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The fact is Drogba does not want to play for Chelsea anymore. He has proved it on numerous occasions this season. Avram Grant has even questioned his attitude. So why are we indulging him? Every fucking game he comes on rolling around the pitch like he is injured, playing nonsense (except when he can be bothered to turn up), miscontrolling every ball and every pass, waving his hands in the air all the time and flicking his fried hair like a bloody Argentinian Alice-band gay. I totally blame him for this defeat. Anelka would have finished this team off in the first half. If he doesn't finish them off himself, he will create opportunities for others. If Drogba does not want to play for us anymore, he should Bleep off, I will be the happiest to see him leave.

My brother in-law just called me to complain about Drogba again. I am speaking to him now.

What nonsense!

I don't know why Grant is scared to take Drogba off - WHAT DOES HE FUCKING CONTRIBUTE?

somze:
Maka should me replaced

Abeg leave Maka. He is doing his job. It is your friend Drogba who is bleeping up this game. He is a fucking disgrace. Even if he scores, I am not impressed. This is the umpteenth game he has played like this this season. He should be bleeping substituted straight away. No ball control, no hard work. What a selfish arrogant prat. bleeping idiot!

As for Malouda, what a waste of space!

4 Play:
Nope,if Hitler came back today,you will be defending him because of his enmity with America and Jews.

Who tell you say I hate Jews?

Trust Tayo-D and davidlyan to defend Bill O'Reilly. These guys are so predictable. If Hitler came back today, they will still defend him.

I hope all of you are ashamed of yourselves now.

Akolawole:
3) Can i? i kept my answer in the bag because it is so debatable.

Please reveal this Martian mystery team to us so that we can follow them up on youtube.

First thing you say they are effective, next thing you say they are show-off. Please make up your mind so we can understand where you are coming from.

As for Italy, can you say Roma is competing with InterMilan?

Can you say Barca and Villareal are competing with Real Madrid.

somze:
With the young ones coming in, you should hold that attitude for some time

This season I have followed Chelsea out of hope rather than expectation

somze:
Hopefully Man Utd will show they are the best by winning the CL

I hope not - as for the league, I gave up even before the season started.

O-boy, I always said Man Utd were the best, regardless of what Press were saying.

Premier league being the best is debatable - but it is certainly the hardest league to win because 4 teams challenge for the title unlike Italy and Spain where only two teams challenge.

What is the difference between best and most effective?

Effective is a mechanical term that can be used to describe Jose Mourinho's Chelsea - they were the most effective - but some would argue they were not the best. Man Utd however do not play mechanically. They are the best.

My criterion for judging the best is this - can you name a side better than them. If not, then they are the best.

There is no best coach in the World - in the end, a coach is only as good as his players. IMO Rijkaard is not a very good coach tactically - but he coached the best players in the World at some point - that makes him qualified to be ranked among the best coaches in the world. Mourinho is probably the best coach tactically and mentally - but he is poor at transfer policy and he does not buy the best players - still, he is ranked among the best. Wenger is not so much a winner - maybe not the best coach - but he is a great manager - because management means longevity, building and development and financial prudence. People also forget his unbeaten team of 2003/2004 and some of the wonderful football his team played. He should have also won 2002/ 2003 easily but he messed it up with complacency. SAF may not be the best tactically, but he is good at man management and delegating - if you look closely, you will see that Carlos Queiroz is behind the new revolution at Man Utd

somze:
1. You talked about youngsters some days back, remember? Please answer this by a yes or no.

2. Answer my question. How did you arrive at Man Utd being the best? Don't push it back at me, It lies in your court to prove what you have so stated.

3. Barca played liverpool last season, what was the result?

4. So Vidic is better than Terry?

5. Oga answer the question I asked, Did Jose ask for a new contract? Yes or No. The fall out was with the club, since they did not support him during the Barca Fritz fiasca. Please just answer the question, stop this your evading tactics.

6. I compared him to his predecessor. Oya who is his mate? Please name this person and lets start from there? I have a feeling you will shoot yourself in the foot here.

7. I thought you were supportive of both Ranieri and Grant, my bad. I take 7 back.

(1.) I talked about skillers - if they are young as well, that obviously helps. I was implicitly referring to Anderson and Nani when I compared Mourinho's signing of Malouda to SAF's signing of Nani

(2.) Man Utd are the best because they play the best football, they are top of the Premiership, the best league in the World, they will win the Premiership and more than likely the Champions League - and more importantly, they finish games in the first 20 minutes and stroll through the last 70 minutes of the match, unlike Mourinho's workhorses who have to kwatar for every single point. They are undoubtedly the best and even you sef will take the scales off your eyes by the end of the season. My anger at their dominance is what drives my dissafection for Mourinho and the RUBBISH players he has left us with.

(3.) I said Barca of 2 years ago. Man Utd were the best team last season, regardless of their loss to Milan.

(4.) Vidic is just as good as Terry. I see no difference. Do you? To me, there are about 6 or 7 defenders in the World who have a rightful claim to World's best defender and Vidic and Terry are among them along with Carvalho and Ferdinand. None of them is definitely better than the other and they all have their strong points.

(5.) I think you have answered the question yourself by admitting he had fallen out with the club. He doesn't have to ask for new contract, his advisors make that known through the press - it was clear, IF YOU WERE IN ENGLAND AT THE TIME, that the only way Chelsea could pacify Mourinho was to offer him a new contract. His advisors made that well known - just like they do now, when they say he is discussing with InterMilan - then he denies it. It is all a game to make Barcelona and Real Madrid hurry up and offer him a contract. You should know these things by now. Abi you be small pikin?

(6.) His mate is SAF, Wenger, Ancelloti, Capello, Lippi, Rijkaard, Schuster, Hiddink etc.

somze:
Ibime
You made some misleading comments before and when I replied you I heard no more from you, now you have come up with a whole new one.

1. You said earlier, JM did not want to buy youngsters. Please prove this by comparing his buys with those of Ranieri and Grant. Also consider the fact that RA wanted to WIN trophies not to mold a team of teenagers. I await your eye-opening reply to this one.

2. Man Utd is the best in the world? Please can I have how you arrived at this. Please just scientific facts, stats, trophies etc something tangible abeg, No long grammar.

3. Barca was better than Chelsea? We've met them 3 times (counting both home and away during a season as once). Please do tell what team has come out on top. How do we know the better team? By wining or by game stats? Please can you show us this game stats. Once again just straight to the point, don't beat around the bush. Meanwhile has Barca ever won a Chelsea side that played 11 men? Consider the opposite scenario.

4. Please name the two defenders you can pay for Terry's wages that can replace him? NO long thing abeg. Just name them and show by statistics and by the wages they earn that they can do his job.

5. Did JM ask for a new contract or was he offered one? Yes or No please, then show your links to that also.

6. JM and Ranieri? Who has spent the most? Please consider our revenues during JM's era, Did you know our fanbase doubled in UK after we won our first EPL title?

7. Just to add to that . . . Did Grant hold RA ransom for a new contract too or was he offered?

Once again just answer the question and show your evidence, links, stats where applicable. NO long thing.

Somze, why do you have to be so block-headed. Now you want to enter nonsense argument. Half of your points don't make sense - the other hafl are too tedious - anyway, lets see -

(1.) I never talked about youngsters, I talked about skillers - what does Ranieri and Grant have to do with this argument. Ranieri did not buy any players and Grant has only bought two - so please tell me WHAT THE Bleep ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

(2.) Who is better? - pick one from the following list:

(a.) Chelsea
(b.) Arsenal
(c.) Liverpool
(d.) Barcelona
(e.) Real Madrid
(f.) Inter Milan

If you cannot pick one, then please stop this pedantic argument. Every sports writer I know or have read has acknowledged Man Utd are the best so I see no need to carry on this pedantic argument.

(3.) Forget this argument, I have my opinion and you have yours - they are better because they showed it. They won the Champions league whilst we lost like fowls at Liverpool.

(4.) Maybe you don't know the difference between factual speak and figurative speech. Anyway, since you are so pedantic, Vidic is on £40,000. Pick any other defender who is on £100,000 and there you have it.

(5.) When did you start supporting Chelsea? Jose was offered a new contract a year into his stay because he made a hell of a fuss after falling out with Roman. I am sure Nateevs will confirm this. I no get time to start looking for Newspaper articles from 3 years ago.

(6.) Why the mess are you still talking about Ranieri - did I ever mention his name? Why are you comparing Jose to those lightweights. Why not compare him to his mates?

(7.) If your job title changes, do you not get new contract? If you change from Senior Engineer to Managing Director, do you not get new contract? Anyway, why do you suppose that because I don't like Mourinho, that automatically means I like Grant or Ranieri. Stop associating me with those fools.

Mc Omo:
is Ibime a closet Manure fan

how can MANURE be the best team in the world

Tribalistic ranting. Open any newspaper and it is widely acknowledged.

No, I am not a Man Utd fan. They were the team I hated most in the 90's and early 2000's, now the team I hate most is Liverpool.

Akolawole:
1) What yardstick did you use to call United the best team?

(2.) Are we lucky to beat Barca 4-2?

3) Who are the workhorse?
 
(4.)Keep on saying anything you want on JM. Jm was the one that send signal to the transfer market that "why are Chelsea's price different from others?" As much as he want Micah richards and Daniel Alves but he stopped being interestested when the teams are being too greedy? If not for Chelsea's price, do youthink wenger will buy Anelka for that price?

(1.) My eyes - and anybody elses eyes who is not blind.

(2.) Yes, we were lucky to beat Barca - go and check the stats for that game. I have never been so scared in my life as during that match - and also the one when we lost to them in the second round. You forget to mention that we were chasing the game and if not for Terry's late goal, we would have lost. Even though we beat them, they were widely recognised as the best team in the World during that period. Chelsea were NEVER regarded as the best team in anybodys eyes.

(3.) Who are NOT the workhorses?

(4.) For your info, Roman pulled the plugs on those deals, not Mourinho. Mourinho nearly had a heart attack when Roman pulled the plug on those deals. Get your facts right and take off your Mourinho-tinted glasses.

^^^Trust me, for the amount of money he earns, we can pay TWO central defenders who are just as good.

Nateevs, I agree - I don't see the difference between Malouda and Sinclair at this point. I have told you before, Chelsea is a Mafia team full of overinflated egos. Any of them can be easily replaced except Maka, Cech and Carvalho.

nateevs:
I didn't know the deal with Farfan was done then. I know about Rajkovic and Alcides. That's great news. Do you see him starting with Chelsea in the summer. This guy makes SWP look like Golf player.

Farfan isn't legally ours - but it is a gentlemans agreement - just like Alex was never legally ours. They said he was on loan - but the fact is, we paid one pound for him as a transfer fee - so he was never legally ours - Roman fronted PSV the money to buy him - as he did with Farfan. To be honest, I don't rate Farfan that highly - better than Wright-Phillips, maybe - but Chelsea standard? Certainly not!

The fact is, we have to look at who we are competing with - If Man Utd are parading Ronaldo, Nani and the like, what hope do we have if we are parading Farfan?

If I was to pick a best eleven from Man Utd and Chelsea squad right now, the team would look like this:



                                                                          Anelka


                 Nani                                                                                                           Ronaldo

                                                                                         Lampard
                                              Anderson
                                                                       Makalele


                 Evra                                        x                             x                                   Essien


                                                                         Cech


Note: If you look at the team, ANY Chelsea player can easily be replaced by a United counterpart, but NO Man Utd player can be replaced by a Chelsea counterpart.

Note: Essien is only there by default as Neville is injured, Ivanovic is untested and all the others are shit. Anelka is there instead of Drogba because Ronaldo and Nani don't play that long-ball percentage shit. You can pick any two defenders from the four, it doesn't make a difference. Maka will be finished soon and can be easily replaced by Hargreaves. So how can any Chelsea fan look at that team and keep decieving himself that Chelsea is better than Man Utd. I would be interested to see what selection Chelsea fans would pick, especially Mr Akolawole.

^^^I have told you before, I'm not into all this football tribalism - I speak the truth when I see it - Man Utd are the best team in the world. Just like Barcelona were 2 years ago. Even Mourinho, in all his wisdom could not conquer that Barca team - even when he did, we were extremely lucky, to be honest. Abi, I lie?

This is your problem, you are too blind to see that Man Utd had overtaken Chelsea. For your info, I saw it a long time ago, even as far back as early 2006 - and it heightened my sense of dissatisfaction with Mourinho. You have to be able to recognise when the level of football has changed. Mourinho was still buying his workhorses and insisting on paying 25m a piece for Villa and Dani Alves - whilst Fergie was purchasing top talent. Let me tell you something, there is only so long you can motivate a workhorse before he starts feeling like a World Star - ask anybody now and they will tell you that half our team are overrated - and they are correct! If a workhorse does not stay motivated, he can't win anything - because his success is based on desire, not skill. You cannot motivate yourself infinitely. However, if a truly skillful player such as Ronaldo, Nani, Anderson etc is not motivated, he can still maintain a winning habit playing at his average level.

nateevs:
Does anyone know if we own Peruian starlet Jefferson Farfan? He was recommended in 2004 by the same agent that recommended Cech and Robben. I remember we bided for him and the plan was to loan him to PSV as he could not play in the premiership then for reasons of work permit. Did we actually sign him?

Co-incidentally he plays for PSV now. . . Farfan anyone?

Yes, we own Farfan, Alcides and Rajkovic and Miguel Costa abi Manuel Costa who all play for PSV.

Akolawole:
Our friend ibime always come to slap JM and JM people full here

Unlike you, I believe Management is a lot more than just winning trophies - managers have to take care of the financial side of things as well - Jose sacrificed long term gains for short term ones - and it came at a very high price. He is the type of manager who doesn't want to know how much the club is spending on players wages, transfer fess etc - he just doesn't care.

He even held Abramovic to ransom over a new blockbuster contract just one year after he arrived - not to talk of encouraging his players to milk Abramovic for all he's worth.

People talk about if Jose was here, we would do this and that. Well let me tell you - if Jose was here, MAN UTD WILL STILL WIN THE LEAGUE BECAUSE THEY ARE THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD!

Why? Because SAF buys true talent, Jose buys workhorses - hence my assessment that Jose sacrificed the long term future of the club for short term gains.

Just put it this way - If Jose was in charge of Leeds, they would have still gone into administration. If you give him the money, he will spend it - and he will spend it stupidly without even asking questions.

Mc Omo:
he plays only fairly well playing alongside Malouda . . .talk of 2 sh@t players complimenting one another

This is a very good observation - but I won't go as far as calling Abidal rubbish.

That is because their strength lies in playing one-two's. Malouda is the only winger I know who can't dribble and only gets past his man by playing one-two's.

As for war crime or not, I don't care - all I know is that Bush quadrupled aid to Africa or something like that - so he's alright by me.

You guys are missing the point here - A recent graduate got a job as COMMISIONER!

What about all the professional who have practiced in their industry for years? Are they supposed to take orders and dictates from this fresh grad. Can you see a recent grad telling an experienced doctor what kind of machines the state need to purchase to treat cancer? He has no experience. Naija don spoil finish.

I can die for my country - but my country is Ijaw, not Naija.

Answer to your question - HELL NO!

Water is not the kind of commodity you should leave to free market forces. Not at all!

bawomolo:
gani fawehinmi is the al sharpton of nigeria.

Abeg stop dissing Gani.

Gani is the John the Baptist of Naija - the lone voice shouting in the wilderness. Gani is the nation's conscience.

Did you know we have 52 scouts, including 8 in South America scouring the world for top talent - that is why we have been linked with some obscure names recently - because we are on a mission to unearth hidden talent. All the boys mentioned look good on youtube and are recommended by people I talk to. For me, this is a welcome change from the Mourinho years of always going for the obvious top stars and paying a King's ransom to get them. Frank Arnesen is now coming into his own. When Mourinho was around, he only scouted youth players cos he knew Mourinho would never accept any of his recommendations for the first-team squad. Things are starting to change at Chelsea - and I like the direction we are moving in. No longer will we be anybody's come-chop.

nateevs:
Another name has popped up . . it's 20 yrd old Croatian Nikola Kalinic. . have you heard about him?

I checked him out on youtube when the story broke last week - he looks good - but one for the future, not right now. He seemed to be playing in front of like 500 fans in every clip I saw so I wasnt sure about the standard of players he was up against. Anyway, you know how youtube is - it makes players look like stars even if they are average.

BTW, Did you know Avram Grant never played pro-football. He has been a coach from the age of 18.

Jesus, I can't believe Arsenal won the game.