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elrony: Bro pls tell me who made xmas a pagan holiday...nd plz wat truth am i hidin from.?..
Itz jst lyk u sayin i shudnt go 2 church on a sunday because ogun worshipperz are goin 2 the shrine dat same day bro...

Merry christmas bro!

You are asking me who made xmas pagan??.........

Xmas is paganism itself.......

Was Jesus born on december 25th??.........

Answer this simple question and then you can try to do a re-think......

If ogun worshippers worship on a sunday and you also go to church on sunday independent of the fact that you might have snatched that day from the same ogun worshippers then there isn't any connection..........but when you snatch an ogun festive celebration date(commemoration) and gloss it with Jesus then you just engaged in paganism.......

You should then ask yourself::::

What were u even doing with ogun worshippers in the 1st place,that would warrant you to steal there date and attach it to Jesus??........

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As we can all see,the real origin of xmas is manifesting.......we've got more of atheists and pagans celebrating xmas now and they still don't believe in Jesus..........

That is why I said you guys have forced xmas on Jesus...because the professed celebrant(Jesus) according to you guys did not even celebrate his birthday and dec 25th is a wrong date....


So of what use is the christmas.??......

italo: The Bible doesn't tell us that Jesus knelt to his bed and worshipped it. Why do you do it? It is YOU that has said many times that anything that Jesus did not do or command in the Bible is a sin, not me.

Italo you go make me vex o with your childish questions and reasoning...........Jesus slept on a bed and by your words you also must be inferring he worshipped it.......because I don't knw what else I do with my wooden bed apart from sleeping on it...........

If you say sleeping on my bed is idolatry then I'll knw how to handle your case.........

Let me remind you again::::I am not like you that will worship plank,stones,images etc.........

italo: You have never talked about what the apostles would have done if they were still alive before. All you normally say is "where is it in the Bible." So why does it now matter what the apostles would have done if they were here today? Is it now acceptable to do what the apostles didn't do in the Bible? Suddenly?

The apostles used all the means of communication that existed in the first century to spread the goodnews.........except you wanna argue the apostles never communicated with the persons they tried to reach............

Its like saying Jesus wouldn't have entered okada if he existed in our time,..........

Ubenedictus: u too chop chop na e make d mani quick finish, b4 e finish kpatakpa send my own come oh! Even bible talk am, "the one wu doesn't have, d little he has will be taken from him".

Chei I don die o....this wan you just quote bible e mean say I don hands up...I surrender!!!!.....lol......



Oya I go send u small.........like how much you need??...........

italo: Why are you now talking about scrolls and scripture. I taught you didn't accept anything that is not in your adulterated Jehovah's Witness "bible". Don't you know that there are writings in scrolls that are not in your bible?

You show me from the scrolls where any normal sane Jew or Christian worshipped a Bible or Parents or Bed. Show me where a normal sane Jew or Christian evangelized on the internet like you are doing now.

You even said I worship my bed abi??.......smh!!!!!!.........I thank God Jesus also slept on some kinda bed,maybe he too worshipped the material he slept on......

Let me tell you....if the apostles were alive today they'll evangelize via the internet...its a means of communication...I thought your olodo brain must have taught you that.......

The apostles used all means of communication existing back then in the 1st century to foster the goodnews..........was it through writing??....was it through messengers??...name it.......

Ubenedictus: he didnt read "d bible" and was never recorded to have knelt and prayed b4 one, so say italo.

Ube when did I ever tell you I kneel before the scriptures when I read them.......have you guys got some eye problems??.........

I don't bow down to the scriptures when I read them...........

I don't bow down to my android tablet when I open the scriptures to read from it neither do I bow down to the book(Gods word).....

Direct this your allegations to people who see Gods word(the scriptures) as a tallisman rather than a book filled with important informations for our consumption.........direct your questions to persons who put there bibles in front of there cars, and under there pillows thinking it will save them from danger.....direct your questions to persons who bow down and pray to there bibles......

Because the person(ijawkid) you are discussing with does not engage in such jejune acts........all I do is read Gods word like Jesus and the apostles did and apply what I read..............

If you are looking for idolaters that will sympathize with you guys,quietly go look for the roman pagans whom you sprang out from or you can go look for buddhists......y'all have so much in common.......

Don't look for ijawkid.......I'm not an idol worshipper.......

Ubenedictus: hahaha, u wanna go ask d early xtians?

Make ona go hide ona idolatrous faces for somewhere............

italo: You reverence your parents and they pray for you. You kneel to the Bible and pray to it. You even kneel to your bed (a work of a furniture maker) and pray to it. It's not a must you use our words. You use your own words to worship your parents, bed and Bible.

If till this moment you still can't understand that you are an idolater,then you need serious help.........

Childs play won't help you.........

Keep being foolish with your graven images.........

Boomark: You are seriously interested in current affairs while we are interested in bringing you back to God.

You are interested in things synonymous to: who is the first president of Jamaica? Who discovered that mosquito can bite? Etc.

Who are these protestants you kept mentioning as if they stole something from you?

Like I said they are even the PROTESTANTS............

Lovethywilbedon: Wonderful!!. You must be a Very Bright, Brilliant, Clever, Intelligent Boy, for haven asked you question and answered it by yourself. You know what?. I Score 100%. So now you can Clap For Yourself. As a matter of fact this is THE GREATEST DISPLAY OF IMMATURITY I have ever withnessed in Nairaland. Anyway that is non of my business. Now haven done all the collection and parkaging WHO? then gave it the Very Name, "The Holy "BIBLE"". Is it The Catholics or The Protestants?. If you are Sincere to yourself, that You Are Not ASHAMED To Be A Protestant, answer that Simple Question CORRECTLY.

Infact I'll have to say this.......catholics are even the protestants.............you guys abandoned completely the traditions which the apostles instigated with the help of the holy spirit and clung to fables and pagan traditions of men.......you guys are the protestants.........

y'all better go hide your idolatrous head in shame......................

If the person who used a synonymous word for the scriptures or scrolls is your problem then you seriously need help......all these questions in an effort to keep wallowing in idolatry......,smh!!!!!.....

Lovethywilbedon: Now this is what I call DEFENCE MECHANISM. All these garbage has not answered my simple question. If you are not ashamed of being a protestant try and answer my question with all sincerity

Your question is useless.......

I want you to define what the word ""bible" means...........

Since you are finding persons who will sympathize with you in your idolatrous acts I know you would join italo in asking irrelevant questions.........

Did Jesus read from the scriptures or not??.....you are there asking me if the word bible is in the bible....meanwhile your presumpteous colleague just said I pray to the bible.....make him come show me when I bow down to bible and then praying to it.......

Definintion of the word ""bible""....

Bi·ble
[bahy-buh l]

-n.
1. the collection of sacred writings of the Christian religion, comprising the Old and New Testaments.
2. the collection of sacred writings of the Jewish religion: known to Christians as the Old Testament.
3. the sacred writings of any religion.
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Like I said if the word ""bible"" is your problem,I'm ready to stick to words like scrolls and scriptures..........

All I wanted from you guys is show me from the scrolls were any normal sane christian or Jew worshipped mary and prayed through her and also used prayer beads........

BERNIMOORE: @Bidam

as a modern tithe advocate, you demostrate below that one should not follow what you say.

Bidam's supposed last post




stop being sympathethic! in order to confuse people, the approved Tithe started with the leviticus priesthood!and it was 'on' increase for foodstuff and number ten of animal that can pass under the staff,so in otherwords, the tenth part spoil practice(pre-law) was of pagan origin! hence the levitical priesthood, but then levitical priesthood ended on the cross, then long throat caused you guys to extend your claim to pre-law pagan practice, ole thief and barawo you are, Bidam!

leviticus priesthood that came with the innauguration of tithe as a standard to the isrealites was annuled! you want to see that? the same way(parallel) that circumcision was of no effect to new christian converts,

AND THEREFORE (because of its weakness and unprofitableness,)IT WAS ANNULED, (OR ENDED BY NAILING IT ON THE TURTURE STAKE)
COLOSIANS 2:13,14;

13And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

THE ANNULEMENT!

Hebrew 7:19,22;

18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness


19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

22 by so much more Jesus has become a surety of a better covenant.

compare with malachi 3:1 ............''Even the [size=16pt]Messenger of the covenant[/size],
In whom you delight.
Behold, He is coming,”
Says the Lord of hosts.

word for word,the tithe in malachi 3:10 canvassed for a ''Messenger of the covenant'' (jesus) who after his death annuled the law he became a suretee of a better convenant! (heb 7:22)

so we are not under law that includes tithing and forcefull circumcision to be Gods servant, but our call is through christ, and our circumcision through our heart, our giving is not through coded law but from the heart,'cheerfull' and acceptable according to what one has. thats why the poor have no need during the apostles,because their need was duly taking care of!


can you see why i said that you are a thief? see why
before jumping exegical holes to claim something not for you, lets see from the begining (chap 1) of malachi who the message is adressed to;

Malachi 1
King James Version (KJV)
1 [size=14pt]The burden of the word of the Lord to Israel[/size] by Malachi.

a, you are not a levi,talkless of being an isrealite whom malachi rebuked because of offering blind and lame animals while they keep the good ones to theirself, read malachi chap 2.
b, how does 'storehouse' turned to church?
c, how does food turned to cash?

malachi 3:1 God said that im sending 'my messenger' our lord (jesus) to refine levi,(who are priests) and offering will be done in righteousness (mal 3:3) thereby jesus nulified the levitical tithe!


who told you that malachi 3:10 was a tithe prophecy? see your life? or a time that we will not be under law?

go and stop manipulating the bible, na wa for you oo, you think you are just talking to an in experienced,eeee ya!

You just hit the nail on the head my brother........

I wonder why they took out the "store house" part and totally neglected the sacrificing of animals that was still mentioned in that malachi......

And like you asked when did store house = church??....

Good questions my bro.......

italo: My friend. It doesn't matter how many words you use to bamboozle yourself.

Jesus never mentioned the word "Bible." Jesus never read the Bible. Jesus never knelt to a Bible and prayed to it.

Yet you do all these things. You reverence your parents and have them pray for you. You are allowing all these things to take the place of the almighty God. That is idolatry. Quit it...its a freeway to hell.

I can't remember when I ever said to my parents....."" HOLY PARENTS please pray for us(me and my siblings) sinners"" Or to the scriptures ""holy bible please pray for us sinners""

.........those are the Exact words you say to a deÀd mary and to the image of a white woman thinking its mary........
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If till this moment you still can't understand that you are an idolater,then you need serious help.........

You're doing good bro frosbel....keep it up.....

Lovethywilbedon: My friend you should'nt resort to using silly names on people just to make some cheap points. On the other hand let me test you level of SINCERITY if you can answer the following question CORRECTLY. [.....Question] WHO even gave these SCIPTURES or SCROLLS the very name ""BIBLE."" Is it the CATHOLICS or the PROTESTANTS/pentecostals?.

So the word ""bible "" is your problem??uh??....

That is why I have resorted to using the word ""scrolls""............

Jesus read from a written script,scroll or whatever the prophets wrote on........

And I am trying to prove to your fellow idolaters that Jesus read from a written document or scroll, and so by italo's conclusion Jesus worshipped the scrolls he was given at the temple just because he read from it................

I simply told him(italo) that all I do is read the scriptures,but he(italo) insisted I worship and pray to the scriptures...........

Let him show me an image of one who prays to the bible......



Then I'll bring out photos of how you guys worship mary,bow down to her image and recite words of devotion to her........and also how you use prayer beads.....

Running away from a glaring fact that you guys are idolaters baffles me........

italo: Jesus never mentioned the word "Bible."

Jesus never said "where is it in the Bible?"

Jesus never read the Bible.

Jesus never knelt to the Bible.

Jesus never prayed to the Bible.

Yet these are things you do.

Sorry to say this.....but u be MUMU....

Would you be happy if I called the scriptures ""SCROLLs"??....since the word Bible is your problem,let me start using the word SCROLLs....

All in an effort to keep engaging in idolatry you resort to childs play.....

Let me quote a scripture that showed Jesus quoted from the scriptures...or should I say Scroll??....because the same scroll Jesus read from we still read it....
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Luke 4:17

##New International Version (©1984)
The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to
him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is
written:


##New Living Translation (©2007)
The scroll of Isaiah the prophet was handed to
him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place
where this was written:
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Just like Jesus did I read from the scriptures.....I don't bow down to the scriptures nor pray through it........rather you are the ones who bow down to marys image and pray through her........blatant idolatry....

Ubenedictus: Word play, bible vs scriptures, two kids on da thread. Besides Jesus read scriptures, it it is no where written dat he read "the bible" and it is not written that he knelt and prayed b4 "a bible".

Jesus read the scriptures...........and so I do........

Ubenedictus: mi and mi people dey wella, i hear say dem don pay una coppers, oya begin send my share come now now.

Lol..money wey don almost finish..I don tire for the service sef..na u suppose send me money sef..

italo: I repeat: Jesus never read the Bible! He never even mentioned the word "Bible"! He never knelt to the Bible and prayed to it as you do.

You can use many words to twist it but it doesn't matter one bit.

Stop doing what Jesus didn't do. Stop doing what Jesus didn't command you to do.

Stop the idolatry!

Jesus read from the scriptures.......

Keep decieving yourself that Jesus didn't read from the scriptures............

Jesus showed by example that we should read from Gods laws......

Something you and your colleagues fail to do,rather you let pagans be the masters you imitate...............

musKeeto: You should know by now that I'm not bothered by most of these 'revelations'. Just a burning question at the back of my mind, is there a diamond ring to be found in all this mud?
I watch you theists sling verses at each other from 'your' Bible, no one is ever right or wrong... those who aren't clear on an issue ask for more time to dwell on it through the Holy Spirit's leading.. sic..
Those against tithes are quick to jump on anti-thing threads, likewise anti-Catholic folks like you and the ever present opposition manager Frosbel.. lol

It's funny, you know.

Lol......how we go do na........??.....

Scriptural truths is that diamond.......

musKeeto: Its like you no get better answer for my question...

I've got an answer to your question,but of what use would it be to you??......

I expected you to put down your comments on what the OP said,rather na my comment you wan attack.....wetin I talk na lie??........

Christmas and easter is pagan....don't you agree??

italo: Jesus never read the Bible. Jesus never even mentioned the word "Bible."

...And he certainly didn't kneel to the Bible and pray to it.

Keep deluding yourself with idolatry........

I said Jesus read from the scriptures......na lie??..........

See the definition of scripture::

Scrip·ture
[skrip-cher]

-n.
1. the sacred writings of the Old or New Testaments or both together.
2. any writing or book, esp. when of a sacred or religious nature.
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For you to say Jesus didn't read from the scriptures you must be a liar or one refutes truths.......

And like Jesus I don't bow down to the scriptures when I read them and I don't worship it nor pray to the pages of the scriptures......its a book and not Yahweh......how many times I go tell you....smh!!!!.......

Ubenedictus: i dont see it as such. How ya dey?

My brother I dey o.....I just dey try round up with this NYSC wahala.........how u dey na??...how your people??

italo: Ijawkid flee from idolatry. All these grammar you are speaking won't help you when the master comes again. Flee from worshipping your Bible and Parents.

You are in essence also saying that Jesus practiced idolatry when he read from the scriptures...........

Keep deluding yourself with idolatry.........

musKeeto: Abeg, sharrap.. Which sect no dey fall Jesus hand?

Its like you want make I bring the baygon I buy for you............

Ubenedictus: mayb it is time to stop telling ur children lies abt santa! Wen i was young i already knew d a person from d neigbourhood would be santa! We usually come back home and have a good laugh since every year sum mischievious children will pull santa's beard and disgrace him.

You have to start telling your kids that the xmas celebration is a HOAX and that Jesus wasn't born on dec 25th and that santa is has no relationship with Jesus......be truthful to and honest with your kids.......

Ubenedictus: did u 4get sumtin? Scriptural proof! Where are they?

Its all over the scriptures that we should flee from idolatry and paganism.....abi you want make I open scriptures for you again??.....eh??

italo: Flee from idolatry... That's what I'm telling you. Don't let Jesus come and meet you worshipping your parents and kneeling and praying to your Bible o.

Stop this idolatry.

How is it that you can give advice but cannot take it?

Where did Jesus tell you to worship the Bible or even to read it? Flee from this idolatry.

So I shouldn't read the scriptures anymore.?? Abi??.....Jesus read from Gods law,and I'm imitating him.........for you to say people who read the scriptures worship it shows how much of an olodo you have become...

E be like too much idolatry dey pain your head.......you need to rest a bit.........

Ubenedictus: hahahahaha, mr italo don turn d table, d early part of thread ijawkid dey shout "flee" italo say "i no get any idol" now italo say "flee" ijawkid say "i dont worship it". D same accusation u threw has been thrown back to ya.

Italo did nothing but spew rubbish......

He said ""reading the bible"" means worshipping the bible.....meaning Jesus who read from the book of the law also worshipped the bible.......

You dey see how yeye your colleagues(italos) conclusion is??........

You both should go hide your heads in shame for engaging in arrant idolatry......

these catholics don fall christianity hand too much....smh!!!!!...........

What they thought they had christianized remained what it was....(Paganism)........

#Easter
#christmas

All pagan..........

Smh again and again and again.....

Boomark: . I have told you satan and his demons must have taken advantage of those uncensored graven images that lack design specification to represent themselves and receive reverence and bow from catholics.

Looking for a scapegoat to go down with you? E no go work. Pride will not help you.

GBAM!!!!!....

The boy dey find who go wallow with am in his idolatrous acts.......