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Logicboy03: I dislike the catholic church but I hate hypocrites even more.Lol... Thank you.... I wonder why you left the catholic church...... Why??..... If what I said to italo was wrong kindly refute it with the scriptures,and stop this childs play.... If you so love the RCC then go back to it and stop standing on the fence..... Yeye!!!!!!!! |
italo: @ Ijawkid,I was just attacking your answer to the OP...... The law on celibacy is trouble...... Refute it if you can with the scriptures.... |
italo: Matt 19:10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”And who gave you guys the right to lay down the precept that a priest should live a life of celibacy??..... Who??...... Jesus said there are those who"" choose"" to live as eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of God and not been forced to be eunuchs in order to serve as priests....... Even peter(who is the first pope according to you) was married and never was once a celibate........ Let me quote a scripture for you to debunk the whole foundation of the cathoilcs setting out the law on celibacy..... 1 timothy 4:1-3A 1. The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to ""MARRY"" and order them to abstain from certain foods ......... ______________________________ Let's see verse 3 from another translation... International Standard Version (©2008) They will try to stop people from"" marrying"" and from eating certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. ________________________ Celibacy is a requirement for any catholic man who yearns to serve as a priest.....that law is not scriptural.......the catholic church has forbidden many MEN who serve as priests from marrying,and that has yielded bad results......child molestation and homosexuality....... _____________________________ The requirements for MEN who were to take the lead in the church that was penned down by paul never had the law of ""celibacy"" as part of it... You can read 1 timothy chapter 3 to see those requirementS..... |
Ubenedictus: are u joking?Lol... Calloti dey craze o.... Too raw...... |
koastar: So your bible tells you Jesus bought the donkey with his money and owned it? And how did you know the donkey was the best in the whole of Jerusalem? Please stop comparing these pastors with Jesus. Jesus only borrowed the donkey for the triumphant entry. For your info, Jesus owned no property but went on doing good.No mind that person... Them wan force there pastors extravagant life style on Jesus who didn't even have a home of his own....... |
pastormustwacc: ^^^You did not read my post properly be that. Anyway, we are derailing the thread.I did read your post....I was just trying to clarify the part where many think those ""spirits"" in tartarus are souls of dead humans..... ____________________________ Accoring to 1 peter 3:18-20 Jesus did go to the spirits in ""prison"" after his ressurection...... ""AFTER HIS RESSURECTION""" |
pastormustwacc: And i shall cancel all that one with one single scriptureDid those verses say Jesus set free those spirits who were in prison??... Is that what the scriptures said??....... Those scriptures quoted shows they were kept in prison until the great day of judgement...... Jesus didn't release any spirit from Hell..... Abi your own bible tell you like that??.... |
pastormustwacc: Na wa o, i still need bible to tell us when he descended to hell. So the righteous souls have been suffering in hell all these years before jesus came to preach to them?Those spirits who were in prison that Jesus preached to were the ""angels"" who were disobedient during noahs day.... Those spirits were not the souls of righteous individuals....... Those spirits were spirits(angels).......... Let us remember that when a human dies,his or her spirit(breath of life ) returns to God and does not go somewhere else in a pit to live..... Try comparing 1 peter 3:18-20 with 2 peter 2:4 and also jude 6.... Jude 6.. New Living Translation (©2007) And I remind you of the angels who did not stay within the limits of authority God gave them but left the place where they belonged. God has kept them ""securely chained in prisons"" of darkness, waiting for the great day of judgment. _______________________________ 2 peter 2:4... Young's Literal Translation For if God messengers who sinned did not spare, but with ""chains"" of thick gloom, having cast them down to"" Tartarus"", did deliver them to judgment, having been reserved, Tarturus is a place meant for disobedient angels and not humans........... Only 8 souls survived the deluge,while the rest humans died and ceased to exist....... Thank you....... |
Ubenedictus: since u dont think there is anything past in rev, is d battle pursued satan from heaven a future event? Just yes or no,Satan been chased away from heaven definitly took place after Jesus' ascension to heaven...... So what John heard and penned down was a future event......... |
Boomark: He gave His commands and it was built to specification. Wait for His commands. Besides the image you are calling Jesus is not Jesus and not His specification. This make the image of whoever you are bowing to an idol.Many of them are even bowing down to robert powells carved image......... |
Ubenedictus: and yet d angels are simply my ministers, my servants, amen. If they know then the saints in heaven know.Talk true....I just showed you why the angels can be aware when a sinner repents...... They are powerful as well and many... I reiterate::::mary has no ability or was giving the responsibility to listen and convey the prayers of 1 billion catholics..... Ubenedictus: chain of woship? Wow, i gat so such chain, i worship God and him alone, as for prayers every xtian both on earth and in heaven are on d chain of prayers.Christians pray with each other ....I don't pray through any pastor....my mouth never paralyze neither am I dumb..... Christians are to pray through only Christ... That is why he is the mediator.....there is only one mediator,and not many mediators..... Ubenedictus: d last time i checked not all bowing is worship and joshua did d same b4 d ark and God didnt strike him dead.God didn't tell angel gabriel to tell mary that her image would be moulded and then bowed down to because she was to give birth to Jesus....angel gabriel never told mary that she would be a medium through which we can get to God...... The bible never put mary high on the pedestal you guys have put her...I'll repeat that over and over again... Ubenedictus: another arguement from silience, a logical fallacy, so because "peter died" isnt in ur bible does that mean peter didnt die?Your analogies are most times never coherent or in line with the discussion.. It is a must that all humans will die,but is it a must or a fact that images of great persons or faithful servants would be moulded and bowed to??.....if that is the case the image of abraham,isaac and all faithful partriaÇhs would have filled the temple back then.... Death is inevitable but idolatry can be shunned.... Got that?? The scriptures never mentions any christian using images of mary and the cross or rosary in worship because it never was practiced........ |
Ubenedictus: hahaha, God loves d image of a cherubim and hates that of christ.God gave the isrealites those specific commands for a reason....God is the almighty.... The ark of covenant had its use in the temple.....that temple is no more....Jesus' death ended it...... If God did not command that his sons image be carved and used ,why do it??.... That's my problem.....when it comes to worship,wait for Gods commands and not yours..... God who wants worship will always tell us how we should worship Him,and not how we wanna.... When we choose how we should worship God,that would be presumptuousness.... Neither Yahweh nor Jesus commanded you make the mouldings of the cross,mary,and Jesus and bow down to them or use them in worship.... Ubenedictus: hahaha, so buddha and d pope planned it abi? Hahaha.Yes na...you been no know??..... The pope hijacked the use of beads in worship from pagans .....it was planned and devoid of any scriptural backing...... |
Ubenedictus: so fellow christian>>JESUS>>GOD or paul>>JESUS>>GOD is ok but u have problem wit mary>JESUS>GOD abi? Hypocrisy!No make me call you mumu o...... Early christians prayed with each other,...they didn't direct prayers through a particular earthly individual.......only Jesus has the sole responsibility of conveying our prayers to GOD.... Paul and all early christians never prayed through any individual except Jesus....you guys are doing exactly the opposite with mary..... You guys pray through mary,hoping she will carry your prayers to God..... Ubenedictus: to God all are alive!!Yes they are alive in Gods memory..they in the literal sense become alive when they are ressurected..... That is why the word ""ressurection"" exists... Ubenedictus: stupid arguement, are u ok? Did anyone say it is a must that intercession must be thru mary? U are argueing against urself.Your creeds have made it a must for all catholics.... Can any catholic let a day pass without praying through mary and bowing before her image??.... |
Ubenedictus: what type of fallacy is it or have u forgotten that fallacies have names?I was only asking if you have discarded the notion that ""mary is the woman revelation 12:1 is talking about""..... Have you??... and I never down graded the answers of others....I was just chatting with you.... |
Joagbaje: Yes Jesus descended into hell. He preached to souls in hell. He set captives free in hell. Those who were held in hell against their wishes. Righteous men of oldWhich captives??........ So the deluge that destroyed the wicked during noahs was just a joke??.... Which spirits did Jesus preach to?? |
seriallink: What you guys have to understand is that, no one is an expert in breaking down prophecies, especially the ones in the book of Revelation. Just because one of the prophecies literally sounds like the birth of Christ, doesn't necessarily mean it is the birth of Christ!Serria I agree with you.... That male child certainly cannot be christ as far as that prophecy is concerned... Because Christ had already been born a long time ago......... Since the ""woman"" isn't a literal woman,definitly that ""male child"" isn't a literal male child.... @UBE..... Hope you are not still holding on to the fallacy that mary is the woman revelation 12:1 is talking about?? Eh?? |
Ubenedictus: why d long story, u have stated ur point, God likes some image and hate other, if u used a cherubim it is ok, if u used christ it is wrong.If you made carvings under the direct commands of Yahweh then it isn't idolatry....""YES"".... Wait for God to give the command...that is my point... For you to make images and carvings for worship out of your own assumption or originality is idolatry..... The bible has shown that...... Joshua and ,mose§ did not wake up One day Ànd make the ark of covenant and the bronze serpent respeÇtively,without Gods own direction or command.... Never!!!!!!!........ Ubenedictus: Abi another one dey wey u no talk finish?I don't have to find any where in the bible that says ""thou shall not use beads in worship""..... All I'll do is go through history books to show you how you guys hijacked that practice from juju worshippers....... It has no connection with past servants of the only true GOD..... |
Ubenedictus: Jesus said "he who lives and believes in me will never die".Jesus saÝing those words connotes that he'll ®essurect those who die..... ""Ressurection "" was the issue thÉre..... Paul asked all christians who were( alive) to pray for him.....he also put those same brothers in his prayers too........ For you to suggest that pauls request included the dead faithfuls to also pray for him is fallacious...... Besides marÝ must have been alive then too,why didn't he(paul) just go pray th®ough her.....?? |
Ubenedictus: m d angel arent omnipresent yet they know each time a sinner on earth repents.There are millions of angels in heaven..... Don't compare an angel(s) with mary...you must be sick to do that... Just one angel in the bible killed more than a hundred thousand assyrian soldiers,so I wonder why you should ask me how myriads Of angels can notice when a sinner repents... Think well o my brother... Angels are very much powerful and numerous to know what each human does,and who repents or not...... Ubenedictus: God thru christ JesusLol.....sorry to burst your buBbles,but mary Is doing zilÇh for you guys or for any other servant of God who is alive today.....mary has no role in the chain of worship...no scripture supports that....its just a false assumption by you guys...... For you to create this chain:::: mary»Jesus»God. , then there m ust be a problem..... Ubenedictus: d last time i checked no catholic was worshipping no womanThe last time I checked you bowed before her image and rendered words of devotion to her.......na because I never come use cane flog your yansh when you dey bow down to her image na him make abi??..... You guys have put mary high on a pedestal that is false........ Ubenedictus: it was not written so u cant claim to know. Arguement from silience, thats a logical fallacyIt wasn't written so you had to instigate it right??..... It was not written by the apostles because they never engaged in such disgusting acts..... |
Ubenedictus: d same way ur pastor doesnt break scripture wen he interceeds same way mary doesnt. In catholicism we dont blive d dead are anihilated we believe their spirit is alive Jesus said "he who lives and believes in me will never die". If d angel are aware of d repentance of a sinner on earth then so do d saints. And if fellow xtians on earth can interceed, i see no reason y fellow xtians in heaven cant.Jesus gave the older men in the church the responsibilty to praÝ with tho§e who are weak or sick spiritually........ I neve® heard that §cripture say ""older women"" or mention marÝ....... WhÉn you read the scriptures read the lines well.... BesidÉs those men were alive(not dead)to pray with there fellow christians.... And also take note..::::.....those early christiÀns never went abÓut praying through those older men when at there homes or where ever they could find themselves.......... MARY is dead and cannot interceed for 1 billion people......nobody gave mary that responsibility...... |
Ubenedictus: hahaha, s God likes some images and hate others |
Ubenedictus: hahaha, s God likes some images and hate othersKeep laughing and wallowing in idolatry... You know exactly what you are doing..... God gave the isrealites strict directions on how the ark of covenant should be constructed....it was built according to Gods own metrics and standards..... ______________________ All this was done so that the isrealites don't ""presumptuously"" make graven images or moÙldings that would result in idolatry.... ______________________ If you notice I have been using this word ""presumptuous""....... ............... This is why I wonder on whose commands or precepts do you have the images and mouldings or carvings of the cross,mary,the rosary etc in ya church....?? Is it Christ that gave the command??is it Yahweh??or the scriptures??....... Can't you guys for once wait for God to give commands on worship before your itchy and desperate hands act presumptuously just to satisfy your pagan quest?? ImagÍne you guys using beads to wo®ship and pray..... _________________ Who else did that but buddhists,hindus and pagans before it was hijacked by you guys...... _________________ You really think God will listen to prayers that were offered through prayer beads??..... Any isrealite who tried that in the past would have been killed......... |
Ubenedictus: ofcuz paul ask his fellow xtians to pray 4 him, abi no b so?Mary cannot pray for the 1 billion catholÍcs around the world....she is not omnipresent....don't you get it??.... Nobody gave her that ability....for y'all to assume mary can hear and convey prayers is a false claim without any scriptural backing...... And who is she conveying or praying to for you guys??that is my question..... To who??..... The last time I checked a woman(mary) was not in the chain of worship...... I dey tire for ona make I no talk lie....... No apostle,not even peter approached mary after Jesus' ascension....they had no business with her....... |
obadiah777: OR A HOT SLAPHehÉhehehe....... Him papa fit stop tÓ pay him school fees sef...... The papa go ask am ""abi you wan use me play??"" |
blogger1.0:Lol... Just make sure you don't receive a knock on your head if you do find a way out to tell him.... |
Most members live in one bedroom face me I face you apartment and trek........... Just met a woman here in delta state who boasted that she contributed to pastor AYO purchasing his new private Jet... And guess what??... The woman leaves in self contain.....and treks everyday to her petty business... I had to SMH!!!!!...... Then I realized how mumu-ish many nigerians are........ |
chukwudi44: Ol man please answer my questions.Did Joshua,moses and the isrealites commit idolatory? Did God give them permission to commit idolatory? Can God give one permission to sin?Nope....God gave moses, joshua. Specific Directives which he never gave to the catholics.......... And you know that........you guys have desperately and presumpteously made images and mouldings for worship...... That was Something the isrealites did back then when they made the golden calf that made Yahwehs anger descend on them....... Bowing down to marys image and praying through her is blatant idolatry.... |
chukwudi44: Did joshua and the people of isreal commit idolatory when they carved images of the winged creatures and bronze serpent? What the hell do you understand by worship? Please no double standards and hypocrisy hereThere chukwu goes again with joshua and the copper serpent.... When you presumpteously make carvings and images for worship you are practicing idolatry...... Who commanded you to make the mouldings of mary??who??..... And I guess you bowed down to that disgusting image numeours times today all in the name of worshipping God..... Oh I forgot.....you also counted your prayer beads today...... |
chukwudi44: Don't mind the hypocrite!!I am sure every one of them blabbing here have images of themselves or their loved ones in their homes.We are talking about worship here... If people bow down before the images or carvings of there parents both at home and @ church in other to get to GOD then that will be blatant idolatry.... And you know that is exactly what you guys do...... Bowing before a white womans image or moulding and praying through her,hoping she will convey your prayers to God... I wonder which god sef..... |
Catholics should have asked if we bow down to the images of our parents or have them carved in the church to bow down and pray through them.... Catholics trying so hard to defend idolatry is bewildering......... |
Ijebulogic: 1. No Electricity? - Get a 27 KVA GeneratorMumu na him wan kill nigerians... For many persons here on this forum to not see the wrong with AYO acquiring a jet has got me wondering if nigeria will ever get better... This is madness!!!!!! |
Logicboy03: Is that really a bad thing? At least, I wouldnt be hussling on yahoo like youLol..... Ànd who told you I hussle on Yahoo..... |
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