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18 year old Felix Afena Gyan just scored a brace for Mourinho.

What a player!!!!!

handelex:
Not when the novice has tasted some semblance of success, clearly believes in himself to succeed and have the firm backing of his employer

You sef check am, you go resign?

I would resign if I love the club like Ole claims.

If it’s just a hit job in which I have no emotional connection with the football club, of course I would remain and stack as much wages as possible before getting kicked out.

For Zidane and Gattuso, it was never a question of money. They genuinely love the club and when they thought their time was up, they left. They forfeited millions of Euros by putting the fans’ interest before their bellies.

That’s what legends do.

handelex:
In as much as Ole's a mee manager, what the guy said is true. If as a company owner you employ a novice, who we suppose blame?

If the novice loves the company, he would put the interest of the company and the interest of the shareholders before himself.

Gattuso did that at Milan and he forfeited his 2 year salary. That’s a proper legend. If the board didn’t act, Ole would have remained at the role. Taking £8m a year while driving the club down.

Let it be on record that Ole has left United in 8th position with a squad many considered good enough to win the league. Ole has proven himself to be the worst United manager in the PL era.

He should be arrested immediately.

CapitalCee:
He won treble with peak Neymar, Suarez and Messi

But your manager couldn’t even win Europa with peak Rashford, Martial and Greenwood.

You guys talk as if it’s pretty much guaranteed that a manager must win with elite front 3. If it’s that easy, how come Klopp hasn’t won the treble with peak trio of Salah, Mane and Firmino?

nitrogen:
He is right sha. The new manager will inherit good players, but would need to put in place a structure. We are patternless right now. Shey under Mou, we played defensive footie, and Ole leveraged the structure to play some counterattacking football. Right now, there is nothing the team is known for (re: style of play).

What about DNA?

We play DNA football(pace and passion).

ChristoBam:
What many United fans don't understand is when Ole came in, he met a structure. A Mourinho's team that was well drilled but was low on desire and confidence. He came in and gave them freedom and things were much more lively. So we were playing like crazy beasts. Every iota of that structure is totally gone now. So the new manager will have it totally difficult. We have no structure and we're poorly drilled. This is not a matter of confidence or downing tools.

Some players we signed came in from teams that had structures and they knew their functions in the team...Well coached teams no matter the level.

But the more games they played under this chaos of a regime, the more everything got stripped from them. Even Bruno has been affected by this. You see him playing with all his might and power, but when you rely on individual brilliance for too long, you tend to lose your sense of direction as a player...

I was told Ole stabilized the club.

I an shocked many people can lie to themselves that United look like a stable club.

patrickmuf:
Special mentions to all those of us who saw Ole for what he is, a big time fraud even when majority still backed him...Y'all the real MVPs...

The real MVP is Nani666.

I need to buy 3 cartons of Goldberg beer for the dude. He was relentless throughout.

TrebleChamp:
How good his Enrique tactically? Am not convinced about his coach style ooh....

Enrique? The treble winner?

He would give the evil trident(Pep Klopp Tuchel) a run for their money.

I just hope the board would give the incoming manager the total control.

Now we are talking…..

Ronaldo wants to win the PL & UCL again. He wants an elite manager at Old Trafford, not those apprentices(Carrick, Fletcher) who are still learning the ropes.

patrickmuf:
Majority of those fans who were vocal in their support of Ole have abandoned the thread ...When we engaged them, some of you joined them in having a go at us even when it was obvious they were trolls...

Where are those so called "Real fans"? Una must get sense by fire by force...

They are on their way to Oslo. They are determined to follow Ole and remain loyal to the very end.

hoopLA:
Las Las we wasted how many pages going back and forth over an issue that was as clear cut as day and night.

I'm glad the pages we bickered on aren't made of paper,or else we'd have been in a global environmental crisis due to insufficient trees because they were felled to keep this thread going.

If Olesexuals had any shame,they'd deactivate their respective accounts,instead of this collective mea culpa they are being forced to grovelingly do.

At least QueenAlabi has more sense than I give him credit for. Quietly pursuing his fuji music career with his alter ego (Pasuma) and harassing NURTW workers.


The other one (his gæy partner in arms) is still here flexing his mouth like rubber band.

What the ?? ?? ??

Nezzjnr:
Manchester United board decision to sack Ole Gunnar Solskjær has been also approved by Glazer. It’s over. � #MUFC

Official statement in place, mutual agreement reached to respect Ole and part ways.

Fletcher-Carrick now ready as interim solution if no instant solution is found.

The only ex-player that should be stepping into the interim role is Roy Keane. The others are just yes men and that includes Neville and Rio.

3 years later and over £400m spent, Ole has left United in a worse state than he met it.

OleInners in another putrid mud.

Oasis007:
The decision has been taken to dismiss Solskjær as Manchester United manager at the emergency board meeting. Richard Arnold will negotiate the exact terms of his exit.

Duncan Castles

Joel Glazer would fly in tomorrow night and ask the board to trust the process.

The most useless board in Europe. They could have done this two weeks ago. Give the new manager some time to know the players and prepare for the coming fixtures.

Lower clubs with lower expectations have shown more ambition than the United board. Ole has ruined everything built by Jose. Arsenal fans are begging Man Utd not to sack Ole yet cos they know too well that 3 points is guaranteed when they play us.

This club is doomed.

popizaino:
For every Dele Alli who is worthless, there is equally a sergio Ramos and a whole lot of Madrid player who went on the win bigger without Mourinho. Paul pogba is also proving mourinho wrong with the French sidd, Hazard would go on to win the league just immediately Mourinho left............all this is a prove that mourinho is not always right and should always be ready to accept the failure of his teams,not blaming players as usual.

Yet, it was Mourinho that gave Ramos his credibility back in the Pep era while Madrid were forced to play second fiddle to Barcelona year after year.

Mourinho won Ramos his first ever Copa Del Rey, a competition Madrid hadn’t won in the previous 18 years. It was also Mourinho that got Ramos his first CL quarter final, after Madrid kept crashing out of R16 for 6 consecutive seasons. There would have been no confident Sergio Ramos without Jose Mourinho. He made Ramos.

How’s Pogba proven Mourinho wrong? Pogba’s success are with his country, not with any club side. Pogba’s last football trophy was under Mourinho(4 years ago). France was winning things before Pogba ever made his way into the national team. Pogba hasn’t proven Mourinho wrong in any way. Pogba won the World Cup as a Mourinho protégé and Mourinho had already explained why Pogba was successful with France back then.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11446868/jose-mourinho-says-paul-pogba-thrived-with-france-due-to-world-cup-format

Hazard had his best year under Mourinho. In the 7 full seasons Hazard spent in England, the only time he won PFA/FWA, player’s player award, etc in the PL was under Mourinho.

So let’s sum up the tally…..

Ronaldo had his best goal scoring stats under Mourinho in his career. Of all the managers that have managed Cristiano, it was under Mourinho that he scored the most goals.

Harry Kane had his best productive stats under Mourinho.

Eden Hazard’s best football ever was under Mourinho. He packed all the individual awards in 14/15.

Pogba’s last success at club level was under Mourinho. It’s been more than 4 years and Pogba hasn’t won a spoon at club level post-Mourinho.

There are also players like Ramos, Sneijder, Ozil, Fabregas, etc who all had immense success under Mourinho.

Conclusion:- Mourinho is always right, bro.

popizaino:
At Madrid it was Sergio Ramos and others senior players, at Chelsea it was Shevchenko, hazard, fabregas and other rats, at man united it was paul pogba who was the virus. Well In all of this there is only one denominator with similar pattern of excuses, so no doubt about him being the real problem.

25 major trophies say he’s not the problem but the primadonna players who are lazy slobs. Mourinho demands excellence from his players, he does not tolerate sloppiness.

Obviously, sloppy players won’t like his methods and this is why Shaw won the “I have proven Mourinho wrong” trophy in the summer. Everything Mourinho has said about the players he had problems with have come to pass.

Pogba - virus
Shaw - useless
Dele Alli - worthless
Martial - sloth

Mourinho is always right.

popizaino:
I don't even want to dwell on this "IF" argument but I can swear with my life that Jose would have relegated us if he was allowed to continue, .......what is there to salvage in a season were he was losing to Bournemouth at the bridge?. Well some of us knew this for a fact and were already venting out frustration elsewhere.see prove below

That same squad won the PL title a season after. It wasn’t even a question of lack of talents or a poor squad, there was mutiny in the dressing room - instigated by Hazard and the other boyfriends of Eva.

hoopLA:
Lol.

You are a clown. A drunk one at that

Finished in top four ONCE in ELEVEN seasons with Everton in 2005. Got eliminated in the playoff round of the Chsmpions League.

That is who you call consistent.
That's who you are advocating for as manager for United as of 2013 and even now sef.

So wait, United played only Everton that stretch abi? You forgot that United also lost to City the following week and lost to Wigan the week before,blowing an 8-point lead in the process.

So where was Moyes in 2010,when we lost the title to Chelsea by 1 point?

Why is Moyes' suitability for United based on one result?

Oga you don't even know ANYTHING,talk less of ball.

You are just a jumbled bag of revisionist hot air.
You lie for a living, Fred Ajidua clone.


You and airmark who liked this post are useless clowns.
If you have any shame,you would leave this topic alone.

He has a knack of celebrating failures. All his football idols are failed players or managers.

David Moyes is one of the most useless managers in the history of British football. The same nepotism that made him a United manager is the same rubbish that propped Ole as United manager.

Without SAF dictating things in the boardroom, none of these two clowns would have assumed the role of a Manchester United manager. Moyes is one of the oldest managers in PL history with nothing to show for it.

Moyes has managed 1000 games in top flight football and he’s got nothing to show for it. Moyes has failed everywhere he’s been.

raumdeuter:
Moyes season was also incomplete. All these are excuses. Mourinho took his own team to midtable while Moyes took Fergusons team to 7th

Moyes had played 34PL games before he was sacked. At that point, top 4 was irredeemable.

Jose hadn’t even reached half way of the season when he got sacked, he could have made top 4 easily that season if given ample time to sort the dressing room.

Ibunkun1:
, boss how you take know these details about Eva and the Chelsea players

Haha.

It was an open secret that Chelsea players were shagging Eva.

raumdeuter:
Chelsea under Mourinho in 2015/16

Incomplete season and we all know the players downed tools after Eva was demoted.

5 Chelsea players including Eden Hazard were fuckïng her back then. They ganged up to get Jose sacked by reeling out shitty performances game after game.

There was no such mutiny at United. The players were happy with Moyes & Moyes was happy with them and yet he was 7th until he was sacked in April(34 PL games out of 38).

elampiro:
Who did he buy? Fellaini who was his 5th choice midfielder? Just a make shift for one season

He bought Mata. He inherited a title winning squad and he also had ample time to make changes but he was lapping up the euphoria and novelty in becoming Man Utd manager for almost 3 months.

Moyes is an idiöt. He could have succeeded if he wanted to but the job was just too much for him. The worst mistake was sacking Fergie’s back room staff and bringing the quacks he worked with at Everton(who had achieved nothing with him) to Man Utd.

United went from being champions to 7th the next season. Probably the worst title defence in the history of Premier League. I cannot recall any defending champions that finished 7th the following season apart from Leicester who fluked their way to a title. Moyes is a hopeless manager. Just leave him where he’s at.

4000 United fans were surveyed on The Athletic to see their views concerning Ole.

The poll results are hilarious.

80% agree Ole’s poor tactical approach is why United are currently fücked and yet only 69% want him sacked immediately.

This is another evidence that 90% of United fans are extremely retardėd. We cannot continue to blame the Glazers when our own fans have no standards at all.

Shaking my fücking head.

elampiro:
Yes. This is Moyes we knew at Everton. Everton was battling relegation season after season until Moyes arrived. He kept them on top 6,7 and even finished 4th once. All on low budget.

In United, he never had the opportunity to bring his kind of players. The pressure of post SAF era was too heavy for him.

And it’s the inability to handle that pressure that has caused the pain to many of these wannabe managers.

United is a juggernaut club that was ultra successful for 2 decades. Any manager coming in must be ready to match Fergie’s records because he would always be compared to Fergie and that’s where the problem lies.

It’s easy to manage West Ham or Everton where the expectation is low. It’s a different kettle of fish at United where the club is expected to beat every team they face.

Moyes inherited a title winning squad and finished 7th. Translation:- He couldn’t handle the pressure. He’s found his level at West Ham. Please leave him there and let him thrive in his natural habitat. He will never be a successful manager in a big club.

raumdeuter:
Why are they shouting Glazer out, wetin Glazer do again? Shey na Glazer go coach team?

Glazer buy team, Ferguson left, and recommended Moyes, Glazer followed

Moyes failed, they got Mr Philosophy he failed, They got Mourinho who many said is a guaranteed winner and will bring Man utd back he failed

Once again Ferguson who is the oracle brought and stood by Mr DNA and Glazer followed

Abeg wetin dem want make Glazer do again?

If say Glazer no follow Ferguson recommendations shey una no go complain

3 trophies
2nd place finish
81 points(highest since Fergie)
81 points(good enough to win PL in 6 previous seasons)

Yet, Mourinho is deemed a failure. Mourinho’s failure is some people’s success. Jose’s immediate predecessor/successor didn’t come close to any of these feats. Ole has spent £400m and everyone termed him successful until last month.

Oasis007:
Rio Ferdinand: "I think Ole would leave now with his head held high because because from when he came in to where he got us at the beginning of the season I think it’s been positive."

Rio is the biggest waffler on the planet.

I am grateful he’s seen the light sha. At least he’s calling for a change in baton.

Gary Neville is still mute.

Eddie Howe to Newcastle confirmed.

All the teams in poor form are making moves to change the status quo except Man Utd.

melodyogonna:
Nah, not the playing style. I meant the squad, I don't think we have any playing style. But the players we have now will give coaches better chances of winning trophies than what we had when Ole joined. Also, the recruitment structure has gotten better, with the new roles Fletcher and Murtogh abi wetin be the name is filling.

We have a better squad now because the owners decided to spend money - I can’t credit Ole for bringing in Ronaldo or Sancho or Varane. These are world class talents many people knew before they joined United.

Where’s Ole’s equivalent of Ruben Dias(a relatively unknown player that Pep got and instantly made a massive impact to their team)? Ole hasn’t discovered any hidden gem that turned into a marquee player - after 3 years.

He’s a joke!

melodyogonna:
Well-coached teams are so beautiful to watch.
Many decisions have become instinctive and require no thinking at all from the part of the player to execute. When I watch our games many times I see our players getting confused when they're with the ball, indecisive. Bruno, Mctominay, Wan Bissaka, and Shaw especially sometimes hold the ball too long deliberating on which position to play it to. These things should be instinct by now, before you hold the ball you should already know where to play it, you can even play it there with your eyes closed with full confidence that a teammate should be at that position.

So you know this and yet you equally claimed Ole has improved the squad?

Someone posted a video on twitter(I have been looking for it). It was a clip of Shaw and Maguire trying to play through a press against Atalanta.

You would almost cry watching these two players try to beat a press. It was an eye sore. They couldn’t do it. It was like watching an interclass game in a primary school.

You begin to ask yourself what exactly do these players get taught by the coaching crew. How can two international England players be so useless in beating a press?

melodyogonna:
The reason McFred or anybody isn't playing to their potential is simply the coach. You don't need world-class talents in every position to play well, I'd argue you need more good players than world-class ones in team ratio.

A player needs to be especially dull to still be unable to understand basic positioning, and have improved decision making after 3 years. or wait, maybe it's not a problem with the player's understanding, it's just that the coaches themselves don't know where each should position when their team has the ball, and where they should position when on the defensive in other to make their playing pattern effective.

Tbh if I was Pogba I'd want to leave too, but I'm not, I'm a fan and football is a sentimental game, at the moment Pogba is pissing me off.

The quality isn’t good enough. I agree you don’t need a world class player in every position but at least you need decent players that can accurately pass the ball when pressed, you need decent players who understand positioning(when to pivot and when to go upfront).

Darren Fletcher wasn’t a skillful player but go back and watch the old games. He had a good engine in him, he could carry the ball, he was very good at passing the ball, he could tackle and he understood positioning. These are basic skills that you would expect even from year 1 academy players.

You look at McFred and everyone knows they carry no threat offensively. I don’t think there’s any rival manager that sees McFred as a threat. They don’t go into games telling their players to beware of McFred. It’s a joke. Ole has done nothing to improve any player in his squad.

melodyogonna:
Pogba has simply lost interest, no be about the national team.

We have also lost interest. Pogba is human after all.

He sees his peers in other clubs and how they are surrounded with a superior supporting cast. He’s been playing with McFred for 3 years.

Won’t you be frustrated?

Mrviktor:
Greenwood.. Bruno.. Mactominay.. Shaw.. Rashford.. Improved under ole.

Those players are not performing like they did last season..

Nd d others aren't stepping up.

Mention one new skill that
each of the aforementioned players have added to their repertoire since they have started playing for Ole?