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They'll(atheist) blind fold there eyes to this scientific facts in the bible.....

pastormustwacc: Trollin. . .

Oboy where u go chuk head since na??....

This thread don gather enough pages o......

Atheist:-D:
1. HOW BIG IS HEAVEN? Will it have oceans, continents, hot and cold terrain? Can I get a tan if I am in hot weather for too long? Can I go skiing and bob sledding?

Heaven is Gods abode...and you can't get a tan there....lol......there is no time for play in the heavens....its work! Work!! And work!!!.......

Atheist:-D:
2- WHAT CAN WE DO THERE? Most of what we do is linked to society, with morals playing a big part.
Will we live in the current era, medieval era, antiquity or some sort of futuristic era?
What type of technology will exist? Bear in mind there will be ppl from different eras who would need to grasp the technology.
Will we have jobs? How will that work out? Will we need to educate ourselves to get better jobs or will all be chosen for us?

See what ever endeavors you strive for here on earth is what you can never get in the heavens.........those who go to heaven wiLl have to live according to the standards existing in heaven........the standards that exist in heaven does not change .....

Atheist:-D:
3-WHO WILL WE MEET? Will we meet ppl from all races and ages, periods in history? Will we age? Will women get pregnant? Will there be childbirth?

Ofcus peoples who will inherit the heavens would be persons from all races........but not from all ages or periods in history....they would only be persons who were baptized with water and the holy spirit(born again)...that would mean persons who accepted Christ from pentecost 33 C.E.........

That means abraham,abel,john the baptist,sarah,david,samuel and all faithful patriarchs that existed before the coming of Christ aint qualified to make up the elects that would go rule alongside with Jesus in heaven......rather they would spend eternity in the new earth that is to come.......

Atheist:-D:
4-WHAT TYPE OF ECONOMY?- How will the economy work? Any elaborate details please. capitalism, communism, other economic model?

There aint going to be any buying and selling in heaven...no businesses.......there has never been....so there isn't any need for an economy in the heavens.....

Atheist:-D:
5-WILL THERE BE ECONOMIC BOOM AND BUSTS?

Lol......naaaaa........NOOOOOOO.......spirit creatures don't need that......

Atheist:-D:
6-WIll THERE BE WEALTH ? Will there be poverty?

Noooooo............spirit creatures are not aware of such...............because there make up is one that needs nothing but working for GOD......

Atheist:-D:
7-WILL THERE BETECHNOLOGY? What if the available technology is too advanced to adapt to? Imagine Abraham trying to operate a computer. Will technology grow with time? Will there be technological advances?

Hahahahahaha...................nooooo.........spirit creatures don't need technology............

Atheist:-D:
8-WHAT TYPE OF TRANSPORTATION AND COMMUNICATION WILL BE PRESENT? What about green technology? Will there be interplanetary travel? Will we be able to visit earth?

Lol................visiting earth??..........there won't be any need for that.........Jesus and his co-rulers would just do there jobs right from the heavens............no need for visiting.......and there wouldn't be any need for transportation........

Atheist:-D:
9-WILL THERE BE SEX? Will it be by polygamy or monogamy? If there is childbirth will we need pregnancy prevention?

There won't be any sex in heaven.....angels don't have sex....the heavens and the spirit creatures who occupy them don't and won't engage in sex......that's not what the heavens was made for.......the earth was made for that....

Atheist:-D:
10-WILL THERE BE WAR?

Not really.......if I could remember,war has already taken place in heaven........the war that drove satan down to the vicinity of the earth......after that there won't be any war in heaven.........its the earth that would experience the war of armageddon............

Atheist:-D:
11-HOW WILL DISPUTES BE SETTLED? Who will be the judiciary?

Yahweh is the ultimate judge...besides I don't think there would be disputes....everything would be done decently and by arrangement.....and perfect.....

Atheist:-D:
12- WHAT TYPE OF GOVT SYSTEM WILL EXIST? Tell me more about this govt system? What type is it? Monarchy, democracy, constitutional monarchy, communist dictatorship, other form of dictatorship?How are the members of govt chosen? Are they elected by the common man? How long is their duration. What leadership/management/economic skills will they have to lead? From the bible I believe the govt is some form of monarchy With God as the reigning monarch.

THEOCRASY would be the form of government in the heavens....rulership by YAHWEH through his son Jesus Christ.........
There isn't any election whatso ever......Yahweh does the choosing and everybody obeys......

Logicboy03: Yet you are here using an atheist website on an atheist designed computer.



Religious tool

Which atheist designed computer??....

TroGunn: I really don't get your struggle with this.

Is/was Jesus a spirit messenger of God? It's a resounding YES.

Is Jesus higher than all other spirit messengers? Another resounding YES.

Does the Bible give reasons to believe that Jesus commands/leads angels (the Archangel role/function)? Of course YES, from the following verses:
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Matthew 16:27 "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what he has done."
Matthew 25:31 "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory."
Mark 8:38 "If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels."
Luke 9:26 "If anyone is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels."
1 Thessalonians 3:13 May he strengthen your hearts so that you will be blameless and holy in the presence of our God and Father when our Lord Jesus comes with all his holy ones.
2 Thessalonians 1:7b This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels.
Revelation 19:14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. [/b]

That's exactly the point of Hebrews 1:5, 13. Nothing there precludes the possibility of Jesus playing the role of Archangel (or leader of angels/messengers of God) when occasion demands it. It also doesn't stop Jesus from playing the other mighty roles God assigned to him - King (Mighty God), Prince of Peace, Eternal Father, Mediator, etc.

"For to which of the angels (= messengers) did God ever say, “You are my Son""... nothing here indicates that the person of attention ( Jesus) is not God's foremost messenger. The purpose of the verses is to highlight his superiorty to the rest.

This has been my stance all along...............

1....The scriptures has proven that Jesus was called an angel(angelios).....

2....The scriptures has proven Jesus is the appointed leader of Gods angels,of which Jesus is the foremost of them all....

3...The scriptures have revealed parallels between the actions of michael and Jesus,and they are one and the same.......

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This is precept upon precept,here a little there a little.....

Atheist:-D:
Ok. Obadiah said we can have as many wives as we want!!! Now you are saying there will be no sex or childbirth.

What about nuns? So they will never get to enjoy the pleasure of sex or childbirth in heaven? What type of everlasting paradise will not include s.ex

Hahahahahahaha...........no mind obadiah ooo........

now the problem is many have taught for too long that everlasting life would only spent in the heavens..but the bible never teaches that.....everlasting life would also be spent here on the earth(a rejuvenated earth,not the earth we see today)..........

Persons who would go to heaven to spend eternity are the elect,and they would be going there to rule alongside with Christ.................they make up the new heaven(new rulership.)....obadiah was right as regards the rulership aspect........

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##..So new earth = a new human society(they'll all be persons serving Yahweh and his son)....and they'll reside here on earth


##...new heaven = new rulership that is spare headed by Gods king designate, Jesus and his co -rulers..........and there kingdom is situated in the heavens(Yahwehs abode)....

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All those who would enjoy everlasting life on earth would experience all the good things that are meant for humans............
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You can read matthew 5:3 $ 5.........

Jesus mentioned the 2 destinations where righteous persons would spend eternal life,,,,,,.....

Atheist:-D:
Why wont there be sex in heaven? Or are you saying there will not be any procreation? No preganancies? No childbirth?

If so, what else will heaven have/not have?

Sex and pro creation only takes place here on earth.........that is why God created the earth...........
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The heavens is strictly occupied by spirit creatures who work tirelessly for GOD................giving birth and having sex is not one of the jobs being done there.....

Nope

cyrexx: LOL.

But seriously, you cant deny his passion and dogged determination to represent the non-religious folks. I dont think nairaland religion section will be what it is today without logicboy.

He may not be perfect, but he is good at what he does. That's why he earned my vote.

Comprende? Monsiuer Ijawkid.

Lol......I know that...I was just trying to look for trouble.....................

But I'll have to choose between goshen and mr.anony,depending on who is getting more of the votes........logic boy must loose this election o......lol......

obadiah777: I CAST MY VOTE FOR LOGICBOY. HE IS A PAIN IN THE AZZ BUT HE IS A GOOD MAN. GOOD LUCK BRAH.

What!!!!!........how can you vote for a "" pain in the ASSSSS""??......e be like you no like your ASSSSSS.....lol...

cyrexx: I'm the first to vote and my vote is going to no other than the Golden Child and Shining Knight of Nairaland Atheism Movement in Naija..

[size=14pt]I'm casting my vote for LOGICBOY [/size]

Na this yeye boy u dey vote for??............

Logicboy03: Are you an atheist?


Why did you come here to smh?

Its good I came to shake your head!!!!!!......

I go soon shake sense enter inside....lol...

Why would there be sex in heaven??....who made you think of that??....

Let me give it a shot.....

Yahwehs holy spirit left saul due to his disobedience and so an evil spirit was what enveloped saul....

When the holy spirit leaves a person,the spirit of the world(evil spirit) comes to fill up that vacuum.....

So it is either one is filled with the holy spirit or filled with an evil spirit.....

Removal of the holy spirit =filled with evil spirit....

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This verse had been discussed before on this forum..........
Let me go find the link......

obadiah777: HEY KINGPIN IJAWKID WETIN YOU CHOP REMAIN SIR

Lol.......na plantain and fish I eat o.....the niger delta dish........you ready to chop am??....

Smh!!!!!!!!.......

Only if religion mixes with the world will it be corrupt............

Hmmmmm...........

I've been missing in action.......it seems I have to get myself back into this thread......

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Now what is haPpening??.....

obadiah777: I THINK THAT SHIP HAS SAILED HUN. THE HEATHENS HAVE IT WON BY A MILE. ITS THE STORY OF LIFE. IT IS ONLY RIGHT FOR A HEATHEN TO WIN IN A HEATHEN WORLD. WE ARE BEHIND ENEMY LINES HUN. WE ARE OUTGUNNED AND OUTNUMBERED

Not when you got the double edged sword by ya side......

Bélla3: The heathens al gave atleast one nomination to the cheif heathen. Lol. Oya make we chose who we go vote else them heathens go win. And our good RELIGIOUS SECTION'S name would b changed to ATHEIST SECTION. Lol.

I agree o.....we need to unanimously choose a chief religionist,before the arch atheist(logicboy) wins this election......lol..... .....

musKeeto: What does it mean to worship God in 'SPIRIT and TRUTH'

You sure you wanna know??.....

Emulating the way Jesus worshipped the Father sure tells us how to worship God in spirit and truth......

tobechi74: Last month, a friend told me how a pastor he had met for financial breakthrough prayed for him and asked him to undergo 7 days prayer and fasting .on d last day, he should dig a hole in front of his house,say I HANDOVER ALL MY FINANCIAL PROBLEM TO THIS COCONUT AND BREAK THE COCONUT BY THROWING IT IN THE HOLE.

Though i adviced him not to do it,he insisted. He said it workd for him his buisnes has improved ever since.


Just last week, my aunt told me how a pastor told her she was living with a devil. She was to mix olive oil with salt and sand.pray over it and pour d mixture at d entrance of her house by 12 mid night.

She did. D next day, the new housemaid startd complainin of stomach ache after steping her leg on the spot.

To me, al dis isnt biblical, but d fact dat it works got me tinking. If a pastor ask me to perform a ritual, is it right? Wil u do it?

Lol...ofcus they aint biblical....people have forgotten so quickly that we are to worship God in spirit and truth...........

doubleDx: How do you explain this part? God told Moses that he appeared to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Exodus 6:3:

And I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Through is messengers........messengers of God are always presented as God himself........

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Just as being representatives of Christ might make persons call us Christ......that is why when you persecute Christians you are persecuting Christ.....why do you think Christ asked saul ""why are you persecuting me""..??.....

The scriptures never will contradict itself......its an established fact that no one can see and has ever seen the almighty.....

manmustwac: whether God is invisible or whether God exists only in your imagination dose not make much difference to the unbeliever

Na you sabi.....

Didn't obj know GEJ would be inept??........why support and install a successor that he(obj) would end up criticizing??.....

these leaders are all birds of a feather and they don't give a damn about nigerians........

I dislike them all......

plappville: This is not true, and what potion of the scripture did you get that from?
The ten commandment would have been broken with your claim. The ten commandment was obeyed hence no paint work was done
for any righteous figures in the Scripture. There were images in currencies but never was there picture Jesus made.

Besides, when the Pharisees asked Christ if they should pay taxes to Caesar: He said, "Who's inscription does the coin bear?" (Mark 12:17)
Certainly, there was the face/head of Tiberius, As it was His period of rule as emperor.
This denarius featuring Tiberius on the obverse and his mother Livia on the reverse, would have been the coin Jesus held up in His speech.
It was the only type of denarius in circulation throughout Jesus’ adult life.


This shows there have had good goldsmiths and artists then, But none of them had pictures of Gods prophets.
It was scripturally prohibited. So where does the church got thier "Jesus picture" from is an uneding question.

All this truths you wrote down would never penetrate the ears of catholics....they are hell bent on worshipping images ...............

plappville: This is not true, and what potion of the scripture did you get that from?
The ten commandment would have been broken with your claim. The ten commandment was obeyed hence no paint work was done
for any righteous figures in the Scripture. There were images in currencies but never was there picture Jesus made.

Besides, when the Pharisees asked Christ if they should pay taxes to Caesar: He said, "Who's inscription does the coin bear?" (Mark 12:17)
Certainly, there was the face/head of Tiberius, As it was His period of rule as emperor.
This denarius featuring Tiberius on the obverse and his mother Livia on the reverse, would have been the coin Jesus held up in His speech.
It was the only type of denarius in circulation throughout Jesus’ adult life.


This shows there have had good goldsmiths and artists then, But none of them had pictures of Gods prophets.
It was scripturally prohibited. So where does the church got thier "Jesus picture" from is an uneding question.

All this truths you wrote down would never penetrate the ears of catholics....they are hell bent on worshipping images ...............

Zikkyy: we don't need your type in our church. With peeps like you around here Pastor Goshen will not be able to acquire that private jet God revealed to him

Lol...........

Zikkyy: You mean Pastor Goshen and in case you don't know, I am in charge of the offering plate around here so do the right thing *[size=4pt]gives J-soul the offering plate[/size]*

Lol.........I don put hole for the plate.....as jesoeul dey drop am na me dey collect am.....

elrony: Lol nw u gat me laffin bro...hahaha.,.me like ur opinion and insight buh amma stick wid mine...takia

Hmm mm..........na serious matter be this o!!!!!........