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Poster remember that Gods view of time isn't commensurate with our's.....

If God for example decides to bring about d end in 6yrs time(which is 6000 yrs in d human point of view) what u gonna do??

We gotta wait until it does come....

But know this...::::::THE END MUST come

Logicbwoy: The funny part is that the woman accepts food from what she terms "the devil"

Who told u atheists are devilish??

D truth is God does use humans to carry out his purpose even tho they don't serve Him....

Logicbwoy:


See my life. My name has become synonymous with militant atheist. Kai, na me be dis?

U too find trouble...lol....

Logic boy make ur pikin no be like that small boy o if not him go be skeptic for everything..:-)

@my joe....it seems u knw about d witnesses a lot...that's cool....

On there stance on politics and wars I espouse them....

We all know what politics have turned professed christians in this satan ruled world into....
Ogboni men,free masons,what have u.....


Let's not decieve ourselves.....

SATAN rules d world,except 1 is not wanting to face reality.......

We see what christians in 9ja do just to be well grounded in politics....I won't wanna say what they do because we all know......

Obama is there sanctioning gay marraige and all that when he claims to be a christian.....



In one of olagbagbe's post u see he posted a topic ""reasons why obama isn't a christian""

And there was mayhem all over d post....



There are so many factors 1 has to consider when going into politics....

And when critically considered u'll see why @ d end of it all christianity and d worlds politics aint compatible......


This whole issue can't be over-emphasized....

if u knw d witnesses very well and some how do understand there stand on some notion ,and how it harmonizes with Jesus's teachings then u gotta support them.....

If every christian for me culd b like the witnesses I wonder if we'll ever hear of wars again or nationalism......

I mean let's face facts and leave this whose religion is better or had made mistakes in d past.....

We see how christians who had engaged in politics and war in d past and present has led to the conversion of many into atheism.........


If only professed christians wuld follow Jesus foot steps closely they wuldnt have brought so much opprobrium on God and his Son........

An organized religion that can say no to war by there actions or neither take sides in politics just as Jesus wuld do has got to be doing something right...

It takes courage to stand by and follow up such principles........

Thank u!!!!!!!!

Logicbwoy: So you just point to some people with the backing of your bible and say that they will get mad and less peaceful? How can you not see the s.tupidity in that?

Oboy time will elapse and tell who is right......


I pray we are all alife to see these changes happen.....

As for me d more they happen d more I know an end is near.....

Logicbwoy: This is what the bible and christianity does to you.

You know very little about international politics, economics and sociology. You just spout end of the world conspiracies mixed mwith revelation nonsense from the bible.

Please, before you claim that other countries will be less peaceful, sit down and think about your own country first.

As ur Ùsual pompous self..

When some1 makes a comment u act like u know it all and that d person who made d comment isn't exposed,is an ode,an olodo,is jejune... bla bla bla...

I speak from d bibles view point and as I know peace is a relative word and its tempÓrary as far as this satan ruled world is concerned.......

The countries in which atheism abounds can't be peaceful forever...that we both are 100 percent sure...

So its just a matter of time b4 they start getin mad......

My and our country is crazy not because of religion but because of corruption(love for money)...............

Corruption can make any human practice d wrong religion and use religion as a cloak to do all sorts have bad things.........

Don't think ya atheist. Nations are so infallible....

Like i tell u TIME will prove u wrong.....

And please update me on what d doctors have to say about his mental state.....what caused it...and let's find out if he was depressed(as u say) or just a silly kid wanting to practice what he watches on tv........

Or mayb he's been suffering from chronic mental illness unchecked for a long time........

Oh thanks for saying mad people are uÑconscious persons......

Cogent: What the fvck does a 'mad insane' person mean?
Ok.
Unconscious. :/



It is very possible that James Holmes suffered from depression.
There is something called manic depression.

Ijawkid, I don't think you know what depression means. . . . . .



Please next time read extensively on depression before you attempt to list the things depressed people can or cannot do.

Hmmmm..

As usual when they commit crimes they blame it on depression....

What's makin them depressed??

Infact who knows wether dat holmes of a nigga wasn't even depressed or mad after all.....

Mayb all he had been watchn on tv and playing on video games is what he just wanted actualize......

Too much enjoyment and comfortability is what mayb made him depressed.....

If it is depression my bro he going to answer to God.....

Like I said almost all of us are depressed in 1 way or the other bt still we keep our cool and life goes on......

Why wuld a phd holder be depressed??
Give me some reasons.........

Too much enjoyment made the man depressed and then he went into a crowd and shot people....

Cogent: Nice. Hope you enjoyed yourself. I also love solving some Stroud Mathematics in my free time.

Again. No Bible verse to back your speech up. Just say you're guessing man, don't make it seem like you're 100% sure of what you think would happen.
Those who are not considered clinically insane still suffer temporary fits of madness. Even depressed people are considered to have a mental illness. Are you saying people won't be punished for what wrong they did when they were depressed?

Is a depressed ¶erson a mentally deranged person??

Wuld u say d boy that carried out d killin @ the cinema was depressed??

Can a depressed person walk around naked on d road??(The nigerian scenario)

We knw what depression can cause....

A depressed person can still distinguish between what is right and wrong...



In this scenario we are talking about persons who have gone loko....

1 who isn't aware of his surronding....

1 who is mad in d head....

Depression is not equals to madness....

Not @ all bro..

Any.1 who says he's depressed and so he/she had to blow up people or shoot sporadically @ people needs to be locked up in jail for all eternity and be ready to face Gods wrath too...

Are we nt all depressed 1 way or the other??

Why aint we going about shooting people...

Cogent: Dude relax, I never said I took God to be irrational.
The only reference to your Bible you posted to back up your claim came from the Old Testament that was supposed to have passed away with the coming of Christ. It also fails to say anything about the fate of insane people which is what the topic is supposed to be about.

Ok let me ask u this lil question..

In what class wuld u place a mad insane person??


Conscious or unconscious??

Logicbwoy: Shut up. The secular countries are peaceful and have been for a number of years.

Oboy will they be pÉaceful forever??

They are only forming peÀce!!peace!! All in order to go to war....like I told u time will reveal...

Meanwhile I have always also told u that it is only false christians who would engage in wars but u'll still bÉ so stiff Ñecked not to listen to me...

Someone up there just told u why u shuldnt generalize all d time...

There are false chrÍstians and there are true discreet christians...

If Jesus neither supported wars or conflicts nor got involved in them why shuld his followers presumpteously do otherwise??

I hate wars and will never participate in aÑy...

Í imitate Jesu§ who even when vilified and reviled did not go on reviLing...

Who when slapped kept his cool...

Who said"" he that kills by d sword dies by it""

Who was totally neutral to wars ...

U shuld knw that only a few are really christians compared to d billions out there who profess to be christians...

Remember narrow is that road leading into eternal life....

Ptolomeus: I said seriously.
If a madman has won the sky at birth, then tell me what comes into the world? The Christian theory falls apart.
Ijawkid return, if not, is simply not interested in the thread, or because he realized that his defense has no answer.

Hey fellas I'm back..I didn't run away,..
I only had to go solve somÉ engineering maths...

Like I said and like toba has said...

A madman is unconscious of his actions,except the individual pretends to be mad to carry out wicked acts...

We'v got mad persons running all around d streets of 9ja naked and eating from the dustbin...

They knw nothing...

God will definitly not hold them accountable for there actions...

Its easy as that....

But if another individual will carry out those same atrocities under d influence of cocaine,marijuana and alcohol then that persÓn will pay for his or her sÍn...

PleÀse I'll like u to read ezekiel 18:21 $ 24...

Ptolomeus: You are saying that a madman will go to heaven if he kills hundreds of people?
After reading it, not whether to laugh or mourn ...
This comment has been pathetic ... It's worth a pastor!

1st of all d notion that all persons who are deemed fit for everlasting life will go to heaven is wrong...

2ndly if the man while committing that act wasn't sane why would a God of mercy and compassion not pardon his errors??

God will even forgive d sins of a sane person,who got involved in killings but repented later..rÉad
Ezekiel 18:21..
Why wuld he lower his attribute of mercy when it then comes to an insane person?

Do u guys take God to be an irrational being??

I have always told u that d future and time will make that ur graph change...

Let's pray we live on for d next 50yrs and let's see hw peaceful ur family(atheist) countries will continue to be peaceful....

As for me I hate wars and will never get involved in it...not for any reason...

Logicbwoy: Ode....how old are you?

I'm an old kid..

If he isn't sane then there's no way he going to suffer d same fate with those who are sane and still do what is bad.....

Logicbwoy: I gots no love for the pedophiles!

poor lil child...

Logicbwoy: Life is too damn short to be obeying God.

The guy is a murderer (Noah's flood) a virgin rapist (Mary), a possessive spirit (hardening the heart of Pharoah) an a jealous spirit. All proven by the bible

u be yeye boy...
i blame the catholic church for your ignorance.....lol

ur present day government are murderers for executing criminals when they themselves are criminals...
do u criticize ur govt when they execute criminals??u wanna question God for cleansing badness...

oboy na you and God go settle d issue...u'v become so hard hearted and no turning back....


but i'll tell u this,its not gonna be fun then....
abuse God ,make fun of Him it wont change facts.....

Logicbwoy: You mean the catholic church?

It seems u still got some love for the catholic church??lol...

Well don't u think the pope is like the over all OGA in d catholic church??

How many popes can d catholic church have??

Logicbwoy: God is the opium of the people.

Different people, different hallucinations;


-an invisible superman
-a being of true perfection
-an omnipotent force.


Keep hallucinating, theists!

you are an opium to yourself....


logic boy repent.....life is damn too short to be denying God....

u stand to loose everything....

OLAADEGBU: My response to BARRISTERS has addressed your objections and if 'am to add to that I will continue from where I stopped in Hebrews. Hebrews 1:7-8 goes like this:

"And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and eve; a sceptre of righteousness, is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

This should show you beyond any doubt that our Lord Jesus Christ is not angel Michael. You can see God the Father here talking to angels in verse 7 but in verse 8 He is talking to His Son. If you read with an open mind you will see that the angels are on one side and the Son on the other. So which group of the audience does Jesus Christ fall in?

The angels were obviously created beings created as spirits but the Son has been forever and if you not that this prophecy in Psalm 2:7 was given thousands of years before the Son actually became man. Jesus Christ is the Son of God by inheritance, by human generation and resurrection, while the angels are only sons of God by special creation.

from ur analogy it then means that there shuld bbe anoda angel that is as powerful as Jesus,entrusted with the job of defeating satan....right

angel micheal and his angels fought and defeated satan and his angels....

who else culd that angel be>>>


i know why it might be so hard for u guys to accept that Jesus might be micheal....

because of the trinity dogma...nothin more nothin less


but it mightsurprise u to knw that some trinitarians agree with the FACT that Jesus is micheal....

the errands micheal run and the power bestowed on micheal is exactly the same with that of JESUS...

who else was given the responsibility to crush satans head?? read genesis 3:15


even daniel calls Micheal the prince of isreal....

oboy abeg wvidence too borku to prove that Jesus is micheal....

but trinity dogma will never let u see it...

is it the ANGELattached to the micheal that is ur problem

for ur info Jesus was and is Yahwehs messenger..(Yahwehs slave/servant) Isaiah 53;10 and 12...
alsoo read acts 3:13

Goshen360: Too often, a man makes a mistake in an organized church setting and he's being chastised in one way or the other. The next thing is he is too proud to be humiliated and be chastised, he suddenly receive a "divine calling" into the MINISTRY. From ministry, he gathers congregation and start a church organization leading to denomination whereby division, malice and competition for fame strives.

Looking into the context of ministry, it is glaring that ministry had been turned into organized church setting like a one man organization contrary to bible teachings. Today's organized church claims to be a church but in the light of the word of God, they actually operate ministry, operating a one man show or one man business empire for the scripture teaches that an organized church must have pastor(s), elders, deacons, teachers etc and all of these ministry gifts must be functioning in their ministry within an organized church. Today's church are full of men who claim to have ministry and have converted such ministries into organized churches, hence making the church of God their personal properties without the true biblical structure of a true organized church as stated in the bible and running the organization of the church as a one man show.

Have you considered the difference between a ministry, a biblical organized church and denominations? What do you think? Only Christian/Believers talk, Atheists are not welcome.

u got it correct bro......these days churches are now like an individuals property....
thats some of these so called clerics can buy jets and cruise round d world with it...becvause its obvious that it is nw therepersonal business......

i prefer an organization that deals more with bodies of elders,deacons etc......
where there aint no general overseer,like an oga.....

Logicbwoy: Which masters? Science? lol.


Am I too much for you?


Even the catholic church accepts evolution. Other christian oragnizations are following suit.


Howver, black christians remain the laggard and slow-pokes

The catholic church accepts everything..paganism and everything....

Mayb u culd rejoin them since they now accept d evolution scam...

Logicbwoy: Missing link? Dont you guys ever read? Missing link is an outdated term for deist thinking on evolution.

Did you ignore my debunking quote;

Keep running away..

As ur masters tell u,u follow..

Keep going round in circles

U guys have given urself d task to prove humans came by chance..the universe too..

We'll just sit back and wait to debunk u.

Logicbwoy: What quote is that? How do you like my debunking on your wrong assumptions on the picture?

Oboy there's no debunking what not...

That's so lame.....

So looking @ that pix u so 100percent agree that we did evolve from those chimpanzes...
SMH!!!!!

Its ur kind that engages in bestiality...lol...sorry to say that...

If I culd remember some1 here asked about d missing links...

Can u show me where they is??

Always ur gods(evolutionist) run around saying they'v found d missing link all just media publicity...

But d sad part is fellow evolutionist debunk those findings

Logicbwoy: lol....not one factual statement in that comment.

IjawKid senses that he is on the illogical side and is lashing out. Dont be arrogant, just accept that you're not making any sense.

U guys are making no sense either....

I put up a quote from an evolutionist and all u guys did was avoid it....

U guys too have shut all doors to d fact that there is a creator...

That's why whatever supports ur belief for the ""NO GOD"" theory u accept it...

Even if scientists tell u guys that we came by chance u gulp it...

The poster has asked whether anybody ever witnesses d big slam but no body has given him an answer....

Please logicboy and y'all atheist what does that pix say??

Does it support d fact that we are cousins to apes or that we evolved from apes??

Are apes our ancestors or we share common ancestors.??

That pix up there is a mad pix...

fellis: He does not see what Area_boy is trying to tell him as education. This is somebody that has been taught since birth and is fully convinced that humans were spontaneously created and didn't evolve.
You DO need more than a simple biology class to get through to him.

Monkey how u dey??

All area boy did was go to a site,copy and paste it up here...

He's copying from d same scientists that have been debunked many @ times....

From the chain of evolution it is shown how man evolved from apes to man..

But u guys are here telling me again that we share common ancestors...
I tink I have to put up that pix that explains ur claim....
I was showm that pix when I was younger learning integrated science and biology....

Guess ur oga's found out that it was all dumb......

Na ona sabi!!!!!!!

Logicbwoy: Right now, my cousin has cow bones growing in him. He needed implants but has a reduced jawbone. The doctor gave him powdery cow bones that will fill in his jawbone. We are wuite related to many animals, especially mammals.


You cant believe that we are from common ancestors with apes but much of the medicine you use are first tested on monkeys and mice.

Your ignorance is astounding

Ur a monkey,baboon and an ape combined......

From now on I'll start calling u a monkey....
Because that's what u are as I can see....

So because drugs produced are 1st tested on animals so that makes it a reason for us to be cousins to apes .....

Its u that has got some screws loosed in ya monkey brain......

Keep ur disgusting theory to urselves.......
And die with it just like darwin did...

When d end comes we'll see whose on d loosing side....

Area_boy: ok. lets do it this way. I'll take my time to attend to every point u raised

1) So which or what is dat common ancestor??
ANS: I did point out I haven't got the name off the top of my head. Not in the mood to research now and as soon as i do I will modify this post

2) And how did that our fore-father start??
ANS: the beginning is a tricky question as evolution is continuous from the lowest life forms to very complex beings like us over billions of years. So yea. they did have their own ancestor and that tree will be a long one

3) Was it created or it also has its ancestors too??
ANS: stop using that word, religion has put your mindset in the wrong start to understand evolution. See ANS 2 above

4) Evolution has made u agree that we and apes are cousins....SMH!!!
Response: it is not a thing to agree or disagree. if you share the same grand parents with someone what do you call them? a cousin. That's the line of reason behind that claim. Nothing to do with demeaning anyone because everyone white, black, brown, blue, pink still came from that ancestor

5)If oyibo man now call u monkey u go vex.....
Response: Racism is a complex nature of human behaviour. we only learning to suppress it as globalization continues. The reason they call a black person monkey is very different from what evolution is saying. I'm sure you can read about slavery and how they colonials viewed other tribes (not just Africans)

6)Balotteli was thrown a banana during this past euro 2012 competition and he went mad @ d fans.....
RESPONSE: Mario behaves like he is out of control sometimes. Love him or hate him he is only African by skin colour and that's it. Italian culture is very will imbibed in him. If a few local fans that have no exposure to the real world decided to do something stupid like that, then Mario has the right to be furious. again refer for No.5

7) Whenever its time for any race to be called monkeys,we d blacks are d victims..
RESPONSE: That isn't entirely true. Some tribes inside Borneo used to be called all sorts of names even one similar to Orangutan. If this is bothering you so much, why take it out on a fact that is Evolution? True, racism and science can be related in a way but that is under a totally different context than you are putting up

8 ) But d white people who founded d evolution theory wuld never call themselves that....
RESPONSE : Wrong! Read "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins

9) E dey vex me when black man believe in evolution............
RESPONSE: That anger has a false basis. A pointless anger that wont do you any good, neither do the Africans any good to progress. You believe planes can fly, man can go into orbit, cars can hit 400kmph, doctors can cure malaria, television can transmit signal, your cell phone can help you talk at distances. All these are as a result of science at its best, researching , testing, modifying, testing, finalising and all that. There is something called the scientific method. All the things I have mentioned have gone through it and so has EVOLUTION. If you dont want to believe it or atleast read more about it with an open mind then be my guest


9) Because na we d oyibo people go call ape....
RESPONSE: not sure why this is pissing you off so much. i'm sure you've banged a white girl before lol. did you think about this ape thing when u were on it?

10) Don't u get it??
ANS: Funny enough, I do. But you have it muddled up so much mate. Sorry

11) Its very demeaning and absurd...
ANS: Yes! so is racism as a whole, so is discrimination, so is politics, so is pastors exploiting members, so is an Igbo man looking down on a Hausa, or Yoruba looking down on Igbo, or Hausa looking down on Yoruba, or in any other you want to rearrange those. So many things in the world we live in ain't right. focus on what you can do yourself to make a difference


12) Why shuld we relegate our prestige to this level??
ANS: People cried Heresy and said similar things to that when Galileo Galilei Proposed that the earth revolves around the sun and not the other way around. The catholic church put him under house arrest for the rest of his life and he died a miserable old man. It has nothing to do with putting our prestige in the bin. but rather our pride in the bin to realise that it may not be exactly how we thought it should be

13) To d level of lower animals that are under our dominion...
FUNNY RESPONSE: put you 1v1 in a cage with a chimpanzee and we'll know who can dominate who LOL
Serious response: It has nothing to do with putting anyone at any lower level. Remember the american civil war? The southerners never agreed to let slaves be free cos it was like them stooping low to a level of these lower human beings (that is Africans). "HOW CAN WE LIVE SIDE BY SIDE WITH THEM?" 4years and thousands of young Americans killed, the north won and the emancipation proclamation followed. Even your bible teaches against pride. Humble yourself so you may learn more.



if you need more clarity on any one in particular. Hola and I'm at your service

My bro its all crazy bro.......

Ape is not my cousin........

Dat part of evolution that says we and apes have common ancestors is what drives me nuts....

I hate that part like I hate sh**t!!!!!

.....

Why wuld or shuld I be a cousin to a gorilla,ape,chimpanze or whatever u call it....

Science altho good,has turned intelligent persons into somethin else...
All in an effort to kick d idea out d door that there is a God....

Like I said u guys are on ur own......

Soon mayb evolutionists will discover we are cousins to fishes and snakes and it will be belived ......

Kay 17: Don't discount the numerous Gods and religions.

U guys refute every possibility that there is a creator....

Its nt gonna sound funny when @ d end of it all there really is......

That's just my lil advice to y'all.....

theists have nothing to loose even if @ d end of this whole debate there isn't a God...

But like I said earlier an atheist will loose everything if he finds out @ d end that there is A God up there....

Let the day u find out about God not be on the day of his anger.....

That's my loving advice....

I will say this that atheists are the ones who'll loose big time....
Why??

If @ d end of the day after all the rantings""THERE IS NO GOD"" ,and there is a GOD, what then??destruction follows...u guys wuld regret big time

Atheists will always be @ d loosing end...

If I as a theist believe there is a GOD and @ d end of the day there is no God(just giving an example,because ofcus I believe there is God over all d earth),then I don't stand to loose anything...life continues...

But for u atheists if @ d end of it all a God really does exist na casala go burst for ona head o......

Because d bible as Gods word,Gods creative works has revealed enough that there is a creator...but u guys refute it...

U guys are strictly on ur own.....