your point.

But for the sake of learning, I have once read a really well researched and detailed work that answers these questions viz.: "A History of the Yoruba People"

by a University of South Florida Professor who is also one of the world's leading historians and researchers on Yoruba history: S. Banji Akintoye.

You could refer to this book for your question and more further questions you may have. But if I find it before you, I'd definitely put it up here.

Are you saying you dont by the idea of the oduduwa by your brothers saying he fell from sky or came from mecca.....
Ogiso where men whom adress themselves as gods here on earth they brought the now benin into existence.... The myth of them coming from sky was the overrated stories told by the then ogiso of olds which izoduwa took to ile ife to proclaim many yoruba Reverend him so much they believe it....

You are the first person to say oduduwa brought all yorubas into organization hmm the normal stories we hear is migration resulting in finding new lands.and untill awolowo united all yourubas in 90 not oduduwa...odudwa knew nothing of anything you speak of him now many yoruba historian believe he was the founder of the yoruba race....this leaves me a question for you who is the founder of the yoruba race

TAO11:
Lol, I coined words? Whatever make you feel unbittered!

Your smartphone with internet connection can also help you relieve ignorance since you're obviously stumbling upon certain words and information for the first time.

gods were real human before they were admitted into pantheons. These specific guys ruled as kings in some of the states of Ile-Ife.

And no Yoruba uses the word "Oba" as meaning "God" it's always "King"

It goes to rubbish your claim that "Oba" wasn't until the British arrived.

The Yorubas had all their gods intact (including Obalufon, Obatala, Obameri, Obaluaye, etc) before the arrival of the British.

You're doing damage control now!

May be you should tell us what the Edo words "OGIE" and "OGISO" actually mean.

And after that tell us when the word "OBA" first replaced the word "OGISO" and "OGIE" and why the replacement in Edo-land

ogie meaning royalty
ogiso kings from the sky or royalty from the sky let it not be confuse as king

oba : king and not royalty

ogiemien who stumbled upon the throne after the death of ogiso had no ogiso linage an oracle was consulted and the progenitor of ogiso was found in ife whom later was the grandson of izoduwa he was later brought to benin but he couldnt cope with the rationality of the benin people, he had to leave leaving behind is son. the son grew up with no father he was simply trained by chiefs after he succeeded removing ogiemien the commoner from the throne he came up with a title oba(shinning) coined from the word white(ba) in edo which was later refer to as king

TAO11:
Lol, I coined words? Whatever make you feel unbittered!

Your smartphone with internet connection can also help you relieve ignorance since you're obviously stumbling upon certain words and information for the first time.

gods were real human before they were admitted into pantheons. These specific guys ruled as kings in some of the states of Ile-Ife.

And no Yoruba uses the word "Oba" as meaning "God" it's always "King"

It goes to rubbish your claim that "Oba" wasn't until the British arrived.

The Yorubas had all their gods intact (including Obalufon, Obatala, Obameri, Obaluaye, etc) before the arrival of the British.

You're doing damage control now!

May be you should tell us what the Edo words "OGIE" and "OGISO" actually mean.

And after that tell us when the word "OBA" first replaced the word "OGISO" and "OGIE" and why the replacement in Edo-land

ogie meaning royalty
ogiso kings from the sky or royalty from the sky let it not be confuse as king

oba : king and not royalty

ogiemien who stumbled upon the throne after the death of ogiso had no ogiso linage an oracle was consulted and the progenitor of ogiso was found in ife whom later was the grandson of izoduwa he was later brought to benin but he couldnt cope with the rationality of the benin people, he had to leave leaving behind is son. the son grew up with no father he was simply trained by chiefs after he succeeded removing ogiemien the commoner from the throne he came up with a title oba(shinning) coined from the word white(ba) in edo which was later refer to as king

TAO11:
I guess it was until the British arrived that the Yorubas had gods who once ruled as kings in Ife, such:

Oba-tala
Oba-lufon
Oba-meri
Oba-luaye
etc.


"OBA" is the INDIGENOUS YORUBA Yoruba word meaning KING! Just like "OGIE" is the INDIGENOUS EDO word meaning KING.

In addition to the word OBA, each Yoruba KINGDOM have DIFFERENT additional word which represent the TITLE of the OBA of that YORUBA KINGDOM, and it is UNIQUE.


Ignorance be making people yarn dust!

Lol...you coined words to suit your claims

Oba lufon meaning "king lufon" but how come all the gods are bearing oba there must be a conspiracy here .the oba use in this name was more of “god lufon" and not king lufon as you proclaim .
i could also say benin kings in the ogiso era bore oba godo ,oba khawaye to counter your claims...fact been said with no bias the british influenced the word oba in the westjust the way it did to the popular lagos title eleko to oba

She still remains my best first lady.
this aisha too dry self ,everything for this buhari regime hard even to lagh self na crime
baba God give me the angel number when send me come nigeria we get discussion

TAO11:
I expected the question: where then is Oduduwa from if he's not from Benin? Lol!

You had been long brainwashed into believing in the false idea that people can only be from Benin or nowhere else.

Well, to answer your question:

Oduduwa is from Ile-Ife


And the Yoruba race is several millennials before Oduduwas will ever be conceived.

Although, he later became the first person to unify all the many 13 or 15 Ile-Ife kingdom states under one political rule.

He became the first central king of Ile-Ife in addition to all the kings of the different states that have long existed in Ile-Ife.

If he was from ile ife who was is parents how did he rise to power where are is linage did he fall from sky was he a migrant

arazanbal:
even when they where not name obas but the have ruled bini kingdom before the coming of the obas we see today,infact the ogiso dynasty gave birth to the dynasty to the current oba rulership,even if they where not call oba at that time,you tell me the meaning of OGISO

Was there anytime the yourbas called thier kings oba if not during the time of the British that made it a renowed title for kings in southern western part of nigeria the britsh changed the king of lagos titled from eleko of eko to oba of lagos which was wrong. the other yorubas adopted the names to refer to as “kings" oba was simply a name coined by eweka he never had a father who stayed with him to give him a title ...the truth here is oba was spread to the west by the britsh because of similarities the British saw with the edo prople and yoruba people and again it was difficult pronouncing most of their titles so to make it easy They call them obas as they knew some of this kings in the west trace thier origin to benin regardless of thier titles, so many benin traditions and words that have become general like that of
The benin head dress
The red beads which is significant to be benins alone
The festac mask
Pounded yam and eguisi
Words like ikebe= ass ,aza= bank so many not to mention people use most of these words and culture not knowing they have origin

TAO11:
No, Oduduwa was not a Benin prince.

That's is simply a Benin lie which was first propagated in the amateurish revision of S. B. Omoregie in his 1970 "Edo History"

Cite me one (just one) authoritative world renowned historian who agrees with the modern Benin lie that Oduduwa is Ekaladerhan.



You will find none!

So were is oduduwa from ....was he the founder of the youruba race was he the first king who is oduduwa to yorubas letd know that before we discuss his arrival

Kokoebapluse:
prince of who ? Guy abeggi accept Truth, oromiyan one of odudua son was the father Beni. We are your father not your prince

Self deciet in delusion.... Benin simply took the prince oromiyan back to rule benin as heritage demands a bloodline of ogiso.whom is father was oduduwa and the people of ile ife assumed he was a God ...oduduwa is not the father of Yoruba's neither was he a god other kings have ruled ile ife before oduduwa arrival ...oduduwa simply acknowledged himself as God prince since were he came from ogiso were kings of the skies heavnly kings

Kokoebapluse:
you no dey shame? How can you say death is children of sleep? Can't you see big distance? How can you say Yoruba come from Benin? Go to Congo, Benin republic,Togo, etc there some native Yoruba in those countries they called them (yorubodie ) there are also some part here in Nigeria and their tongue is very close to Yoruba and the some word meaning are close to each other example igala in kogi, it's easier to communicate between yorubodie than Beni people, it's clear that yoruba have 1 tongue before it split around Africa and overseas, and the fact is oromiyan ( deaf and dumb) one of odudua son was father of Beni people. Pls show some respect we are your father not your brother or son. Ok?

oduduwa was a benin prince and he was not a god as the yoruba presumed him to be

The tribe called yorubas are cunning....if they dont add benin to thier history thier amala wont pass thier thrown

NoSidonLook:


the "Nepa dey dry wire" is the usual excuse

aswear that's the most annoying thing about here - Light

It is not. benin is a rain forest zone where the rain falls heavily and occurs with severe wind inother to avoid severe casualty from the rain nepa has to go off for days ....never you step to benin during the raining season

I must go oba palace to hear the full story myself

Nigerians english is mix of both uk and us the u.s pronociation got to nigerians tgrough movies
I check the apoiriate pronouncuation of this words i got to find out nigerians pronounces them in the american accent

forgiveness:
When will we Africans start using our own language as official language?

We are still speaking the slave master's language even after years of independent.

This is called mental slavery.

Shut the hell up africans still enslaving you in your fathers land and your people run to the slaves master ...why didnt you type your opinons in your native language if any would understand you .....africans like you pick rascism against whitemen to suit thier ego

johnpablo541:
Dwayne Johnson's father is a black man. The son of a freed black slave

How sure are you

No bob marley .bob marley is the most influential man a man who did more to the entire black race all over the world with is instrument of justification

Viewing here life at ekosodin waiting to tell my nostalgic stories in time to come i rep uniben

Both parents of the boy would be arrested in edo state by the government for child labour ...the society in edo state disproves this conduct her fellow neighbour's will scorn them for letting thier son go through this. even as edo state is still not an oil state but the standard of life is way higher than that of Delta state

pcwizzy:
Please that was not what happened stop spreding fake news

She went to buy food, asked
for rice and cow leg which the sales girl
dished then She touched the cow leg that
was on her food and asked the girl to add
ånother cow leg to her food making two
cow legs... Then the sales girl åsked why
she touched the cow leg on her food She
replied that it was because the previous
cow legs she has been buying were very
Strong and she wanted to know if she
Should add extra cow leg to her food if
it wasn't so strong. The sales girl started
insulting her she took her food, såt ånd
stårted eating.The girl started insulting
her asking if she can prepare cow leg
not to talk of selecting which to eat.She
didn't respond then the sales girl started
insulting her mom then she went to
where she was serving food and Slåpped
her...She didn't dip her hand in any pot..
This event didn't even take place in UNIBEN , it took place at edpa close which is outside the school but it not too far .

Your welcome

K believe this news instead

schoolboij:
I never said Edo is Ife. I said Owo. Read and comprehend.

Ok....owo's are from ile ife but the royalbloodline is from,edo

schoolboij:
I'm from Owo and my history says we are from Ile Ife. Uselu quarters is in Owo too. I know some of our cultures and names are related to Edo. There's Idaniken in Owo too.

U got the name correctly but soon as you let go yoruba affliction and embrace both culture openly u would know saying edo is from ife is retard

schoolboij:
I'm from Owo and my history says we are from Ile Ife. Uselu quarters is in Owo too. I know some of our cultures and names are related to Edo. There's Idaniken in Owo too.

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Am tallking about the Royal bloodline. not you youre most likely a pure yoruba .benis have given the yorubas so many things to thier culture... Benin is just a city in the whole of edo state thats why the Yoruba, wont accept the fact the tiny benin made impact in thier history

God punish both the girl and the guy only if i was god for a day

Phyqee10:
This is so amazing...lets keep our culture alive.

Misplaced commment does that look like your culture

schoolboij:
How do you mean?

Go and research on goggle ediaken n uselu it will read you the history

Kudos to one of the benins sons ...this same stool made the vacancy of ediaken n uselu vacant uptill date