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benalvino: the said only begotten means created in all the context... I don explain tire. you keep getting same question no matter how many times you answer it... take a look at my original post and tell me if he has addressed anything

Lol........explain image of GOD make we rest....since begotten never do.......

I have addresed your post.......

benalvino: they insert other there because of proverbs 8:22... till today you haven't told me who prudence is that wisdom dwells with... you have told me why she(wisdom) cry out? etc... if other is not in the Greek why will they insert it? in john 1:1 they rendered the WORD to be a god... when originally it is suppose to be GOD... lets assume God created Jesus then Jesus created him self... that is what you want? cause the original post made it clear but you are bringing firstfruit that is unrelated and trying to make rev 3:14 link... I want you to write a post comprehensive one here linking rev 3:14, Proverbs Colossians, John 1:1 and Genesis let me see.

And he is worried about who prudence is......lol.......ruminate on proverbs 8:22-30 and let's see if you're sincere or not......

Please didn't benimoore quote scriptures to show who that wisdom is??.......didn't he??........why didn't you dispute it??.....wisdom is crying out to trinitarians to stop equating Jesus with his GOD and Father.......



Why u dey do like this??........

I don't need to write a post the info's here are enough.......

And please quickly tell me why Jesus is the image of GOD just like you and me.......

You dodged my reply.....

Answer........

benalvino: image of the invisible God... why because he(Jesus) was on earth with us all.

Please when paul penned down colossians 1:15 where was Jesus??....in heaven or on earth...I believe we can say Jesus been the firstborn of all creation was as regards to his earthly life..abi??....

You are on slippery ground my brother.....clean it....

benalvino: what kind of question is this?
why don't you right a comprehensive post linking rev 3:14, colossians 1:15-18 and 1 corinthians 8:6

Answer the question

Since you are disagrreing with scriptural definitions to escape Jesus having a beginning...can we apply these titles to God the Father??.....

benalvino: again what kind of Question is this?
firstfruit now?

Firstfruit means firstborn......abi you never notice am??....

benalvino: am happy its your final post... but I see you cant accept clear truth. All creatures all things was created through him(word of God) yet you claim he create everything...

Through him.......what does through him mean??,,........please read proverbs again and cling to truths benalvino......

benalvino: the thing you should do is find out why new world translation translate the verse like this:
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all
[other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no
matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been
created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things
were made to exist,
New World Translation of watchtower

The other is there because Jesus is the beginning of Gods creation and so was created but the first of Gods creative work.....read proverbs 8:22-24 your nightmare and stop this disingenuity......scriptures have been opened to clear these facts......

benalvino: since they say he is created they know that makes him a thing so they insert OTHER to support their believe... insincere!!

Without the other I have opened scripture to prove he was created........your problem is you're arguing with the NWT in view and so can't even see the truth in front of you........

I have never for once opened the NWT here on nairaland.......

Please go back and correct your definition of Jesus being the image of God...because its absolutely wrong......

Oya go adjust your thoughts.....

ice234: John answered this issue a long time ago..... In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God... Period.
Can first born still be in the beginning?
Jesus wasn't created but was begotten....
He is co-equal with God the father and God the holy spirit. Three persons in One God, yet not three Gods but one God....

....please explain what begotten means......

Read proverbs 8:22-24 and really see what were talking about..... ........

No long thing...!!!!!!......

benalvino: I am shocked.
"and without Him was not anything made that was made"
nothing was made... again you are saying he created him self

Smh!!!!!!!!...


Please answer the questions I asked...your problem is you still cant agree that Yahweh is the oga who has no beginning and from whom all persons came from(Jesus included).......

I asked.....

1..Can we call Yahweh the image of God as Jesus is called??...

2..Can we say Yahweh is the beginning of Gods creation??.....

3..Can we say Yahweh the Father is the firstfruit/firstborn of all creation??


Your answers to this question would tell if you want the truth or not.......

What you read in john 1 is explained further in 1 corinthians 8:6, colossians,in revelation 3:14 and finally in proverbs......

This is my final comment on this.......

I would say you go back and take a second glance at benimoores post on the other thread,digest it and fling the trinity in the thrash can......

It is obvious you are not even agreeing with Jesus being the beginning of,firstfruit of Gods creative works............

Keep fighting with this.......

benalvino: not even close!! see what you failed to answer... How did Jesus create him self?
and what about other God's firstborn.
Jesus is part of his creation then there is error in the whole bible...
read Colossians again then read Genesis then read John 1:1 you will see Jesus is before every creature.

Jesus did not create himself...he was created by Yahweh........

Other firstborns are firstborns on the level or plain they are......Jesus on the other hand is the firstborn of all creation....the firstfruit of all or the creation of GOD........

Colossians,john and proverbs have been corroborated to show the truth...you are the one fighting with it........

Its up to you....

I asked you a question u never answered.......

How come do you think Jesus is the image of GOD??........can we say the Father is the firstborn of all creation or the beginning of the creation by God??........

Answer these questions and stop this fronting of one who can't see the truth right in front of him......

Bidam: I couldn't have said it better. you have actually covered every angle. I guess ijawkid is busy researching for an answer. He has not been able to even give me a single proof as to why we should worship Christ since God alone deserves our worship.lol

The last time I checked na for your thread I been get your time.......

I don't need to do any research for a stubborn person like you.......

benalvino: I don't think he can explain anything concerning this dilemma that wont result to Jesus creating him self.
I like to see frosbel try to make something out as well.

What dilemma??,,,na you wey dey inside dilemma and not the scriptural explanations you've been given.........

You go back to the scriptures and read what firstfruit means and satisfy yourself with what ever result you get.......

I have explained what it means to be the beginning of someones work you dey hear they ask me wether God get more than one firstborn.......

benalvino: So Jesus was born 2 times?
God have more than 3 firstborn at the same time?
or Jesus create him self ad you say firstborn meaning is constant.
this dilemma is not a easyone you will need a comprehensive explanation

What don't u understand is what my problem is.........

Firstborn means Jesus is part of Gods creation but the first of it.....

The examples I gave projects the meaning of firstborn and beginning of........

U don't need frosbel on this....

The answers are right in front of you......

Bidam: since you have not been able to give me a single explanation as to why we should worship Christ then remain silent as regarding the deity of Christ cos you don't even know what you are talking about to start with.

The scripture is clear only God is to be worshipped Ex.34:14"For thou shall worship no other God for the Lord (Jehovah), whose name is jealous, is a jealous God." "O’ come, let us worship and bow down, let us kneel before the LORD our maker."Ps.95:6.

The Greek word proskeneo (worship) is used 22 times in the Bible showing that God the Father is to be worshipped.

In Psalm 2:12 it says, "Kiss the Son lest he be angry with you." The word kiss is a term for worship. . (chashaq (khaw-shak'); a primitive root; to cling, i.e. join, (figuratively) to love, delight in;... Strongs #2836) This word for worship in Greek is proskeneo the same word used for worship for Jehovah God and for false Gods. One has to be consistent in the usage of the word, you can’t pick and choose when to or not to apply it ijawkid .

The Bible teaches that Jesus was not only worshipped but also called God by Thomas in Jn.20:28 "My Lord my God".(Gr. The Lord of me the God of me) Instead of being rebuked for this statement which would be blasphemy if false, he is commended and blessed, something no true prophet would do unless it was correct. We find the wise men worshipped Jesus as a child. Mt.2:11.The leper worshipped Jesus Mt.8. The ruler bowed and worshipped Mt.9:18 .The believer who was blind worshipped him Jn.9:38. The women worshipped him Mt. 15:25, Mary Magdalene worshipped him Mt.28:9, the disciples worshipped him Mt.28:17. This word for worship in Greek is proskeneo the same word used for worship for Jehovah God and for worship of false Gods. It is rendered 16 times to Jesus as a beneficent superior; at least 24 times to God or to Jesus as God. "The root idea of bodily prostration is much less prominent than in the Old Testament. It is always translated "worship." (International Standard Bible Encylopaedia) Mt. 4:10 "When Jesus said to Satan `You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.' He certainly wasn’t telling him to do reverence only. One has to be consistent in the usage of the word, you can’t pick and choose when to or not to apply it. Jesus is either a false God receiving undue worship or that all the creatures in heaven are not worshipping Jesus. Which means, they are also not worshipping Jehovah God, because the same word is applied to both. So try debunking all the scriptures i quoted in bold or forever keep silent in this forum as regard Christ divinity.

You sure say your situation get hope??....

Now may I ask u.......are u consistent when you use the word worship??.....

Its like u want me to quote scriptures where the greek word which worship was coined from was used for earthly kings,rulers and masters.....e be like you want make I expose your ignorance this evening.......

Like I said earlier you seem not to be learning........

So now u are telling me all the lepers literally worshipped Jesus even when they knew he wasn't Yahweh.....you think the lepers were an idolater like you who worships a triune God??...........

Those people simply bowed down or prostrated as a sign of respect for the messiah......

Make you no dey show case ya mumu this evening o...............

You want make I open scriptures wey them use proskeneo for other kings??.....

You ready??.......

Until you agree that only Yahweh is the true God you would forever be confused until Jesus meets up with you and your trinity delusion when d end comes........

alexleo: My simple believe is that God is the father, Jesus is the son of God, the Holy spirit is the spirit of God and they all work in unity as one. I don't even understand the disagreement and argument here about this. There is nothing confusing here. Since the word trinity is not in the bible then let's not make it a point of argument pls.

The bolded is why Yahweh the Father would bless you.............

musKeeto: LOL.. i think okey's an abbreviation of Okechukwu.. then xyz...

not difficult at all..

Xyz reminds of a mortal combat combo configuration.......

Logicboy03: Okeyzksz....You are sounding insane.

Even your username is insane, I cant spell it without looking at your username 3 times while typing.


okyeyskz
okeyksz

I want peeps to try it....type this guyz usernae without looking at the spelling more than once (one quick glance)

.......

benalvino: you see how created and birth argument start? he is talking about humans... he says to give birth you got to create!!! now am saying if that is the case create a child with 7 hand. because you as the creator you have to decide what features to give your creation something like 8 eyes 6 legs 3 brain etc. you get my point?

The sense of firstborn is what is been projected.....

Irrespective of what the scenario is......

And also the beginning of......

The scriptures has projected the meaning perfectly.......

Why don't we stick to it.....??.....

I never said to give birth one has to create.......humans pro-create as set by GOD.....

I said in but in Gods case he creates.......

And the meaning of firstborn and beginning of applies perfectly.....

Did you see how wisdom which was the beginning of Gods creation was created,brought forth,born(like the way the earth was born),produced??.......

Perfecto!!!!!!!.........

benalvino: you see how the meaning has change? wasn't it suppose to mean another birth or creation? that is the whole point of this anywhere you go the only outcome will be you contradicting your self. this is one example.

You don't get it.........

Firstborn drives home the point that the subject under consideration is not exempted from a group,rather it shows that subject is part of the group but the first of it.......

Be it

1.Death
2..Creation
3..Human pro-creation(birth)
4..Animal reproduction.
5..Plants
6.Harvest


Etc.........

You have to grasp the meaning of it all....

The meaning doesn't change....circumstances can change like I have listed up there but the meaning of firstborn remains constant......

benalvino: lol una go kill me for Nigerian slang... which one is shekinize and kokoism again... I blame Nigerian music hahahaha

No mind itsfact....na too much azonto and timaya dey cause am....

benalvino: by my original post and your point of view can we all reach an agreement that God created david and Israel save time? I mean they are all is firstborn... if that is the case who is the firstborn of the firstborn? or how many firstborn do we have? see the contradiction? ok lets put it this way, Jesus was created or made. see him his self did everything that was made every creation can we kindly conclude he created him self?

finally if he was the firstborn firstcreated, does it mean he was created twice since he is the firstborn from the dead? you see all the dilemma that are coming out? either way you go you end up contradicting your self.

ps when I say JW I mean watchtower if they bring out a bible that insert words that are not there that is insincere and why do they do it is what you should be thinking of. I know you as a sincere guy but we how know how religion is.

You seem not to really understand it all benalvino......

When Jesus is called firstborn from the dead it simply means he is the first fruit of those whom God ressurected to heavenly life...once again firstborn is well defined......


1 corinthians 15:20

20 But Christ has indeed been raised from
the dead, the firstfruits of those who have
fallen asleep.

Now question...
1...Is Christ not part of the family of those who died but the first to be ressurected??

2...is he firstborn from the dead by appointment or just pre-eminence or did Christ not experience death and ressurection and so among the group of those who had died but the first??.....

The definition of firstborn or firstfruit is so damn clear........

That is why boomark gave that astounding comment on colossians 1:15-20.......

Jesus is even the first of those who are image of GOD.........

benalvino: we are still saying same thing... it also mean reproduce which fits into the context. if it means create as you say am asking you to create a baby or kid with 7 hand that's all.

Na God here we dey talk about........

CREATE na him be God work........

Abi u tie God hand??.....

benalvino: earlier I told you procreate means reproduce and your definition states same thing... you trying to make it sound like the father of the baby is a creator he creates his children when the verse you quote is talking about reproductive power... go into the world and multiply man and women mate the product is a baby.

dogs fly fish birds do it. how is it special or close to how God creates us? am saying if your firend Bernimoore says the father creates or is the creator of the child to support Colossians then make that father create the child from dust give him wings to fly.

how am I dodging anything? the example you give no change my argument and if you define procreation as reproduce am ok with it.

there are thousands of post here and I have posted over 200 am just tired going back to explain stuffs I have done with lengthy post over and over again all in the name of someone just come and try to draw me back

Simple analogies has become so hard........

And the definition of pro-creation still means to create....it goes both ways........

The Father of the baby is the sole owner of the baby...abi you no dey read bible again??.......

Cheiii.........

Why you think say na males God dey put for front since??........


its like you have taken Gods power away to create............

Why is it hard for you to agree Jesus was brought forth,created,formed,produced,??...why...even when scripture don tell you tire......

Itsfacts: oboy you have shikenize everything with kokoism i want to see how this can be replied from them. good job Dude.
which church i wan go for the benin today?

It has been replied aeons ago.......

Benalvino has even been trying as for you you have been a disgrace and not a bible student.............

benalvino: not really watchtower watchtower or what ever... am just showing you the fact you should clap for me not persecute me... now you have left firstborn which is the discussion at hand and bringing beginning of creation which is not why I wrote this... for now could we stand inline with the topic?

I never a proud person am only pointing out the truth and the motive behind the insertion of other in the bible so that it changes the meaning to firstborn. If anything am the one being sincere here because I told you to rebuttal but you didn't all you did was condemn me for putting out such post.

I see how things are beginning to look like you are radicalize, one mention of watchtower if its not good you persecute that is never the case bro your religion is what you believe in you to condemn people for saying their point of view. trying to say am proud because I am explaining something to you doesn't count.

its not about who made him the firstborn its about firstborn doesn't mean first created. that's the whole point. I don't see how Jesus could be God's firstborn and some other people including Egypt at the same time, it just doesn't make sense no matter how you look at it. if Jesus was firstborn as in first created are you telling me he was created 2 times?

I don't care how you address the father him and Jesus are coeternal the are before all things. the author of the bible focused on Jesus.

Israel and david are not the beginning, instead david was preeminent(firstborn) so is Israel. you should be the one answering that question

its not about JWs... its about the truth and you see JW there because that is what they believe and teach. aside thank you guys I didn't maligning or do anything but was point out the insincerity done to that verse to support their doctrines. when you see Catholics or Trinitarians even RCCG do something barbaric don't you say something concerning them? have you never told me that what I believe is pagan etc? I never got bitter but I openly accept your point of view and told you why I believe something to be different.

am not maligning anything just explaining and this is a debate I wanted you to rebuttal but you didn't instead get mad at me. am sorry if that hurts you and I will talk about JWs like this again if you don't like it.

why I open this thread is because the other one has become too generic. your fellow JWs come when I tell them the discussion has gone pass the argument they will start calling me lazy or name calling me just because I said they should go back in the thread and read what we have said concerning this issue. there is nothing wrong if I hope this the title speaks why I opened this to clear the firstborn issue.

The bolded is what you would stubbornly run away from ............

And the JWs aren't insincere people...we accept truths when they are glaring and beyond reasonable doubt......we make quick adjustments when facts are all considered......

I had juxtaposed Jesus being firstborn of and beginning of to collapse every straw your clutching at by holding on to firstborn as used in isreal and davids case alone but still you press on......please find a scripture were these 2 expreSsions are used on persons and then tell me if these persons never had a beginning.......those examples given were to show you that when these expressions are used it does not exempt the individual under consideration from a group but shows this individual is part of that group but the firstfruit of it.....simple thing has become complicated.....

Jesus wasn't created twice...he was created once.......

And he remains the firstborn of Gods creation and the beginning of it........

Even if we decide to cling to your cemented view of firstborn how does that negate the fact that the persons or beings who were appointed firstborns never had a beginning......??......

Did isreal and david fall from heaven without a beginning.....

If you claim Jesus is firstborn as to pre-eminence alone ,how did he become firstborn??......

Who made him the firstborn??........Jesus himself??......

Again I asked a question which you never cared to answer.....

Can we address the Father too as the firstborn of all creation??.......can we??......or can we call the Father the beginning of Gods creation??.....

I want us to get down to the end of this firstborn issue.......

Again I asked:::

Can you appoint someone the beginning of someone elses work or plan??........could we say isreal and david were also called the begiNning of some one elses plan??....

Can you??.......

While you kept mute not providing answers to these questions the scriptures were opened to elucidate on these points....

But what do we see!!!!!!.....

We see you maligning the JW's and blatantly ignoring truths........

Why I ask??.....why??why??why??........

Are you not ashamed for creating this thread after being battered from all corners from the other thread??.......

Watchtower watctower watchtower.....

Oya explain how Jesus is beginning of Gods creation you run........

explanation was brought straight away from the scriptures you dodge....

You come here they come open new thread.......

........

It is either you accede to scriptural truth or you confirm yourself to be a proud person..........


I guess your mates won't make any comments here.......

benalvino: could you do me a favor and create a kid that have 7 hands?

Oboy you have been dodging right left and center......

I asked you to give me examples of where the expreSsion beginning of is used with respects to living things but you have refused to....all u did was define what arche is and ran away....I have given you scriptural definitions and you say pro creation and creation is not the same........

And then I made the outstanding point that if parents pro create ofcourse God creates and so is Jesus being created by God.......

But no way you won't agree because you just can't bear the fact that Jesus had a beginning.......benimoore even quoted scriptures to show who wisdom is but you shove them aside.....you blind fold your eyes to the verses where wisdom unequivocally says ""I was born"........and lo and behold that wisdom is the beginning of Gods creation.....a perfect definition of the expression we've been considering.......

You can keep yapping awake,Watchtower and JW that's your business.....many on this site who love truths would go back home and do there home work.......

Keep struggling with truth until it dawns on you........

benalvino: I tire o.... really? I will give you one last example of this... if you no gree then Jesus create him self cause that could be the only possible out come

Lol....NO...Jesus is the beginning of Gods creation..........

Somebody create Jesus......

You would have to erase Jesus being the beginning of and firstborn of Gods creation from the bible to escape this glaring truth....

Make I paste the definition of procreate from thasaurus...

procreate
Parts of Speech: verb
Definition: reproduce
Synonyms: beget, breed, conceive, create,
engender

beget
Parts of Speech: verb
Definition: create, bear
Synonyms: afford, breed, bring, bring about,
cause

breed
Parts of Speech: verb
Definition: generate, bring into being
Synonyms: bear, beget, bring about, bring forth,
cause


Which ever way u want am scriptures full ground berekete to show you the truth.........

benalvino: procreation and creation are completely different things.. you are not creating but reproducing that is what procreation means...

I told you before... firstborn doesn't mean one thing in bible... if you want to argue this again I will be slow.
I may just give you another shot... mr Anony na my witness... go back and look it up again.

Smh!!!!!......

And you still don't get my point.......

Wether procreation or creation these expressions are consistently defined in the scriptures..........

Abeg where you want make I for go get the definition of beginning of from??....from greek mythology or some philosopher??.....

Use the scriptures to define what you. Read.......

And you know the similarity between pro-creation and creation??.......

I know you know but incase you've decided to act like you don't know I'ma tell you......

And if I can remember quite well I told you that all definition of firstborn applies to Jesus....you are the one filtering out one and clinging to the other......

My bro no escape route......

benalvino: you don they use procreation lmao no they deceive your self you parents gave birth you they did not create you.

alright by your logic Jesus create him self... the thing is you will never accept what firstborn mean...because if you accept your doctrine will fall...

Chei .........lol......I said my parents procreated me and I'm correct.......but God creates......apply these definitions to creation and you get your answers.......

That's all I want you to do.......

If I am the firstborn of and beginning of my Fathers virility it means I am the first of his issues and the start of his procreative activity.....

Now kindly apply this to Jesus being both the first born of and beginning of Gods creation.......

Benalvino apply it and say the truth.....

.....

Say the truth and end this thread.......

Say it......

Deuteronomy 21:17

NET Bible (©2006)
Rather, he must acknowledge the
son of the less loved wife as
firstborn and give him the double
portion of all he has, for that son
is the beginning of his father's
procreative power--to him should
go the right of the firstborn.

New Living Translation (©2007)
He must recognize the rights of
his oldest son, the son of the wife
he does not love, by giving him a
double portion. He is the first son
of his father's virility, and the
rights of the firstborn belong to
him.


Psalm 78:51

New International Version
(©2011)
He struck down all the firstborn
of Egypt, the firstfruits of
manhood in the tents of Ham.

New Living Translation (©2007)
He killed the oldest son in each
Egyptian family, the flower of
youth throughout the land of
Egypt.

English Standard Version
(©2001)
He struck down every firstborn in
Egypt, the firstfruits of their
strength in the tents of Ham.

New American Standard Bible
(©1995)
And smote all the firstborn in
Egypt, The first issue of their
virility in the tents of Ham.
King James Bible (Cambridge





This is a juxtaposition of firstborn of and beginning of someone elses work and how it is consistently used in the scriptures....

No amount of twisting can change it.....

benalvino: lmao... now your father is God n created you from dust abi? all in the name of argument... your father did not create you... if he did he will have control on what features to give you... like give you 3 brain four eyes and 8 hands since he didn't create you he cant give you those features.

na only early fathers they pro-create? what about mothers? what about dogs? so them be creators too?
that is your problem forcing Jesus to have a beginning...

see how you argument they make me laugh. lol. na you no wan accept... Israel is firstborn... david is firstborn and some other examples... but in reality they are not the firstborn. I don explain am for you... you know its preeminence but you no wan gree...

Lol......

Abeg when you been read about reuben being firstborn you hear him mama name??......

Fathers are in front when it comes to identifying firstborns.....

Now you gave the example of isreal and david,while I am about to give the example of several servants of God who were firstborns by virtue of the fact that they were the first amongst there siblings.....

I could remember once I asked you ;;;....

Was david and isreal the beginning of there Fathers pro creative acts??......

This is why Jesus being the beginning of Gods creation is there to collapse your definition of firstborn.....

Now Jesus is both firstborn of Gods creation and the beginning of Gods creation.....these 2 expressions confirms Jesus' origin......bible no dey talk lie.....

Please check up genesis 49:3 again and tell me I'm wrong when I say Jesus is part of creation but the first of it.......

goldplated: ah ah common sense will tell you to give birth you got to create. english or in any language, having a firstborn means creating and giving birth to your first child.

My brother trinitarians go circumvent just to agree with this straight away truth......

Firstborn of some one elses creation don turn to mystery for trinitarians there eye.....

benalvino: lmao... so your father create you... that means him no marry? him just create you from dust... Weldon to your common sense hahahaahhahaha I cant stop laughing common sense isn't that common after all.

My Father pro-created me and my siblings......without my Father I no go dey nairaland.....I won't exist......

While earthly Fathers pro creates,God the Father creates.......so figure it out...

firstborn of is what is under consideration......

I'm using scriptures strictly to interprete scriptures........

Your problem is that you just don't want to agree that Jesus had a beginning......

The earlier you accept this broad day light truth the better for you.....

I still get more scriptures wey define firstborn of and beginning of...when you ready I supply them..all our answers must come from d scriptures.....

deSika: Mr. Frosbel should i say am disappointed. How did you avoid my questions.

Here i go again. Did you see these verses in your bible.

2 peter 1:1
Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our savior Jesus

titus 2:13
while we wait for the blessed hope- the appearing of the glory of our great God and savior, Jesus Christ

hebrews 1:8
but unto the son he saith, thy throne, O God, is forever and ever

isaiah 9:6
for unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting father, the prince of peace

John 10:28
and i give unto them eternal life: and they shall never perish. [can any other heavenly being apart from God give life talkmore of eternal life]

how do you explain God as used in the above verses.

You forgot to quote romans 9:5 and also 1 john 5:7..........

But abeg you 2peter 1:1 clearly diFferentiates God from the appointed saviour Jesus.....

Abi you need eye glass to see am??.....