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advocate666: my wife doesn't know anything. She is a very happy woman and couldn't have asked more for a husband.

Lol....

You are one Hell of a yeye husband....

I pray she finds out about your immoral escapades....

plappville: @ijawkid: That was a good one, i think you are on the track, It is sure a symbol. But take a very close look at Joseph and His dream.

"And he "Joseph" dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?" Genesis 37:9,10

Verse 10 of Genesis plainly explains the symbols were Joseph's family: The sun was his father Jacob, the moon was his mother Rachel, and the 11 stars were his brothers "alias the sons of Jacob, tribes of Israel ".

If you take a look at the revelation symbol, and match it with the Genesis 37:9-10, you will see that you are truelly on the track. the woman has nothing to do with "MARY".

Revelation 12:1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.

Now that we know what the sun, moon, and 12 stars mean according to Joseph's dream, we can for sure know who the woman of revelation is.

The woman in Revelation is Israel. She wears the very early symbols given to Jacob and the tribes.

A correction is welcome.

Now that is how its done my dear...

Using scriptures to explain scriptures......

Shake my hands O jare....you too much....

Logicboy03: Why are you suggesting nonsense?


There are even christians who support gay rights even thought they are not gay. Use your brain. Or is Obama gay?

Obama isn't gay ,supports gay right, but obama would tell you that the practice is wrong .......obama won't wanna impose his opinion on the people of the united states......supporting gay rights does not mean one supports the ""act""...don't you get it??

Besides obama would support gay rights just to win votes...who wan loose election na??

Logicboy03: Seriously, stop calling me gay. What is wrong with you? Are you foolish? Is it my fault that you can not logically defend your position?


Foolish fool. After you will go and claim that you're a true christian after saying the same lies about me over and over again.

Lord Babz said it all; Your head is cavernous. An empty waste of space.

I only was suggesting that you could be one since there is nothing wrong with it...

abi??.....

Lord Babs: that's where you got it all wrong. I don't need to teach them to bcom gæys, since it is natural, they'll exhibit it freely and i'll even proudly join them in reveling in its naturalness. O.k?

Chei.......

SMH!!!!!....

Your mumuness knows no bounds....

Lord Babs: as your sûcking religion would some day.

No it won't....

I wonder what morals you'll teach your kids....

Nothing,!!!!!.....

Since you are a gay apologist,you could teach your kids on how to become gays..

Won't you like that??lol.....

Lord Babs: shataap! If I buy a dog with my money, and feel sèxually attracted to her, and consequently enter her, how does that restore your lost brain? Can't u just be logical for a second in your life?!

Lol.....

Your logic would put you in trouble someday...

Logicboy03: Two consenting women have sex together


Can animals give consent? Can 9 year old children give consent? NO!



You have failed to give a logical argument against gays.


If you can give a logical argument, I will be the biggest gay basher.

How else does a DOG sleep with a lady,if one way or the other the DOG didn't consent to engaging in the act??.......abi you think animals know nothing at all??



I'm only telling you this..because soon.you and logic boy in the nearest future would come up to defend those who engage in bestiality....

Because your sense of detecting what is right or wrong has been totally distorted....

If a man sleeping with a man isn't wrong in your eyes then you need serious help....

I won't be surprised if you are gay....

Lord Babs: says who?

Says the almighty..also nature.....

Lord Babs: sharaap there! Are u telling me John's morals is the same as Peter's morals and Matthew's morals is the same measure with Judas' morals...afterall they are all christ-dôgs! Did Gay Jesus give equal regard to all his dôgs? Or u want me to start citing examples to open your cavernous and vacuous brain?

There were all morally upright because they followed Christ....they all checked the paths they walked on with the example Jesus laid down......

And who told you Jesus was gay??

I think you wan yeye yourself now....

Logicboy03: Ijawkid.....you havent given me a logical reason why homosexualism is immoral....I gave you my list of pros and cons but all you could do was to falsely accuse me and my future children of being gay.

I didn't accuse you na hABA!!!..

I only encouraged you and your kids to be one...

Won't you like it??

Lord Babs: daft! It's disgusting, absurd, mad...are out of it. You haven't experienced it, so how can you say it's disgusting? I think you should know that those that practise it will be the legitimate ones to tell if disgusting or not. Moreso, what is absurd to mr. A can be normal to mr. B. As regards whether it's natural or not, i think you are only seeking mischief where it's not. Do I need to teach you that SEXUAL ATTRACTION is a natural law? So if a guy feels sexually attracted to a guy, he shouldn't exhibit it, since it doesn't conform with your own manufactured natural law? Just look at what religion has turned you into...eviscerating and compromising the entirety of your common sense...chei!

Why should one feel sexually attracted to a guy if not madness...

Sexual attractions should exist amongst members of the opposite sex and not same sex......

The moral depravity of this world has actually eaten your brain up.....

Soon you'll say bestiality is some kinda natural attraction....abi??

advocate666: Happily married with children.
Serial Adulterer.

Hahahahahahaha...

Does your wife know you're a serial adulterer and hasn't kicked you away??...

Or mayb she herself has also shattered the 10 commandments too....

italo: @ Ijawkid.

You haven't said anything.

Who is the woman?

The woman is ""Jerusalem above"" or ""heavenly Jerusalem""....

You don hear??

If you like dey call the woman Mary.....

mkmyers45: You question was st.upid in relation to my comment

Ok sir .......

Carry Go!!!!!!

Logicboy03: An atheist simply doesnt believe in god simple.

The scriptures are not clear on who Christ is (As evidenced by the numerous trinity debate threads), how can one define who a christian is? Who are you following?

The scripture is clear on who Christ is...only trouble makers and philosophers would wanna make simple and clear truths turn out to be an enigma...
Jesus himself said he is the messiah,the son of GOD....

A christian is one who follows Christ to get to the almighty(Yahweh)....

Logicboy03: Christians dont even know whether to pay tithes or not as a commandment from God.

Lol.....that's because those christians don't read from the scriptures diligently to understand truths...

Logicboy03: There is no true or false christian. You are a false christian to catholics with all your failed WatchTower prophecies while catholics are fake to you with their honouring of Mary.

Ofcus there are true christians...true christians are those who'll let the scriptures shape there thinking from time to time,and not remain stagnant holding on to traditions that are baseless and useless even when it is glaring that it is false.....

Logicboy03: Jesus committed a crime and went unpunished. (flogging people and destroying traders' properties)

Lol...oya come purnish Jesus na....you don purnish yourself finish??...

Logicboy03: Gay marriage


Pros
-More weddings, more money spent in the economy
-More eligible parents for adoption
-More diversity in society (EU countries accept it and they prosper)
-More divorce (bad) but more money spent in the economy on lawyers
-Gay parades/festivals- more money spent in the economy

Lol....

You useless walahi!!!....so because of this pros of yours you espouse the practice of homosexuality.......I guess you could bring up your kids in the ways of homosexuality and lesbianism,or maybe you could convert to one so that you can fit into your "PROS"

Rubbish!!!!!!

Logicboy03: Cons
-Bigoted christians and muslims like Ijawkid become irritated
-More divorce
-Gay parades


What do you think?

Lol.....yeye boy....

Lord Babs: o.k. I'll make it simple for you. Is morality measurable? That is, is it possible for, say, a 'true' xtian to exhibit more moral values than another 'true' xtian?

Your question doesn't make any sense....

A true christian is a true christian....

It is either one is a true christian or a false one.....

Lord Babs: lmao! His father's house? I thought his father was a carpenter...

Lol...

His heavenly Father...

Lord Babs: now, you'll make me go angry...we asked why is homosexûal bad, and you kept repeating that it is bad! Can you just tell me one singular, rational fault/bad in that wonderful act of nature.

Its bad because It is against nature and its disgusting...

It is absurd and mad!!!!!....

I guess you are gay by the way...:-)....

And please what is natural about homosexuality??.....

italo: What in God's name do you mean by "Yahweh's heavenly organization" and where did you find that phrase from, the Bible?

So "Yahweh's heavenly organization "cried out in pain" - (Rev 12:2)?
Yahweh's heavenly organization did not include God and his throne which "snatched up" the child when it was born by "Yahweh's heavenly organization" - (verse 5)?
"Yahweh's heavenly organization" fled into the wilderness.(Verse 6)?
Michael and his angels were not part of "Yahweh's heavenly organization" that fled, because they fought against the dragon in heaven. (Verse 7)?
When the dragon was hurled down to earth, he pursued "Yahweh's heavenly organization" (which by now was on earth) again? (Verse 13)?
"Yahweh's heavenly Kingdom" had to flee from to the wilderness again.(Verse 14)?

Is this what you are telling me?

Let's be brief...

The woman mentioned in revelation 12:1 who is in heaven definitly isn't a literal woman...rather she is a sign or symbol..revelation 1:1 tells us that...

What she symbolizes is the main wahala here...

Let's start connecting scriptures To find out and not rashly conclude on pagan stands....

In the inspired prophecies ,women at times represent organizations or nations ""married"" to outstanding personalities..

In the hebrew scriptures isreal was spoken of as a wife of Yahweh.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
"Come back, you rebellious people," declares
the LORD. "I'm your husband. I will take you,
one from every city and two from every
family, and bring you to Zion.
.(Jeremiah 3:14)...
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In the greek scriptures,the congregation of the annointed christians is spoken of as Christs bride..
New International Version (©1984)
One of the seven angels who had the seven
bowls full of the seven last plagues came and
said to me, "Come, I will show you the ""bride"",
the ""wife"" of the Lamb."
(Revelation 21:9)
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We also know about that symbolic woman ""BABYLON the great"" mentioned in the book of revelation...(Revelation 17:3-5)
Babylon the great isn't a literal woman but she represents a group of persons,nations or organizations...
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The woman john sees in revelation 12:1 is also married to someone,and she is about to give birth..and when she gave birth her child was caught away to God as verse 5 tells us...definitly that symbolic woman must be Gods wife,just as the physical nation of isreal(earthly Jerusalem) was in the past...

This woman gives birth to a son and also has other seeds as revelation 12:17 tells us..

Infact paul explains who this woman is..to cut it short let's read

Galatians 4:26

English Standard Version (©2001)
But the ""Jerusalem above"" is free, and she is our mother.....while Yahweh is there Father.....

Jerusalem above which is definitly not a literal woman is what gave birth to Gods kingdom with Jesus as its king designate and his co-rulers(the remaining of the womans seed).....


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For you guys to connect revelation 12:1 to mary is actually perplexing...

You might as well tell us when mary ever ran to a literal wilderness to spend 1260 literal days after giving birth to a Son......

If you read through the whole of that chapter you would see that that woman can never be a literal woman talk less of she being Mary......



And for you guys to term that woman as the ""queen of heaven"" ,a pagan term makes me SMH!!!!!......

If you didn't know, mary is part of and under that "Jerusalem above" and not she herself being the ""Jerusalem above""...

For you to think that that woman is Mary ,then we'll have to agree that mary gave birth to Jesus twice.....both on earth here and in heaven.......

Only your type would read this chapter,link it to the pagan ""queen of the heavens"" as you'll usually do,.....

Mary is no such queen...mary isn't a pagan goddess....

Thank you.......

preshuzpearl: So? Does he force his church members to give him expensive gifts?
Or Is he supposed to sleep under the bridge and eat garbage just cos he is a preacher and does God's work wholeheartedly?
Honestly how people think sometyms really baffle me

Lol.....

Please read 1 timothy 6....

It will help you....

if you can't see that a pastor using church money to acquire Jets is wrong then you need serious help.....

Jesus and the early apostles never lived such fraudulent lives....

Logicboy03: PES 2013 fan here

I"ll pass for pro evolution soccer...I'm a footy freak....

preshuzpearl: ^^ Dumb!
Pls tell me, wat d difference? These ministers of d gospel work just as hard as anyone. They help so many people in many ways. they put themselves through lots of sacrifice to fulfill what God has called them to do. do u know how many lives have been changed as a result of their ministrations?or d number of people who got deliverance,healing,encouragement? It baffles me how doctors in d world charge 100,000 for consultation and its okay, then God uses someone to perform a miracle and another person is getting angry because d individual shows his appreciation to God by offering a gift.

Besides How do u want to compare God's work with stupid music u or senseless movies where people just come to display and showcase bodies and fake accents.
There's clearly no basis for your claims!

Musicians work to make money,pastors are to do Gods work for free.......


Please kindly read 1 timothy 6:5-7

5 and constant friction between
people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed
of the truth and who think that godliness is a
means to"" financial gain"".
6 But godliness with contentment is great
gain. 7 For we brought nothing into the world,
and we can take nothing out of it.

The difference between that should exist between tuface and a pastor is that 2face makes good music for financial gain,while a true pastor who wants to follow Jesus should preach the gospel for free and not expecting financial gains.........

The apo§tles ¶erformed all kÍnds of miracles,still they had nothing nor amassed material things.....

Why is .the case of toÐays MOG's different??

Its simple:::::because they are peddlers of Gods word...

I for one think we should let the scriptures do the judging.....open scriptures to rebuke/judge an individual as the case may be......

musKeeto: lmao..

u and ur crazy threads..

u play fifa?
ps3?

The boy don craze finish.....

@logic boy....

Go get a fifa soocer so that I can deal with you......lol...

teeo: Paul and peter had different views about evangelism. Would u do well to remember Ananias and Sapphira in the bible when they brought money to the house of God.

And then what happened??

If you read that book of acts you would find out that the money accrued from the contributions of those christians were shared to the needy christians who had come from far and wide for the festival of pentecost......the apostles never used those monies to buy chariots and employ roman soldiers to protect them....they never used those contributions to live large while the remaining christians remained poor......

Infact the apostles had part time jobs ,that enabled them assist the poor amongst them......

Logicboy03: 1) Atheists are not the same. There are buddhists that are atheists, there are feminists, humanists, libertarians etc

2) You as a Jehovah's witness, are seen as a false christian by catholics and pentecostal christians.

3) The catholic bible is a more complete version of the bible withe extra books

4) Christians can not even agree on who Jesus is- whether Jesus is god or a man or a son of god.

5) Atheists dont hate god. We dont believe in any god. Dont be ignorant. Do you hate thor or allah?

I know there are different types of atheists but they are all the same.....there are no laws binding on them......or are there laws of athesim that should serve as a yard stick to measure who is really an atheist or one who professes to be one but not one.....??

For those who are servant of Yahweh and his son we live by standards....when an individual does not meet up with these standards that individual ends up being false.......

One can only prove I'm false when he or she uses the scriptures to expose my falsehood...

When you were a christian you knew that the mystery surrounding Jesus was created by men who adopted paganism and the philosophies of men.....
The scriptures clearly shows Jesus is the son and servant of God,not an equal with God..........
The scriptures exposes the falsehood of the trinity as well as other doctrines that were adopted from pagans.....

The scriptures is what would tell if one is a true Christian or a false one....

Logicboy03: Jesus would have been arrested today if he tried that nonsense he did. Jesus did not build the temple nor did he own the space that the traders were using. Why should he flog them? Was he an Oyedepo fan?

Lol......Jesus had long lived before that temple was built...he had every right to flog those charlatans outta the temple.....it was his Fathers house.....he drove them out,not kill them.....besides like I told you he did that to fulfill a prophecy...it wasn't like Jesus did that all the time....

Logicboy03: You are the one with a warped morality. Unlike you, I judge good and evil with logic and a scale of pros and cons.

Homosexuality is not immoral. Why would it be? Two adults choosing to love each other in their own way. how does it affect you? If you can give me a logical argument against it, then it remains what it is.

You judge good and evil with logic and a scale of pros and cons...right??

Now that is the more reason why your sense of morality would be warped....

I don't care if 2 adults choose to engage in homosexuality....

The ""act"" of men sleeping with men or women having s-ex with women is what is bad.....

It might not affect me ,but that doesn't stop the act from being BAD.....

Many consent
to smoking haze or marijuana...it might not be our business how they smoke it or where they smoke it,but that doesn't make the smoking of marijuana. A GOOd thing...does it??

From your answers I can sense that it is hard for you to tell if homo§exuality is good or bad.....


So let me ask you again...:::

From your scale of pros and cons is homosexuality BAD or GOOD??

teeo: Jesus christ, our High Priest was a carpenters son but did he continue as a carpenter.
Jesus went about healing the sick and preaching the word of God alone. Yet he ate the best, rode on the choicest of mules, wore the best linen. How did he get all this mate, people gave them to him and his disciples to propagate the gospel

And you forgot to add that Jesus had no home of is own.........

Jesus trekked if you didn't know......Jesus moved from place to place performing miracles on impromptu basis....he didn't settle under a magnificent building waiting for the poor and down trodden to come meet him....

And Jesus didn't ride on chariots just as the rich did back then....

Tell me you don't know that if the MOG's we have today existed in the times of Jesus they wouldn't have owned chariots and used roman soldiers as escorts......

preshuzpearl: I have observed that most people react positively to achievement and possession acquired by celebrities but start hating when its pastors that acquire these things.
For instance,
Tuface just bought two multimillion naira house. Everyone seems to be congratulating him.
On the other hand, sources say the men's fellowship of a church bought a chopper for their pastor's birthday. Someone now reminds us how low our national economy is and ow buying such is a 'waste of resources'. Its sad and irritating and I really would love to know why this is so

the rich gullible flocks of a church would buy there pastor a chopper who already drives a range rover,while they neglect the poor and needy in that same church....

Does that make any sense??

Tuface can buy a space shuttle if he wants to,he worked so hard for the cash......not MOG's......

teeo: Clap for yourself Ok. Now how do you know what is from God, how grounded are u about the truth from God. Pick ur Bible and read the epistles of paul and read that of peter. They both had different callings, would you say because Peter and Paul didnt agree on all issues that one of them wasnt actually sent of God?

I guess not, ur understanding about a mandate is based on what u have been taught and groomed in. I have read other theologians and their theories, God gives everyone a particular message for a particular set of people. Oyedepo has a mandate built upon faith, prosperity is a sub of that madate. I advise you look for the book "Pillars of destiny"

Lol......


And please can you tell me how different the calling of peter was from paul.....??



All we know is that all the apostles were never wealthy persons....never ever!!!!!.....

They all lived lives free from the love of money and the amassing of material possessions.....

Oyedepo and his colleauges are nothing like the early apostles of Christ......

cyrexx: Will you pls stop addressing atheists as haters of God. This is both wrong and insulting.

Should people call you hater of flying spaghetti monster because you dont believe in it? Or hater of Santa Claus because you dont believe in it? Or hater of Allah because you believe in Allah?

Many atheists, not all of them, are vocal against religions due to their humanitarian duty of exposing the falsity and dangerous dogma of such religions, not because they hate any imaginary God of any religion.

Pls get that straight and stop projecting that hatred of God on atheists again.

Peace

Ok my comrade cyrexx......

Boomark: Matthew 6:7-8
New King James Version (NKJV)

7 And when you pray, do not use
vain repetitions as the heathen do.
For they think that they will be
heard for their many words.
8 “Therefore do not be like them.
For your Father knows the things
you have need of before you ask
Him.

Thanks for bringing out this point...